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    1.8T (06a) Narrowband to Wideband Conversion Done Easy!

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    New to this forum but not to this car. I originally ran Unitronic 630 narrowband software and now run Eurodyne Maestro wideband software and let me say the new file is worlds better. Did this on my 2001 Audi TT 225 AMU. Any of you guys with the older TT thinking of going BT may be interested in this. Take it from me, someone who had narrowband and wideband BT software, this is well worth the effort. First off I am not responsible for anything you do to your car or anyone elses. This type of work is done at your own risk.

    Ok, I decided to make a collaboration of a few different DIY threads and advice I got along the way and make one final easy DIY thread.

    Things needed

    Wideband ECU
    Solder (60/40) & soldering iron
    New o2 harness
    Wideband o2 sensor
    wire & wire cutters
    heat shrink tubing
    15ohm 25 watt resistor and ECU pin
    picks and various other tools such as a 7/8 wrench for the o2 sensors

    First you will need your new o2 harness. You can order these from a VW or Audi dealer. Part number 1J0-973-733 If you are cool to the guy working he will probably put the pins in for you and you will end up with something like the pic below and cost around $15. You will also need another pin that you will have to insert into your ecu harness for VVT (pin 115). For this I suggest taking your ecu to the dealer with you and ask them for the correct size pin just to make sure.

    Your new o2 harness 1J0-973-733


    Your new pin for VVT (ecu pin#115)


    Now with your newly acquired pin and harness in hand locate the existing o2 harness. You will see 4 wires coming from that which are conveniently all used in your new harness.

    Existing 4 pin o2 harness


    From here get your soldering iron plugged in and make sure to have shrink tubing and a heat gun to re-insulate your wires.

    Your new wires will go as such

    Existing harness New harness
    Pin#1 goes to Pin#3
    Pin#2 goes to Pin#4
    Pin#3 goes to Pin#5
    Pin#4 goes to Pin#1
    (wire colors vary from some years and ecu but the pin out remains the same from the research I have done)

    Now you will have two wires left for your new o2 harness. You will then need to run the two new wires from the ecu harness. I used 22gauge strand wire and 60/40 solder.

    Pin 52 on ecu harness goes to Pin#6 on your new harness (there are two harnesses to the ecu, you need the larger side harness)


    Pin 71 on ecu harness goes to Pin#2 (same harness directly above pin 52)


    To disassemble your ecu harness look for the purple clips on either side.




    Use your pick and pull the clips out.




    Then pull the rubber orange seal out


    From here look for the tabs on back of the harness and pull the back off


    Now you will see another purple clip, pull that straight out.


    From here, gently pull out the two wire harnesses and add in your new wires (pins are there already and if you look very closely you can see tabs that will bend over and hold the wire in place. (no soldering necessary here, enter wires in through the orange seal)


    Once you have your two new wires in and soldered into place, reassemble the ecu harness and move on to the VVT resistor.

    The resistor I used was a 15ohm, 25 watt resistor


    Now for the VVT you will use the other smaller ecu harness and pin 115 shown here


    This side disassembles the same way as the other with the purple pins. Once disassembled, you will use your pic and push a small rubber grommet that is lodged into the pin 115 spot out and proceed to insert you new pin into this spot. It should "click" into place when it is in the correct orientation.


    Use your pick and make a hole in the rubber grommet so you can thread your new wire in threw it.




    Soldered one end of the resistor to the wire from pin 115 you added, and the other end of the resistor into the evap solenoid harness at pin#1.


    Once you have all this done, clean everything up, zip tie your wires out of the way of anything hot, I relocated my evap solenoid under my rain tray and wrapped all the wires together with electric tape and plastic tubing for a clean look. Now you can plug in your new o2 sensor and ecu and enjoy your new MAfless file.

    If there is anything in particular you would like a pic of just ask and I will see what I can do. As for pics of actual soldering, well I figure if you can not handle soldering on your own you should not be attempting this to start. Good luck and enjoy.


    Modified by jwalker1.8 at 9:07 AM 2-8-2010
    Eurodyne Maestro, Genesis 550's, Devils Own Dual Nozzle W/M, IE Rods, Garrett 50 trim .63ar, Tial 38mm wastegate, Tial Q BOV, 3" Stainless turboback, Big Port APR intake manifold, AEB head, Spearco FMIC, MAFless, Turbosmart MBC, VR6 Throttle Body, 4 Bar FPR Ect, Ect, Ect...395whp & 338WTQ

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    Active Member Two Rings Jwalker1.8's Avatar
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    Wow, no one does major mods on these boards I see
    Eurodyne Maestro, Genesis 550's, Devils Own Dual Nozzle W/M, IE Rods, Garrett 50 trim .63ar, Tial 38mm wastegate, Tial Q BOV, 3" Stainless turboback, Big Port APR intake manifold, AEB head, Spearco FMIC, MAFless, Turbosmart MBC, VR6 Throttle Body, 4 Bar FPR Ect, Ect, Ect...395whp & 338WTQ

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    what ecu did you use? and will it make just a chipped tt run much better?

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    excellent write-up. This is exactly what this community needs, serious modifications and people that are not afraid to get their hands dirty beyond OTS bought parts.

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    Active Member Two Rings Jwalker1.8's Avatar
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    Thanks.
    Eurodyne Maestro, Genesis 550's, Devils Own Dual Nozzle W/M, IE Rods, Garrett 50 trim .63ar, Tial 38mm wastegate, Tial Q BOV, 3" Stainless turboback, Big Port APR intake manifold, AEB head, Spearco FMIC, MAFless, Turbosmart MBC, VR6 Throttle Body, 4 Bar FPR Ect, Ect, Ect...395whp & 338WTQ

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    Jwalker, just curious how much hp/tq are you puttin down to the wheels so far?

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    Active Member Two Rings Jwalker1.8's Avatar
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    I went on the dyno last weekend and made 395whp and 338wtq...This after the conversion and on Eurodyne software...Before the conversion on Unitronics software I made 325whp...only changes were software and I went from 630cc injectors to 550s...so smaller injectors, same boost (PSI), and wideband made 70hp more...this is with no timing tweaks at all...probably still have 30-40hp left in my setup if I max it out.
    Eurodyne Maestro, Genesis 550's, Devils Own Dual Nozzle W/M, IE Rods, Garrett 50 trim .63ar, Tial 38mm wastegate, Tial Q BOV, 3" Stainless turboback, Big Port APR intake manifold, AEB head, Spearco FMIC, MAFless, Turbosmart MBC, VR6 Throttle Body, 4 Bar FPR Ect, Ect, Ect...395whp & 338WTQ

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    Senior Member Two Rings 00black1.8t's Avatar
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    Anyway to get these pics loaded? :(

    Anyone know if this is the same on the A4 conversion?
    2000' A4, Gen2 GTX3071r, Maestro, 2L

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    I cant see the pictures

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    To bad pics don't work. Is the OP gone?
    01 Allroad Tiptronic, TCU tune, mild stg 3 (350 HP) tune (stock injectors) KraftwerkTurbo TM1. Lower, Wider. Custom tip vent pod with Podi
    02 Allroad 6 spd, Kraftwerk Turbo TM6, 750cc, 3" MAF, piggy, FMIC, CM stg 5 (hate). 30 psi at 3600 rpm. Needs stronger rods (coming).
    05 Golf TDI
    Looking for 2001 A4 1.8T quattro manual with blown motor
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    www.kraftwerkturbo.com

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    Veteran Member Four Rings RENOxDECEPTION's Avatar
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    bump for new pics?

    2000 Audi A4 B5 1.8TQM AEB/06A
    1998 Audi A4 B5 4.2QM (Thread)
    2000 Audi A4 B5 1.8TQM K24 Turbo, AEB Wideband

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by RENOxDECEPTION View Post
    bump for new pics?
    another bump for pics!
    01 Allroad Tiptronic, TCU tune, mild stg 3 (350 HP) tune (stock injectors) KraftwerkTurbo TM1. Lower, Wider. Custom tip vent pod with Podi
    02 Allroad 6 spd, Kraftwerk Turbo TM6, 750cc, 3" MAF, piggy, FMIC, CM stg 5 (hate). 30 psi at 3600 rpm. Needs stronger rods (coming).
    05 Golf TDI
    Looking for 2001 A4 1.8T quattro manual with blown motor
    www.regulatorfix.com
    www.kraftwerkturbo.com

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    Yeah, I hear dat, Photobucket has taken a poop too, they want me to pay $400 per year to update my small account (10 pictures) to allow 3rd party hosting - WTF!!!!!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings RENOxDECEPTION's Avatar
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    I have done this and also swapped on a VVT CCT, performing it to a second car soon, will post new pictures.

    2000 Audi A4 B5 1.8TQM AEB/06A
    1998 Audi A4 B5 4.2QM (Thread)
    2000 Audi A4 B5 1.8TQM K24 Turbo, AEB Wideband

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Aside from Unitronics ($100) and Reflect Tuning ($90 shipped), is someone making them at a reasonable cost?
    01 Allroad Tiptronic, TCU tune, mild stg 3 (350 HP) tune (stock injectors) KraftwerkTurbo TM1. Lower, Wider. Custom tip vent pod with Podi
    02 Allroad 6 spd, Kraftwerk Turbo TM6, 750cc, 3" MAF, piggy, FMIC, CM stg 5 (hate). 30 psi at 3600 rpm. Needs stronger rods (coming).
    05 Golf TDI
    Looking for 2001 A4 1.8T quattro manual with blown motor
    www.regulatorfix.com
    www.kraftwerkturbo.com

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    In for pics!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Can pics be reloaded?
    01 Allroad Tiptronic, TCU tune, mild stg 3 (350 HP) tune (stock injectors) KraftwerkTurbo TM1. Lower, Wider. Custom tip vent pod with Podi
    02 Allroad 6 spd, Kraftwerk Turbo TM6, 750cc, 3" MAF, piggy, FMIC, CM stg 5 (hate). 30 psi at 3600 rpm. Needs stronger rods (coming).
    05 Golf TDI
    Looking for 2001 A4 1.8T quattro manual with blown motor
    www.regulatorfix.com
    www.kraftwerkturbo.com

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