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    Veteran Member Three Rings 05A$SE's Avatar
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    Im looking to go out of the loop here and try to do an awd to rwd conversion on my car. Go ahead and flame if you want and make a big deal out of me not wanting awd. thats fine i have a truck for bad weather as well as a b5 awd a4. i want a rwd car for the summer and to play around with,

    In the next few days i'm going to begin to install a southbend stage 4 ofe ss clutch into my 2005 b6 a4 1.8t 6 speed. while the transmission is out i thought it would be best to address this idea of converting my car to rwd.

    i know there are 4:1 center diff kits but i dont want that, what im looking to find out is would i just need someone to weld my center diff so that the gears for the fwd and rwd spin together or am i looking to make it direct from the trans to rwd. also another thing that im trying to figure out is if i remove the front axles will my front wheels/brakes be ables to stay on the car and spin. EX, is the axle holding the front drivetrain on the car. or is there a bearing that the front rolls on.


    thanks in advance
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    subscribed. being in socal where its always summer I think it would be fun to have rwd sometimes.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings NightRoller USP's Avatar
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Didnt 021.8t (something like that) go from fwd to rwd, then to awd?
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    to make your quattro rwd: take out the center differential and have the gears welded up (don't be sloppy). remove the front drive axles and disassemble the outer cv joints so that you can reinstall the "stubs" back into the font hubs as they are necessary for the wheel bearings. button it all up and you're done.

    I have heard from others that having the open rear differential = fail when it comes to 'fun' driving; so you may look into a limited slip differential.

    Quote Originally Posted by NightRoller USP View Post
    Didnt 021.8t (something like that) go from fwd to rwd, then to awd?
    No.
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_DUB View Post
    No.
    He actually did exactly that, his name is Pete, and his name on here is 02VW1.8T

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Haenszel20v's Avatar
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]. View Post
    He actually did exactly that, his name is Pete, and his name on here is 02VW1.8T
    Hahahaha, i love pete.

    He's another one of the crazy vortex converts.
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    i misunderstood, i thought he was saying something about OEM fwd>rwd>awd in 2002..
    BT/BAT build threads make me happy I have a stock turbo



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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_DUB View Post
    i misunderstood, i thought he was saying something about OEM fwd>rwd>awd in 2002..
    Its all good...
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    who would be a good company to talk to about a lsd for the rear? or is there any companies that make lsd's for our cars? i recall seeing them for the vdubs but i dont think i remember anything for audi
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Stasis makes a LSD. We have 3.89 gearing.


    link: http://www.034motorsport.com/product...ducts_id=17562
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    jeeeeezeee thats alot more then i was expecting the lsd to cost. not trying to sound like a cheap ass but wow, whats the problem with the open differential?
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    nevermind on my question i found what the difference is, clicky , but now this leads to another question, basically all thats going to happen if i do the center diff work and re-construct the front shafts then ill have a rwd car with an open differential, therefore what am i losing performance wise? when i hit the gas coming out of a turn obviously it will not be the same as an lsd because both wheels will not be spinning the same speed, would the only ending difference be that it wont be as easy to throw the back end out (aka power slide whatever)?
    Last edited by 05A$SE; 01-13-2010 at 10:43 AM.
    2005 DG On Black Special Edition 1.8T 6MT
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    2012 C63 AMG - 600HP and counting
    2006 Corvette - GTR (1 of 7) - Blue One on GOOGLE
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    1992 M998 - Slantback Project
    1990 240SX - big turbo drift missile
    1989 K1500 - LQ4 6L90 Swap
    1986 RX7 - Truck conversion, LS1, 72* angle kit

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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    traction will be severely reduced.
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    any alternatives to the stasis? anyway i can have the rear welded so that its always locked instead of open?
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    You can weld the rear. You will burn through tires. You will slide through the intersection into then light pole kitty corner if trying to make that "yellow" light left or right turn. the LSD would be a must for a fun rwd conversion
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    i'd be in a Bmw if i wanted a RWD car. I bought the Audi for the Quattro, took me out of the stupid mistakes alot of time. I'm not trying to flame but just giving you an advise that if you really want some fun with a RWD car, Get something which came with RWD since its chassis, transmission and engine is build for RWD. Converting your Audi will get your RWD but wont get you the exact fun a BMW can give you. Rest is on you. I'd love to see a RWD audi sideways by the way.
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Fairplay if you plan on keeping the car forever. Converting it will seriously hurt the value of the car when you go to sell it. It is an interesting idea though.

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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by Haenszel20v View Post
    traction will be severely reduced.
    Yep unless you stay stock turbo you'll be ok. I ran for a but like 3-4k miles in RWD mode. Either way i like it being AWD right now
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Doesnt someone on here have a centre diff for sale for $100. If I where you I'd buy that as a backup to your own. So that when you weld it and it doesnt work out, as in you cannont afford and LSD, you can put the replacement Diff in.

    I think it was old guy or dougyfresh... maybe neither of them jsut remember seeing it somewhere. I also think it was a 4:1 diff too...
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by davkav View Post
    Doesnt someone on here have a centre diff for sale for $100. If I where you I'd buy that as a backup to your own. So that when you weld it and it doesnt work out, as in you cannont afford and LSD, you can put the replacement Diff in.

    I think it was old guy or dougyfresh... maybe neither of them jsut remember seeing it somewhere. I also think it was a 4:1 diff too...
    Thats what i did used a spare center diff and welded it up, I went auto-x when it was RWD in the rain and it rarely got side ways cause of the stupid open rear diff. So if you go RWD you'd need to buy the 2000 dollar rear LSD to make the car any fun.
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by davkav View Post
    Doesnt someone on here have a centre diff for sale for $100. If I where you I'd buy that as a backup to your own. So that when you weld it and it doesnt work out, as in you cannont afford and LSD, you can put the replacement Diff in.

    I think it was old guy or dougyfresh... maybe neither of them jsut remember seeing it somewhere. I also think it was a 4:1 diff too...
    I am selling one, its modded for 4:1 bias (might be sold actually).

    Regardless, I wouldn't want to sell that to someone who will weld it together. That would be a waste for this diff.
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Somewhat off-topic but still differential related: (hope you see this Doug)

    My question arose from playing Forza where you can "upgrade" your car to a limited slip diff from a "1-way" "1.5-way" and "2-way". It seems logical that a 1-way would only lock on acceleration and a 2-way would lock on acceleration and deceleration, but what would a 1.5-way do?

    This would make the STaSIS a 2-way.
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    1.5 is the best of both worlds. a 2 way is what drifters prefer, because the rear slips easily into a slide. a 1 way it is much harder to slide the rear, but during on acceleration cornering, the 1 way provides power to the wheels with grip, 2 way provides power to both wheels, much like a locker. 1.5 way will bite on straight line acceleration and straight line deceleration, but in turns it still provides power only to the wheel with the most grip. this is due mainly to the difference in casting or billeting the spider gears and pinion ring, and whether they are symmetrical or asymmetrical in the housing.

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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    the stasis unit on the 034 site would be a 1.5 way. it would be ridiculous to put a 2 way diff on an AWD car, unless the cars nickname was godzilla

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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Sort of off topic(sorry OP), but how would the car drive, do you guys think, being AWD with a 4:1 center diff and the Stasis limited-slip differential?
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    if i were to get a good deal on a 4:1 center diff then i would buy that and keep it as is but id rather just have the rwd, i have a spare awd a4 and a truck.

    this equivelant to the stasis? just not paying for the name maybe?
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    Regardless, I wouldn't want to sell that to someone who will weld it together. That would be a waste for this diff.
    Hell no! I meant keep yours as the back up and he can test the RWD on the one he has fitted at the mo.
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    Re: turbo, clutch, rwd conversion

    well whats the price lets get this thing back on the road. i can always switch to an lsd later
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