Oil soaked coil pack???

[561audia4]

The code read a misfire on cylinder 2 and when I pulled the coil pack it was soaked in oil....what could be causing this? how can I fix it? Thanks in advance

[shoppingcart111]

Valve cover gasket leaking or plug threads leaking, that's only two sources where oil can come from as far as I know. Was it the entire pack or just the shaft? If its the entire pack, you have have more issues than just the pack.

[561audia4]

It was the entire shaft....I dont understand when you ask if it was the entire coil pack....Would it be an expensive deal to fix?

[geralddh15]

X2 valve cover gasket. Just throw a new one asap and your good to go. Under $100 fix.

[AUDIchad]

Probably a valve cover gasket. I noticed some oil around one of my spark plugs and I noticed the gasket was leaking when I took a closer look. If it's leaking enough it could get to the coilppack.

I recently took my car to the dealership for an oil change and they found some oil leaking from another seal (crankshaft-maybe). They told me there is a pump that vents pressure from inside and if this pump goes out, pressure builds and will start to blow out these seals or gaskets. They replaced this pump, the crankshaft seal and the valve cover gasket. It was expensive (of coarse), but I didn't have time to fool with trying to do it myself.

Not very technical- I know, but maybe it's something you can check into...

[561audia4]

X2 valve cover gasket. Just throw a new one asap and your good to go. Under $100 fix.

Yeah im mechanically handicapped......How many hours am i looking at for labor so I dont get ripped off....

[HeymyAudi]

Its mad easy ! If you need help let me know I can help you out

[561audia4]

Its mad easy ! If you need help let me know I can help you out

i sent you a PM

[A4 Moda]

Valve cover gasket it is.

IT will take you no more than 1 hour to strip all the hardware off your valve cover (tubes, lines, screws, bolts), replace the gasket, clean up the valve cover (inside), and install everything back where it was.

Please please please, double check the bently manual for torque specs. You do not want to overtighten the valvecover. It is extremely easy to over crank it, and end up with a bigger leak.

GL

[shoppingcart111]

It was the entire shaft....I dont understand when you ask if it was the entire coil pack....Would it be an expensive deal to fix?

Sorry it was a bad joke, when I said it was covered in oil the joke was if the top of pack was covered then you have oil all over the top of your motor which is a bad situation. Like everyone else is saying its the valve cover gasket and easy fix.

Cheers

[old guy]

Valve cover gasket it is.

IT will take you no more than 1 hour to strip all the hardware off your valve cover (tubes, lines, screws, bolts), replace the gasket, clean up the valve cover (inside), and install everything back where it was.

Please please please, double check the bently manual for torque specs. You do not want to overtighten the valvecover. It is extremely easy to over crank it, and end up with a bigger leak.

GL

Actually, as long as you get a valve cover gasket that has metal torque limiting inserts it's pretty hard to mess it up. Just snug it down on the inserts and the rubber will automatically be compressed the correct amount. Easy peasy.

[Molotov]

http://www.a4mods.com/index.php?page...tml&category=5

It's easy.

[A4 Moda]

Thank you.
I did not know this.

Any link to purchase these items? Is it a VW/Audi specific item?

Actually, as long as you get a valve cover gasket that has metal torque limiting inserts it's pretty hard to mess it up. Just snug it down on the inserts and the rubber will automatically be compressed the correct amount. Easy peasy.

[old guy]

I picked up one from Autozone. Don't recall the manufacturer but it was written in German. They didn't have a listing for an '03 A4 so i just asked for an '03 Passat. The gasket had metal inserts around each mounting bolt hole. Once you snug up to the inserts the rubber is at the correct compression. If you crank down harder you will not compress the gasket any further. You will only strip out the bolts. I think you will find that most of the decent valve cover gaskets use the inserts. I would not consider installing one without them.

[A4 Moda]

Thank you.

I used my "break your bank, sell your kid" snap-on ditigal torque wrench for only a measely $400

This information is going in my little golden b6 book for next time.

I picked up one from Autozone. Don't recall the manufacturer but it was written in German. They didn't have a listing for an '03 A4 so i just asked for an '03 Passat. The gasket had metal inserts around each mounting bolt hole. Once you snug up to the inserts the rubber is at the correct compression. If you crank down harder you will not compress the gasket any further. You will only strip out the bolts. I think you will find that most of the decent valve cover gaskets use the inserts. I would not consider installing one without them.

[jursch2211]

to the op, if you are looking to just fix it and not worry about it for a long time. its really only about a 30 min job. If you have down time don't need the car, you can look into cleaning up your engine bay..

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[dino]

Recently happened to me. Here are a few pics when I replaced my valve cover gasket.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288270

[clm6113]

I recently had loss of power above 15psi. I suspected a loose vacuum/FMIC hose. The second time it happened I noticed the CEL flashing. Quick forum check lead to coil pack as the most likely source. VAG produced two notes - multi cylinder misfire and number 2 cylinder misfire. Upon extracting the #1 coil pack (and damaging a brittle clip) I found what seemed to be an incredible amount of oil around the coil pack shaft. Same with # two. Any chance the coil packs are still good and the presence of oil is the issue causing the misfires? Just wondering if I should order more coil packs when I order the gasket kit. Thanks.

[nofearhawk]

Order the packs, always good to have spares. And it can be the oil, I had a head gasket leak that was soaking my plugs/packs in oil causing misfires. Coilpacks were still good afterwards.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Victor Reinz gaskets are GREAT! I just installed one about a month ago. For the price you cant beat it!

Click HERE to order or for more information.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Jason

[NuVega]

If your going to replace your valve cover gasket you might as well change your cam tensioner gasket too since it will involve the same process in equipment removal.

[Charles.waite]

+1 on the victor Reinz. Replaced mine a few months back and it worked great.

OP don't believe everyone when they say its easy. It SHOULD be easy, but the advanced age of our cars makes the plastic parts attached to the PCV VERY brittle and prone to snapping when you remove them. I found out the hard way. What should have been a quick 1 hour Gasket replacement turned into a few days of hunting down PCV parts and jerry rigging a heater hose for the shitty plastic PCV breather.

Now if you're fine with the possibility of more work like that, by all means do it. Its very simple! But if the idea of something else breaking scares you or you can't afford a few days downtime take it to a shot. It should be no more than an hours labor and the gasket is like $20.

Edit: Also +1 on the cam tensioner gasket as NuVega said. You're already in there, so just replace both!

[Dan[FN]6262]

lol have either of you ever replaced the cam tensioner gasket? to do it right, you have to remove the cams and that involves removing the timing belt. which to do that correctly you have to pull the lock carrier forward. lol it's a lot more involved than the valve cover gasket

[Charles.waite]

Really?

Now I haven't done it myself so you may be right, but I was under the impression that it was as easy as the DIY above assuming you have the Cam Chain Tensioner locking tool.

Edit: linked to the original DIY as the stickied DIY has broken pics.

[Dan[FN]6262]

I said to "do it right", because usually there is gasket material left on the surfaces that need scrapped off to make a good seal. otherwise it'll start leaking again in no time. I've changed like 7 of them dude lol I know all about the process of doing it properly

[Charles.waite]

I said to "do it right", because usually there is gasket material left on the surfaces that need scrapped off to make a good seal. otherwise it'll start leaking again in no time. I've changed like 7 of them dude lol I know all about the process of doing it properly

Didn't think about leftover material, but yea that's no good. Sounds like doing it right (which I'm all for) then is a much more involved process as you say. Good to know, thanks Dan.

[andrew.k]

VCG

[clm6113]

Thanks for the info. I ordered the gasket kit above (literally shipped 8 minutes after I ordered it!) and a torque wrench. I'll let you know how it turns out in 8-10 days when the parts arrive.

[petert17]

Hi everyone, let me jump on this thread here since I started off with the same problem. I had soaked coils too. So, because I needed my car everyday I bought 4 coil packs and valve cover gasget and plugs from NAPA. I replaced them pretty easily, but came across some broken hoses at the crankcase breather, fixed that the best I could. Initally car ran fine for 10-20 miles then CEL comes on. Now i keep getting p071, p0301, p0302. I researched all sites including this one. More confused now. What next should I try? Thanks in advance. BTW, I have 04 a4 b6 1.8t Q, AMB engine.

[waldo1324]

Hi everyone, let me jump on this thread here since I started off with the same problem. I had soaked coils too. So, because I needed my car everyday I bought 4 coil packs and valve cover gasget and plugs from NAPA. I replaced them pretty easily, but came across some broken hoses at the crankcase breather, fixed that the best I could. Initally car ran fine for 10-20 miles then CEL comes on. Now i keep getting p071, p0301, p0302. I researched all sites including this one. More confused now. What next should I try? Thanks in advance. BTW, I have 04 a4 b6 1.8t Q, AMB engine.

The car ran bad from the start.. it takes those 10- 20 miles to cycle through and findthe codes.
sounds to me you have a complete hose off somewhere. search it up, there will be diagrams. personally im gutting it as soon as i can find an acceptable route to keep my breather and booster nice.

[walky_talky20]

lol have either of you ever replaced the cam tensioner gasket? to do it right, you have to remove the cams and that involves removing the timing belt. which to do that correctly you have to pull the lock carrier forward. lol it's a lot more involved than the valve cover gasket

Dan, I'm going to respectfully disagree with you here. I've had nothing but success with just replacing the gasket and not removing either camshaft. The gasket is metal and does not leave behind any significant residue. It is actually the half-moon insert that seems to cause the majority of the problem anyway. I do take time to clean the surfaces but just a quick spray down with some brake clean and mirror check is all I've needed to do. But even if you really wanted to remove the CCT entirely to clean it spotless, it certainly does not require removing the timing belt or even moving the exhaust camshaft at all. Only the intake cam need be removed to fully service the CCT. I suppose you could argue "correctly" on that. But practically speaking, nothing more is necessary.

[petert17]

Ok, so I checked the hoses best I can, nothing blatantly broken or loose. I swapped the coil packs around even tho they are new and still same cylinders misfiring. p0301, p0302. Everytime I reset it the same two misfires. If a vacuum hose leak wouldnt it cause random misfire? If its the same ones all the time does that pinpoint anything else?

Hi everyone, let me jump on this thread here since I started off with the same problem. I had soaked coils too. So, because I needed my car everyday I bought 4 coil packs and valve cover gasget and plugs from NAPA. I replaced them pretty easily, but came across some broken hoses at the crankcase breather, fixed that the best I could. Initally car ran fine for 10-20 miles then CEL comes on. Now i keep getting p071, p0301, p0302. I researched all sites including this one. More confused now. What next should I try? Thanks in advance. BTW, I have 04 a4 b6 1.8t Q, AMB engine.

[clm6113]

Valve cover gasket change was easy enough. Luckily no parts were broken in the process - minus the hood strut (ouch). Miss-fires still occurred over 15psi. Replaced all 4 coil packs with spares and it runs like new.

[Dan[FN]6262]

Dan, I'm going to respectfully disagree with you here. I've had nothing but success with just replacing the gasket and not removing either camshaft. The gasket is metal and does not leave behind any significant residue. It is actually the half-moon insert that seems to cause the majority of the problem anyway. I do take time to clean the surfaces but just a quick spray down with some brake clean and mirror check is all I've needed to do. But even if you really wanted to remove the CCT entirely to clean it spotless, it certainly does not require removing the timing belt or even moving the exhaust camshaft at all. Only the intake cam need be removed to fully service the CCT. I suppose you could argue "correctly" on that. But practically speaking, nothing more is necessary.

I've done exactly what you said on a couple B6 cars, but on some B5s that I've done headwork on, like my brothers and brettj20's, when I removed the CCT, there was some material left over that needed scraped off. I have yet to see a 01+ MY 1.8T (A4 or GTi) have any gasket material left over though. Maybe the gaskets were a little different on the older ones? I certainly don't know. But any time I have changed the CCT/VVT gasket and half mooon, I always had the head removed from the cars because of other work that I was doing.

[Charles.waite]

Valve cover gasket change was easy enough. Luckily no parts were broken in the process - minus the hood strut (ouch). Miss-fires still occurred over 15psi. Replaced all 4 coil packs with spares and it runs like new.

Wow. Wait someone did a repair and didn't end up breaking other parts! Its like I just saw a unicorn...

[ryanhmusic]

OP don't believe everyone when they say its easy. It SHOULD be easy, but the advanced age of our cars makes the plastic parts attached to the PCV VERY brittle and prone to snapping when you remove them. I found out the hard way. What should have been a quick 1 hour Gasket replacement turned into a few days of hunting down PCV parts and jerry rigging a heater hose for the shitty plastic PCV breather.

heh. going through this now.

[MurkyRivers_A4]

heh. going through this now.

Holy Necro Bump Batman!

[ryanhmusic]

Holy Necro Bump Batman!

I know but I saw chuck and I couldn't resist


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