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    Veteran Member Three Rings rollaphillie's Avatar
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    DIY : Rear differential axle seals

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    These things are known to leak on our cars and I haven't found a detailed write up on how to replace them.
    I spent a fair amount of time figuring out how to get this job done properly and figured I'd write up how I did it, its not too difficult just time consuming your first time around.

    You DO NOT need to remove the whole axle in order to replace the seals. When I went to do this I noticed my right passenger side axle was making a mess so I will include how to remove that in the write up.

    After noticing that I had a look at my other axles and the front right was shot too, I replaced it with a DSS axle from FCP
    http://www.fcpgroton.com/product-exe...2004+%28DSS%29
    Quality looks excellent compared to other aftermarket axles I've seen on the market, I haven't driven it yet though

    Tools required:

    • 6mm Allen socket for axle heat shields + Flange bolt
    • M10 socket for axle bolts (12 point, similar to torx bit - same one used to remove front seats)
    • 2062 seal driver to properly position new seal
    • Basic hand tools (sockets, wrenches, pry bar, swivel sockets, pb blaster etc)
    • Seal puller
    • Spring compressors to remove rear springs only for removing axle
    • 17mm Allen socket for large axle bolt at wheel hub only for removing axle
    • Breaker bar + extension to remove axle bolt only for removing axle


    Parts required:
    • 2 new seals
    • Large axle bolt at hub part # 4B0 407 643
    • Axle bolts at diff don't have the part #, got mine from the dealer


    Now onto the fun stuff...
    If you are only replacing the seals skip to Step 3

    Step 1

    First thing you want to do is loosen the 17mm axle bolt. This is only necessary if you are removing the axle, otherwise you can leave it alone.
    Keep in mind you get a lot more room to work around when the axle is removed, but I did the other side just fine sliding one end of of the way.

    To loosen the bolt you'll need the 17mm allen socket and breaker bar with an extension. The wheel must be on the ground with center cap removed
    These bolts are nice and snug.. You'll need some PB Blaster/ penetrating oil to get them loose. The extension bar also made it much easier




    Step 2

    In order to remove the axles, you need to get the rear springs out to get enough room.
    Again, this step is only necessary if you are removing the whole axle.
    This is the easiest way to remove the rear springs and struts for any reason (coilover install, maintenance etc)

    • Jack rear suspension underneath the spring (compress the spring as much as you can)
      Install your spring compressor


    • Loosen rear subframe bolts (I dropped mine as much as possible)



    • Unbolt strut mount and compress the strut

    • Now lower your jack and use a pry bar to remove the spring


      Simple as that! Now get your suspension supported again with the jack


    Step 3
    • Next you need to get under the car and remove the axle heat shield. Theyre held on by three 6mm bolts
      If you're only replacing the seals, This is where you should start.
      Lug bolts must be installed at this point (with wheel removed). This stops the axle from spinning



    Step 4
    • With the heat shield removed, you can get to the six M-10 socket bolts holding the axle to the rear diff.

    • After all the bolts are removed, compress the axle and slide it out of the way.

      NOTE- this is all the room I could get to work with on PASSENGER SIDE without removing the whole axle


    • This much room on Drivers side


    Step 5
    • With the axle out of the way you can now remove the 6mm allen bolt holding the flange to the diff. A swivel socket will help


      Its a bit tricky getting this loose, you need to stop the whole flange from spinning by holding it with something. I put two of the M10 bolts back in and put a wrench in between to hold the flange in place so I could break the bolt loose)


    • With that bolt out, you can now remove the flange from the diff


    Step 6
    • With the flange removed, you're now at the old leaking seal

      NOTE- Remember where the seal is positioned so you can install the new one correctly


    • To get the old seal out, I tried numerous methods. I will explain the method I found most effective (Sorry- no pictures of this step)

      First I tried using the seal puller alone, which was a waste of time. What I ended up doing was hammering a large flathead into the seal to try and bend it out of shape. Make sure to stay away from the edges around the seal (You don't want to damage any areas inside the diff). Hammer into the middle of the seal (refer to the yellow line in the above pic) The seal is actually made of some sort of metal on the inside (not fully plastic). Once you hammer the flathead far enough into the seal, use it to bend the seal as much as possible. Repeat this step a few times if needed until you get the seal deformed and out of place, which than makes using the seal puller much easier.



    Step 7
    • Once you get the old seal out, rub some grease or trans. oil on the new one and use the correct tool to push it into place.
      Its possible you can get it seated properly without the tool but it makes the job easier and you wont have to worry about doing it again.


    • With the new seal installed do the steps in reverse to get the axle and everything back together, and then move onto the next side. After you get one side finished the other takes about half the time.


    Torque specs will be added soon

    For those interested in removing the whole axle..... here you go:

    To remove the axle is not a whole lot more work. On top of the work above, all I did was the following:
    • Remove 17mm axle bolt

    • Remove transverse link (?) bolt (18mm on either side)

    • Remove two other bolts holding the wheel hub to rear subframe, both 18mm




      With these 4 bolts removed, You will have enough room to bend the wheel hub forward and pull the axle out towards yourself


    • Axle removed and off to be rebuilt, much more room to work with under there


    • Bentley instructions for loosening bolt and removing/installing rear axle:



    Last edited by rollaphillie; 02-06-2011 at 05:17 AM.

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    well done sir

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    updated with more info and pictures

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    good writeup, mine had been leaking for quite some time. just got it fixed, wish i saw this before, would have done it myeslf
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    Nice, will refer to this when doing my B5's.
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    Is it possible to remove the rear passenger diff seal without removing the axle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobsen View Post
    Is it possible to remove the rear passenger diff seal without removing the axle?
    I am wondering the same. Also, I kinda think it might be easier to just drop the gears from the car or replace with new gears?
    Also how often is it just a vent issue that causes oil to be pushed out the seals? Mine just started, in fact I wouldn't have noticed if it weren't for the gear noise I noticed and decided to have a loo

    are the any left hand bolts? Always were in the other dif.s I dealt with???

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    great write up! trying this very soon hopefully it turns out well!

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    Okay what gear oil did you use and how much? Also how long do you think it would take to do this for a person doing the seals for their first time. My friend wants to charge me $200 to do this.

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    Great writeup, looks like I may have to do this on both sides after looking under the car and noticing this:
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    I am also wondering about how much oil I may have lost and if this has possibly damaged my differential. 161k on my 03 A4.

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    More info for Step 4 above... or "How I replaced both flange seals without removing either axle"

    The problem: The inner end of the axle cannot be moved out of the way enough to remove the flange from the differential.

    The solution (for left side, right side similar):
    1. Load trunk with heavy stuff (car batteries, concrete blocks, your mother-in-law, etc.) A full fuel tank might be sufficient.

    2. With the car on jack stands and the six bolts removed from the inner axle end, use a floor jack to raise the lower control arm. As the arm rotates up, the axle is pulled away from the differential. This creates enough clearance to move the axle inner end out of the flange. Note this is where the trunk weight comes into play. More weight means more coil spring compression which means more clearance between axle and flange. Raise the jack until the car lifts slightly off the jack stand on that corner.

    3. Move inner end of axle to lowest, most forward point. It will rest on a bolt on lower control arm (bolt for plastic piece).

    4. Insert pry bar into hole in subframe arch. Bar is behind axle, axle is against coil spring. Note small gap at jack stand. (Also note interference between flange and axle visible at top of pic. If the jack was lowered at this time, the axle would hit the flange.)





    5. Pry the axle forward (coil spring flexes).

    6. Hold axle in this position and release the floor jack slowly. As the control arm sinks back down, keep pressure on the bar to maintain clearance between flange and inner end of axle. After the control arm is back down, the inner axle vs. flange should look like this. Flange can now be removed.

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