this is what happens when a timing belt is installed wrong on a 3.0 avk

[s4clone]

i bought this car 2002 b6 a4 with s4 kit on it for $600 dollars from a guy who took this car to a shop who said they could change the timing belt. the car was in the shop for two months they kept giving him the run around they installed the timing belt wrong didnt use the timing belt tools and the broke a valve and now the engine is fubar the pics will explain. im guessing that i will rebuild this motor install some nice rods and pistons try to build a high hp na motor but just thought for now. here are some pics just to show you guys what happens when the timing belt isnt lined up right.



cylinder head totally f*cked


actual hole in piston


actual valve stem laying in the catalytic converter

[downhillracer]

$600? Is that a typo... if not i wouldn't be complaining haha even with a busted motor

[s4clone]

oh im not complaining at all im very happy with the purchase $600 is right

[Johnnada]

what a steal

[AudiA4_20T]

SHIT

[Audi Skate Snow]

damn, not bad at all.

[A4natomical]

thats a steal.

but don't plan on a high revving engine with a stock valvetrain.

[kastro]

what's wit the wheels?.. quattro doesn't like uneven wheels

[got boost.]

$600

wow if i saw that i wouldnt even care if the engine was broken the front bumper is almost worth $600..

[illaudiill]

$600

wow if i saw that i wouldnt even care if the engine was broken the front bumper is almost worth $600..

IM SAYN

[Doc.]

Haha, i dont get the title. You're encouraging people not to do their timing belt?

Nice buy!

[nimski62]

Buy my pes supercharger for 2000 and then ull have a beast.

[Papachristou]

Buy my pes supercharger for 2000 and then ull have a beast.

no doubt perfect buy for him!

[dirtybrd]

That head has been off before. See the copper colored coating on the block in the second pic. Not that it matters, I just noticed it. Good find none the less.

[AudiA4_20T]

That head has been off before. See the copper colored coating on the block in the second pic. Not that it matters, I just noticed it. Good find none the less.

is that copper spray Chris?

[Maverick]

do you know a nice machine shop that will build the motor?? if not, I will talk with you about it.
I suggest you coat the cynlinder walls in addition to piston, and rods.

[s4clone]

yeh thats copper spray the shop he had working on it told him he needed a head gasket but what really happened is they installed the timing belt wrong the first time told the dude he needed head gasket and then installed the timing belt wrong the 2nd time and this happened.

[s4clone]

Haha, i dont get the title. You're encouraging people not to do their timing belt?

Nice buy!

im only encouraging 3.0 owners not to do there timing belts unless the rent the tools to do it because if your one tooth out on the timing your done

[s4clone]

do you know a nice machine shop that will build the motor?? if not, I will talk with you about it.
I suggest you coat the cynlinder walls in addition to piston, and rods.

ill build the motor myself but i have a machine shop that will magniflux the block and ill probably bore the engine a little. if i bore it i will definately be installing new pistons and h beam rods already coated.

[s4clone]

Im new to the audi scene not new to building bad a** engines but new to audi. does anyone know where i can get performance internal engine parts for this car. like pistons rods cranks valves and things of that nature. oh and im looking for a cylinder head as well

[B6JoeS4]

that's what you get for putting an s4 badge and grille on a 3.0

[Maverick]

Im new to the audi scene not new to building bad a** engines but new to audi. does anyone know where i can get performance internal engine parts for this car. like pistons rods cranks valves and things of that nature. oh and im looking for a cylinder head as well

depends on how much power you want to make, you select different brands.

[s4clone]

depends on how much power you want to make, you select different brands.

350 to 400 naturally aspirated

[Maverick]

I suggest JE/Supertech/Mahle/Weisco pistons. pick a brand you like, they are all good picstons.

for rods, Scat rods are good enough, but if you want to go crazy and make a lot of power with this engine you are building, then get Pauter rods.

I forgot the name of the coating that you apply to the cylinder wall which make's the engine very strong to hold a lot of power.

[02silverb6]

Im new to the audi scene not new to building bad a** engines but new to audi. does anyone know where i can get performance internal engine parts for this car. like pistons rods cranks valves and things of that nature. oh and im looking for a cylinder head as well

Eurospec or PM 3.0 King

[02silverb6]

that's what you get for putting an s4 badge and grille on a 3.0

I don't see an s4 badge and whats wrong with putting a s4 grille on an a4?

[onceover]

theres an s4 badge on the grill..

nice buy!

[jriddle11]

Haha, i dont get the title. You're encouraging people not to do their timing belt?

Nice buy!

+1 on not getting the title -

[3.0 King]

nice find. many options to chooz from when thinking of the audi motor line up. depends on what you are trying to do? IMO skip the rebuild and find a complete used motor. that will cost you ball park $5000 not instld.

[B00sted20VUSP]

HaHa, Ive done 2 timing belts on the 3.0 and cam adjusters cuz they used to leak, NEVER seen anything like that. The belt is tricky on that engine, you need a plate that holds the Cams....valve covers off and everthing. Looks like they used the wrong coolant. Not like it matters. Check www.car-part.com thats where i got my 2.8 v6 for a passat i rebuilt. Got it for $800. The 3.0 will be more though. Good Luck!

[B00sted20VUSP]

Actually found one on that site for $2600 right in Georgia. Type in your info and it pops up. Its at LKQ in Savannah. Stock #S82192. Its out of an A6 but all the numbers match. Hope it helps.

[Smitty2A4]

Like everyone said that is such a nice deal, my S4 Rear cost more than that I think!

[B00sted20VUSP]

Def. a killer deal. The Radio in that car is worth more than $600

[dirtybrd]

350 to 400 naturally aspirated

I hope you have very deep pockets. Even then I don't see it.

[dpatel]

I see you are local (GA). For all the other local GA AZiners out there, do you know where shop was that attempted this timing belt job?

[s4clone]

Actually found one on that site for $2600 right in Georgia. Type in your info and it pops up. Its at LKQ in Savannah. Stock #S82192. Its out of an A6 but all the numbers match. Hope it helps.

ive been using car-part for years thatz the first place i looked but for that price ill just pull the motor replace the one piston rod and rings. found a head for 450 ill be in it alot less then 2600 ill be pricing new rings bearings and the one piston and rod on monday. i found that i could get a full set of custom pistons made to spec for 999.00 from wiseco im gonna see how much the engine can be bored and may go that route but not sure as of yet

[s4clone]

I see you are local (GA). For all the other local GA AZiners out there, do you know where shop was that attempted this timing belt job?

yeh the shop was a no name shop in the industrial park off 85 loop rd in riverdale ga he was actually reffered to the shop by a non audi owner and they thought is was like any other t belt job boy were they wrong whats crazy is this was the only import there everything else was american the actual mechanic was trying to tell me that the valve dropped but yet all three cylinders on that side had bent valves

[s4clone]

I hope you have very deep pockets. Even then I don't see it.

deep pockets are for somone who cant do it themselves im not sayin it can be done but im not sayin it cant be done either i dont see 350 as an unrealistic number but ive been wrong before but ill be happy with what i get

[AudiNYC417]

sucks.

[djwimbo]

i bought this car 2002 b6 a4 with s4 kit on it for $600 dollars from a guy who took this car to a shop who said they could change the timing belt. the car was in the shop for two months they kept giving him the run around they installed the timing belt wrong didnt use the timing belt tools and the broke a valve and now the engine is fubar the pics will explain. im guessing that i will rebuild this motor install some nice rods and pistons try to build a high hp na motor but just thought for now. here are some pics just to show you guys what happens when the timing belt isnt lined up right.

welcome to the world of Audi.

I would suggest a different title to your thread though, it's very deceiving. I haven't read all the responses to this thread, but if it hasn't been said yet, you should have said, "Don't go to this shop to get your timing belt replaced. Here's why...". Or at least that would be the civil way of doing it. There's even a part of Audizine dedicated to shop reviews for this purpose.

Many of our members are very proficient at timing belt replacement and haven't had the issues that you have in this case.

Good luck with the repair. Personally, I would part it. $600 in and an "S4 clone" means you could turn some bank.