prosier
01-30-2019, 02:01 AM
Hi,
For 2 weeks I have a new Hex-V2 and plying around [cool] Idea was to investigate why I had misfires. Last months, I noticed light shocking engine during driving the first 1-2minutes in the cold morning. Only with dsg in 1st gear and between 1500-2000 rpm. Sometimes it takes effort to get the engine to do this, and when I keep going and hold the throttle steady, sometimes CEL goes on. However, also without CEL, I know when I read DTC I see misfires. And I was right[;)]
Skoda Octavia (I hope I am welcome with this VAG car [>_<] )1.4TSI CHPA 2014 140 pk/bhp & 250Nm
Engine+DSG7 tuned in September 2018, 190bhp & 340Nm
Address 01: Engine Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.CLB
Control Module Part Number: 04E 906 016 G HW: 04E 907 309 A
Component and/or Version: 1,4l R4 TSI X08 5761
4 Faults Found:
10203 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 00 [039] - -
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 131397 km
Date: 2019.01.30
Time: 07:35:40
Engine speed: 1925.50 /min
Normed load value: 14.9 %
Vehicle speed: 13 km/h
Coolant temperature: 11 °C
Intake air temperature: 2 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.536 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Oxygen sensor bank 1 sensor 1: specified value: 0.9688
Oxygen sensor 2 bank 1 internal resistance limit value: 131068 Ohm
Long-term fuel trim bank 1 at idle: -0.09 %
10591 - Cylinder 1
P0301 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 131397 km
Date: 2019.01.30
Time: 07:35:51
Engine speed: 1956.50 /min
Normed load value: 14.1 %
Vehicle speed: 13 km/h
Coolant temperature: 15 °C
Intake air temperature: 2 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.583 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Misfire recognition reference moment: 11.469 %
Misfire sum counter: 205
Counter: implaus. short-term adapt. values: misfire detection: 0
10593 - Cylinder 3
P0303 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 131397 km
Date: 2019.01.30
Time: 07:35:51
Engine speed: 1956.50 /min
Normed load value: 14.1 %
Vehicle speed: 13 km/h
Coolant temperature: 15 °C
Intake air temperature: 2 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.583 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Misfire recognition reference moment: 11.469 %
Misfire sum counter: 205
Counter: implaus. short-term adapt. values: misfire detection: 0
10592 - Cylinder 2
P0302 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 131397 km
Date: 2019.01.30
Time: 07:35:51
Engine speed: 1956.50 /min
Normed load value: 14.1 %
Vehicle speed: 13 km/h
Coolant temperature: 15 °C
Intake air temperature: 2 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.583 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Misfire recognition reference moment: 11.469 %
Misfire sum counter: 205
Counter: implaus. short-term adapt. values: misfire detection: 0
Readiness: 0000 0000
Misfires occur on cylinders 1,2,3,4. It is possible the misfires occurred also before the tuning, I could not test/have not noticed this. It started during cold weather. The tuner said; first put new sparkplugs & ignition coils + fuel with RON 98. So, I replaced these plugs&coils (all BERU) in December 2018. Not solved. I am fueling octane/RON 95. Yesterday I changed to RON 98. I report back if this results in less misfires.
Logs with vcds (sorry if not all the measurements are useful). I only have adv.meas and I have no:
RFP_AV (bypass valve %)
IGA_AD_KNK[5] (in degrees; knock detection/timing pulled on cylinder)
I think these have different names in my engine/vcds:
Bypass valve f high press turboch turbine inlet: actual value
Test of knock sensors: short trip result-Test_Program_Channel 165 (not sure)
Performance log run in gear3 dsg-manual (I forgot Turbo-sampling):
https://log.malonetuning.com/chart/246394#H8KLCADDiMKpUFwCA03CjcOBDsKCMBBEw79lw4%2FCu 8KJKMO4M00PFTbCpUltw4l2McOAw5drSzQeZ8OewrzCjDEww6b DpyMkJi95XQrDoMOFYi1jwpZww7AnInhOLE4ZTsKSXixKwpppI 8K3woVqwpzCjsKbJsOafxVIw7DCszbCpcKww74Bc8OFG8O2OMO gw50idG3DoFbDjWXCiUErw6%2FDunbCs8KPwpHCv8KOwrVvw5B AL1bCqAAAAA%3D%3D
(click Graph – Cycle bottom axis; to get Time instead of RPM). This one to be sure turbo, air, boost etc. are not suspicious.) Does this one looks OK?
Log of a normal trip with count of misfires. Note on cyl 2 and 3 there are the most:
https://log.malonetuning.com/chart/246402#H8KLCADDjMK%2BUFwCA2XCjsORCsKDMAxFw78lw48pw 6jDpsK2wo%2FCkT5kNsOUwoJawolRdF%2FCv1ZxCHvDjMK5w7d wU8OXIMOcw4fChcKNI8KlwokVwrDDhMOCw6I%2Fwq4Ow5zDhMO %2BHQY2XsOiPE5ww4IuSsO4cDoRPA8swqQMRzIsLGo0wprDlcO QGsKycTjDpMKcw5l%2BCCTDuFZ3JcKtXcKCwrpID8Odw7DCnsO 2H8O4wrQIw6VewqJZw6M0dkFzwqfCrMO2wqnCrcOpw7jDtDJow oPCu8O8X8OgC1VmwrbDtgtfcQTDl8O0AAAA
Log of a normal trip with:
Coolant temperature
Median injection timing
Exhaust temperature 1 bank 1
Fuel high pressure: actual value
Ignition timing adjustment cylinder 1
Correction factor injector cylinder 1-2-3
https://log.malonetuning.com/chart/246414#H8KLCADDqEtRXAIDTcONw50Kw4IwDAXDoHfDiXUKFsO Fwp9nKcK9wqhbwqjCgcOawow2wpPDjcKnd8OtUMK8w4w5w6cjw 47DgSDDjztnMsKxw4g8VcOAwoPDhxYmKcO8wqbDrUTCiMKUwqk EJcOYwpvDvMKiwqJGw4UsJizDnMOEbsOCOMKaw7UXQcOhw7jDk E4qw6lfw6EsHsOxwowXwrzDog3DrSbDgcO2VcKYVcOqwpRYw5v DiMKew7rCr3VIw7TChcOefwBRw5cdwprCrQAAAA%3D%3D
Maybe somebody can help solving the misfire issue. If RON 98 fuel will not help, the second step is walnut cleaning the intake and valves. With a mini camera I noticed light carbon buildup. Some say this can also be the reason. Airfilter, oil+filter is renewed last week.
If I need to make more/other logs/vcds readings, let me know!
Br,
Philippe
The Netherlands
For 2 weeks I have a new Hex-V2 and plying around [cool] Idea was to investigate why I had misfires. Last months, I noticed light shocking engine during driving the first 1-2minutes in the cold morning. Only with dsg in 1st gear and between 1500-2000 rpm. Sometimes it takes effort to get the engine to do this, and when I keep going and hold the throttle steady, sometimes CEL goes on. However, also without CEL, I know when I read DTC I see misfires. And I was right[;)]
Skoda Octavia (I hope I am welcome with this VAG car [>_<] )1.4TSI CHPA 2014 140 pk/bhp & 250Nm
Engine+DSG7 tuned in September 2018, 190bhp & 340Nm
Address 01: Engine Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.CLB
Control Module Part Number: 04E 906 016 G HW: 04E 907 309 A
Component and/or Version: 1,4l R4 TSI X08 5761
4 Faults Found:
10203 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 00 [039] - -
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 131397 km
Date: 2019.01.30
Time: 07:35:40
Engine speed: 1925.50 /min
Normed load value: 14.9 %
Vehicle speed: 13 km/h
Coolant temperature: 11 °C
Intake air temperature: 2 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.536 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Oxygen sensor bank 1 sensor 1: specified value: 0.9688
Oxygen sensor 2 bank 1 internal resistance limit value: 131068 Ohm
Long-term fuel trim bank 1 at idle: -0.09 %
10591 - Cylinder 1
P0301 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 131397 km
Date: 2019.01.30
Time: 07:35:51
Engine speed: 1956.50 /min
Normed load value: 14.1 %
Vehicle speed: 13 km/h
Coolant temperature: 15 °C
Intake air temperature: 2 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.583 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Misfire recognition reference moment: 11.469 %
Misfire sum counter: 205
Counter: implaus. short-term adapt. values: misfire detection: 0
10593 - Cylinder 3
P0303 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 131397 km
Date: 2019.01.30
Time: 07:35:51
Engine speed: 1956.50 /min
Normed load value: 14.1 %
Vehicle speed: 13 km/h
Coolant temperature: 15 °C
Intake air temperature: 2 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.583 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Misfire recognition reference moment: 11.469 %
Misfire sum counter: 205
Counter: implaus. short-term adapt. values: misfire detection: 0
10592 - Cylinder 2
P0302 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 131397 km
Date: 2019.01.30
Time: 07:35:51
Engine speed: 1956.50 /min
Normed load value: 14.1 %
Vehicle speed: 13 km/h
Coolant temperature: 15 °C
Intake air temperature: 2 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.583 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Misfire recognition reference moment: 11.469 %
Misfire sum counter: 205
Counter: implaus. short-term adapt. values: misfire detection: 0
Readiness: 0000 0000
Misfires occur on cylinders 1,2,3,4. It is possible the misfires occurred also before the tuning, I could not test/have not noticed this. It started during cold weather. The tuner said; first put new sparkplugs & ignition coils + fuel with RON 98. So, I replaced these plugs&coils (all BERU) in December 2018. Not solved. I am fueling octane/RON 95. Yesterday I changed to RON 98. I report back if this results in less misfires.
Logs with vcds (sorry if not all the measurements are useful). I only have adv.meas and I have no:
RFP_AV (bypass valve %)
IGA_AD_KNK[5] (in degrees; knock detection/timing pulled on cylinder)
I think these have different names in my engine/vcds:
Bypass valve f high press turboch turbine inlet: actual value
Test of knock sensors: short trip result-Test_Program_Channel 165 (not sure)
Performance log run in gear3 dsg-manual (I forgot Turbo-sampling):
https://log.malonetuning.com/chart/246394#H8KLCADDiMKpUFwCA03CjcOBDsKCMBBEw79lw4%2FCu 8KJKMO4M00PFTbCpUltw4l2McOAw5drSzQeZ8OewrzCjDEww6b DpyMkJi95XQrDoMOFYi1jwpZww7AnInhOLE4ZTsKSXixKwpppI 8K3woVqwpzCjsKbJsOafxVIw7DCszbCpcKww74Bc8OFG8O2OMO gw50idG3DoFbDjWXCiUErw6%2FDunbCs8KPwpHCv8KOwrVvw5B AL1bCqAAAAA%3D%3D
(click Graph – Cycle bottom axis; to get Time instead of RPM). This one to be sure turbo, air, boost etc. are not suspicious.) Does this one looks OK?
Log of a normal trip with count of misfires. Note on cyl 2 and 3 there are the most:
https://log.malonetuning.com/chart/246402#H8KLCADDjMK%2BUFwCA2XCjsORCsKDMAxFw78lw48pw 6jDpsK2wo%2FCkT5kNsOUwoJawolRdF%2FCv1ZxCHvDjMK5w7d wU8OXIMOcw4fChcKNI8KlwokVwrDDhMOCw6I%2Fwq4Ow5zDhMO %2BHQY2XsOiPE5ww4IuSsO4cDoRPA8swqQMRzIsLGo0wprDlcO QGsKycTjDpMKcw5l%2BCCTDuFZ3JcKtXcKCwrpID8Odw7DCnsO 2H8O4wrQIw6VewqJZw6M0dkFzwqfCrMO2wqnCrcOpw7jDtDJow oPCu8O8X8OgC1VmwrbDtgtfcQTDl8O0AAAA
Log of a normal trip with:
Coolant temperature
Median injection timing
Exhaust temperature 1 bank 1
Fuel high pressure: actual value
Ignition timing adjustment cylinder 1
Correction factor injector cylinder 1-2-3
https://log.malonetuning.com/chart/246414#H8KLCADDqEtRXAIDTcONw50Kw4IwDAXDoHfDiXUKFsO Fwp9nKcK9wqhbwqjCgcOawow2wpPDjcKnd8OtUMK8w4w5w6cjw 47DgSDDjztnMsKxw4g8VcOAwoPDhxYmKcO8wqbDrUTCiMKUwqk EJcOYwpvDvMKiwqJGw4UsJizDnMOEbsOCOMKaw7UXQcOhw7jDk E4qw6lfw6EsHsOxwowXwrzDog3DrSbDgcO2VcKYVcOqwpRYw5v DiMKew7rCr3VIw7TChcOefwBRw5cdwprCrQAAAA%3D%3D
Maybe somebody can help solving the misfire issue. If RON 98 fuel will not help, the second step is walnut cleaning the intake and valves. With a mini camera I noticed light carbon buildup. Some say this can also be the reason. Airfilter, oil+filter is renewed last week.
If I need to make more/other logs/vcds readings, let me know!
Br,
Philippe
The Netherlands