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    Established Member Two Rings svo142010's Avatar
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    Anyone Trust Pep Boys to Change Brake Pads?

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    The dealership made me schedule an appointment a week ahead and when i showed up at 8 am, they said they wouldn't start on my car till 3pm. Appointment Fail.
    I called my local auto part stores, no one has a retractor tool and brake bleeder. Therefore, i can't do the change myself.
    Pep Boys quoted 199.99 for pads, labor, flip rotor, and check/bleed.
    They said use ceramic brakes that generate less dust, less heat, and so that means no noise.
    They also have a $30 dollar rebate on brakes right now.

    Has anyone here changed pads and bleed the system at Pep boys?
    Should i trust them to know that our cars use DOT 4?

    If this has been discussed, please post a link for me.
    Let me know what you guys think.
    Thank you.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings ocod's Avatar
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    ^ looks very easy to do your self. FWIW rotors are not turned they are replaced.
    Check w/Matt at Europarts or ECS. rotors are ~120 bucks/pads ~35 bucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by tbosch View Post
    I heard there was a lack of a decent write-up for front brakes and rotors so this is my attempt. Try not to be too judgmental, this is the first time I’ve ever wrote something up.
    Tools needed:
    Socket wrench
    7mm hex socket
    C-Clamp
    13/16th wrench (possibly 21mm wrench)
    Flat head screw driver, medium large
    Wood or rubber mallet
    Something to pry with
    Anti seize (optional)

    Step 1:
    Take center cap off, loosen lug nuts.

    Step 2:
    Jack up front end and take lug nuts completely out. Remove wheel.

    Step 3:
    Take caliper spring off and disconnect the brake pad sensor. Should now look like this:

    The sensor is on the caliper. You have to disconnect it from the car, then lift the tab underneath and rotate it 90 degrees to get it to come out of the bracket. Sorry but I didn’t get a picture of this.

    Step 4:
    Take caliper bolts out. You have to remove some rubber caps to expose them. They are 7mm and should come out pretty easy. Make sure you are turning in the right direction; I have heard these will strip easy. I took them all the way out so that I could never anti-seize on them.


    Step 5:
    Take the caliper off. Chances are there will be rust and build-up making it seem like it is stuck on there. You can use the bracket to pry against.

    Step 6:
    Get the rotor loose. You can do this after taking the caliper bracket off, I it before. You have wack it pretty good with a wood or rubber mallet. I also used the bracket to pry against.

    Step 7:
    Take caliper bracket off. These bolts are hard to miss, they’re behind the rotor and pretty big. I think they’re actually supposed to be 21mm (since it is a German car everything so far has been metric). I used a 13/16th wrench and it fit beautifully. It’s actually smaller than a 21mm, so it might be a tighter fit. Once again, make sure you’re turning the right direction; you actually need quite a bit of force to get these off. Once they’re out the bracket falls right off.

    Step 8:
    Take the rotor off. If you didn’t get it loose before you’ll have to do so now. You could probably pry against the caliper bracket mounting bolt hole if you need more leverage.
    After you get the old rotor off you can put the new one on and start reassembling. Read all directions with the parts you bought, some require you to clean before installation, some want you to keep the protective coating on there.

    Step 9:
    Press the caliper cylinder back. You need to do this in order fit it over the new rotor. If you like spending money you can buy a special tool for this, if not you can use a c-clamp which you can get at harbor freight for $4. If your brake fluid has recently been topped off you may want to make that it doesn’t overflow when you do this as it will push fluid back. You may also want to pop the cap to your brake fluid reservoir to relieve some pressure build up.


    Step 10:
    Put caliper bracket back on. Remember, you should already have your new rotor in place. I put anti seize on all the bolts I put back, I would recommend this for the next time you have to do the job, you’ll fight with less rust. I forget the torque spec on these bolts, but it’s pretty high so make sure you crank down on them. Careful not to let the wrench slip off the bolt, getting a good angle can be difficult.

    Step 11:
    Put pads in caliper. Make sure they’re seated right. The outside one should have a way of sticking to the caliper. Mine had a 3M sticky pad.

    Step 12:
    Put the caliper back on. It should fit over the rotor without too much trouble if you pushed cylinder all the way back. You can put the 7mm bolts back in now, remember not to over tighten as they will strip.

    Step 13:
    Put the caliper spring back on. PITA.

    Step 14:
    Put wheel back on.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings seph's Avatar
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    You don't need to bleed the system every time you change pads. Also if you are doing only street driving i would go with something like the Hawk HPS instead of ceramic. They take longer to warm up and are noisier. More of a track pad. I wouldn't pay anyone to change the brakes its very easy.
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    no. i don't. but then again i dont let anyone work on my car unless i know them personally. i would do it myself. i did the fronts and rears myself without the tool. just kind of made one myself. and these days you are better off getting new rotors than turning old ones.
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    Its not even a matter of turning them... you can't... vag rotors are made to not be turned... so you cannot under any circumstances turn them. They're made too thin... and if someone put el cheapo autozone ones on at some point they're even thinner.
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    when the service manager of pepboys told me they couldn't use 0w40 to change my oil I asked why not when you carry it in the store. He told me sir, I know what we carry and we do not carry 0w40. I told him to give me my keys back I'll change my own oil. I turned around and walked 5 ft from the counter and grabbed a case of 0w40 from the pallette of cases (all of which were 0w40) and turned around infront of all his customers and asked him what I had in my hand. He looks at me and says "Oh, you meant full synthetic?" I made sure to tell him infront of all his customers that if the service manager does not know what they are talking about then no one in their shop should be touching my car. If they can't change oil properly, then I wouldn't want them touching my brakes either. Brakes are fairly easy. Using the forums and basic tools you should be able to do the job yourself or take it to a reputable shop rather than paying through the nose for the dealer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyShoreA4 View Post
    when the service manager of pepboys told me they couldn't use 0w40 to change my oil I asked why not when you carry it in the store. He told me sir, I know what we carry and we do not carry 0w40. I told him to give me my keys back I'll change my own oil. I turned around and walked 5 ft from the counter and grabbed a case of 0w40 from the pallette of cases (all of which were 0w40) and turned around infront of all his customers and asked him what I had in my hand. He looks at me and says "Oh, you meant full synthetic?" I made sure to tell him infront of all his customers that if the service manager does not know what they are talking about then no one in their shop should be touching my car. If they can't change oil properly, then I wouldn't want them touching my brakes either. Brakes are fairly easy. Using the forums and basic tools you should be able to do the job yourself or take it to a reputable shop rather than paying through the nose for the dealer.
    Youre a dick for taking your own easy shit in to begin with.
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    Very easy to do.. just keep note that the inner pads are stamped with directional arrow.

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    Buy ur own parts:

    Use Hawk HPS or Carbotech Bobcat pads
    Bring in ur own brake fluid
    Bring in the rotors or ur choice
    Get charged only the labor for wrenching on ur car - watch them like a hawk.

    I do my own brakes, oil, light engine, and suspension work. Harbor Freight brake piston retractor tool for 20 bucks on sale sat in my tool stack for a year b4 I used it. Stock up on tools gradually.
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    Established Member Two Rings svo142010's Avatar
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    Thank you very much, I forgot to mention that i need to change my rear brakes.
    It seems very easy according to what everyone is saying.
    Ill give it a shot.

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    Pro-stop ceramics are shit. I wouldn't put nothing other than Hawk Pads on my car. Get some pads online and DIY its very easy. I work part-time at Pep boys right now as a summer job. I can tell you that you will not be happy with those pro-stop pads..

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    Established Member Two Rings svo142010's Avatar
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    Thank you for telling me that.
    Im going with Hawks!
    Besides ECSTuning, do you guys know what other sites i can get them cheaper?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings JerseyShoreA4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmally View Post
    Youre a dick for taking your own easy shit in to begin with.
    Dick? It was 30 degrees out w a few inches of snow on the ground. I didn't have a garage so I ended up doing it myself in the street because I was way overdo. A few weeks later ended up doing the clutch and flywheel in my friends driveway. Don't think I puss out on working on my own car.
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    i would do them urself man and the oil, all the maintenance jobs on my car i do myself for sure. Accually i do everything except the electrical its all fairly easy like they said just remember u need a special tool to do the back brakes its a tool that turns and pushes at the same time. I didnt have one recently so i made one out of a old rusty pipe and a grinder but that was cuz all the auto parts stores were closed i would definitely recommend getting the real tool

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    You can PM mjmautohaus for good deals on hawk pads. Look at their thread in the Group Buy section
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    Established Member Two Rings svo142010's Avatar
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    Thanks! I just ordered a set of Rear Hawk HPS!
    I guess i cant trust anyone with my car then!

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    do it yourself very easy all you need is basic tools, a clamp and a caliper retractor( i think that is what it's called,to do the rear, you can rent them from any autozone/pepboys/etc..)
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