what lowering springs will drop a b7 the most?

[hachirokukid]

Like it says. I just wanted to know what springs would be a simple drop in and be the lowest drop?

[Pure Euro]

Get coils.

[hachirokukid]

thanks for the info...i was just wondering thou..

[ron8818]

Coils...

Or just cut the springs in half.... =D (cheap) and Highly not recommended but if you must, i'd like to see it. =D

[Pure Euro]

I have very little experience with springs in the Audi world, but 99% of the time people get a cupkit (which is a spring-shock combo), they end up wanting the adjustability of a coilover. Might as well do it right the first time.

[hachirokukid]

soooo....nothing...


nothing at all...??

[Pure Euro]

It's 1:40 in the morning in LA on the B7 forum.. what are you expecting haha

[hachirokukid]

sorry i live in hawaii... its only 10:43 lol
i'm planing on installing coil-overs. somthing for under 1000. just wanted to see the options out there. my car is under warrenty and im uber scared to do anything to it and have the factory say they wont fix it.

[B7AudiA4]

LOL Neuspeed Race Spring I suppose if you're just thinking about springs (and a shock combo)

[Pure Euro]

I think there is a whole lot less that would go wrong with a coilover set-up as compared to just springs or a cupkit.

[B7AudiA4]

1)Well... Coilover shocks were made to support the springs correctly.
2) It's adjustable to whatever height you want it to be.
3) It's a great route to go on and you won't regret it.

Only thing is... Sometimes it'll be a bitch to adjust it to the RIGHT height you want it to be.

[Pure Euro]

Both B7Audi and myself both have the Tein Super Street coilovers, and I'm sure he's loving his almost as much as I'm loving mine.

With coilovers, the shock and spring were DESIGNED to be used together... something that no cupkit can claim.

[B7AudiA4]

Done deal.
and also, I'm running an S4 setup. I really do love them!
I will be downgrading to some Stasis Streets because of some more comfort. I don't even drive hard. LOL So yeah. I think Tein did a pretty good job with this setup. Very well made. I just wish they made their front adjustable damping without taking off the suspension too.

[INTEGRATION]

I think there is a whole lot less that would go wrong with a coilover set-up as compared to just springs or a cupkit.

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[gyroscope]

Dropping an A4, or most any car with minimal wheel gap gives you negative camber. It looks great, but really degrades performance when only half of your wheel/tire in making contact with the pavement. I would go with sport springs. $1000 coilovers= You get what you pay for.

[PannikAttk]

With coilovers, the shock and spring were DESIGNED to be used together... something that no cupkit can claim.

Straight from H&R's website....

H&R Comfort Cup-Kits & Sport Cup-Kits

For those that want more than just lowering springs Cup Kits are an ideal solution for aggressive looks and impressive handling at an affordable price. H&R's Cup Kits are specially engineered from the ground up with custom-designed springs and shocks that are developed together to work in perfect harmony.

Now that you're done misinforming the original poster...I'll put in my 0.2

I know people on these forums jock the Tein's because they are cheap and what have you. In the end however, you get what you pay for...something cheap. If you're going to do coils, do it right. Spend some real money and get some H&R's or (insert big name manufacturer here).

I'm in a 2 year lease, so the factory sport shocks with H&R springs is the route I took. The car handles just fine and looks just like it would if I had gone the adjustable coilover route. And honestly, I don't personally have the need or desire to constantly adjust my suspension (I'm sure most of you don't either and buy cheap coils anyways).

Even Tein's website exudes cheapness!... www.tein.com

[redhott06]

neuspeed race springs would be the lowest.. if your just looking for a quick solution. altho EVERYONE will tell you to get coils..its all about how much you want to spend and what your main priorities are, looks over ride or whateverrr..

[B7AudiA4]

Even Tein's website exudes cheapness!... www.tein.com

Tein's been out there for a very long time and they spend just as much time as other big name companies. They're huge in the Japanese industry and supporting the German side.
I don't know what you think is so cheap about Tein. The fact of the matter is, you probably never tried them on your car. Correcto Mundo?

[Pure Euro]

Even Tein's website exudes cheapness!... www.tein.com

I jock on the Tein's because I have them on my car and absolutely love them. My friend with KW V3s also is VERY impressed by both the quality of the suspension and ride quality...

But yeah, I guess I'd much rather pay a company more money so they can have a pretty website...

[a4b7]

i noticed most of the race springs drops the car almost 2 inches.
I just finish dropping my car last night on tein coils also. So far the drop looks good, but it's tooo low for me(follow specs in manual). Still waiting for them to settle even more and probably readjust it.

For the price you pay to get springs and shocks + labor(x2 if you don't get the springs/shocks at one time) , it's almost equivalent to entry level coils.

[Rotond0000]

Can you ( from stock ) just get like H&R sport springs? Do u NEED coils? theyre very expensive

[PannikAttk]

Tein's been out there for a very long time and they spend just as much time as other big name companies. They're huge in the Japanese industry and supporting the German side.
I don't know what you think is so cheap about Tein. The fact of the matter is, you probably never tried them on your car. Correcto Mundo?

Sorry if I hit a soft spot, I know you guys are running them and all...but come on now. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out. I'm willing to bet my one year old would pick the H&R's from just looking at these two examples below.





I understand budget constraints, I've got 2 car payments, 2 properties, a kid, a wife who has gotten into the habit of remodeling everything in the house as of late. So I can't exactly dump $1200 on lowering my car and feel good about it.

Just don't come on here bashing cup kits and misinforming others on how the components aren't designed to work together when it isn't true. The OP deserves an informed opinion, at the very least.

[hachirokukid]

I would be installing them myself. thanks for all the feed back guys.

I most likely be running the Eibach coilovers since they are available through my job. I would get them at cost also.

anyone running them??

[PannikAttk]

Can you ( from stock ) just get like H&R sport springs? Do u NEED coils? theyre very expensive

Do you autocross? Do you feel you have the need to adjust ride height on a constant basis because of varying road conditions? These are some of the reasons you'd want or NEED coils. Most of us just want to eliminate wheel gap and increase performance a little bit.

In my opinion, coils tend to ride too rough and aren't worth the money unless you are going to actually utilize them. They can sometimes they seize up and can't be adjusted anymore, etc. I've seen a lot within the span of 4 moderate to heavily modded VW's and 12 years of tinkering with cars.

With a spring and shock combo, you slap 'em on and forget about them.
You won't be able to brag to your buddies or list "coils"as a mod in your signature...but it's a trade-off you'll have to deal with.

I'd honestly invest in a cup kit before buying cheap coils...but that's just me.

[Pure Euro]

I just think for the money you'd be spending on a cup-kit, I'd want to be able to have my ride-height "perfect". But I'm an elitist, I guess... I spent about a week or so fine-tuning my ride-height and dampening... With a cup-kit, you get what you get no matter how happy you are with the outcome...

My buddy has an A3 that he put Neuspeeds on and he has a little reverse-rake, but too bad for him. It'll just have to stay that way.

[Rotond0000]

i do not do autocross just every day driving in rhode island. we get lots of snow in the winter. hot summers. and some roads are bumpy others are smooth. im ocmpletley stock and im looking for a decent drop thats not too low and a little better handling. so i dont know what to get i dont know anything about that stuff.....can u guys help me out like maybe with links to the perfect setup for my needs. im also on a tight budget. trying not to spend over 1k ( want to get sum new wheels!)

[PannikAttk]

I just think for the money you'd be spending on a cup-kit, I'd want to be able to have my ride-height "perfect". But I'm an elitist, I guess... I spent about a week or so fine-tuning my ride-height and dampening... With a cup-kit, you get what you get no matter how happy you are with the outcome...

My buddy has an A3 that he put Neuspeeds on and he has a little reverse-rake, but too bad for him. It'll just have to stay that way.

Agreed that the adjustability is an advantage with coils...but I've seen a few B7's dropped on Eibach's and H&R's (my own car) and the drop looks perfect. No reverse rake, no forward rake. Just a clean, even drop. Surprisingly smooth ride too. All I need is a stiffer sway to eliminate the body roll and I'll be happy.

I had Neuspeed on my GTI and yes, they tend to sag on the rear for some reason; not exactly desirable. From what I've seen in pictures, it appears to be the same on the A4 (and A3 as you mention).

I'll try and snap some pics of mine this weekend and post 'em up as an example for those of you that might be interested. I paid $229 for the H&R's and $150 for installation. Add an RS4 sway to that and I've got suspension covered for under $500 including labor.

[AudiA4_20T]

dont 1/2 ass suspension

[Rotond0000]

ok so now after reading all this im now wondering what exactly do i need to buy...or should i buy if this is what i want. I want a nice clean not too low but low enuff to look good drop. I dont race on the track but im an agressive everyday driver. im in rhode island and the roads are bumpy here and there and we get lots of snow in the winter and obviously hot summers. i plan on buying a set of VMR 714's after i lower the car which i need to decide on what measurments are and stuff like that. ( if any of you know about those u can let me know too) but besides all that. i would like to know what u all think.

[LAS]

straight answer to the OP's question: Neuspeed Race Springs

since you have s-line/tit package, 1.25" from your oem setup. 2" for oem non-sport suspension.

[speedydragon]

imo coilovers are only useful if you track your car every now and then. I'm looking forward to getting the H&r race spring + bilstein grooved shocks from AWE during this summer. currently I have the neuspeed sport kit, when I first got it it was comfy and had a more aggressive feel, 30k miles later it's getting a bit bumpy and annoying, still very aggressive tho.

[Rotond0000]

sweet what about my question lol

[masterkush]

Do you autocross? Do you feel you have the need to adjust ride height on a constant basis because of varying road conditions? These are some of the reasons you'd want or NEED coils. Most of us just want to eliminate wheel gap and increase performance a little bit.

In my opinion, coils tend to ride too rough and aren't worth the money unless you are going to actually utilize them. They can sometimes they seize up and can't be adjusted anymore, etc. I've seen a lot within the span of 4 moderate to heavily modded VW's and 12 years of tinkering with cars.

With a spring and shock combo, you slap 'em on and forget about them.
You won't be able to brag to your buddies or list "coils"as a mod in your signature...but it's a trade-off you'll have to deal with.

I'd honestly invest in a cup kit before buying cheap coils...but that's just me.

Is that why you didn't get QUATTRO either?

But if my car was FWD too, then I wouldn't get coils either.

Why are you such a hater? LOL

I'd be mad with FWD too! LOL WAHAHAHAHA

[kristokes]

koni yellows are good. seen a few audi's rockin em. stiff and height adjustable springs!

[Sharpointer]

in one of the previous posts someone said Tien coils are stiffer than Stasis Street Sports. Does that mean for spending $1000 Tien makes the most stiff coils out there for around 1000 g's?

[Alex@Creative]

Tein obviously has two options for coil over suspension.

The SS's have adjustable dampning (which basically adjustes the stiffness of the shock) as wheel as - PRICE - Around $1000
The Basics have just adjustable ride height - PRICE - Around $750

Springs wise, many customers choose the H&R Spring setup, or the Cup- Kit (spring and shock)

The teins are a great suspnesion, build quality and fitment is perfect. They are an affordable alternative for a coilover suspension.

is ur car a frontrack or quattro?

please feel free to shoot me a PM for pricing/ availability on the suspensions

[email protected]

[Quattro]

I migth ahve some neuspeed race springs for sale brand new.

[TDI]

FK coilovers

I had them on the B6 and now on my B7
Here's the result and i have plenty of screwwire left,you can put him ON THE STREET!!!wheels are 19'' smidt cc-line 3 piece in 8.5 and 9.5



Greetz from Belgium
Kristof

[hachirokukid]

I really like the fk. Not only do they look great but they drop the car a great amount.

I personal don't track my car (we don't have a track on this island)at all. My wife drive the car also. So I don't want to take from the comfortable ride.

anyone got pics of a b7 s-line with neuspeeds on?

[B7!]

FK coilovers

I had them on the B6 and now on my B7
Here's the result and i have plenty of screwwire left,you can put him ON THE STREET!!!wheels are 19'' smidt cc-line 3 piece in 8.5 and 9.5



Greetz from Belgium
Kristof

hey TDI your car is crazy!! love it!!

do you have a pic of the audi next to yours as it looks like it has some crazy big wheels on there and it looks like it is tucking pretty hard