Audi Military Sales Europe Questions

[Rob123]

Does anyone know anything about Audi's military sales program for soldiers stationed in Germany? Like if the vehicles are up to American specs so they can be shipped back to the states and how much they cost, i.e. are they cheaper then buying in the states? (wifey wants an 09 A4 now lol) Thanks in advance for your replies.

[Khaluakid]

I did some homework a while back and I got this:

The Audi Military Sales Program was specifically designed to provide a tier one experience to our military customers, from dealership to delivery. The program provides 100% price protection, 100% satisfaction at delivery or your money refunded, and special military pricing that can save buyers thousands of dollars. It is operated by the Overseas Military Sales Corporation. Please note: To become eligible for the Audi Military Program you must be a member of the U.S. military serving overseas, or a Department of Defense ID card holder stationed outside the continental USA at the time you place your order.
Three separate programs are in place:
Serving in Europe, Italy, or the United Kingdom
Contact: [email protected]
The Audi Military program is offered through Auto Exchange. With sales locations throughout Europe, you can benefit from our two distinctive programs. Select from Inventory of over 300 tax-free* vehicles at any one time for immediate European delivery, or custom build your own vehicle through the Special Order Program, which can be delivered overseas or to any authorized Stateside dealer.
Serving in the Middle East or Far East
Contact: [email protected]
Military AutoSource operates the Middle East and Far East Audi Military Sales Program. Their expertly trained consultants will contact you immediately to guide you through the entire buying experience.

From what I heard its not a huge discount, I think 500 off but I could be wrong.

[Rob123]

Ahh only 500 off?? Thats brutal, you get the same discount if you buy it in the states :( oh well hey thanks for the info

[coolwater]

I hear with BMW, you get a huge discount in Germany for the military. Like at manufacturing cost. So a 750 would be in the 30-40k range.
This is coming from a co-worker that has family stationed in Germany.

-cW

[Smeghead]

More than just $500, should be tax free too.

[Rob123]

Thats true, would avoid what is it 19% tax in Germany? And yes with BMW they do offer a really nice discount over there, but if your not going to get something like a 335xi (need fun in the snow) then meh whats ze point lol

[Khaluakid]

Actually Pentagon Car sales where telling me 7K off selected BMW I think they said the same for a M3.

[Rob123]

Actually Pentagon Car sales where telling me 7K off selected BMW I think they said the same for a M3.

Hmm now what does "selected" mean to them? I.e. base line models of selected BMW 3,4,5 series..... sure you can have 7k off this 5series sedan...with cloth interior,no ac,no sunroof (sauna),and your own personal workout station (manual windows) lol

[Cherub]

www.pentagoncarsales.com if you'd like a general overview of the program. If you are interested in a BMW, contact Mathias Hemmer in Germany [email protected] and tell him Clyde sent you. Example of Military discounts thru PCS http://www.pentagoncarsales.com/bmw/...lass=M&body=M3 Coupe. BMWNA http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...EbwZ1Dq5ce3Q==. Notice the almost $8k savings for the M3. Certain BMWs cost way less than others. Regardless, you'll still save around $4-8K, depending on the purchased model. I'm trying to locate my Audi connect in Germany. Give me a few.

[Rob123]

www.pentagoncarsales.com if you'd like a general overview of the program. If you are interested in a BMW, contact Mathias Hemmer in Germany [email protected] and tell him Clyde sent you. Example of Military discounts thru PCS http://www.pentagoncarsales.com/bmw/...lass=M&body=M3 Coupe. BMWNA http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...EbwZ1Dq5ce3Q==. Notice the almost $8k savings for the M3. Certain BMWs cost way less than others. Regardless, you'll still save around $4-8K, depending on the purchased model. I'm trying to locate my Audi connect in Germany. Give me a few.

Man that's awesome thank you, do you know if the vehicles sold that way are at US specs, i.e. can I buy it there and have no issue taking it back to the states with me when I PCS again?

[Cherub]

Man that's awesome thank you, do you know if the vehicles sold that way are at US specs, i.e. can I buy it there and have no issue taking it back to the states with me when I PCS again?

Any of those vehicles you purchase over there will be US spec. Unless you specify you want a Euro spec to save $2-3k. You're welcome man.

[Rob123]

Any of those vehicles you purchase over there will be US spec. Unless you specify you want a Euro spec to save $2-3k. You're welcome man.

Freaking awesome dude, if you manage to find an Audi contact thatd be great

[Rob123]

Any of those vehicles you purchase over there will be US spec. Unless you specify you want a Euro spec to save $2-3k. You're welcome man.

Freaking awesome dude, if you manage to find an Audi contact that'd be great

[Cherub]

Rob123, My old Audi connect in Germany is no longer there. but, contact the Audi office in Keiserslautern, GE @ 011-49-631 35 1870 or pass me more info on what your wife expect to have on the Audi and I'll PM with what I found.

[Rob123]

Rob123, My old Audi connect in Germany is no longer there. but, contact the Audi office in Keiserslautern, GE @ 011-49-631 35 1870 or pass me more info on what your wife expect to have on the Audi and I'll PM with what I found.

Im in Afghanistan till Nov 1 otherwise Id call myself, but we want a 2009 Black exterior with Black Lthr Interior A4 2.0T Quattro 6MT (S-Line or not doesn't matter) for 30K u.s.d or less. Hey man really, thanks for the help.

[Cherub]

Im in Afghanistan till Nov 1 otherwise Id call myself, but we want a 2009 Black exterior with Black Lthr Interior A4 2.0T Quattro 6MT (S-Line or not doesn't matter) for 30K u.s.d or less. Hey man really, thanks for the help.

Ok, now I have more of an idea of what you're looking for. If you can give till tomorrow, I'll try to locate a connect in GE for you. Here's one to think about after a quick build of a 2010 A4 http://www.autoexchangeonline.com/showroom/Style.aspx. What's your stateside zip code

[Cherub]

And you can always talk them down to damn near $28k for the 2010. Remember, they're trying to get rid of them and you pcs from afghanistan in November is perfect timing.

[Cherub]

Im in Afghanistan till Nov 1 otherwise Id call myself, but we want a 2009 Black exterior with Black Lthr Interior A4 2.0T Quattro 6MT (S-Line or not doesn't matter) for 30K u.s.d or less. Hey man really, thanks for the help.

Here's a 2011 6MT A4 2.0T

[Rob123]

Lol is it supposed to be a picture or a link? haha

[Cherub]

Lol is it supposed to be a picture or a link? haha

My bad about that man. It's a link http://www.autoexchangeonline.com/showroom/Style.aspx

[Rob123]

Haha no worries, Ill check it out now

[Rob123]

** NOTE: Stateside MSRP provided for comparison purposes. Supplemental costs may apply for overseas delivery to Europe. Please complete all steps to receive your personalized Auto Exchange price quote!

So is this purchasing a car and having it sent over there? MSRP on the build was $34,625.00 :( thats the same price from Audiusa.com, or is that the final price with no dealer markups or anything?

[Cherub]

** NOTE: Stateside MSRP provided for comparison purposes. Supplemental costs may apply for overseas delivery to Europe. Please complete all steps to receive your personalized Auto Exchange price quote!

So is this purchasing a car and having it sent over there? MSRP on the build was $34,625.00 :( thats the same price from Audiusa.com, or is that the final price with no dealer markups or anything?

That one may be a no dealer hook up. but, here's one you might find interesting

http://autos.yahoo.com/used-cars/aud...i&distance=300

[Cherub]

Another 1

http://autos.yahoo.com/used-cars/aud...i&distance=any

[Rob123]

Cool Im checking both out now

[Rob123]

Brutal should I assume that a 6MT is hard to find?

[Cherub]

Brutal should I assume that a 6MT is hard to find?

It's very hard to find 6MT that is Cert PO, but don't give up just yet. You have plenty of time to search and find one. BTW, I just e-mailed a friend of mine in GE asking him to look up for my Audi guy, so give me till tomorrow and I'll update you.

[Rob123]

:'( haha I wont give up yet lol, we really want this car and your right there is plenty of time left to go. Thanks for emailing your buddy, I really appreciate all this help man.

[Cherub]

:'( haha I wont give up yet lol, we really want this car and your right there is plenty of time left to go. Thanks for emailing your buddy, I really appreciate all this help man.

No problem, you're welcome. i waited 7 months while in Iraq waiting to get my A4

[Khaluakid]

Also since your in the military check with USAA, they also negotiate with selected dealers and they also can get 5K of selected makes and model. I'm doing my homework right now, I'm in Iraq and counting down till I go home and get an S4

[Rob123]

Also since your in the military check with USAA, they also negotiate with selected dealers and they also can get 5K of selected makes and model. I'm doing my homework right now, I'm in Iraq and counting down till I go home and get an S4

Haha Cherub and Khaluakid, Im glad to know Im not the only one whos had to wait through a deployment for an Audi. Kahlua, Ill try checking with USAA thanks for the heads up on them (I use em for just about everything so they might as well find me my car too lol)

[hoppy6698]

I bought my 2004 BMW 325i in Germany when I was stationed there. Audi does not give hardly any incentives to purchase overseas, and like most said, you can get that $500 discount just haggling. BMW usually gives a savings of $6k-10k off of US pricing, and MB was about half that.

The "tax-free" is a misnomer as well. You may have to pay sales tax when registering the vehicle in the US, depending on state and if you trade a car in. If you trade in, you should have paid tax on that sale, and that is usually taken into account when registering. All of this is why you have to buy the car 6 mos before leaving Germany and have at least 1k miles on the car (imported as "used" vs. "new").

If you are looking for an incredible deal - go BMW overseas, then sell in CONUS. If you are really looking for an Audi, call a dealer that is used to working with US service members and deal directly. I bought my BMW through a dealer in Wurzburg as they were used to operating with us all the time, told me exactly what I needed to get, from what offices, even the proper forms, etc.

All that said, I bought my B8 for about 5k under MSRP in the US and only haggled over the internet (email). Make sure you don't pay close to MSRP, there are plenty of incentives programs in the US that can save lots of $$ under MSRP.

[Cherub]

I bought my 2004 BMW 325i in Germany when I was stationed there. Audi does not give hardly any incentives to purchase overseas, and like most said, you can get that $500 discount just haggling. BMW usually gives a savings of $6k-10k off of US pricing, and MB was about half that.

The "tax-free" is a misnomer as well. You may have to pay sales tax when registering the vehicle in the US, depending on state and if you trade a car in. If you trade in, you should have paid tax on that sale, and that is usually taken into account when registering. All of this is why you have to buy the car 6 mos before leaving Germany and have at least 1k miles on the car (imported as "used" vs. "new").

If you are looking for an incredible deal - go BMW overseas, then sell in CONUS. If you are really looking for an Audi, call a dealer that is used to working with US service members and deal directly. I bought my BMW through a dealer in Wurzburg as they were used to operating with us all the time, told me exactly what I needed to get, from what offices, even the proper forms, etc.

All that said, I bought my B8 for about 5k under MSRP in the US and only haggled over the internet (email). Make sure you don't pay close to MSRP, there are plenty of incentives programs in the US that can save lots of $$ under MSRP.

I'll weigh in a little. After purchasing 2 BMW from PCS and shipping only 1 back to the US, I paid no tax upon the vehicle entering the country and it only had 892 miles on the odometer. The thing about having the car for six months and at least 1k miles on the odometer is somewhat complicating. Certain states won't charge you sales tax on the vehicle once you've had the vehicle registered in Europe IE (USAREUR) with plates. Wish I had a pic of the registration to show you, sorry I don't. If you get a car from Germany, all you do is have it registered and parked till you finish in Afghanistan. By the time you leave Afghanistan, you might have the car at home rolling around.

BTW, I'm still waiting for a reply from my friend about my Audi connect in Germany.

[Rob123]

Sounds like BMW is way more willing to give service members mark offs, AHH if only that 335xi was way cheaper than it is, RWD just doesnt cut it in the snow, and no way do I plan on paying anyone MSRP haha like you both said theres too many incentives programs out there. So to clear up on the registration, Ill be moving to Germany in Feb, so if I buy a car in the US for the registration over there through USAREUR I shouldnt have to pay any kind of "import" taxes to bring it with right? And if Im stationed in Germany and buy in country but register through USAREUR I should avoid the 19% tax the Germans pay for everything as I understand it? And Hoppy so did you not have a POV when you first got to Germany until you bought the BMW? Reason I ask is was it tough not having one when you first got there?

[CzechInside]

Went through Diplomatic Auto Sales (would only deliver State side, and had to ship the vehicle back overseas although work paid for that) and pricing was about $300 under invoice.

[Rob123]

Yeah I checked out Diplomatic and Pentagon Auto Sales, both offer a slim discount and the Army will pay for me to ship overseas so for me at least thats not an issue :) Im finding a few deals here and there but none so far that really stand out as anything really great :(

[Rob123]

The average price I seem to find for an 09 A4 premium pkg seems to be like 29-30K sound about right?

[Rob123]

Ok, now I have more of an idea of what you're looking for. If you can give till tomorrow, I'll try to locate a connect in GE for you. Here's one to think about after a quick build of a 2010 A4 http://www.autoexchangeonline.com/showroom/Style.aspx. What's your stateside zip code

Oh sorry somehow I missed this post, my zip is 28314 (Ft Bragg)

[hoppy6698]

Quick answer - I shipped one car thru Army (Free) and one personally (about $1200 USD all concluded). Registration in USAREUR is like any other state in the US, just a transfer of tags and I don't recall the price being anything of issue, just getting new plates issued/mounted, etc.

If you own a car, either sell it before leaving US or take it with you (its free). I sold my Ford Escort ZX2 (paid off) before leaving Germany and traded the other vehicle in on my BMW purchase. Just like the US, they will use Kelly Blue Book values for your trade in, so no issue there. The only cars I know of that sell well to locals are classic US muscle cars that are well kept - very hard to get in Europe and they would have to pay import fees.

If the Mrs. really wants an Audi A4 09, you should be able to find some top notch deals, but don't be afraid to travel to get the best deal (ie. search the internet, email dealers, etc). If you get one with nav, it should (SHOULD) be EU compatible, you will have to buy a DVD nav disc from a EU dealer when you arrive, however. If you save enough $$ on the purchase, I would HIGHLY recommend getting some tuning upgrades before you go - Audi of Europe does NOT have the same warranty as Audi of America (ex. Germany only has a 2 yr warranty on BMWs and NO free maintenance vs. the US 4 yr warranty and free maintenance for 4 yrs).

Buy an 09, recommend manual over an auto (most vehicles are manuals in Germany), get ECU (eliminate governor), suspension, & RSB (tamp down handling at high speeds) put on at a minimum (about $2000 ish). If you can afford it, FMIC as well, the Audi will thank you for it when cruising the autobahn at 120+mph. Anything else, even those above, can be done in Germany, but you will pay in Euros (not USD) and pay VAT (taxes, but can get this money back, or not pay it at all, with appropriate forms from the US offices).

Send a PM if you have more pointed questions, I have some friends in Weisbaden currently who can check on things.

[Rob123]

For the autobahn is it worth it to get the sports package, pay the extra for the sline, or stick with aftermarket parts?