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    DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

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    After a few requests, I've decided to put together a DIY on how I made my "RS4 Style" grill.

    So lets start with a list of things you need.

    1) Stock grill shell
    2) Duramix 4040 (what i used), or Duramix 4058 (slower drying time)
    3) Duramix applicator or a DIY applicator made from a caulking gun (which i used)
    4) Expanded steel (comes in 4x8 foot lengths if you go to a metal shop, or buy an off cut. I found a decent sized off cut for 10$ at McKinnon Metals in Toronto)
    5) an angle grinder, die grinder or cutoff wheel to cut the expanded steel. (It will turn your dremel bits into turd)
    6) plenty of sand paper and palm sander
    7) Adhesion promoter and paint of your choice.
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    Onto the work:

    The first step AFTER REMOVING THE GRILL, is to cut out your stock centre.




    Then once this stock centre is out, you can sand the shell smooth. I used my dremel and sanding cylinders to smooth it out. Keep in mind if you use this method, the sanding cylinders clog quickly.
    It should look something like this:



    After you have a smooth grill shell, make a cardboad template to fit inside the opening. Once you have the proper size/shape, you can trace this onto your expanded steel, and cut it out:



    Now the fun part begins. You may want to do this outdoor because the Duramix fumes will get to you
    Spread the duramix onto the stock grill shell. Try to do it as evenly as possible but make sure to fill any holes (on the sides) and as well as moulding the black part to the chrome part in a smooth transition.
    It should look something like this:




    Next, sand the duramix as smooth as possible. This is the time consuming part. You want to make sure everything is a consistent level, and if there are any low spots, be sure to fill them now. I used (bondo) spot filler, but i recommend using more duramix.

    Once everything is sanded to your satisfaction, sit the expanded steel cutout into the opening. My cutout was large enough so it sits in without falling through the other side. Once its in the place you want it, apply more duramix to every possible contact point between the expanded steel, and your grill shell.
    it will look something like this:



    After you apply the duramix to the front of the grill and it has dried, flip it over and do the same to the backside. This will ensure it is secure and permanent.
    Then sand smooth the areas you just bonded.

    The next step is cutting the emblem mount out from your old grill.
    Like this:


    Note the angle it has been cut on:


    Then use the duramix again to bond the emblem mount into place. You will need to cut an opening in the expanded steel for the hood release to come through.

    Once everything has been sanded as smooth as possible and any low spots have been filled, you are ready to paint.

    First apply an even coat of adhesion promoter. This will help the paint stick to any surfaces it may have problems sticking to.

    The spray on the paint of your choice. I used duplicolor black primer and then flat black paint. This chipped fairly easily. I resanded it and repainted it using Tremclad rust paint (satin black). The tremclad has held up very well and still have no stone chips or anything.





    and VOILA!
    it also matches the OEM Ultrasport fog grills very well....the main reason I did this.






    I also used a palm sander in order to get the plastic to one consistent thickness (to avoid gouges and waves)
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU

    Great writeup!

    Same process for both upper and lower grills?

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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    +1. I was one of the guys who asked you about your grill too so thanks for the write up. :)

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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    started my RS4 style lower grilles last weekend. Going to tackle this DIY this weekend. Thanks for the write up!
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    Quote Originally Posted by 04b6sport View Post
    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU

    Great writeup!

    Same process for both upper and lower grills?
    The lower grill is just cut to fit, and I used black rubber hose as a grill surround and zip-tied into place. I'm working on using the OEM non-ultrasport lower grill to fit the USP lower with the same style grill. I'll make a write up on that when I'm done ;-)

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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    Very sex. Rep added :)

    I should've made you do this for me when I had the chance..hahaha

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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    Great write up,
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    Nice work...too much effort for me to attempt, but I appreciate the craftsmanship!

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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    Great work! Looks great as well!
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    that seems like way to much work, but the end result looks great!

    then again, im in a wicked lazy mood right now.
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell



    Here's how this one was done:

    The hood grill is the Uberhaus grill found at LLTek.com. I ditched the RS badge. I then took off the chrome rings from the original grill, cut the tabs off, and used a black epoxy to glue directly onto the mesh.

    I did not have to cut the mesh for the hood release. The instructions that came with the grill suggested bending the release arm, but I was able to leave it alone. I only had to shave down one side to avoid the arm from rubbing against the mesh.

    Easy. Simple. Done.

    For the lower center grill, I ordered the same mesh screen from LLTek (offered as part of their B5 A4/S4 RSR bodykit - also by Uberhaus). I took measurements of the top edge of the lower grill (inlcluding frame) and added 3-4 inches. I did the same for top to bottom measuring. LLTek then cut a sheet to the given size and sent it on it's way to me.

    Once I had the sheet, I took the USP lower center grill off and cut out the center leaving only the frame. Make sure the inside of the frame is smoothed down.

    Take the frame and place over the mesh screen. Move it around to line up the mesh to look good (to match the hood grill). Once that's done, trace around the inside of the frame onto the mesh. With the frame removed, draw another line that's about 1/2 inch or so outside of the trace line. That will be your cut line.

    With the mesh cut, use black epoxy to adhere the mesh to the frame. Once all is done, I used a spray can of PlastiDip to blacken the frame and provide a consistent look between the frame and mesh. Go with several light coats (5-7) for best results. I also found that the strengh of PlastiDip prevented any chipping from road debris.

    For the final touch, there are 3 support bars in the opening where the lower center grill goes and one support bar for the hood grill. Those support bars are factory painted whatever color your car is (for me - Silver Metalic). With the grills in place, those bars would show through the mesh. I taped off and used the PlastiDip on these bars to hide them. Again, only do a few light coats for the best results.

    Install and enjoy!
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    haha thanks everybody. good luck! feel free to post questions here.
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    i also recently did an RS grill for my car. thought about doing it the same way you did but got lazy and did mine a little differently. i won't post mine here as this is your DIY. Props though, your's looks great! couple of pointers though for other people trying this:
    - the OE grill is curved, curve the mesh too
    - try to make the ends where the mesh meets the frame symmetrical, it will look better.
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    Quote Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_DUB View Post
    i also recently did an RS grill for my car. thought about doing it the same way you did but got lazy and did mine a little differently. i won't post mine here as this is your DIY. Props though, your's looks great! couple of pointers though for other people trying this:
    - the OE grill is curved, curve the mesh too
    - try to make the ends where the mesh meets the frame symmetrical, it will look better.
    this is a good point i forgot to mention.
    I didn't have to curve my mesh because when i cut it, the heat from the angle grinder curved it perfectly....so unless yours does the same.... CURVE IT TO FIT!
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    CyberPMG, I couldn't find the screen from LLtek's site for the lower grill. Can you post the link?
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    Very nice!
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    now make a few of them and sell them here :)

    awesome DIY, I might have to try this someday with a spare grill
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    Re: DIY: "RS4 Style" Mesh grill in stock grill shell

    Quote Originally Posted by diplomat128 View Post
    now make a few of them and sell them here :)

    awesome DIY, I might have to try this someday with a spare grill
    mine was a spare grill well worth it.
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    Sorry to revive this thread but i'm dying to know what happens with the hood lever that pops through the rings?
    And do you let the duramix dry before sanding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattman View Post
    You will need to cut an opening in the expanded steel for the hood release to come through.

    he mentions it right there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog7373 View Post
    Sorry to revive this thread but i'm dying to know what happens with the hood lever that pops through the rings?
    After this mod your car magically never breaks down and no longer needs oil changes so you never need to open the hood again
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    Quote Originally Posted by victimdumper View Post
    he mentions it right there
    Ahh shit my bad i read it too fast. I was overwhelmed with the pretty pictures

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    I haven't been on AZ in a while...but thought I should chime in since it's my thread :-D

    Its 2012. They have aftermarket injection molded RS4 style grills on ebay now. and they fit great. in fact, I took my custom one off and replaced it with one of those. save yourself the headache...it'll run you 80$ on ebay, which is less than the materials will cost you to make it.

    back when I did this, there was NO option for an RS4 style grill on the market.

    cheers ;)

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    It may be old but I think I can use this to do my B7 S-Line grill to make a RS6 style Grill, I bought a big roll of the metal mesh a few years back so it's time to put it to some use.

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    i was board last night so i chopped the center out of my grill, got it all sanded down. the expanded steal i had which was cut to fit the center on an oettinger (made two sets) just needs a slight trimming to fit. napa didn't have the duramix 4040 and the SEM equivalent they had was over $50 so i'm gonna snag some online later today.


    they have these on ebay but i dont think it will match the expanded steal i used on the oettinger lower i have and it looks a bit on the cheap side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattman View Post
    it also matches the OEM Ultrasport fog grills very well....the main reason I did this.





    I also used a palm sander in order to get the plastic to one consistent thickness (to avoid gouges and waves)

    What are the specs on the suspension and wheels?

    I know I'm late, but still would love to know the specs and offset as well as tire size

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    Doing this to the lower section of the grill under the bumper also, would add to the good looks of this upgrade.
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    I will pay someone like 150 bucks to make me a lower grill!

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    bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gberg888 View Post
    I will pay someone like 150 bucks to make me a lower grill!
    Same

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    Great DIY!

    I simply bought a B6 RS-style grille though, same as the LLtek ones. Cost? $35. I'm not sure how LLtek justify selling the EXACT same item for $80.
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    Anyone done it on the non usp lower grille?
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    Saved screenshots of this mod for my things to do list. Nolly used lower grille from a 2002 TT and this guy (GOR720) used one from an RS4. Looks really good!




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    would love to know more about either of these DIYs.

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