Is it safe to do a burnout?

**05audi** · 12-02-2006 02:25 PM

I was screwing around today with a buddy of mine in an empty lot near my house. I smoked my tires and afterwards my ABS light popped on, but when I turned my car on and off the light popped off. This was the first time I did it and I was wondering if holding the handbrake does any damage to ABS. I would appreciate a response because this is really fun (and I know its bad for the tires, but I'm getting new wheels soon)

**SeKKeY** · 12-02-2006 02:28 PM

all i know is dont lock your steering wheel

**05audi** · 12-02-2006 02:30 PM

what do you mean, lock my steering wheel

**turbo kraut** · 12-02-2006 02:32 PM

i would not do too many if your car is awd, cause a center diff on that car might not be too cheap

**vinny.dtw** · 12-02-2006 02:32 PM

He means dont turn ur steering wheel all the way in either direction, because that harms your power steering pump

**05audi** · 12-02-2006 02:34 PM

i have a fwd by the way, make any difference

**allen@simplytire** · 12-02-2006 03:17 PM

Just don't do it. It's definately not good for your car.

**1point8teeNW** · 12-02-2006 03:28 PM

what if you do donuts on wet pavement in an AWD Tiptronic? It's soooo fun. Only did it about 3 times, i haven't beat on my car since.

Point being, does wet pavement reduce the chances of damage?

What about snow?

**|Sandman|** · 12-02-2006 03:35 PM

well snow would reduce the damage because the effort the car has to do in order to accomplish a donut in snow is far less then on a normal dry pavement... in dry pavement, altough you can do it for fun, it will harm your car

**AudiA4Style** · 12-02-2006 05:18 PM

Originally posted by AHI
Just don't do it. It's definately not good for your car.

**AudiA4_20T** · 12-02-2006 09:19 PM

No guys he is FWD... Its not a huge deal but its obviously not good... And holding the Ebrake is only messing it up

**A4 TSCHUSS** · 12-02-2006 09:24 PM

Is this bad for my car

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**3.0L AUDI A4** · 12-02-2006 09:29 PM

Originally posted by A4 TSCHUSS
Is this bad for my car

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That is just f*cking stupid.. but HOLY SH!T that A4 has A LOT of power.... Nice doughnut though.

**A4 TSCHUSS** · 12-02-2006 09:31 PM

why is that stupid? and that is my car btw

**TCHUN003** · 12-02-2006 09:40 PM

I think that was the coolest thing in the world. haha I wish I could do that!

**martini** · 12-03-2006 12:07 AM

you dont want to go 100% throttle with full lock on the steering wheel...you will burn out your power steering

ive done it

**Sydeshow MO** · 12-03-2006 12:10 AM

FWD or AWD if you can get your wheels to break traction easily then your not hurting anything at all but your tires.

If it takes some work or traction does not break then your gonna be stressing the hell out of your CV joints, drive shafts, center diff, 3rd member, etc...

**gq9** · 12-03-2006 07:05 AM

Originally posted by AHI
Just don't do it. It's definately not good for your car.

Also not good for your tires, your wallet, etc.

**F16HTON** · 12-03-2006 07:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gIGFY7KgO0

**Sydeshow MO** · 12-03-2006 08:37 AM

Oh lord its the 400HPA4 vs A4 TSCHUSS battle again...

IMO they were both good attempts at "swangin" it. The only thing that caught my attention was the sound of 400HPA4's BOV or whatever hes using to keep that turbo spooled. The on/off throttle sound was just like "yeah im tearin' $hit up".

To both...

**F16HTON** · 12-03-2006 08:49 AM

David's and my car make about the same power, his is a little quicker than mine.

For some crazy reason, my car has always spooled hella quickly and you have to pedal the throttle quite a bit.

The fav thing about my video to me was that is was totally impovised, I flew to California from Germany, drove my car down to Eurocode from Nor*Cal to bring Gerard a few parts that were back ordered from ATP when they did his install kit.

Me, Drew, David and the guys were bullshittting around, it was the first time I had met David, Drew, and Charlie...

Gerard had been in the car with me when I was doing some smoky ass drifting so he knew the tires could break loose, so they pretty much challenged me into doing the donuts...I literally started the car, drove right into the street in front of Eurocode and let it rip...because of the camera angle you cannot see that there were about 5 Audis all lined up in the street, just waiting for me to broadside them...fortunately I was able to pull it off without a hitch.

Fun Times!!

**Monizzle** · 12-03-2006 12:50 PM

Originally posted by AHI
Just don't do it. It's definately not good for your car.

Originally posted by gq9
Also not good for your tires, your wallet, etc.

**Jeff** · 12-03-2006 01:00 PM

Originally posted by 3.0L AUDI A4
That is just f*cking stupid.. but HOLY SH!T that A4 has A LOT of power.... Nice doughnut though.

...it's only stupid to a 3.0 owner who will never experience that.

**Jeff** · 12-03-2006 01:01 PM

All your donuts are weak BTW.

**Papachristou** · 12-03-2006 01:51 PM

If your car has the power and u have the $, go for it!!!!!
my doesnt have the power and i dont have the $ so no doughnuts for me

**gq9** · 12-03-2006 02:19 PM

400HPA4

Your video is just hott. Car is gorgeoousss. I like how you (?) Walk away from it in the end.

**Nathan18T** · 12-03-2006 03:42 PM

wow...those videos looks pretty bad ass. i wonder how it feels like sitting inside a car that is doing donuts.

**NightRider** · 12-03-2006 05:23 PM

damnn those were some badass donuts, very nice! Wish i had that much power...

400HPA4, what exhaust do you have?

**05audi** · 12-03-2006 06:29 PM

It seems as though this thread as turned into being about doughnuts, but I was talking about just a plain, ole' burnout. I did it in my FWD tip and it worked, but my ABS light popped on. Does anyone know why?

**audimeister** · 12-03-2006 07:55 PM

Not entirely sure, but your traction control is run through the abs system. You won't be damaging your abs by doing this. As most have posted, this will tear up stuff on your car, but you can get away with it for a long time.

I used to do big, smokey burnouts with my B5 Passat fwd, but I had to turn off the traction control. Maybe that's why your light popped on? Traction control didn't catch the wheelspin.

**Doss** · 12-04-2006 01:29 PM

You're only going to damage stuff a few ways:

1. A sudden gain in traction (destroys axles, diff, transmission, engine, etc) sends a shock down the driveline.
2. Overrev (most likely will damage the engine).
3. Losing control and smashing something.
4. AWD or RWD using E-brake (will smoke the rear brakes (unless your E-brake uses a seperate caliper... then it will die)).
5. Overheating fluids.
6. Misshift.
7. Vibration causes component failure.

Of course it's wear and tear on your vehicle (especially your tires).

I'll agree with Jeff, those donuts were weak (at least they looked fun).

**Turnfast77** · 12-04-2006 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Sydeshow MO
Oh lord its the 400HPA4 vs A4 TSCHUSS battle again...

IMO they were both good attempts at "swangin" it. The only thing that caught my attention was the sound of 400HPA4's BOV or whatever hes using to keep that turbo spooled. The on/off throttle sound was just like "yeah im tearin' $hit up".

To both...

Any car that can do donuts is cool, but nothing says donut quite like STi...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...41f9bd4827.htm

PS. Don't do burnouts.. IMO.

**adam's rotors** · 12-04-2006 04:49 PM

/\ ****...that just seems like such a strain on the car...you can tell thats all that kid does with that thing...

good driving tho

**F16HTON** · 12-04-2006 05:32 PM

When we were at Fontana Dragway one day, it began raining Charlie and I did some donuts for Feesh to film (unfortunately he did not film them.

My tires were spinning so damn fast my car just sat in one place spinning them and would not even move, as I started to turn when the car went backwards it just kept going backwards as the wheels were spinning...

But then again, anyone can do them on wet ground.

**F16HTON** · 12-04-2006 05:35 PM

Originally posted by 05audi
It seems as though this thread as turned into being about doughnuts, but I was talking about just a plain, ole' burnout. I did it in my FWD tip and it worked, but my ABS light popped on. Does anyone know why?

I know eacatly why... your front tires were spinning as the emergency brake was on...this is what happens in a VAG car, there is nothing wrong with your car, it is just the reaction to the sensors on the wheels input.

When you get a smog test or dyno a FWD car, this is the temporary end result.

**roarincheetah** · 12-04-2006 05:36 PM

Originally posted by 400HPA4
But then again, anyone can do them on wet ground.

Yea, but 400hp helps

**NightRider** · 12-04-2006 08:50 PM

damn thats some good ****ing driving. He definitely knows what hes doing. I loved the control on the drift around that 180 degree corner, so sick

**Doss** · 12-04-2006 09:57 PM

Originally posted by NightRider
damn thats some good ****ing driving. He definitely knows what hes doing. I loved the control on the drift around that 180 degree corner, so sick

You're kidding right?!

Look at his hands in the video. They are all over the place. Good drivers don't look like they're at a rave when driving.

**F16HTON** · 12-04-2006 10:00 PM

Correct, 10 and 2 with light hands just like the grip on a golf club...only taking the hands off the wheel to shift, then promptly replacing them, never going hand over hand.