Can the Viper Smart Start system work on our cars?

[momoney]

I just wanted to know if the viper start smart system can work with our cars? if so how do you like it?
http://www.viper.com/SmartStart

[Sebap3]

It can work but it's costly to install. They need a spare key that stays in the car to disable the immobilizer. Also if you have a manual trans. the clutch safety has to be bypassed which is illegal. The car is a lot easier to steal with this installed too, because the engine immobilizer will be disabled.

[momoney]

It can work but it's costly to install. They need a spare key that stays in the car to disable the immobilizer. Also if you have a manual trans. the clutch safety has to be bypassed which is illegal. The car is a lot easier to steal with this installed too, because the engine immobilizer will be disabled.

Is that just with this setup or all remote start setups?

[Drkside]

Is that just with this setup or all remote start setups?

to my knowledge all remote starts need the spare key to disable the immobilizer for it to work.

[Hazziar]

I installed the Viper 5902 in S4 and its one of the most intensive wiring jobs I've done with any RS/Alarm combo. So first, yes it will work and find an authorized DEI [maker of Viper] installer to do the job so you don't void your cars warranty if you have one, also they more than likely will make you sign a weaver of liability since you have a manual trans. Don't do something stupid and have Best Buy install it either...

You will need to have a spare transponder key [not a flip key] made up for the immobilizer bypass module. Important; this in NO way will disable your immobilizer permanently, the bypass activates under remote starting ONLY. So your car is in no way able to be driven off when remote started without a key in the ignition or hot wired. Only way your car could be compromised is if someone who knew you broke in, spent time ripping your dash apart trying to find the immobilizer bypass module, then spent even more time attempting to split the box, get the key then start your car and drive off. Very unlikely especially since most authorized installers hide the IBM in the most obscure spots. Extremely unlikely since Vipers Responder HD will page you in real-time of any disturbance in the 7 monitored zones of your car, were talking Pentagon security here.

On the clutch bypass they will install a micro relay to the pedal switch; it will only bypass the clutch under remote starting. Any regular manual starting will require you to push in the clutch.

Personally I've never owned a car I didn't install a remote start in so I can tell you on a cold winters morning having a car thats being all warmed up [interior & engine], windows defrosted, and security monitored from just a push of a button from inside my house is priceless.

[mr2guysingh]

His car is automatic, so no need for the clutch bypass.

[Drkside]

I installed the Viper 5902 in S4 and its one of the most intensive wiring jobs I've done with any RS/Alarm combo. So first, yes it will work and find an authorized DEI [maker of Viper] installer to do the job so you don't void your cars warranty if you have one, also they more than likely will make you sign a weaver of liability since you have a manual trans. Don't do something stupid and have Best Buy install it either...

You will need to have a spare transponder key [not a flip key] made up for the immobilizer bypass module. Important; this in NO way will disable your immobilizer permanently, the bypass activates under remote starting ONLY. So your car is in no way able to be driven off when remote started without a key in the ignition or hot wired. Only way your car could be compromised is if someone who knew you broke in, spent time ripping your dash apart trying to find the immobilizer bypass module, then spent even more time attempting to split the box, get the key then start your car and drive off. Very unlikely especially since most authorized installers hide the IBM in the most obscure spots. Extremely unlikely since Vipers Responder HD will page you in real-time of any disturbance in the 7 monitored zones of your car, were talking Pentagon security here.

On the clutch bypass they will install a micro relay to the pedal switch; it will only bypass the clutch under remote starting. Any regular manual starting will require you to push in the clutch.

Personally I've never owned a car I didn't install a remote start in so I can tell you on a cold winters morning having a car thats being all warmed up [interior & engine], windows defrosted, and security monitored from just a push of a button from inside my house is priceless.

i did not know all this, not to thread jack but, what happens if you leave the car in 1st in a manual car? won't it lurch forward when you remote start it?

[road race s4]

i did not know all this, not to thread jack but, what happens if you leave the car in 1st in a manual car? won't it lurch forward when you remote start it?

It depends on the alarm system you have. Some of the cheap ones out there will let you start the car while in gear while other ones have fail safe features that won't let it start while in gear. I don't have experience with the viper alarm but I did have a Compustar on my galant vr4 (5sp manual).
To activate the remote start you would have to follow a sequence of events otherwise it would work. So if you were driving and pulled up into your driveway you would stop, open the driver's side door, pull up the ebrake, take out the key of the ignition (car will still be running), get out and close the door and the car will shut off and lock itself. If you didn't open the door or pull up the ebrake before the removing the ignition key the system would not activate.

[Hazziar]

i did not know all this, not to thread jack but, what happens if you leave the car in 1st in a manual car? won't it lurch forward when you remote start it?

Like 'road race s4' said some have a fail safe to cease operation if the module detects the car is in gear. No new remote start that I know of will even continue to crank a car in gear unless its some cheap Chinese system, the most that will happen is the car will do a little "buck" then the RS shuts downs. Also on a manual install; splice the "neutral safety switch" wire from the RS to the ground wire on the ebrake switch. That way the RS will only work if the ebrake is applied and in the event its cranked in gear the car should stay in place for the most part [assuming your ebrake works, lol]

[billyp7718]

I am about to get the 5902v and Smartstart done on my B7 S4. I work for the manufacturer so feel free to PM me if you want more info.

[panamagixxer]

I had one installed on my 2010 S5 yesterday, it works well for starting the car. It comes with 2 remote keys as well. There is a learning curve, the first time I started it, I used the door sensor to unlock/open the door and started the alarm. Early yet, but from what I have figured out, if you are not using the system to start the car (iPhone for me), they the cars normal security/remotes work fine. When I start the car via my phone, I need to open the door with their remote.

Not perfect, but if that is the only issue, I am good with it.

Starting the car, opening the truck, doors, etc. work fine. The iPhone app takes about 5 - 7 seconds when you open it to each time to log into their system and each time you do a command, there is a slight (few second delay) because it is basically txt'ing your car with the command.

I had one put on my wife's new MDX last week and started her car while in China (we are in Utah), pretty cool.

[mad70sx]

Why would you want a remote starter,anyway? No heated seats? Remote starters are not good for your engine. Audi owners manual says to drive the car immediately,keeping the engine under 4000 rpm until the temp comes up. Remote starters just waste gas and put un-necessary wear andd tear on the engine.

[A42007]

The fact that you can track the car where ever it may be is appealing to me, that and the fact I live in AZ and it's hot as balls. By the time I get home from work it's just getting nice in the cabin of the car.

[panamagixxer]

Why would you want a remote starter,anyway? No heated seats? Remote starters are not good for your engine. Audi owners manual says to drive the car immediately,keeping the engine under 4000 rpm until the temp comes up. Remote starters just waste gas and put un-necessary wear andd tear on the engine.

Basically because I am lazy and buy what I want. I hear you on the heated seats, but the system is set to run 12 minutes (before shutting off) and the heater will warm the car up in that amount of time and in UTAH its hot as balls (too) so the AC will help in the summer. Owners manual says .... keeping the engine under 4000 rpm until temp comes up. Seriously, never heard of this, probably because I did not read the manual. Who actually putts around under 4000 rpm for 3 - 5 minutes? In that case, I have already killed the long-term value of my car because I drive like an idiot as soon as I can.

I guess, to answer your questions, I wanted a remote start. Like A42007 says, there are a lot of other tracking alerts as well as txt'd messages when the alarm goes off which is pretty cool.

[WinterRunner]

Basically because I am lazy and buy what I want. I hear you on the heated seats, but the system is set to run 12 minutes (before shutting off) and the heater will warm the car up in that amount of time and in UTAH its hot as balls (too) so the AC will help in the summer. Owners manual says .... keeping the engine under 4000 rpm until temp comes up. Seriously, never heard of this, probably because I did not read the manual. Who actually putts around under 4000 rpm for 3 - 5 minutes? In that case, I have already killed the long-term value of my car because I drive like an idiot as soon as I can.

I guess, to answer your questions, I wanted a remote start. Like A42007 says, there are a lot of other tracking alerts as well as txt'd messages when the alarm goes off which is pretty cool.

It's a pretty standard rule of thumb to let your oil temps heat up before romping on your car. It's not just an Audi thing....

[panamagixxer]

It's a pretty standard rule of thumb to let your oil temps heat up before romping on your car. It's not just an Audi thing....

Cool, feel much better now :-)

My motorcycles, other cars say the same thing, just glad its not some weird Audi thing :-) Hell, my pool cover says it should be fully retracked before I jump in, never wait for that either.