V6 Mustang vs C6 S6

[audia4austin]

This is a 22k car... Running head to head with a 55k car... In track times.


"We mentioned surprises, and this was the big one. Not so much because of the straight-ahead performance—305 horsepower in a 3520-pound car, the lightest in the group, produced about what we expected: 0-to-60 in 5.4 seconds, the quarter-mile in 14 flat at 104 mph.

The surprise was what this Mustang could do on mountain roads. Where the GT was nimble, the V-6 was eager, with a lighter touch and better balance. Our test car was a Premium version, equipped with 19-inch alloy wheels and those summer Pirellis, which helped it put up the best skidpad performance of the foursome: 0.95 g. We’re not entirely sure that you’ll be able to order this wheel-and-tire combo with either the Premium or American Mustang Club packages. But we’re sure that this car was the dancing champ on the high roads of the Los Padres National Forest, one of the most involving production Mustangs in our experience." Caranddriver


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ang_v-6_page_3

[audia4austin]

I just never thought there would be a day when these numbers were even close... Shocked.

[FrankA6]

Who cares about track times......the S6 isn't a light nimble racecar, its a big heavy luxury car with a big motor + which one would you rather have? And do you see the way that Mustang looks? ROFL what an embarrassing piece of shit...

[G Men 08]

Just goes to show that the performance of audi isn't all that its cracked up to be unless ur in snow or on a dirt road hill climb

[audia4austin]

Makes me real sad....

[FrankA6]

Audi has built some of the most dominant racecars of all time (something that ford wont ever be able to match) ....why would you compare a lighter car that's made out of recycled leggos to a 4300lb+ car that has incredible build quality inside and out....its not all about speed, the S6 is about smooth drivable power.

Oh and BTW "The 2010 S6 sprints from 0 to 60 mph in 5.1 seconds; its top speed is electronically governed at 155 mph. A six-speed Tiptronic automatic and Quattro all-wheel-drive come standard."

+ whoever said the S6 was a fast car in the first place? .... in my eyes the only REAL FAST Audi's have either a 2.7T , 4.2T or the 5.2T (other than the older 5 cylinders) and some BT 1.8/2.0's

[audia4austin]

5.1 is what Audi claims.

[anthony911]

why would you compare a mustang to an audi.
the price is less than half
but like frank a6 said
would you rather own a car that justifies its price by being built with the same recycled coke cans you cash in for 10 cents at the grocery store or own a car that wont shred to pieces if you get into a fender bender because it has real material in it.
Mustangs have always been known to be quick, but by no means can be as luxurious as an audi.

Basically this article is the same as comparing a miata to a porsche. They both handle amazingly.
at the end of the day and you guys can disagree with me on this one if you want but if someone can afford a 55k and are looking to purchase one i can guarantee you that they are not eyeballing the broke ass company's flagship car.

If I can afford a 60k car trust me im not going to buy a 20k car because it gives me the same track times.
The guy who is boasting that his car is faster than an s6 and paid it 1/3 the price bla bla bla is just a thirty thousand dollar millionaire.

[G Men 08]

Agreed... strictly performance, unless u talk about the rs line.. it is subpar. But it is all of the other things that make them nice cars to drive. I am a Ford guy as well as an Audi guy, so I will say that the past few years I have been impressed with the new lineups. The false accusation of an Audi being some superfast race car lineup is believed by a lot of people who don't really know their cars that well.. I get people asking me all the time" woah that has the v8, it must be really fast!" I always tell them it has good power for what it is, but is certainly nothing to brag about in terms of performance. Keep em clean, keep em pretty, that's why I love them!

[Rated S]

I can pace an F430 in my car. I'd still rather have the F430.

[anthony911]

that's exactly my point..who cares about what you can match.
anyone can ultra modify a lada to match a mustang.
but what would you rather be seated in?

[audia4austin]

Can it stock? No. This is just shocking to see stats on the two cars side by side. It does show how far the V6 Mustang has come. It had 150hp ten years ago. These are good numbers for a V6 American car. The GT in 03 only ran 0-60 in 6.5.....

I can pace an F430 in my car. I'd still rather have the F430.

[audirs]

id still take an s6 over a mustang. if it was a roush mustang that would be a different story. the 2 cars shouldnt even be directly compared, they are 2 completely different cars

[G Men 08]

+1

[audirs]

here is the big part of the comparison you dont see



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[jmgraham78]

I will say, upon reading up the Ford V6 twin turbo motor is impressive for FORD. But Id rather push the audi than drive the Ford.

[audia4austin]

Thats a little more fair picture on the 2011 int.

[audia4austin]

I would never buy a ford for my self. All I am saying is this company has come a long way...

[FrankA6]

I would never buy a ford for my self. All I am saying is this company has come a long way...

They have come a long way, but they are still really far behind "REAL" car companies.

[eightrac]

These are good numbers for a V6 American car.

Those are good numbers for ANY N/A V6......

[eightrac]

They have come a long way, but they are still really far behind "REAL" car companies.

TopGear named Ford the "#1 auto maker in the world". VW was third.

Please define "Real" car companies because if you ask me, Audi is just the luxury side of VW. Similar to Lexus to Toyota and Infiniti to Nissan.

I'm not proclaiming that Ford is the best in the world since I did pass on several fords when looking at vehicles last week (we purchased an '04 allroad). Most seemed plasticy and somewhat brittle inside (escape, mariner and focus) as all low-cost vehicles do regardless of manufacturer. When you get into the mid-priced cars such as the Mustang Gt, Taurus and Super Duty the quality of the interiors where quite different from the lower priced models. High quality plastics and soft leathers are found on door panels and seats make the seem "different" than their low cost siblings.

[audirs]

i personally wouldnt say ford has come a long way, ford has always produced some pretty quick cars... all i am saying is that its retarded to compare an s6 to a mustang, 2 different animals. one is a 3500lb 2 door sports car, the other is a 4500lb 4 door luxury sedan. i respect the power out put of fords, but thats pretty much where it ends for me

[beemercer]

As far as power goes it's tough to deny Ford stepped their game up, V6 in the Mustang, the new 5.0, the V6TT pushing that fat pig Tauru, the new SVT Mustang to replace the GT500, they are all putting out good numbers.

[audia4austin]

This NA V6 really shocked me coming from ford. An American NA V6 putting down 305hp!? That's something I would expect from Toyota/Lexus or even Honda/Acura but not Ford and It gets 30mpg on the highway. That beats the Lexus motor in the is350. And BMW need two turbos to get this kind of mileage and power... Just crazy to me....

[audia4austin]

Motortrend got one to play with and got 0-60 5.1 and 1/4 mile in 13.7.... Thats pretty dang good for 22k.

[Bashar Khalifeh]

Frank "Audi has built some of the most dominant racecars of all time (something that ford wont ever be able to match)"

FORD GT40 - Killed every European car for years and years straight (Ferrari's, Porsche's , Lambo's) and I'm not talking about road killes, these were full out track days when they had all makers back miles behind.
Not to defend ford or any thing (I rather hate the company, and every car it ever made) but the GT is on of the all times great (40 years ago, and still today)

and who said japanes had never made that kind of power from a V6??? the NSX the most powerful sub 3.0L V6 N/A ever produced (300hp)... 15 years ago hahahaha

mind you the NSX costed 3-4 times the price of the mustang...
but it is 3-4 times the build quality, looks, and feel

so maybe they have a fast car, but how does it makes you feel being in it? I'd spend more money, to go slower, but feel better about the place I'm sitting and not be in a blue recycling box

[skiroad'r]

Beat the snot out of both cars for 2 years and then re do the test, I'll be the results are dramtatically different. <END OF DISCUSSION>

[Bashar Khalifeh]

^ Exactly

[FrankA6]

Frank "Audi has built some of the most dominant racecars of all time (something that ford wont ever be able to match)"

FORD GT40 - Killed every European car for years and years straight (Ferrari's, Porsche's , Lambo's) and I'm not talking about road killes, these were full out track days when they had all makers back miles behind.
Not to defend ford or any thing (I rather hate the company, and every car it ever made) but the GT is on of the all times great (40 years ago, and still today)

The GT40 has only won Le Mans 4 times.....its a great car, but cant match Audi and Porsche's wins, and they wont ever. And if you ask me, that ford motor isn't very revolutionizing......i could name tons of cars and motors that have had 300hp with a N/A motor YEARS ago. Im not being a European car snob at all and i give credit where its deserved, but i see nothing impressive here at all.

[Bashar Khalifeh]

^ I agree with you, if you are taking about the Mustang.
There is only one mustang in my books, a 67 GT500

[PaperToast]

for me its not the performance side so much, thought its always great to pass a mustang in 6 inches of snow and ice (quattro FTW), its the build quality.
when you close a door on a ford or any other American car, it feels like its made of recycled old fords.
close a door on a euro, and it has that solid thud sound to it.

whenever i detail a car from one of the big three its depressing the lack of quality on the interior.
pleather, chintzy plastic panels, bad carpet is only the beginning.
granted the big three have come a long way, but my 01 ar with 118k is still nicer than brand new models.
even my 98 volvo XC (RIP) had a nicer interior than many new cars.

one would think that the ford would have learned something from volvo while they had them . . .
and that GM might have learned something from saab while they had them . . .
need i go on?

[FrankA6]

^ i know what you mean man, i had a loaner car and it was a 2009 CTS with 700 miles on it, and my Audi with 103K miles on it felt a lot more solid and had less road noise, American cars are American cars and they wont ever be worth a fuck if you ask me.

[redneck truck]

Who's not a European car snob? I am, and for good reason. Having owned a car from GM, one from Ford, one from Chrysler, three from Nissan, one from VW, and one from Audi, there really is no comparison. However, I've got a Honda bike and have never had an Italian bike. Maybe a BMW or a Ducati will change my mind on motorcycles too.

You get at most what you pay for, almost universally. The exception is when you know something or know how to do something that few others do.

[BlkBullitt]

Beat the snot out of both cars for 2 years and then re do the test, I'll be the results are dramtatically different. <END OF DISCUSSION>

Go for it... the results will be the same.

I hate to say this, but I've had a million more problems with my A4 over my Mustang... and I beat the living hell out of my Mustang at both the drag strip and at AutoX events and Ford's quality is lightyears better then when my car was made in 2001. Audi seems to be producing better quality cars since the B5, but even the B8 A4s are having control arm / tire wear problems and they're brand new.

I love my Audi and I agree a V6 Mustang shouldn't be compared to the S6 (nor should Audi be compared to Ford seeing as they produce cars in completely different market segments), but bad mouthing the V6 Mustang is simply ignorant. For a MSRP starting at $22,195 you're getting quite a deal for your dollar... you can't even buy a new Audi for that.

[G Men 08]

Thank you! ^

[BlkBullitt]

Thank you! ^

No problem. It needs to be said and I have no problems speaking the truth as I am a car enthusiast and not a zealot for just one automobile. Would I take an S6 over a V6 Mustang if I had the choice... of course, who wouldn't, but again there is no reason to be bashing Ford in this case.

[audia4austin]

The point was this it amazing coming from Ford. Whom just one year ago was still using the ice age 4.0 V6 with 210hp and the GT V8 was only out gunning this by 10HP. This is a great direction for this company and I hope they keep it up.

The GT40 has only won Le Mans 4 times.....its a great car, but cant match Audi and Porsche's wins, and they wont ever. And if you ask me, that ford motor isn't very revolutionizing......i could name tons of cars and motors that have had 300hp with a N/A motor YEARS ago. Im not being a European car snob at all and i give credit where its deserved, but i see nothing impressive here at all.

[audia4austin]

My C5 Audi is a nightmare to keep running my brother has an 03 bullit and its has mods and he drives the shit out of it and the only thing that has ever gone wrong is bald back tires and replacement of the stock clutch. It has 110k miles and runs like the day it was born. Int is a nightmare but shit. My int is amazing and bose sounds great but my Fing reverse don’t work, traction control is out, abs is shot and it just got all new control arms and some throttle body lifters.... The expected tranny life on the 4.2 is what 150k if your lucky? I wouldn’t brag too much about build quality.

No problem. It needs to be said and I have no problems speaking the truth as I am a car enthusiast and not a zealot for just one automobile. Would I take an S6 over a V6 Mustang if I had the choice... of course, who wouldn't, but again there is no reason to be bashing Ford in this case.

[dannyn424]

first off the mustang is awesome and the interior looks awersome for the price, secondly you should compare our turboed 2.7ts to the tt mkz....... I think with dps and a chip theyd pull pretty hard.... and i like the mkz interior!!!!! Good job ford.. I will put the mkz on my used car option list one day..... Lucky for me american cars depreciate fast lol

[G Men 08]

Try 80 to 90k for the tranny, austin. Whenever I hear of one going it is right around that milage.