Tie rod bolt broke..

[Crisqo]

I was changing my Tie-Rods today...
on one side, I over-tightened the top bolt that goes into the TR...and it snapped off..

half the bolt is still stuck inside the new TR...

Is there any way to get it out?
Or do I have to shell out for a new TR??

Thx

[VRsic]

Drill a hole smaller than the diameter of the bolt of course into the stuck part of the bolt. Tap it, screw a new bolt in till its tight. And then unscrew the new bolt, since it's threaded in reverse, it will stay tight while it unscrews the bolt thats stuck. You can rent a tap/die set from most hardware stores, or I think even a Shucks or Auto Zone would have one. Hope that helps.

[RippleChip]

Exactly, you can get those from Canadian tire or Sears to get it out.

[Daft]

VRsic, that way won't work. The bolt he broke is going into the tie rod end and the head broke. If he drills, taps and installed a smaller bolt, he will be threaded the same direction as the broken bolt.

Crisco, you will need a small easy-out bit. Easy-outs are designed to bite into a drilled hole only when you turn in reverse. This will unscrew the bolt. Just be careful when removing the old bolt. The easy out can snap off in there and then you will need a cobalt bit to drill it out.

Here's an example:



http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...id=00952155000

[gerrygarcia11]

I just broke my mine today and i was looking for ways to get it out. Also caould i still drive the car or not. How much would it be to take it somewhere and get it removed.

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[richardodn]

Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing, this is the bolt that screws into the ball section where it attaches to the steering knuckle. The tie rod itself is held in place by a pinch bolt. If that's the case, I wouldn't worry about it. The tie rod is positively retained by the pinch bolt where it passes through the indented part of the shaft. Additionally, the tightened pinch bolt holds it secure. I'm not exactly sure what the purpose of the bolt is anyway. I imagine it's useful in pulling the shaft into the pinch casting. Past that, you got me.

[gerrygarcia11]

I look into it a little more because i need my car to drivable because its ny daily. What i found its the tie rod end bolt.

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[nemick]

As far as I can tell, this bolt is an emergency back up in case the primary clamp bolt fails. I'm far from convinced that it actually does anything to be honest. I haven't broken one off, but I do know that I drove for roughly 100K miles without one in the passenger side without realizing it was gone. As long as the main clamp bolt is tight, I would just drive the thing, but ultimately it's your call.

[gerrygarcia11]

As far as I can tell, this bolt is an emergency back up in case the primary clamp bolt fails. I'm far from convinced that it actually does anything to be honest. I haven't broken one off, but I do know that I drove for roughly 100K miles without one in the passenger side without realizing it was gone. As long as the main clamp bolt is tight, I would just drive the thing, but ultimately it's your call.

Okay thanks man. I was really worried because i thought it was gonna come out while i drive around. I'll eventually get it fixed but i just wanted to make sure it wouldn't come out and be a bigger problem.

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[Jimmy G.]

If you decide to try and back it out make sure you hit it with penetrating liquid.

I've found 50/50 mix of pure acetone and ATF (YES automatic transmission fluid) works wonders.

Light years better than wd40. Good luck!

[Davdraco1]

I broke one when I put new tie rods in. Like he said, I wouldn't worry about it. I drove for 20k miles with it broken. No issues.

[MrSnickelsnizer]

Same here. Broke one installin, because gorilla strength. Have haf zero issues for 15,000mi. Not a big deal.

[Turbo_B5]

Leave it, but I would put some loctite on the clamping bolt.

[redline380]

That bolt actually does nothing. It is there to help the joint seat into the arm. You thread the bolt in to draw the joint upwards. It does not bear any load and will not effect anything if it is broken or left out.

[crazyquik22023]

I just broke my mine today and i was looking for ways to get it out. Also caould i still drive the car or not. How much would it be to take it somewhere and get it removed.

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Same here. Broke one installin, because gorilla strength. Have haf zero issues for 15,000mi. Not a big deal.

I broke one when I put new tie rods in. Like he said, I wouldn't worry about it. I drove for 20k miles with it broken. No issues.

Damn you guys really need to look up torque specs and stop using hulk strength on a 8mm bolt!

[Davdraco1]

It was cold and kinda snowing when I did them. Mid Feb in jersey. I did them quickly and brought the car to get aligned right away. Next time I suppose.

[b5a4erik]

^^^^^^ Og's....

[gerrygarcia11]

I need help my situation got worse here. Idk if i should keep driving it like this or just let it be until i get it fixed

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[nemick]

Is that pinch bolt actually tight??

[gerrygarcia11]

Yea. Should i make it tighter? How do i make it tighter?

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[Davdraco1]

Loosen it and push the tie rid back up, you might have to take the pinch bolt all the way out, there should be a cut out in the tie rod end.

[richardodn]

Loosen it and push the tie rid back up, you might have to take the pinch bolt all the way out, there should be a cut out in the tie rod end.

He shouldn't need to take the pinch bolt out. It wouldn't even be in that far if the bolt wasn't already in the cut. If it were me, I'd replace it now. However if that is inconvenient at this time, I'd follow the rest of your suggestion and make sure it is properly torqued. If it starts to pull out again, then replace it.

[RENOxDECEPTION]

As far as I can tell, this bolt is an emergency back up in case the primary clamp bolt fails. I'm far from convinced that it actually does anything to be honest. I haven't broken one off, but I do know that I drove for roughly 100K miles without one in the passenger side without realizing it was gone. As long as the main clamp bolt is tight, I would just drive the thing, but ultimately it's your call.

That bolt is how they adjust "raised tow" aka "unladen toe" aka "constant toe" I believe they use washers.

Most people say "fuck it" and just torque the hell out of it. I never found a shop that would adjust this.

[Davdraco1]

I alway thought that tie rod should be all the way up, meaning there's only one position. When I did mine there was no gap there. Like other said, inspect to make sure it's in there properly and be safe.

[Turbo_B5]

I alway thought that tie rod should be all the way up, meaning there's only one position. When I did mine there was no gap there. Like other said, inspect to make sure it's in there properly and be safe.

this, Doesnt this pinch bolt have a slit for it in the tie rod? the pic does look like its not seated.

[gerrygarcia11]

Should i try taking it out and then putting it back in and make the pinch bolt tighter.

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[Davdraco1]

I would take the pinch bolt out, put the tire rod up and then reinstall the pinch bolt. I don't think it's even in properly. Did you put the top but in with the tie rid in that position?

[crazyquik22023]

I need help my situation got worse here. Idk if i should keep driving it like this or just let it be until i get it fixed

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Should i try taking it out and then putting it back in and make the pinch bolt tighter.

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That tie rod end is absolutely not seated correctly. I am not sure how you even got the pinch bolt in all the way. I would loosen the pinch bolt, pull the tie rod out, take the pinch bolt out, then install the tie rod end and make sure it is seated properly, you can see the slot in the tie rod end for the bolt to go through, make sure that slot is facing the direction of where the pinch bolt will go through. Once its seated in the spindle, and you are sure the bolt is actually going through the slot in the tie rod end, torque it to 36 ft-lbs, or at least just make it's "snug" if you don't have a torque wrench. After that you should be good to go and you should be safe to drive and the tie rod will not fall out.

[aceicks]

If that bolt wasn't crossthreaded going into the top and only broke from being over tightened I bet a left hand drill bit would grab enough to spin it out. With the head being sheared all the strain on the threads will be releived

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[nemick]

I've looked at the original picture of the broken bolt again. Something doesn't look right there to me. On my car, I'm pretty sure the bolt is a smaller diameter than the one shown. I'm still surprised that the ball joint was able to fall down if the pinch bolt is tight, so I'm wondering if this car actually has the correct tie rod to begin with. Not trying to be a scare monger, but I would get it examined/replaced sooner rather than later