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    BBS CH: real vs replica

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    i searched but couldn't find the best ways to tell the real vs replica. There was a thread before about the coding of them. any input would help

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    exactly what i was looking for. so the bbs ch 012 when they say aftermarket, they don't mean replicas right?

    The Definitive BBS CH/CO/RE Reference Thread
    I know these wheels are more popular in the VW scene these days, but I thought I would repost this over here just in case. I've been collecting info on BBS CH-type wheels for a long time, and here's a somewhat organized collection of everything I've found.
    This document could definitely use more information on any of these wheels if youve got it. Conspicuously absent is any info on CK's, CH-R's, or LM-R's. Please add more info, and I'll add it to the original post. :)

    All wheels listen here are 5x112.

    BBS CH wheels are pressure cast aluminum alloy wheels. You can buy them from BBS in the aftermarket, but VAG also included them as OEM parts on several different models.

    Aftermarket CH types
    Aftermarket CH's have "motorsport" stamped into the metal around the center and other descriptors on the lip. They only come in Diamond Silver (also known as Bright Silver) or Black with Stainless Lip. All real non-OEM BBS wheels require BBS PFS hubcentric rings and conical lugs.
    CH003: 17x8.5 et35
    CH023: 17x7.5 et42
    CH012: 18x8.5 et35, with alignment holes
    CH025: 18x8 et50, without holes
    CH026: 19x8 et 50
    CH009: 19x8.5 et 35

    Notes in for looking for replica (fake) wheels:
    CH's never came from the factory in black with red lips [ known as time attack style], only black with polished lips, as the 'Black Edition'.
    A CH wheel in 18x8, et35, 5x112 does not exist - this combination of width and offset is a sure sign of a rep.
    Reps usually have a 'smaller' centercap diameter; the correct size is 70mm face, 64mm back.
    A '+' at the end of the model number often indicates 5x110 bolt pattern.


    OEM CH types
    Despite popular belief, the OEM wheels were not CO's, but pressure cast CH's. None have writing anywhere on the face (no "motorsports", no BBS/ET43/Germany on the lip). They use standard Audi sized centercaps and ball seat lugs, and have a centerbore of 57.1. They mount up with completely OEM hardware.

    CH028: OEM on 2006 B7 S4, 18x8 ET43, PN: 8E0 601 025 [AB,AN] 1H7
    CH024: OEM on A3 3.2 S-Line, 18x7.5 ET54, PN: 8P0 601 025 R 1H7. Writing on back "BBS CH 024, 03 45 056, ET54, 8PO 601, 025R".
    CH029: OEM on MKV ED30, 18x7.5 ET51, known as "VW PESCARAS". PN 1K0 601 025 AT QQ9. These wheels are "Titan Grey" [QQ9], which is slightly darker than the standard silver finish, [1H7].
    CH???: OEM VW Individual (Poland), 18x7.5 ET51, known as "Rockingham". PN 1K0 071 498 AT QQ9. Apparently has alignment holes, unlike other OEM wheels (???). Only reference I've seen.
    Also, I've seen a PN 1K0 601 025 CC as listed for a CH-like wheel. I've also heard rumors of an ET56 variant. Not confirmed though.

    CO Type
    The CO is the cheaper, gravity cast sibling of the CH. As of this writing, I think BBS has stopped making these. They came in Diamond Silver only. They have no "Motorsport" writing on face or writing around lip. They use ball seat lugs and do not require centering rings.
    VZ033: (yes, part number starts with VZ) 18x8 ET44.

    RE Types
    RE's are the forged version of the CH's. They have a flatter face, and a steeply dished center. They use cone seat lugs and the BBS PFS centering rings. The wheel information is around the hub between the bolt holes, with no writing on the face. On the lip between spokes the wheels read [Jl][ ][BBS][ ][FORGED]. They come in Diamond Black and Diamond Silver finishes.
    RE013: 18x8, ET50
    RE016: 18x8, ET43
    RE775: 18x8, ET35
    More info on fitment by model number can be found here.

    Accessories
    BBS Center Caps can be bought directly from BBS USA, or from vendors such as Black Forest Industries or PureMS

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