S4 Euro or US rear bumper?

**godard24p** · 10-13-2004 01:34 PM

major differences between the two? how meticulous is it to get/install the euro version? is it worth the difference in price?
TIA

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 01:59 PM

what ? sedan or avant? the Avant euro is the same as the US sans the absorber. the sedan difference is greater bumper sits closer to the body.

**imajn34** · 10-13-2004 02:18 PM

Ok, I've always avoided understanding this, but I really honestly don't know what the difference. If I order an S4 rear, do I have to specify Euro Spec or U.S or something?

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 02:24 PM

i'll tell you this it's cheaper for you to go w/ the US rear bumper than it is to go w/ the S4 rear. The S4 rear bumper will require the cover/rebar/absorber along w/ other trim pieces.

Also going with a eurospec you'd pay for shipping which is very expensive. I was lucky enough to piggyback on an order w/ SPP w kerscher so i didn't have to pay for shipping

But that's it in a nutshell.

**astris** · 10-13-2004 03:05 PM

Originally posted by foofighter
i'll tell you this it's cheaper for you to go w/ the US rear bumper than it is to go w/ the S4 rear. The S4 rear bumper will require the cover/rebar/absorber along w/ other trim pieces.

Not so sure about this. The Ultrasport bumper is cheaper, but I don't think you need all that stuff for the U.S. spec S4 rear. Well, for a sedan at least. From what I understand all you need for a U.S. spec sedan S4 rear is the bumper cover and the trim. The absorbers have different part numbers, but I believe they are pretty much the same size, just with different rates. I don't think you really need the rebar either. All the hardware is reused too.

Boosteda4 has a U.S. spec S4 rear and I recall him saying he only bought the cover and the trim and it worked.

You need all that other stuff for a Euro spec S4 rear though.

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 03:56 PM

i hope you're right Kris cuz that would suck to have to stop mid way to get the part. But if that's the case than even better!

**astris** · 10-13-2004 04:00 PM

Originally posted by foofighter
i hope you're right Kris cuz that would suck to have to stop mid way to get the part. But if that's the case than even better!

I hope I'm right too. I guess I will find out sometime soon. I can't remember, but I think two people told me thats all I need. If I need more I guess I will be driving around with no bumper waiting for parts.

That damn bumper skin is so expensive though. I didn't even see how much I can get the trim for. I'll look more into it pretty soon.

**AvanTTix** · 10-13-2004 04:06 PM

you don't want to look at how much you can get the trim for... you'll change your mind...

and here's a visual of the difference btw US and Euro Sedan rear bumpers

**astris** · 10-13-2004 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Avantéix
you don't want to look at how much you can get the trim for... you'll change your mind...

So I hear. For the Ultrasport rear, do I need anything besides the bumper cover? Maybe I'll go that route. We'll see.

Thanks for the pics. Now I see the difference.

**AvanTTix** · 10-13-2004 05:52 PM

i *think* you will still need a new bumper trim just b/c the US is also a Euro bumper

**astris** · 10-13-2004 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Avantéix
i *think* you will still need a new bumper trim just b/c the US is also a Euro bumper

Ok, but I don't need the euro spec rebar or anything?

**AvanTTix** · 10-13-2004 07:34 PM

hum... that i wouldn't know... but my guess would be most likely... the bumper skin being shorter, i'd assume the rebar mountings would be needed...

**godard24p** · 10-13-2004 09:10 PM

Originally posted by godard24p
major differences between the two? how meticulous is it to get/install the euro version? is it worth the difference in price?
TIA

sedan.

**godard24p** · 10-13-2004 09:14 PM

perhaps i should stick with the u.s. rear bumper for my sedan. i'm still waiting on a price for the euro. we'll see.

**fongaroos** · 10-13-2004 09:20 PM

how much is a US SPEC S4 rear bumper?

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 09:21 PM

just the skin is close to 500 plus any other misc stuff which can add up

**fongaroos** · 10-13-2004 09:23 PM

WHAT?! this is for the US SPEC S4?!?! i was thinking 500 sounds reasonable for the shortened EURO SPEC S4 rear...

omg...

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 09:26 PM

dude they're about the same price once you figure in shipping for the eurospec

**fongaroos** · 10-13-2004 09:38 PM

wait... if they are the same price for both EURO and US spec... why would anyone get the standard US spec S4 bumper?

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 09:45 PM

here's price comparison for you

Bumper Cover 428.00
Rebar 131.00
Absorber 172.00
Absorber 172.00

Bumper Cover EUR 305,00 $371.00
Rebar EUR 68,50 $82.80
Bracket EUR 22,30 $26.95
Bracket EUR 22,30 $26.95
Misc ? EUR 1,39 $1.68

now factor in shipping

**giago** · 10-13-2004 09:48 PM

Originally posted by Avantéix
you don't want to look at how much you can get the trim for... you'll change your mind...

and here's a visual of the difference btw US and Euro Sedan rear bumpers

I really can't notice any visual difference!
i have US but I will have to get euro.
mmmm it's very $$$

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 09:51 PM

you dont see the difference??? the euro bumper sits closer to the trunk opening...see the difference?

**astris** · 10-13-2004 10:45 PM

Originally posted by foofighter
here's price comparison for you

Bumper Cover 428.00
Rebar 131.00
Absorber 172.00
Absorber 172.00

Bumper Cover EUR 305,00 $371.00
Rebar EUR 68,50 $82.80
Bracket EUR 22,30 $26.95
Bracket EUR 22,30 $26.95
Misc ? EUR 1,39 $1.68

now factor in shipping

Don't forget the trim. Or is that the rebar? I'm hoping (crosses fingers) that I don't need the absorbers for the US spec.

Only $428 for the U.S. bumper cover? That must be for an Avant. With my wholesale account they told me closer to $500. Either that or my local parts department is a bunch of tards (very likely).

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 10:52 PM

oh yah it's 160 for the U.S. trim at least for the avant. And it does fluctuate the price.

your guy is he buying from Audi and reselling to you? that's probably the mark up right there. If you have a bodyshop that you're tight w/ they can order it direct and u pay cash and no sales tax

**astris** · 10-13-2004 10:58 PM

Originally posted by foofighter

your guy is he buying from Audi and reselling to you? that's probably the mark up right there. If you have a bodyshop that you're tight w/ they can order it direct and u pay cash and no sales tax

Nope. Buying directly from a local Audi dealer. I don't pay tax with a wholesale/resale account either.

I'm not positive, but I swear this dealership's prices are higher than others. I think he quoted me around $512 for the cover, but with my account it would be $467? Either way, they must have the wrong part numbers or something. Seems like everything they quote me on is high.

I asked how much for S4 door blades and I think they told me my discount price would be over $400.

I know Peter got them for MUCH cheaper from a dealer.

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 11:05 PM

kris u have to remember there are many levels of discounts from the dealer if you're an employee it's a 6 so if think about it if you're just a level 1 or 2 think how much it really is...

**astris** · 10-13-2004 11:18 PM

Originally posted by foofighter
kris u have to remember there are many levels of discounts from the dealer if you're an employee it's a 6 so if think about it if you're just a level 1 or 2 think how much it really is...

So true. I hadn't really thought about that. Usually most businesses tell me how much of a discount up front, but not the dealership. Usually a business will increase your discount over time if you make lots of purchases or spend a lot of money. I'm sure they see me as a punk kid. They must be giving me around %10 off and thats it.

**foofighter** · 10-13-2004 11:29 PM

the most i've heard a retail place gets like a parts store or bodyshop is 20%

**astris** · 10-13-2004 11:35 PM

^^^ That is correct sir, unless like you said, you are in tight with someone.

Maybe I will just paint my rear for now and get the S4 bumper down the road when I have more money. Funds are going to be a little tight for a while since I'm picking up some parts from an AZ member this weekend.

**MR_JONES** · 10-14-2004 12:50 AM

you know i was thinking of going the euro bumper as i really like the truncated look but after reading A4NCAR (daryll)'s experience and, if i remember correctly, he paid over $1000 USD. and i think he said something about a discount. that made it easy for me to choose a different bumper! i went with the S4 myself (have an A4) but it isnt installed yet. when i do i'll post about mounting if it'll help.

**godard24p** · 10-14-2004 01:57 AM

Originally posted by MR_JONES
you know i was thinking of going the euro bumper as i really like the truncated look but after reading A4NCAR (daryll)'s experience and, if i remember correctly, he paid over $1000 USD. and i think he said something about a discount. that made it easy for me to choose a different bumper! i went with the S4 myself (have an A4) but it isnt installed yet. when i do i'll post about mounting if it'll help.

A4NCAR has a nice setup. his rear bumper just looks sick. i might just go with the U.S. rear bumper because of the int'l shipping charges. let us know when you install your's.

**A4NCAR** · 10-14-2004 06:29 PM

Originally posted by astris
Not so sure about this. The Ultrasport bumper is cheaper, but I don't think you need all that stuff for the U.S. spec S4 rear. Well, for a sedan at least. From what I understand all you need for a U.S. spec sedan S4 rear is the bumper cover and the trim. The absorbers have different part numbers, but I believe they are pretty much the same size, just with different rates. I don't think you really need the rebar either. All the hardware is reused too.

Boosteda4 has a U.S. spec S4 rear and I recall him saying he only bought the cover and the trim and it worked.

You need all that other stuff for a Euro spec S4 rear though.

IIRC from those on AW that did the US S4 rear bumper, it was only the actual bumper skin and the trim piece necessary. Easy enough to confirm with those who did it, or search for it.

The Euro S4 Sedan bumper is more invloved (but there was a few repeated pieces).

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