"Tricolor" My Audi 100 20vt quattro from Norway

[xileh]

I can show you what to get for about 1k USD and its a really nice setup with bilsteins. I'll go into more detail after I get home from work.

That would be very nice. I have startet looking in your thread, and stuff realy looks nice :)

[loxxrider]

Yes. The car will mostly be used on track, so that's why I wanted Mech header. Also I will start using my KKK KX600 and that turbo is a bit late compered to newer ones. And then I will need to rev a bit high :)

I haven't made any bushings yet. But I have almost a spare car. So I will use those parts for measuring. I will talk with my friend that got the equipment, if he will make drawings,or how he does it. I guess I will make alu or something for my subframe, and then use delrin for most of the rest in the car. And 034 motorsport track bushings for engine and gearbox.

I like your goels. A bit similar to me. Start with 600hp in the engine now first. But hope for more later. Will run the car on Ethanol and that gives me more possabilites to get more power easier :)
I will look at your thread. I have seen pictures of your car before, and it look very beatiful:)
I will check out motorgeek.

Yes, info about the coilovers would be great. I have seen on 2bennet. Also a company here in my town build custom bilstein coilovers, but they will cost about 4000USD, and that is guite much I think.

That would be very nice. I have startet looking in your thread, and stuff realy looks nice :)

OK here is a link to everything you should need to know.

http://vw-rings.com/viewtopic.php?f=...15d95f71c07a7a

basically you get bilstein sports from shox.com for ~$520 shipped, then 2.5" coil springs of your choice for anywhere from $60 to $270 depending on if you order custom or get good deals on used ones, then about $180 worth of coilover sleeves, collars, etc. from A1racing.com. Its all outlined in the thread above. The only thing it needs after that is some more suspension travel. I'm working on a new upper strut mount that will take care of that.

Thanks for the compliments on my car. Its much appreciated :) I love the color scheme on your old car. Hope you do something similar with the new one!

I'm going to run pump gas 93 octane for as much power as I can and then maybe switch over to race fuel whenever I really want to make the big power. I don't think I'll be running around with full power all the time. I'd do E85, but there is almost nowhere to get it around here. I definitely want a set of cams with some seriously high lift. I love the sound of a nice, lopey cam. Gives is a mean sound.

Looking forward to seeing more updates here! Keep an eye on my thread because everything is going to start happening very soon.

[xileh]

OK here is a link to everything you should need to know.

http://vw-rings.com/viewtopic.php?f=...15d95f71c07a7a

basically you get bilstein sports from shox.com for ~$520 shipped, then 2.5" coil springs of your choice for anywhere from $60 to $270 depending on if you order custom or get good deals on used ones, then about $180 worth of coilover sleeves, collars, etc. from A1racing.com. Its all outlined in the thread above. The only thing it needs after that is some more suspension travel. I'm working on a new upper strut mount that will take care of that.

Thanks for the compliments on my car. Its much appreciated :) I love the color scheme on your old car. Hope you do something similar with the new one!

I'm going to run pump gas 93 octane for as much power as I can and then maybe switch over to race fuel whenever I really want to make the big power. I don't think I'll be running around with full power all the time. I'd do E85, but there is almost nowhere to get it around here. I definitely want a set of cams with some seriously high lift. I love the sound of a nice, lopey cam. Gives is a mean sound.

Looking forward to seeing more updates here! Keep an eye on my thread because everything is going to start happening very soon.

Thank you for the link.
Guess I will make my own coilovers like you did. But first I have to find a car, and start building. Good to know what weight I end up on before I order springs
How is your suspension setup? I'm going to use my car only on the track, so I want it as stiff and much handling as possible. won't need any comfort

Ain't many places to get E85 here. But there is one gas station close to my work that sells this. Guess I just have to get a big can that I can fill up when I'm going to the track
My cams don't got that high lift, it runs very nice on idle. But they got higher lift than original. Sorry, that I forgot to check what cams I have. But will to this next time I'm at my garage :)

Right now I'm going to call on a Audi V8 that I might buy for to use as body. Reason I want V8 is wider fenders and stiffer Z frame. And I think the V8 is very similar to the typ44.

[loxxrider]

Yes, the V8 actually is a type 44 so anything you do to a V8 besides suspension will carry over to a 200 20v. They are both type 44's.

I love the suspension setup. I have 450 in front and 500 in the rear and its pretty stiff, but the ride is nice because of the bilsteins. If you really want to get crazy with it you could do Koni struts but I don't have a parts list for that. Anything over 500lb springs will require either revalved Bilsteins or some Konis. You can get a used set of Bilsteins and send them to Bilstein to get revalved for something like $80 a piece.

I'd imagine for a track car you might want around 600lb springs. Its hard to say what you'll like though.

[xileh]

Yes, the V8 actually is a type 44 so anything you do to a V8 besides suspension will carry over to a 200 20v. They are both type 44's.

I love the suspension setup. I have 450 in front and 500 in the rear and its pretty stiff, but the ride is nice because of the bilsteins. If you really want to get crazy with it you could do Koni struts but I don't have a parts list for that. Anything over 500lb springs will require either revalved Bilsteins or some Konis. You can get a used set of Bilsteins and send them to Bilstein to get revalved for something like $80 a piece.

I'd imagine for a track car you might want around 600lb springs. Its hard to say what you'll like though.

Thanks for the help. Guess I will aske more when I'm ready to build the coilovers :)

Found some pictures of the car today. Miss it very much :(

[loxxrider]

she was beautiful...I love it

[xileh]

she was beautiful...I love it

Thank you :)

It seems like I won't use a V8 after all. They are much more heavier than the ordinary typ44 due to double floor and stuff like that. So now I have bought a ordinary typ44 Audi 100 with flat fenders. Will pick it up as fast as I have free from work. Much overtime working this month due to holly day.
I will build V8 rear fenders on this car and use the V8 rear bumper, and try with an 20vt 200 front bumper to see how that looks together :)

[xileh]

Not so many updates in this thread. Much canges in my project.

I changed the thread to be about all my cars now.

The "tricolor" will be a avant in stead. Working on that car right now:

Also have an Audi 100 10vt sedan quattro:

And a S2 coupe:

[xileh]

The avant that is going to get a 20vt engine with about 600bhp:






The coffee room in our garage ;)



And the sedan:

[Doctor]

Love and only Love for these old Audis .

[xileh]

Love and only Love for these old Audis .

Agree :)

[xileh]

Bad luck on a trackday some days ago :(

Broke the rear left axle :(

[Doctor]

Shit, how did this happen . . .Due to power, or an accident of some kind ?

[xileh]

Shit, how did this happen . . .Due to power, or an accident of some kind ?

Maybe both power and a bit bad driving.

Got a late turn in to a corner, and hit the clutch to make the car oversteer with the diff in. Then the axle broke:(

Think I got a short clip when this happened. But you don't se it on the video.

[Doctor]

I see. I am sure you will get it sorted and make it stronger for the future. Give us any video available, it is lovely

[xileh]

I see. I am sure you will get it sorted and make it stronger for the future. Give us any video available, it is lovely

I got my hands on a original axle today. But later i might be looking for stronger axles.

My first priority now will be to get the avant finished. Then the s2 will get a makeover i think :)

[Militant-Grunt]

What wheels are those on that Coupe? They look amazing on that car.

[xileh]

What wheels are those on that Coupe? They look amazing on that car.

They are Compomotive MO 5 flatface 8x17 ET15 :)

[xileh]

The S2 is now up and running again. And the 100 avant also runs. Just have to mount the front bakc on the avant, and it is ready for periodic controll :)

[Doctor]

Epic Sexiness . . . I want those wheels so much . .

[xileh]

Just testing the alap recorder app for android.

[xileh]

Slowly, but the avant is almost ready for controll :)

[xileh]

Winter tires on the sedan. Used the S2 wintertires to start with.
Also ordered some serviceparts for the sedan. Timing belt, waterpump and stuff like that :)

[xileh]

The cars are changed in the garage now :)



Will have a small service on the sedan
[ ]Timing belt
[ ]Waterpump/roller
[x]Joints outer front on both sides
[ ]Heater core
[ ]Some sensores
[x]Lowering springs

Lowering spring vs the original in front:

[TipTucker01]

That rain dirfting video was interesting. What was your technique for getting the rear out? Was it throwing the weight with throttle, or some clutch kicks?

[xileh]

That rain dirfting video was interesting. What was your technique for getting the rear out? Was it throwing the weight with throttle, or some clutch kicks?

That was my first time testing the car on wet track, so I my technique was not that good. I used the rear diff on. And sometimes used the clutch a bit, but without to much rev.
The car was not working 100%, so I had trouble getting the rear out with just the throttle. (My mass flow meter was defect)

But lately I found out it is better to use the weight a bit. Not so much wearing on the clutch and axles :)

Now it is time for winter here in Norway. No more track days for untill may :(

But hopfully we get some nice days with driving on Ice :) Don't know if i will use the s2 or 100 tq.

[xileh]

Found some rust on the front struts. so hadd them welded and paintet :) Not very nice, but better than before.





The front struts ready


The rear strut ready



Lowered in front:


Forgot to take picture when the whole car was done. The result is 5cm lower in front, and 3 cm lover rear. Hope the last cm will come when the the springs have been on for some days :)

[xileh]

Some pictures:








Some of my choises for the avant coilovers:

2bennett
Kit with coilovers rear ready to install. And have to build in front. Every part is included. Yellow koni shox. And caster/camber plates in front for good adjustment in wheel angles.
Price is about 2100 usd

kw
Have to send the front struts to them. Regular kw v1 coilovers with tuv papers.
About 1300usd

Quattromanufactur
Have to send the front struts to them.
Coils from eibach or bilstein
Yellow koni shox, shortened 4 cm and with custom damping rate.
About 2200 usd

Build self
Problem is the upper strut mount.
Price will vary, depending on what coils and shox i choose. But I guess the price will be about the same as kw.


What do you think? The car will be used almost only on track.

[loxxrider]

What upper strut mounts do the KW's use

[xileh]

Don't know. But I can try to send them a email and se if they got any pictures :)

[xileh]

What upper strut mounts do the KW's use

all I got from KW is

"Hello Marius, the suspension kit fits with the original top mounts of your car and you don´t need any modification. "

[S4SHOES]

VERY cool cars man, great work

[xileh]

VERY cool cars man, great work

Thank you :)

Two very poor pics from the sedan after lowering. Dark and phone is a very bad combination when taking picture. Will bring my camera and take som pics during the daylight some day soon when I have washed the car.
Still think the car is very high on the rear. Anyone knows why? It is 4cm lower than before lowering, but still very high :o But the car got very much better to drive after lowering. Handles more well, and a bit stiffer :)

Also still got a "knocking" sound when I drive. Have changed the wheel bearing in front, and the outer joints.
Might have a look on the exhaust and axle to se if there is something wrong there.

[xileh]

The car realy needs a wash. Will also get a new spoiler on the front bumper, and a new foglight soon :)

[xileh]

Think I know why the car is so high rear now. I might have wrong shox. The length shown on picture below is about 24cm on my car. But some other shox I have for Audi 100 quattro is 19cm. Don't know what shox I have, but I guess they are wrong?

[xileh]

More snow:


Tried to flip the lower spring seat this weekend, but it was not possible to get it off the damper. No problem to move it, but the damper got some kind of ring where the thicker part of the damper ends, and the spring seat did not fit over this.
Also where going to change the wheel bearing in front, but managed to split the bearing when mounting the hub back into the bearing. Not a very good weekend :roll:

[xileh]

Also test fitted some wheels on the S2. Theese are going to be street wheels, while the compomotive rims will get some toyo r888 or something. Also mounted original brakes in front, to get the winter tires on, and to get to use rally ice wheels for the icetrack drinving later this winter :) The car is raised a bit on the coilovers now, but good to have a high car in the snow :)

You also see the wrong tire size on the comp wheels on this picture, but that is due to offset15 on the comp wheels.

[xileh]

Bought new wheels for the sedan today :)

[xileh]

Finally changed the wheel bearing on right side. And now there is no bad sound on the car :)
Also changed the rear dampers, and finally got the right height









But, bad news. I managed to break one of the bolts on the rear damper. One of the three on top. With the nut number 14 on it.

[xileh]

Got a packet today :)