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    Active Member Two Rings B8 Tchuss's Avatar
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    does anyone know where to get 100 in north jersey

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyrah View Post
    SHELL! always, and is anyone else pissed off about paying $4.39 a gallon?! i hate california
    You're joking right? It's 1.40 per LITER in Vancouver for regular unleaded! lol.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings eyrah's Avatar
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    haha no joking! its for 91 oct. which is usually under 4 but just shot up. i guess thats what we get when every country in the mid east hates us
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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Efff that lost. Thats bs
    I use BP (sue me) lol
    Or costco
    91/93 idk octane always
    I once tried chevron bc i was low on gas and far from home... Never again even tho i put 93
    The gas i got was mixed w water and some bs.. And it was the "premium" i had to bust a mission to clean the fuel pump engine everything and refill with texaco.

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    I just discovered a 76 with racing gas 100. Is this okay to use? If so why does the APR tune only have a 93 mode?

    Sorry I'm sure this is a noob question and one I should probably do a search on, but I'm tired as all hell right now and being lazy. Thanks much Audizine!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings UmIsThisThingOn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmikcali View Post
    I just discovered a 76 with racing gas 100. Is this okay to use? If so why does the APR tune only have a 93 mode?

    Sorry I'm sure this is a noob question and one I should probably do a search on, but I'm tired as all hell right now and being lazy. Thanks much Audizine!
    APR offers a 100 Octane map. You could add it to the other 3 programs (stock, 93, 100, valet) if you could get 100 on a reliable basis.
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    Established Member Two Rings mishonio's Avatar
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    what about Costco gas? I use their Prem. Is there a downside to not going with Shell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UmIsThisThingOn View Post
    APR offers a 100 Octane map. You could add it to the other 3 programs (stock, 93, 100, valet) if you could get 100 on a reliable basis.

    I can get it reliably, the 76 on Barrington and Pico in West LA carries this gas, except that it's 10$ a gallon. Yikes! I'm just trying to justify the cost and assuming the only reason I'd ever buy this gas would be for autocross or a spirited road trip up in the canyons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishonio View Post
    what about Costco gas? I use their Prem. Is there a downside to not going with Shell?
    im not sure theres a downside, personally i like the piece of mind knowing the gas is top quality. i had a bunch of problems with my F-150 that were fuel related so im not taking any chances.. worth the extra couple pennies IMO
    - Pauly

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishonio View Post
    what about Costco gas? I use their Prem. Is there a downside to not going with Shell?
    Note that my comment applies to the Costco in the Carlsbad, CA area- may not be true for other locations.

    I have had a couple bad experiences with Costco gas so I just stay away from it now. A couple times I got very bad mpg, like 20% less than normal. And sometimes, this might just be me, but I feel like my car isn't producing the amount of power it should be.

    I stick with Shell nowadays despite the $0.10+ difference.

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    Only been going to chevron. Once in a while I find myself at a shell if it's the closest gas station and I am on E.
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    On US models is the octane number on the inside of the tank lid the US octane or German octane rating? I ask because I was going through the manual and it says 87 is the minimum and 91 is preferred but inside the tank lid says 91 is minimum. When using top tier gas is there any difference other than less power when you use 87 or 89 rather than 91?

    Quote Originally Posted by hoffman1980 View Post
    Audi Recommended Gasoline Retailers and Recommended Octane are two very different things and I did a quick explanation on them both since the thread was talking about recommended gas but all the posts ended up being about octane and not why you use the below companies gas.


    I know this is a old thread but just in case anyone comes across it like i did they will leave with all the correct information. Audi's Top Tier Gasoline is recommended for the adatives and other detergents that clean out the gunk and deposits that build up inside of the engine.

    http://www.toptiergas.com/
    Why TOP TIER

    The intention of the TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards is to create a winning situation for gasoline retailers, auto manufacturers and drivers. Currently, many gasoline retailers provide fuels with lower-quality additive packages that can build up deposits on fuel injectors and on intake valves. Others can build up deposits in combustion chambers and may lead to intake valve sticking. These lower levels of additives can have negative impacts on engine performance and vehicle responsiveness.

    TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:

    USA

    76 Stations
    Aloha Petroleum
    Conoco
    CountryMark
    Entec Stations
    Exxon
    Holiday Stationstores, Inc.
    Kwik Trip / Kwik Star
    MFA Oil Co.
    Mileage Stations
    Mobil
    Phillips 66
    Quik Trip
    Rebel Oil
    Road Ranger
    Severson Oil
    Shell
    Texaco
    The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
    Tri-Par Oil Co.
    U.S. Oil

    Octane at any USA gas station is measured the same but not all have the same additives and detergents to keep you fuel system and engine clean and gunk free but you can also buy the additive at those gas stations or a Audi dealer and add it every oil change or every service interval which Audi recommends which will do the same thing as Chevron, Exxon, Texaco and Shell except because of the longer interval you are adding a more concentrate version directly to one fuel tank of gas which is recommend to not fuel back up to you have run 95% of that tank through you cars system

    Now octane controls the combustion since we have removed lead from fuels way back when. Fuel is more combustible when the octane is lower and more stable when higher levels are in the fuel. Gasoline can com-bust just from pressure not needing spark. this is why all car makes and models have different recommended fuel along with Min/Max octane levels which are in your owners manual Audi usually says in manual and on the inside of your fuel door that 87 octane is the minimum because of there compression ratio (high compression ratio can cause fuel to com-bust / ignite from pressure then spark ignition happens late causing spark knock which is bad for piston heads and cylinders). But most engines fix that by retarding the timing causing the engine not to run at peak performance but cause no permanent harm just temporary stuff like less power and less fuel efficiency. Now if you car only calls for 87 then your just throwing you money away by putting a higher octane in you vehicle it does nothing for performance or fuel economy on stalk cars unless the car was designed to run on higher octane from the manufacturer.

    There are 3 different ways to measure Octane.

    In most countries, including Australia and all of those in Europe, the "headline" octane rating shown on the pump is the RON (Research Octane Number) is determined by running the fuel in a test engine with a variable compression ratio under controlled conditions, and comparing the results with those for mixtures of iso-octane and n-heptane. 600rpm test engine.

    (Motor Octane Number) (MON), or the aviation lean octane rating, which is a better measure of how the fuel behaves when under load, as it is determined at 900 rpm engine speed, instead of the 600 rpm for RON.[1] MON testing uses a similar test engine to that used in RON testing, but with a preheated fuel mixture, higher engine speed, and variable ignition timing to further stress the fuel's knock resistance. Depending on the composition of the fuel, the MON of a modern gasoline will be about 8 to 10 points lower than the RON, however there is no direct link between RON and MON. Normally, fuel specifications require both a minimum RON and a minimum MON

    Canada, the United States and some other countries, like Brazil, the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI, and often written on pumps as (R+M)/2). It may also sometimes be called the Pump Octane Number

    Difference between RON and AKI
    Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, the octane rating shown in Canada and the United States is 4 to 5 points lower than the rating shown elsewhere in the world for the same fuel.

    So the United States and Canada put the same exact fuels through a higher stress test using (RON+MON)/2 which is a average of the two called the AKI showing a lower octane but is 4 to 5points higher than what is listed on USA service stations which give the below numbers the same equivalent as European RON method.

    USA/Canada= Europe/Asia
    87 = 91/92
    88 = 92/93
    89 = 93/94
    90 = 94/95
    91 = 95/96
    93 = 97/98
    Now any fuel getting closer to 105 to 110 octane usually has lead in it that will cause damage to the catalytic converter which is in all newer model cars unless it is a track car which usually are not required to have one. For my Audi I looked up the price so i could just point this out $335 for after market OEM replacement to $950 for the Audi OEM before instillation.

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    I always get Shell V power if I can, Sunoco 91 if I can't

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    Sorry if I missed it - but lets throw something else in the works... what's everyone's thoughts on Ethanol? I was wathing Barrett-Jackson and they did a quick "Garage Talk," segment and discussed how bad ethanol is for engines! Good for the environment, bad on engines and actually bad on MPG!! It's hard to find a station without that damn sticker on each pump saying 10% Ethanol!
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    Here in central PA, I can't find any gas stations without ethanol anymore. I have tried 91-93 octane Sunoco, Exxon, Mobil, BP, Amaco, Shell, and even Sheetz (Pa equiv. to 7-11/Wawa/etc) in my 2.0t B7. I always got the best performance/gas mileage with BP and Shell 93 oct. Since the local BP went out of business, I only use Shell now for the B8 (unless I'm out of town and Nav can't find one nearby). I will say I noticed my gas mileage went down a bit when the local Shell started adding Ethanol to their gas a few years back.
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