Stage 1 fun; Stage 2 time!

[Lusky]

Stage 1 has been a blast now it’s time for me to move to Stage 2+ [emoji16][emoji469]

https://www.facebook.com/customcode/posts/1605504572804980

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[BaltimoreCaesar]

Thanks for sharing! Can't find a link to the product page though

[Lusky]

Also I was told this:

“It is being explored. There will either be multiple files you can install yourself for different ranges like e20-e30, e30-e40, etc or we will be able to integrate full Flex Fuel. We are confident full Flex is possible but until we are nearer further R&D results, we don't want to mislead you just in case.”


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[gaspam]

nice!

[J_3_f_f]

Thanks for sharing! Can't find a link to the product page though

http://www.irozmotorsport.com/custom-code-original-turbo-tuning-suite-and-kits/

It would be nice to actually see some dynos for all the available options. Also, is this flashable from laptop at home like Uni??


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[NYEuroTuner]

http://www.irozmotorsport.com/custom-code-original-turbo-tuning-suite-and-kits/

It would be nice to actually see some dynos for all the available options. Also, is this flashable from laptop at home like Uni??


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Yea, hank sells a flashing tool and you can return the car to stock or switch between all the tunes that come with.

[Nard_Dog_RS3]

Yea, hank sells a flashing tool and you can return the car to stock or switch between all the tunes that come with.

So just to clarify, will there be a stage 1 flash without any hardware modifications??? When I tuned my Golf R I liked seeing the progression of power as I upgraded through the stages.

[shivaswrath]

So installed you are about $4500...and get a 10second 4 door sedan.

🤤🤤[emoji15]

This has to be the best tuning platform our right now.

[J_3_f_f]

Based on couple folks' brief review, I am sure this is an amazing kit.

I just wish they do a better job of marketing (maybe learn from APR :P) and better explanation of what we are purchasing haha. What are the gains for each stage/fuel grade are we talking about? What testing/data available that intercooler is superior to stock (not doubting it is but data please)? Do flash suite come w/ instruction and what computer requirement do we have (mac compatible or?)?

[S3DUDE]

So who created the files(software)? Custom code or Iroz? This is the first time I heard about Custom Code. Either way, it seems very appealing to the buyer because not only the power that you get but also the price and combination of maps[up]

[brad65ford]

Based on couple folks' brief review, I am sure this is an amazing kit.

I just wish they do a better job of marketing (maybe learn from APR :P) and better explanation of what we are purchasing haha. What are the gains for each stage/fuel grade are we talking about? What testing/data available that intercooler is superior to stock (not doubting it is but data please)? Do flash suite come w/ instruction and what computer requirement do we have (mac compatible or?)?


yes this they are lacking, honest they are so focused on the product they seem to forget this part or just not concerned. Anyway more fuel to the fire [;)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxfgjow9Nn4

[jl87]

So who created the files(software)? Custom code or Iroz? This is the first time I heard about Custom Code. Either way, it seems very appealing to the buyer because not only the power that you get but also the price and combination of maps[up]

Custom Code (CC) wrote the software for IROZ for the newest TTRS and RS3. United Motorsport (UM) used to do the software but the switch to CC is a new one.

[Jadar]

yes this they are lacking, honest they are so focused on the product they seem to forget this part or just not concerned. Anyway more fuel to the fire [;)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxfgjow9Nn4

I can’t stop watching the video! So sick just a flash and the car is knocking on 10’s! So bad ass.


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[S3DUDE]

Custom Code (CC) wrote the software for IROZ for the newest TTRS and RS3. United Motorsport (UM) used to do the software but the switch to CC is a new one.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought that I saw the name United Motorsport all over when Iroz was working on the TT-RS.

[s316]

can u tell us how many psi for stg 2+ on pump 93? and post the dynosheet

[S3DUDE]

So installed you are about $4500...and get a 10second 4 door sedan.

🤤🤤[emoji15]

This has to be the best tuning platform our right now.

Nice platform for sure

[Lusky]

Here is my 10.7 Pass Custom Code Stage 1 and Iroz Downpipe

2018 TTRS; lighter seats, wheels & tires

https://youtu.be/SXe7w2hNYBU

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[s316]

Here is my 10.7 Pass Custom Code Stage 1 and Iroz Downpipe

2018 TTRS; lighter seats, wheels & tires

https://youtu.be/SXe7w2hNYBU

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impressive, when u will test stg 2+

[S3DUDE]

That 1.629 sec 60ft is as good as is going to get unless you put slicks (just my opinion). I think the Intercooler will give you an additional 2 or maybe 3 MPH trap speed (hopefully)

[OE2]

There's no question that downpipe and tune is amazing. was this on 91oct? I am not sure what Vegas has for gas.

[Lusky]

That 1.629 sec 60ft is as good as is going to get unless you put slicks (just my opinion). I think the Intercooler will give you an additional 2 or maybe 3 MPH trap speed (hopefully)

I think I can 60’ better; once I have Intercooler and Stage 2 Tuning I will launch in front of the water box before lining up. Right now the car is heat soaked before the end of the pass on stock Intercooler


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[Lusky]

There's no question that downpipe and tune is amazing. was this on 91oct? I am not sure what Vegas has for gas.

Mixed to get to 93; Vegas does not have 93 at the pumps


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[S3DUDE]

I think I can 60’ better; once I have Intercooler and Stage 2 Tuning I will launch in front of the water box before lining up. Right now the car is heat soaked before the end of the pass on stock Intercooler


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I thought that you already had the stage II tune? I mean, your car has been the guinea pig/pioneer platform for IROZ. So what exact set up were you running on that 10.7@127mph pass?

[PeteJ]

Here is my 10.7 Pass Custom Code Stage 1 and Iroz Downpipe

2018 TTRS; lighter seats, wheels & tires


How much weight did you save with the seats and wheels/tires. Yesterday I took my car out and ran one pass with a passenger the second without so I dropped about 200 pounds. Just the weight difference was worth .17 seconds in the 1/4 mile.

[Michigan_Rings]

I thought that you already had the stage II tune? I mean, your car has been the guinea pig/pioneer platform for IROZ. So what exact set up were you running on that 10.7@127mph pass?

Says it in his post above: Here is my 10.7 Pass Custom Code Stage 1 and Iroz Downpipe

[:D]

[Lusky]

I thought that you already had the stage II tune? I mean, your car has been the guinea pig/pioneer platform for IROZ. So what exact set up were you running on that 10.7@127mph pass?

We tried Stage 2’tune but with stock Intercooler it couldn’t make the power; heat soaked quickly and pulled timing. My car was scanned for Intercooler development but it’s not finished yet.

The pass was Custom Code Stage 1 Tune amd Iroz DP


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[Lusky]

How much weight did you save with the seats and wheels/tires. Yesterday I took my car out and ran one pass with a passenger the second without so I dropped about 200 pounds. Just the weight difference was worth .17 seconds in the 1/4 mile.

Car weighed 3,330 stock full weight of car and full tank of fuel. Car weighs 3,140 with these reductions and 1/4 tank for the race. I weigh 195-200lbs. I also have the top part of the back seat removed. Leather / Alcantara Diamond Stitch with Headrest Logo Cushions getting made so that might add a few pounds but match the interior perfectly. Wheels are TSW Interlagos 18x9.5 et53 275/35-18 RE-71R. Braille i35X 11.5 lb Li battery on the way.

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[BaltimoreCaesar]

What's the blue button for? Oh, and those seats look super comfortable... They looks awfully expensive

[Lusky]

What's the blue button for? Oh, and those seats look super comfortable... They looks awfully expensive

Seats are amazing and not as aggressive as most race seats so easier to get in and out. Will be even nicer once the cushions I detailed in earlier post are done.

“Blue button” what you are seeing is an Arkon phone mount arm that mounts to the base seat bolt


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[TeKiZeRo]

yes this they are lacking, honest they are so focused on the product they seem to forget this part or just not concerned. Anyway more fuel to the fire [;)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxfgjow9Nn4

Do you know if this was on 93 octane?

[jiannu]

So installed you are about $4500...and get a 10second 4 door sedan.

🤤🤤[emoji15]

This has to be the best tuning platform our right now.

That's a hell of a lot of $$$$!!!!

This video was just released this morning....


Development continues! Great results so far. Stage 1, Stock hardware. [email protected] MPH.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1x-LbrP4Dg

More details to follow.

You guys have options now and I am pretty sure this won't cost near that $4500 mark.

[Lusky]

That's a hell of a lot of $$$$!!!!

This video was just released this morning....



You guys have options now and I am pretty sure this won't cost near that $4500 mark.

You actually think any company will give you Down Pipe, Secondary Deletes, Intercooler, and Tuning for “this won’t cost near that $4,500 mark.”?

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[Lusky]

Sorry double post deleted

[gaspam]

You actually think any company will give you Down Pipe, Secondary Deletes, Intercooler, and Tuning for “this won’t cost near that $4,500 mark.”?

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i think what he meant was the tune from apr ,that ran 10.5 in the vid he posted , shouldnt cost 4500 for just a tune

[jiannu]

i think what he meant was the tune from apr ,that ran 10.5 in the vid he posted , shouldnt cost 4500 for just a tune

+1

[spawn350]

What's the difference between Stage 2 and Stage 2+ (from a hardware perspective)?

[speeddemon69]

What's the difference between Stage 2 and Stage 2+ (from a hardware perspective)?

91 oct to 93 oct


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[spawn350]

91 oct to 93 oct


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I don't think that's correct. They have a Stage 2 for 93 Oct and a Stage 2+ for 93 Oct (see original posting).

[speeddemon69]

I don't think that's correct. They have a Stage 2 for 93 Oct and a Stage 2+ for 93 Oct (see original posting).

It's like that for stage 1. I don't see why it would change for stage 2.


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[TeKiZeRo]

I don't think that's correct. They have a Stage 2 for 93 Oct and a Stage 2+ for 93 Oct (see original posting).

I've been wondering that too. My assumption is the "+" is a little more aggressive with the same hardware.

[Lusky]

i think what he meant was the tune from apr ,that ran 10.5 in the vid he posted , shouldnt cost 4500 for just a tune

That run is not tune only just do some math or use drag times to see what it takes to go 10.5


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[gaspam]

That run is not tune only just do some math or use drag times to see what it takes to go 10.5


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general rule of thumb is On a 10-second car, about 15 whp = 1 mph gained in 1/4.... so the unitronic rs3 ran 124 and the apr ran 127 so tells me the apr tune is running about 45 whp more than the unitronic.... totally plausible hp gain going from 93oct to race gas tune... so my guess is the results from apr are results of their race gas tune file

[Lusky]

general rule of thumb is On a 10-second car, about 15 whp = 1 mph gained in 1/4.... so the unitronic rs3 ran 124 and the apr ran 127 so tells me the apr tune is running about 45 whp more than the unitronic.... totally plausible hp gain going from 93oct to race gas tune... so my guess is the results from apr are results of their race gas tune file

The Uni car weighs 250lbs less


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[lalalaprise]

The Uni car weighs 250lbs less


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Yup... which makes APRs run even more suspicious (more so curious) hah

[speeddemon69]

E85 maybe? Since it's got dual fueling


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[gaspam]

The Uni car weighs 250lbs less


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[spawn350]

It's like that for stage 1. I don't see why it would change for stage 2.


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You are thinking about Unitronic, not IROZ/CC.

[speeddemon69]

You are thinking about Unitronic, not IROZ/CC.

Oh sorry i thought you were talking about unitronic lol


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[lalalaprise]

. I'm not talking about unis TTRS I'm talking about uni RS3 ... they had it of those trap 124 which is only 3 mph difference in the APR rs3 .... same cars , same weight , 3 mph difference trap
Uni ran an RS3?? News to me. I'm pretty sure their times are on their TTRS

[spawn350]

E85 maybe? Since it's got dual fueling


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E85 is what I was told they were using by my tuner who called them.

[gaspam]

Uni ran an RS3?? News to me. I'm pretty sure their times are on their TTRS they ran both go look at their thread. There TTRS ran 10.9 and there RS3 11.1 at 124

[lalalaprise]

they ran both go look at their thread. There TTRS ran 10.9 and there RS3 11.1 at 124

Yea, sorry. Got mixed up.

[Rocketsauce16]

That's a hell of a lot of $$$$!!!!

This video was just released this morning....



You guys have options now and I am pretty sure this won't cost near that $4500 mark.

Smoke and mirrors, has any APR tune “1/4 mile” times they’ve posted been matched by your avg customer.
The dyno‘s and time slips will pour in but having a CC/Iroz tune is going to be like having a DAZ tuned RS3.
Also I believe Iroz will be trying to put a dealer network together to help out. Lusky any confirmation on this?


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[Lusky]

Smoke and mirrors, has any APR tune “1/4 mile” times they’ve posted been matched by your avg customer.
The dyno‘s and time slips will pour in but having a CC/Iroz tune is going to be like having a DAZ tuned RS3.
Also I believe Iroz will be trying to put a dealer network together to help out. Lusky any confirmation on this?


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You can buy it from Iroz now. Flash yourself, multiple files, free updates, package discounts, etc. I am doing Stage 2 this week.

http://www.irozmotorsport.com/custom-code-original-turbo-tuning-suite-and-kits/


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[Chris Morales]

Smoke and mirrors, has any APR tune “1/4 mile” times they’ve posted been matched by your avg customer.

Uhhh...yeah. I'd more be looking for examples where they haven't been matched. Of course, you have to run near sea level as they do in their test videos.

[Rocketsauce16]

Uhhh...yeah. I'd more be looking for examples where they haven't been matched. Of course, you have to run near sea level as they do in their test videos.

Stage 2 Mk7 Golf R’s
Rob and Danielle Roth 12.24

Alec Villar and Tennis Quest 11.96


Jnuachy’s Stage 2 S3 on bags ran 12.2, probably the best of the 3 considering air ride.

All happened at 0- (-1100)DA’s in Houston Texas at Royal Purple known for putting down fast times and where TX2k happens where many world records are set.

For comparison my Stage 2 ED S3 ran an 11.96 in 1500 DA 90 degrees and threw a misfire code.



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[Chris Morales]

Yeah, I live in Houston and run at Royal Purple. I ran within .02 of APR's posted times for my platform. The 4.0T crowd does really well relative to APR's figures.


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[J_3_f_f]

You can buy it from Iroz now. Flash yourself, multiple files, free updates, package discounts, etc. I am doing Stage 2 this week.

http://www.irozmotorsport.com/custom-code-original-turbo-tuning-suite-and-kits/


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Any inside info about whether IROZ planning to have hiflow cat dp instead of catless???


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[OE2]

How much extra is a "custom" map from iroz/custom code?

[Rocketsauce16]

Any inside info about whether IROZ planning to have hiflow cat dp instead of catless???


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Hank doesn’t believe in cats and it’s pretty tame bc you still have the resonators and mufflers.


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[Rocketsauce16]

Yeah, I live in Houston and run at Royal Purple. I ran within .02 of APR's posted times for my platform. The 4.0T crowd does really well relative to APR's figures.


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Yea I had the fastest B8 S4 on 93 octane running APR but I had GIAC’s TCU which was flawless. You in Audi Club of Houston?


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[Chris Morales]

No - I wasn't aware of that club. But I probably wouldn't be a good member since I'm so antisocial and busy at work.


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[Rocketsauce16]

No - I wasn't aware of that club. But I probably wouldn't be a good member since I'm so antisocial and busy at work.


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Haha me too! I’m in Conroe I make it for some of the bigger events but that’s about it. Highly recommend the Spring Drive.


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[J_3_f_f]

Hank doesn’t believe in cats and it’s pretty tame bc you still have the resonators and mufflers.


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It is more of the smell I am worried about. :(


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[Lusky]

Dropping off my 2018 TTRS at Iroz Motorsport for Stage 2+ and this pulls up

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[J_3_f_f]

Dropping off my 2018 TTRS at Iroz Motorsport for Stage 2+ and this pulls up

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Wow what a car! Any more detail????


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[shivaswrath]

That hood is tits!!

And we need it for sure...i was stuck in stop and go, oil temps went up by 25*!!

[RudyH]

and no pictures of the engine which is the most epic part of the car? [headbang]

[Lusky]

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[Rocketsauce16]

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It’s stockish lol


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[Ducs_Of_Hazzard]

Where can I read more about this TTRS? Is this one of Hank’s? Or is this an Audi Racing creation?

[Lusky]

Where can I read more about this TTRS? Is this one of Hank’s? Or is this an Audi Racing creation?

It’s an Audi Concept Car touring the world there are articles out on it already


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[Ducs_Of_Hazzard]

It’s an Audi Concept Car touring the world there are articles out on it already


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Thanks Lusky

[DQBRS3]

Where can I read more about this TTRS? Is this one of Hank’s? Or is this an Audi Racing creation?

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/sema/audis-592bhp-tribute-90-imsa-gto

[Lusky]

Just gonna leave this here....
#irozmotorsport
#customcode
#e85


https://youtu.be/qbTmDp2qiBc


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[TeKiZeRo]

Just gonna leave this here....
#irozmotorsport
#customcode
#e85


https://youtu.be/qbTmDp2qiBc


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Omg. When is the dyno and track sesh?!

[Lusky]

Omg. When is the dyno and track sesh?!

Dyno pry happening now track is open again in a couple weeks


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[TeKiZeRo]

Dyno pry happening now track is open again in a couple weeks


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Nice, please keep us updated. Let's break 500whp! [>_<]

[Lusky]

Nice, please keep us updated. Let's break 500whp! [>_<]

That already happened on Hanks Stage 2+ RS3 before this latest [emoji16]


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[s316]

That already happened on Hanks Stage 2+ RS3 before this latest [emoji16]


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if u can do a vbox test for it on pump 93 that would be nice.

[TeKiZeRo]

That already happened on Hanks Stage 2+ RS3 before this latest [emoji16]


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Nice! Are you able to disclose his numbers?

[brad65ford]

Hank doesn’t believe in cats and it’s pretty tame bc you still have the resonators and mufflers.


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Partly disagree regarding having resonators since they are removed with the DP kit from Iroz's. One must run there secondary pipes if you want to run there dp since they were designed different and can not mate up to the stock secondary cats (mid pipe). Having purchased the DP kit I'll admit I would have loved to have used the secondary stock cats to remove some of the sound and smell. But I do agree on R&D already being done so I to doubt there will be a catted verson of these DP's from Iroz's. They seem like an all out performance orentented instead of in-between mod'er that want best of both worlds.

[ns2g8tr]

You loose the secondary cats, but there are still 2 factory resonators followed by the muffler. I don’t feel the resonators do anything to help tame the smell. The car is stinky, but I love the sound. Just try not to sit idle for long, lol.

[brad65ford]

You loose the secondary cats, but there are still 2 factory resonators followed by the muffler. I don’t feel the resonators do anything to help tame the smell. The car is stinky, but I love the sound. Just try not to sit idle for long, lol.

Yes it gets old quick [rolleyes] Forgot about those resonators, hum.

[Lusky]

You loose the secondary cats, but there are still 2 factory resonators followed by the muffler. I don’t feel the resonators do anything to help tame the smell. The car is stinky, but I love the sound. Just try not to sit idle for long, lol.

Custom Code Tuning will remove the smell [emoji16]


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[brotherssavage]

Custom Code Tuning will remove the smell [emoji16]


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Maybe I don't know anything, but I don't see how a tune can remove the smell of unburned hydrocarbons without cat(s).

[OE2]

Lean it out on idle/warm up?

[chris164935]

Maybe I don't know anything, but I don't see how a tune can remove the smell of unburned hydrocarbons without cat(s).
E85.

[J_3_f_f]

Maybe I don't know anything, but I don't see how a tune can remove the smell of unburned hydrocarbons without cat(s).

+1 @lusky we need more explanation.


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[Lusky]

Maybe I don't know anything, but I don't see how a tune can remove the smell of unburned hydrocarbons without cat(s).

They turn off the catalyst


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[TeKiZeRo]

Maybe I don't know anything, but I don't see how a tune can remove the smell of unburned hydrocarbons without cat(s).

I think he means with E85 it won't be a problem. But you're right, a tune shouldn't be able to remove everything and you'll still be able to smell E85 without cats. It just won't burn your eyes and nose like regular gasoline.

[context.eax]

Why is this smell a problem when you remove your cats?
Old pre cat cars don't have this smell or?
I learned that it was the cats that makes the smell like some one shit in their pants.


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[brad65ford]

I'm willing to bet the bank there is still going to be a smell running cat-less regardless of the tuning. Unless we have electric car that we are all unaware of [rolleyes]

[lalalaprise]

Unless we have electric car that we are all unaware of [rolleyes]

Please no!! Not yet!! RS electric is on the horizon.

[brotherssavage]

They turn off the catalyst


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I have no doubt they can "code out" the cats so your car wont recognize them not being there, but the fact that you physically do not have cats cannot be tuned out. Cats remove hydrocarbons and byproducts burned during the internal combustion process. That can never be "tuned out" and thus cannot get rid of the smell. Not trying to bust your balls just trying to clear this up for someone who may be interested in these products...

[gaspam]

I have no doubt they can "code out" the cats so your car wont recognize them not being there, but the fact that you physically do not have cats cannot be tuned out. Cats remove hydrocarbons and byproducts burned during the internal combustion process. That can never be "tuned out" and thus cannot get rid of the smell. Not trying to bust your balls just trying to clear this up for someone who may be interested in these products...

+1... "turning the cats off" in the ecu just gets rid of check engine light but it doe not change the fact that no engine is 100% efficient and unburnt fuel will exit the engine and enter the exhaust and you will get gas smell with no physical cats to burn up that unburnt fuel..

as others have mentioned though, you can dial the tune in more and lean out the fuel to get less unburnt fuel exiting the engine, but you will still get gas smell..... that is the price to pay with a catless system.... more HP and more lightheaded when parked in a parking lot running the engine :)

[Lusky]

The smell went away after Stage 1 Flash even before e85 [emoji16]


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[TeKiZeRo]

Lusky, did you end up finish your E85 tune?

[stanglife]

All a tune can do is lean it out a bit at idle - which can reduce the gas smell a LITTLE. Every car I've ever had without cats smelled BAD. The garage smelled, my clothes smelled. Never again. They have high performance cats these days and you hardly notice the difference in power. I'd give 10hp just to not smell like a 50s service station all the time. Way to ruin a car and experience.

[Wkraus]

All a tune can do is lean it out a bit at idle - which can reduce the gas smell a LITTLE. Every car I've ever had without cats smelled BAD. The garage smelled, my clothes smelled. Never again. They have high performance cats these days and you hardly notice the difference in power. I'd give 10hp just to not smell like a 50s service station all the time. Way to ruin a car and experience.

Exactly my thoughts! You nailed it.

[Lusky]

Lusky, did you end up finish your E85 tune?

Yes. Just finished my favorite corner by the house; car is violent now [emoji16]

[emoji16][emoji469]


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[Lusky]

All a tune can do is lean it out a bit at idle - which can reduce the gas smell a LITTLE. Every car I've ever had without cats smelled BAD. The garage smelled, my clothes smelled. Never again. They have high performance cats these days and you hardly notice the difference in power. I'd give 10hp just to not smell like a 50s service station all the time. Way to ruin a car and experience.

All this not true with my car nor Hank’s RS3 which I often drive around and park in my garage as well. Sorry you had that experience but it’s not the case with these setups.


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[TeKiZeRo]

Yes. Just finished my favorite corner by the house; car is violent now [emoji16]

[emoji16][emoji469]


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How did you do in the dyno? [:D]

[MrBlonde]

general rule of thumb is On a 10-second car, about 15 whp = 1 mph gained in 1/4.... so the unitronic rs3 ran 124 and the apr ran 127 so tells me the apr tune is running about 45 whp more than the unitronic.... totally plausible hp gain going from 93oct to race gas tune... so my guess is the results from apr are results of their race gas tune file
Dynos are not a good way to compare horsepower made from tune to tune. Show me the NHRA track weight scale slip, the weather station readout (DA) and the trap speed and I'll draw my own conclusions about which tune made better power.

Too much chicanery with fuel, weight reduction, rubber, etc to compare tuner claims of horsepower gains. This all becomes less important as the tune market matures and lots of folk get out there in their real street cars. Then we get to know which tune results in what traps (and ETs).

[gaspam]

Dynos are not a good way to compare horsepower made from tune to tune. Show me the NHRA track weight scale slip, the weather station readout (DA) and the trap speed and I'll draw my own conclusions about which tune made better power.

. no one said anything about dynos and timeslips have already been out there for a few weeks (which you can get DA from) .... my assertion was that the difference in trap seems like race gas(or some similar hp gaining fuel), and i was right, they used e85 to run the higher traps

[MrBlonde]

no one said anything about dynos and timeslips have already been out there for a few weeks (which you can get DA from) .... my assertion was that the difference in trap seems like race gas(or some similar hp gaining fuel), and i was right, they used e85 to run the higher trapsUnderstood. Sorry if me quoting your post seems like I was refuting something you said, my comment was aimed at the topics in general.

Tuner fanboy wars are tiresome at any time, it's good to see more real world info coming out now where we can all understand which tune creates what results.

[gaspam]

Understood. Sorry if me quoting your post seems like I was refuting something you said, my comment was aimed at the topics in general.

Tuner fanboy wars are tiresome at any time, it's good to see more real world info coming out now where we can all understand which tune creates what results.

i agree with you on the tuner fanboy wars.... seems to happy on every platform though unfortunately

[OE2]

Anyone want to chime in with the new iroz results? 131mph traps!

[speeddemon69]

Anyone want to chime in with the new iroz results? 131mph traps!

Wheres the info?


Edit: never mind saw it on their fb page. Thats crazy!!! [emoji33][emoji33]

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[gaspam]

Wheres the info?


Edit: never mind saw it on their fb page. Thats crazy!!! [emoji33][emoji33]

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http://www.boostaddict.com/content.php?8993-Iroz-Motorsport-gets-a-10-5-131-in-the-1-4-mile-out-of-the-8V-Audi-RS3-sedan-tuned-on-E85

[Lusky]

Anyone want to chime in with the new iroz results? 131mph traps!

Left Lane; track wouldn’t let him burnout/ scrub the tires.

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[1FastS4.Com]

Nice stuff...... Is it ready to ship out?

[Wkraus]

Nice stuff...... Is it ready to ship out?

I am not an APR fan, matter of fact I said I would never buy there stuff again. However, before you jump the gun, know that APR ran the same time with a factory car just tuned and seats removed on e85. Youre looking at a pretty modified result from IROZ to match it. Downpipe and intercooler upgraded. It sure would be nice if a tune could reduce the smell. I am sick of my garage smelling like I parked a snowmobile or 2 stroke dirt bike in it! I have major doubts though. Cats exist for a reason!!

[OE2]

I am not an APR fan, matter of fact I said I would never buy there stuff again. However, before you jump the gun, know that APR ran the same time with a factory car just tuned and seats removed on e85. Youre looking at a pretty modified result from IROZ to match it. Downpipe and intercooler upgraded. It sure would be nice if a tune could reduce the smell. I am sick of my garage smelling like I parked a snowmobile or 2 stroke dirt bike in it! I have major doubts though. Cats exist for a reason!!

APR trapped 127mph vs 131mph with IROZ

Think about that for a second, and look at the ET on the car that ran 135mph in the right lane. Trap speed is indication of power, ET is an indication of how hard you launch and grip down the track.

FYI RS7 Stage 2 will trap 132mph

[brad65ford]

Left Lane; track wouldn’t let him burnout/ scrub the tires.

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nice times Lusky.

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I am not an APR fan, matter of fact I said I would never buy there stuff again. However, before you jump the gun, know that APR ran the same time with a factory car just tuned and seats removed on e85. Youre looking at a pretty modified result from IROZ to match it. Downpipe and intercooler upgraded. It sure would be nice if a tune could reduce the smell. I am sick of my garage smelling like I parked a snowmobile or 2 stroke dirt bike in it! I have major doubts though. Cats exist for a reason!!



Amen brother, I knew I wasn't alone. Ended up removed my DP's not so much for the rattling exhaust sound that was annoying but the smell did bothered me (knew it would but did it anyway). These cars are short wheel base, the tip pipes are close to the cabin. I like to part some times with the car running to run the ac in FL and the smell of a catless exhaust isn't pleasent imo. I do believe some people have more sensitive smells then other people so it may not bother others. After removing it my goal was to have find some type of high flow cats and have them added to Iroz's secondard cat-less pipes just to clean up the smell. But I'm no welder nor is there a lot of options out there that would fit in the tight space. Do i think APR would do a catted dp? doubt it, would Milltek possibly but it most likely wont flow as well as other creations.

[Lusky]

Nice stuff...... Is it ready to ship out?

Yes it is


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[Lusky]

nice times Lusky.

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Amen brother, I knew I wasn't alone. Ended up removed my DP's not so much for the rattling exhaust sound that was annoying but the smell did bothered me (knew it would but did it anyway). These cars are short wheel base, the tip pipes are close to the cabin. I like to part some times with the car running to run the ac in FL and the smell of a catless exhaust isn't pleasent imo. I do believe some people have more sensitive smells then other people so it may not bother others. After removing it my goal was to have find some type of high flow cats and have them added to Iroz's secondard cat-less pipes just to clean up the smell. But I'm no welder nor is there a lot of options out there that would fit in the tight space. Do i think APR would do a catted dp? doubt it, would Milltek possibly but it most likely wont flow as well as other creations.

That is Hank’s RS3 time slip not my TTRS.


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[Lusky]

I am not an APR fan, matter of fact I said I would never buy there stuff again. However, before you jump the gun, know that APR ran the same time with a factory car just tuned and seats removed on e85. Youre looking at a pretty modified result from IROZ to match it. Downpipe and intercooler upgraded. It sure would be nice if a tune could reduce the smell. I am sick of my garage smelling like I parked a snowmobile or 2 stroke dirt bike in it! I have major doubts though. Cats exist for a reason!!

I don’t think you understand the affects of 2,400 DA that Iroz ran in while APR ran in negative DA. Also Fontana would not let Iroz burn / scrub the tires prior to launching. This Iroz RS3is capable of much better 60’ in this current setup.

Also e85 which cares much less about the IAT’s therefore APR didn’t have any issues with knock and could also turn off the knock sensors if needed for the pass.

End the end all the major tuners will achieve max power level on stock turbo.


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[HBird]

Awesome times and updates Lusky

*insert pelcman meme here*

[gaspam]

APR trapped 127mph vs 131mph with IROZ

Think about that for a second, and look at the ET on the car that ran 135mph in the right lane. Trap speed is indication of power, ET is an indication of how hard you launch and grip down the track.

FYI RS7 Stage 2 will trap 132mph +1 exactly! based on trap, the iroz car would drop the apr car on a highway pull.... 4mph diff in trap is no joke

[brad65ford]

+1 exactly! based on trap, the iroz car would drop the apr car on a highway pull.... 4mph diff in trap is no joke

One would think so with dp's and intercooler while the other one has stock dp's and intercooler, no?

[Wkraus]

APR trapped 127mph vs 131mph with IROZ
Exactly! and APR is no modifications except a tune. Once they have a downpipe and intercooler installed like IROZ it will go up as well ;-) We aren't comparing apples to apples is what I am saying.

Think about that for a second, and look at the ET on the car that ran 135mph in the right lane. Trap speed is indication of power, ET is an indication of how hard you launch and grip down the track.

FYI RS7 Stage 2 will trap 132mph

Exactly! and APR is no modifications except a tune. Once they have a downpipe and intercooler installed like IROZ it will go up as well ;-) We aren't comparing apples to apples is what I am saying.

[gaspam]

One would think so with dp's and intercooler while the other one has stock dp's and intercooler, no?

when in the 10's, rule of thumb is around 15 hp per increase in trap mph so 4*15 = 60hp so that would likely be IC+ dp gains

but keep in mind iroz did it in +2400 DA while apr did it in 600DA so if iroz ran in the 1800 DA better track apr did then iroz would of roughly been 10.4/132 (basically picking up 1/10th in ET and 1 mph in trap over the 4 mph they are already up on apr)

[Wkraus]

One would think so with dp's and intercooler while the other one has stock dp's and intercooler, no?

Exactly Brad! Not really a fair comparison. The only way to see who is making the better tune/upgrades are to have them side by side at the same track with the same temp, humidity, altitude...... blah blah blah And why are there no numbers posted for the stages on the IROZ site? Its really hard to decipher anything on there!

[brad65ford]

Personally, I don’t think hank’s rs3 is a factory freak. I do believe some of these little f'er are faster than others. Will be interested as time plays out. Agree with the statement the tuners are max out of what the stock turbos can do.

[Lusky]

Exactly Brad! Not really a fair comparison. The only way to see who is making the better tune/upgrades are to have them side by side at the same track with the same temp, humidity, altitude...... blah blah blah And why are there no numbers posted for the stages on the IROZ site? Its really hard to decipher anything on there!

What numbers are you looking for? Did you inquire with Alik in sales?


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[MrBlonde]

I don’t think you understand the affects of 2,400 DA that Iroz ran in while APR ran in negative DA. Also Fontana would not let Iroz burn / scrub the tires prior to launching. This Iroz RS3is capable of much better 60’ in this current setup.

Also e85 which cares much less about the IAT’s therefore APR didn’t have any issues with knock and could also turn off the knock sensors if needed for the pass.

End the end all the major tuners will achieve max power level on stock turbo.
Couldn't agree more. Drag racers understand DA and the effects on both trap speed and ET. And in the end all the tuners will max out the OEM turbos. But right now IROZ is burning it up for early adopters and showing that APR is not the only good alternative out there. As consumers (and for-fun drag racers) we should love competition for these tunes and hardware.

[Lusky]

Couldn't agree more. Drag racers understand DA and the effects on both trap speed and ET. And in the end all the tuners will max out the OEM turbos. But right now IROZ is burning it up for early adopters and showing that APR is not the only good alternative out there. As consumers (and for-fun drag racers) we should love competition for these tunes and hardware.

Here are some teasers of my 9 second TTRS project at Iroz now

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[gaspam]

Here are some teasers of my 9 second TTRS project at Iroz now

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going ims850 or ims1000? cant wait to see these cars on some big turbo's

[BaltimoreCaesar]

It's crazy how light these aluminum blocks are

[brad65ford]

Guessing it felt that slow Brian [:D]

[DannyLo]

Here are some teasers of my 9 second TTRS project at Iroz now

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Wow, that's some teardown. Are you just assessing strengths and weaknesses, or building the engine?

Would that even be needed to get into the 9s, or are you shooting for more?

[Lusky]

Wow, that's some teardown. Are you just assessing strengths and weaknesses, or building the engine?

Would that even be needed to get into the 9s, or are you shooting for more?

Internals and IMS big turbo kit [emoji16]
Gonna turn the wtq way up and rev to 8,500. Low 9’s then likely 8’s


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[brad65ford]

Internals and IMS big turbo kit [emoji16]
Gonna turn the wtq way up and rev to 8,500. Low 9’s then likely 8’s


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mic drop...

[s316]

Internals and IMS big turbo kit [emoji16]
Gonna turn the wtq way up and rev to 8,500. Low 9’s then likely 8’s


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so u will rebuild the DSG, but it's good to know the limits of the OEM engine and dsg

[Lusky]

so u will rebuild the DSG, but it's good to know the limits of the OEM engine and dsg

DSG does not need build / rebuilding


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[MrBlonde]

Internals and IMS big turbo kit [emoji16]
Gonna turn the wtq way up and rev to 8,500. Low 9’s then likely 8’s
Oooh yeah!

[Rocketsauce16]

Exactly Brad! Not really a fair comparison. The only way to see who is making the better tune/upgrades are to have them side by side at the same track with the same temp, humidity, altitude...... blah blah blah And why are there no numbers posted for the stages on the IROZ site? Its really hard to decipher anything on there!

The nice thing about CC is I can tune/log from home send it over to them and they adjust the file to fit your climate. Granted this ECU adjusts better than any other car I’ve owned. But here in Texas having a tune built for your climate is important. I’ve been told my car is requesting 2-3psi more boost than hanks and I’m on 93. Haven’t launched the car yet but I will say I haven’t broke the car loose in 2nd gear in a straight line since my big turbo subbie days. I’m expecting 10’s in a couple weeks on tune only no weight reduction modifications.


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[brad65ford]

For those that may not know Iroz's is running a Black Sale. Purchase their tune for my RS3. Already have their DP and Intercooler, very excited to feel the difference between the stock tune. Thanks Iroz's keep up the great work

[speeddemon69]

For those that may not know Iroz's is running a Black Sale. Purchase their tune for my RS3. Already have their DP and Intercooler, very excited to feel the difference between the stock tune. Thanks Iroz's keep up the great work

[emoji33]

And no videos, pictures, dyno’s, 1/4 mile? Shame on you lol. [emoji51]


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[RWD2quattro]

Internals and IMS big turbo kit [emoji16]
Gonna turn the wtq way up and rev to 8,500. Low 9’s then likely 8’s
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Can you post pictures of stock rods/pistons? Based on Hanks and your observation, can they handle a larger turbo such as an IMS650?
Thanks.

[WAF]

Can you post pictures of stock rods/pistons? Based on Hanks and your observation, can they handle a larger turbo such as an IMS650?
Thanks.

So many options of turbo kits on iroz site im lost..... Most likely 650 will be where i like to end up as i have a feeling adding more hp wont relate to more smiles on the street. Curious to hear what hp people are planning to run as a DD. For at home tuning this is a must now these days. APR tune might make a lil more hp in the end if it does great but the versatility of the at home tune from other companies is what will turn people away from APR. Glad Hank decided otherwise.

@brad65ford curious on how your liking the upgrades after a lil while? Has any issues came up or annoyances or exhaust open up and sound any different after the mileage?

[Lusky]

So many options of turbo kits on iroz site im lost..... Most likely 650 will be where i like to end up as i have a feeling adding more hp wont relate to more smiles on the street. Curious to hear what hp people are planning to run as a DD. For at home tuning this is a must now these days. APR tune might make a lil more hp in the end if it does great but the versatility of the at home tune from other companies is what will turn people away from APR. Glad Hank decided otherwise.

@brad65ford curious on how your liking the upgrades after a lil while? Has any issues came up or annoyances or exhaust open up and sound any different after the mileage?

The Iroz Stock Hybrid with Xona Internals will do what the 650 will do. IMS710 and up will be the choice for the FL 2.5.

Iroz / Custom Code tuning will max out the safe power on stock turbo, hybrid, and big turbo.

I will start with the IMS710 next.


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[Lusky]

Can you post pictures of stock rods/pistons? Based on Hanks and your observation, can they handle a larger turbo such as an IMS650?
Thanks.

The stock rods can handle ~540wtq. You can run 710,780,820, etc and Iroz will tune the wtq flat below 540 until you upgrade engine internals.

For example on MQB 2.0. IMS650 stock block is 550whp 420wtq. MQB 2.0 Iroz built motor IMS650 is 614whp 520wtq (wtq limited here for the DQ250 gears, clutchpacks are fine)

I’m building motor so will run the IMS710 around 650whp 650wtq and DQ500 can handle 750wtq


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[brad65ford]

So many options of turbo kits on iroz site im lost..... Most likely 650 will be where i like to end up as i have a feeling adding more hp wont relate to more smiles on the street. Curious to hear what hp people are planning to run as a DD. For at home tuning this is a must now these days. APR tune might make a lil more hp in the end if it does great but the versatility of the at home tune from other companies is what will turn people away from APR. Glad Hank decided otherwise.

@brad65ford curious on how your liking the upgrades after a lil while? Has any issues came up or annoyances or exhaust open up and sound any different after the mileage?




in short nothing is availble yet for the FL, soon the way Iroz's is rolling ;-)

[brad65ford]

The stock rods can handle ~540wtq. You can run 710,780,820, etc and Iroz will tune the wtq flat below 540 until you upgrade engine internals.

For example on MQB 2.0. IMS650 stock block is 550whp 420wtq. MQB 2.0 Iroz built motor IMS650 is 614whp 520wtq (wtq limited here for the DQ250 gears, clutchpacks are fine)

I’m building motor so will run the IMS710 around 650whp 650wtq and DQ500 can handle 750wtq


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So its all about controlling the tq levels while trying to increase hp even on the stock turbo, correct? Stock turbo is the limiting factory of HP at the moment not torque, correct?

[Lusky]

So its all about controlling the tq levels while trying to increase hp even on the stock turbo, correct? Stock turbo is the limiting factory of HP at the moment not torque, correct?

Not exactly.

Stock turbo they max whp and wtq on e85. Hybrid expect the same. On the IMS big turbo kits they limit wtq based on what stock rods can handle. If the turbo is big enough you could see where the whp does not max out the turbo because wtq is set flat. I would guess you would start to see that on the 780 and up.

My guess is the 710 on stock motor will do 650whp 540wtq. I will run built motor and valve springs so turn up the wtq and also rev out to 8,000 rpm.


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[q_dubz]

Crazy that 10s are the new 13s

[hckymstr19]

From ur experience what is the max whp and wtq for the stock turbo on these cars? 93 and e85?

[s316]

Not exactly.

Stock turbo they max whp and wtq on e85. Hybrid expect the same. On the IMS big turbo kits they limit wtq based on what stock rods can handle. If the turbo is big enough you could see where the whp does not max out the turbo because wtq is set flat. I would guess you would start to see that on the 780 and up.

My guess is the 710 on stock motor will do 650whp 540wtq. I will run built motor and valve springs so turn up the wtq and also rev out to 8,000 rpm.


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What's the max whp for the stock turbo?
also what turbo choice would hit 600whp on pump gas 93, with less lag?

[Lusky]

What's the max whp for the stock turbo?
also what turbo choice would hit 600whp on pump gas 93, with less lag?

Pump 93 will not max out any of the turbos therefore trying to achieve 600whp on pump 93 you would have to go much bigger turbo which would add lag


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[WAF]

The Iroz Stock Hybrid with Xona Internals will do what the 650 will do. IMS710 and up will be the choice for the FL 2.5.

Iroz / Custom Code tuning will max out the safe power on stock turbo, hybrid, and big turbo.

I will start with the IMS710 next.


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The stock rods can handle ~540wtq. You can run 710,780,820, etc and Iroz will tune the wtq flat below 540 until you upgrade engine internals.

For example on MQB 2.0. IMS650 stock block is 550whp 420wtq. MQB 2.0 Iroz built motor IMS650 is 614whp 520wtq (wtq limited here for the DQ250 gears, clutchpacks are fine)

I’m building motor so will run the IMS710 around 650whp 650wtq and DQ500 can handle 750wtq


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Ok thanks for the info, good to hear you can safe guard until internals are done. Looking forward to the turbo comparisons in the future. 500-550whp would be fun not sure id want all the lag with going any higher since I've got a baby seat in there lol.

[s316]

Pump 93 will not max out any of the turbos therefore trying to achieve 600whp on pump 93 you would have to go much bigger turbo which would add lag


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im sure with the 5 extra port inj in the new engine u can hit more boost on pump 93 than the old one, also i think u can hit 600whp on smaller turbo than the ims850, maybe ims780?! we will see

[Lusky]

im sure with the 5 extra port inj in the new engine u can hit more boost on pump 93 than the old one, also i think u can hit 600whp on smaller turbo than the ims850, maybe ims780?! we will see

780 could get there but he wanted less lag


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[big residual]

Crazy that 10s are the new 13s

Was watching some car restorations show with my father-in-law. A guy wanted to get his muscle car engine built so he could run something in the 12s. Had to laugh.

[s316]

780 could get there but he wanted less lag


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the ims780 hits full boost at 3800rpm or more?

[Lusky]

the ims780 hits full boost at 3800rpm or more?

around 5K on the 2.0; will do maybe 4-800 better on the 2.5


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[tonymission]

So if I get the Iroz/CC tune I can run straight E85 right from the pump with no fuel system upgrades? How much more HP over 93 octane is that?

[Lusky]

So if I get the Iroz/CC tune I can run straight E85 right from the pump with no fuel system upgrades? How much more HP over 93 octane is that?

Correct no fuel system upgrades needed

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[OE2]

that looks like stock vs bolt-on E85

[gaspam]

Correct no fuel system upgrades needed

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damn! I think last time i saw a dyno on hanks car with 93 tune/ic/dp and was at ~455 awhp, so just changing to e85 picked up ~ 70awhp ? that's pretty damn stout! me likey

[FuzzyHat]

Correct no fuel system upgrades needed

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Do you have a dyno graph for Stage 1+ on 93 octane? So tune, dp and midpipes? Sorry if this has been asked before lol

[gaspam]

Do you have a dyno graph for Stage 1+ on 93 octane? So tune, dp and midpipes? Sorry if this has been asked before lol

this is what i saw for the 455 awhp figure... looks like stage 2+ (93/dp/IC)

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/779747-RS3-Iroz-downpipes?p=12710620&viewfull=1#post12710620

[s316]

Correct no fuel system upgrades needed

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so with CAI will gain maybe 15 awhp? ~550 awhp on stock turbo [drool]
no need to upgrade the turbo

* Dyno jet reads higher or lower than ur dyno?

[nesbit]

Wow. But isn't the DSG rated to only 450 lb-ft of torque? Does this kind of power risk serious damage?

[gaspam]

Wow. But isn't the DSG rated to only 450 lb-ft of torque? Does this kind of power risk serious damage?

Dq500 is good for 500 trq on stock clutch packs, 750 trq on upgraded clutch packs

[gaspam]

so with CAI will gain maybe 15 awhp? ~550 awhp on stock turbo [drool]
no need to upgrade the turbo

* Dyno jet reads higher or lower than ur dyno?

i believe they use a Land & Sea dyno (DYNO-mite) which read about same as mustang dyno from what i have seen, so numbers would be higher on dynojet

[Lusky]

Land & Sea dyno is correct


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[Lusky]

Dq500 is good for 500 trq on stock clutch packs, 750 trq on upgraded clutch packs

Look for these numbers to climb as Tuning gets perfected


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[s316]

Dq500 is good for 500 trq on stock clutch packs, 750 trq on upgraded clutch packs

with DSG flash, i think it will hold 600-650 rwtrq

[S3DUDE]

Internals and IMS big turbo kit [emoji16]
Gonna turn the wtq way up and rev to 8,500. Low 9’s then likely 8’s


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Just give a blank check to Iroz and you will be fine.... or drop the wallet and pick it up a few weeks later[drive]. Iroz just found a gold mine with you. I know your wife drives one of the TTS so she must be supportive. I get the "looks" at home when I buy parts even though I pay.

[speeddemon69]

Just give a blank check to Iroz and you will be fine.... or drop the wallet and pick it up a few weeks later[drive]. Iroz just found a gold mine with you. I know your wife drives one of the TTS so she must be supportive. I get the "looks" at home when I buy parts even though I pay.

Ill take the looks over tantrums lol. Im soooooooooooooo glad those days are over. Fuck yeah.....


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[Lusky]

Just give a blank check to Iroz and you will be fine.... or drop the wallet and pick it up a few weeks later[drive]. Iroz just found a gold mine with you. I know your wife drives one of the TTS so she must be supportive. I get the "looks" at home when I buy parts even though I pay.

There are way more expensive builds at projects in and out of Iroz than mine. Wife’s TT Vert is on coilovers, wheel spacers, and upsized PS4S all her choice [emoji469]


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[gaspam]

Look for these numbers to climb as Tuning gets perfected


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[Lusky]

yeah i was figuring that stock clutch pack number would climb once some tcu tunes start coming to market and increasing line/clamping pressures

Next time I drive my car we could see 650whp 600+wtq on stock clutchpacks


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[gaspam]

Next time I drive my car we could see 650whp 600+wtq on stock clutchpacks


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nice! that will be pretty stout stock clutchpacks if it holds consistently w/o slippage

[BaltimoreCaesar]

Next time I drive my car we could see 650whp 600+wtq on stock clutchpacks Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

How long till you drive it next?

[Lusky]

How long till you drive it next?

Pry 2-3 more weeks; having Iroz build my motor so I can turn it up and rev it out without worries plus it will need software updates.


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[hckymstr19]

Pry 2-3 more weeks; having Iroz build my motor so I can turn it up and rev it out without worries plus it will need software updates.


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Are you able to discuss the details on the motor build, in terms of what needs beefing up?

[Lusky]

Are you able to discuss the details on the motor build, in terms of what needs beefing up?

I am doing sleeves, rods, pistons, valve springs. I will be able to run whatever kit I want for a race day, etc. Hank was truly impressed with the motor and Audi’s improvements over the last gen 2.5. Look for ~700whp on my car on the IMS710


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[J_3_f_f]

I am doing sleeves, rods, pistons, valve springs. I will be able to run whatever kit I want for a race day, etc. Hank was truly impressed with the motor and Audi’s improvements over the last gen 2.5. Look for ~700whp on my car on the IMS710


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Lusky,

Using your connection with Hank, could you do this community a favor please? I believe couple tried to reach out to iroz for more info on RS3 options with no response yet.

Information such as before and after CC tuning, difference in power between stages would be helpful in the website. Also, if they are going to charge 1600 (equivalent of very well known brand such as wagner), it would be nice if they post actual info regarding their intercooler info (weight, comparison to stock unit on performance such as temp, pressure drop, etc.).


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[s316]

Lusky,

Using your connection with Hank, could you do this community a favor please? I believe couple tried to reach out to iroz for more info on RS3 options with no response yet.

Information such as before and after CC tuning, difference in power between stages would be helpful in the website. Also, if they are going to charge 1600 (equivalent of very well known brand such as wagner), it would be nice if they post actual info regarding their intercooler info (weight, comparison to stock unit on performance such as temp, pressure drop, etc.).


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+1

[Lusky]

Iroz Downpipe and 93

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[RoyB]

Stage 1 or 2 tune?

[PeteJ]

I am doing sleeves, rods, pistons, valve springs. I will be able to run whatever kit I want for a race day, etc. Hank was truly impressed with the motor and Audi’s improvements over the last gen 2.5. Look for ~700whp on my car on the IMS710


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Any chance you can post pics of the current internals. I'm really curious on how much lightening has been done in the crank.

[Lusky]

Any chance you can post pics of the current internals. I'm really curious on how much lightening has been done in the crank.

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[PeteJ]

This is Audi porn....

[speeddemon69]

Ouch it hurts me to see a brand new engine like that. But on the upside im sure its gonna be better than before.


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[PeteJ]

Ouch it hurts me to see a brand new engine like that. But on the upside im sure its gonna be better than before.


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I'm the opposite....I think this is a beautiful thing and kudos for taking the first step. Knowing people that are running prototype parts from AMS on their Nissan GTRs this is what it takes to evolve a killer platform. I'm curious where the upper limits of the stock block and crank are...Giveer' the beans and hit it with the IMS1000 kit and throw a 500 shot on top of it.[hail]

[speeddemon69]

I'm the opposite....I think this is a beautiful thing and kudos for taking the first step. Knowing people that are running prototype parts from AMS on their Nissan GTRs this is what it takes to evolve a killer platform. I'm curious where the upper limits of the stock block and crank are...Giveer' the beans and hit it with the IMS1000 kit and throw a 500 shot on top of it.[hail]

Its a beautiful thing yes but not on my new 70k car lol. But thats just me. I don’t mind looking at other people doing it though lol. Then again where i’m from most places do half assed jobs so the engine might leak oil or they might forget to put something back.




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[MrBlonde]

Ouch it hurts me to see a brand new engine like that. But on the upside im sure its gonna be better than before.

Why? That's what they all look like with all the plastic crap taken off and cracked open.

[speeddemon69]

Why? That's what they all look like with all the plastic crap taken off and cracked open.

Post #190


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[MrBlonde]

Post #190

Just trying to understand your post. You don't like looking at engine internals or builds because you don't have confidence the places near you would reassemble correctly and it might result in oil leaks or the like?

[speeddemon69]

Just trying to understand your post. You don't like looking at engine internals or builds because you don't have confidence the places near you would reassemble correctly and it might result in oil leaks or the like?

Yeah thats pretty much it. I don’t mind looking at engine builds so as long as its done by a reputable shop that uses quality stuff and does shit by book. For me if i have a new car with 0 miles i just wont do it until at least 50k miles etc. But thats just me.


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[Burningcoals]

This thread is very informative. Just ordered an RS3. I was into B5 game. Time for something new. Wonder how much will progress over the next 4-5 months. :)

[spawn350]

Lusky - if you are on your E85 map and run out of gas and only have 93 available, what do you do? What happens?

[Lusky]

Lusky - if you are on your E85 map and run out of gas and only have 93 available, what do you do? What happens?

Custom Code / Iroz will be making the flex hardware available soon. Lucky for me e85 is ready available. I also run e85 in my A3 IMS710 UM Tuned but I have put 91 in it and it does have the flex hardware and the software auto adjusts.


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[TeKiZeRo]

Lusky - if you are on your E85 map and run out of gas and only have 93 available, what do you do? What happens?

That's the beauty of Flex Fuel, it will adjust the tune based on the octane sensed.

[hckymstr19]

Lusky - if you are on your E85 map and run out of gas and only have 93 available, what do you do? What happens?

But doesn't custom code come with a little obd dongle to be able to switch files, can't you just keep that in the car and then at the gas station switch to 93?

[WAF]

Next time I drive my car we could see 650whp 600+wtq on stock clutchpacks


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nice! that will be pretty stout stock clutchpacks if it holds consistently w/o slippage

curious on where you guys will be getting clutchpacks from and some recommendations of decent companies or company to avoid in the future?

[brad65ford]

But doesn't custom code come with a little obd dongle to be able to switch files, can't you just keep that in the car and then at the gas station switch to 93?

no switches need to upload different files.

[WAF]

Next time I drive my car we could see 650whp 600+wtq on stock clutchpacks


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Custom Code / Iroz will be making the flex hardware available soon. Lucky for me e85 is ready available. I also run e85 in my A3 IMS710 UM Tuned but I have put 91 in it and it does have the flex hardware and the software auto adjusts.


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This is another reason to run CC tuning and deal with Hank from what i've gather and a few messages i've sent him. Seems very down to earth and customer service is top notch, not your average call to an company rep not knowing anything about the products. Very impressed so far with IROZ and Hank, my decision on tuning company is pretty much done. Just want to wait for any mystery bug on the RS3 to appear if any. Big thanks to Lusky for all the info your dropping us and furthering this platform development via info for the masses.

[brad65ford]

This is another reason to run CC tuning and deal with Hank from what i've gather and a few messages i've sent him. Seems very down to earth and customer service is top notch, not your average call to an company rep not knowing anything about the products. Very impressed so far with IROZ and Hank, my decision on tuning company is pretty much done. Just want to wait for any mystery bug on the RS3 to appear if any. Big thanks to Lusky for all the info your dropping us and furthering this platform development via info for the masses.



Yup, with the APR dragging thier feet there will be a great Iroz's following for the 2.5l motors. Hank does seem down to earth, most of his customers are cool too... me included lol.

[J_3_f_f]

I am giving time till January to decide. If APR doesnt put their crap together, looks like I will have to make the drive to IROZ in Jan as you guys all had a good exp with him.

I am just concerned from some other forum review of him (lack of responses, customer service, etc. )along with not much info to go by from IROZ website. But you guys are definitely making me feel more comfortable.


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[WAF]

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I am giving time till January to decide. If APR doesnt put their crap together, looks like I will have to make the drive to IROZ in Jan as you guys all had a good exp with him.

I am just concerned from some other forum review of him (lack of responses, customer service, etc. )along with not much info to go by from IROZ website. But you guys are definitely making me feel more comfortable.


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Here's a quick test you can do lol send both APR and Hank a message on FB or IG I'm pretty sure i know who will respond first. Also look at APR's track record of broken promises and beta testing almost done.... B8.5 A4 stg 3 kit was promised for over 16months.... so yah the 2 weeks comment is an actual thing. In the end all to their own im not paying for multiple flashes and taking time off work to get reflashed etc. Lol i can buy another tune with the one day off i take. Until they get up to date and have a flash at home service i doubt ill ever get another APR tune. Just not worth the money or time for me.

[ns2g8tr]

Hank is as cool as they come! Genuine dude who is an enthusiast himself. One visit to his shop is all it takes. His entire staff shares his same passion and drive.

[Lusky]

curious on where you guys will be getting clutchpacks from and some recommendations of decent companies or company to avoid in the future?

Look for Custom Code / Iroz TCU calibration to allow the stock clutchpacks to be enough for anything and all below built motor wtq


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[WAF]

Look for Custom Code / Iroz TCU calibration to allow the stock clutchpacks to be enough for anything and all below built motor wtq


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sweet sister [drool]

[spawn350]

no switches need to upload different files.

That's unfortunate - that would have been a deal-maker. E85 is where it's at, but I could see myself having to run 93 and being in a pickle. I will be interested to see what the additional hardware Lusky mentioned will be.

[Lusky]

That's unfortunate - that would have been a deal-maker. E85 is where it's at, but I could see myself having to run 93 and being in a pickle. I will be interested to see what the additional hardware Lusky mentioned will be.

Simple flex fuel hardware like in my A3


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[FuzzyHat]

I cannot wait to see what Iroz is going to release! This is looking great!

[Wkraus]

I am giving time till January to decide. If APR doesnt put their crap together, looks like I will have to make the drive to IROZ in Jan as you guys all had a good exp with him.

I am just concerned from some other forum review of him (lack of responses, customer service, etc. )along with not much info to go by from IROZ website. But you guys are definitely making me feel more comfortable.


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I’m doing the same as you. I’ve sent multiple emails to hank without a reply. I have no idea if I have an issue how to get a hold of anyone. I just ordered a downpipe for my 17 golf r from apr and have been taking to someone within 2 minutes of calling there this week. I got my downpipe from iroz for my rs3 and the customer service side of things was not award winning. It took a month to get and there’s no number to call and emails would go unanswered until the new guy he hired finally emailed me back. I’m terrified to tune my rs3 and have no help if something goes wrong. I don’t have Facebook and you shouldn’t need to messenger a business to get customer service. Luckily I have until April or May before I take it back out of storage. Does anyone know of a phone number to talk to these guys?

[Lusky]

I’m doing the same as you. I’ve sent multiple emails to hank without a reply. I have no idea if I have an issue how to get a hold of anyone. I just ordered a downpipe for my 17 golf r from apr and have been taking to someone within 2 minutes of calling there this week. I got my downpipe from iroz for my rs3 and the customer service side of things was not award winning. It took a month to get and there’s no number to call and emails would go unanswered until the new guy he hired finally emailed me back. I’m terrified to tune my rs3 and have no help if something goes wrong. I don’t have Facebook and you shouldn’t need to messenger a business to get customer service. Luckily I have until April or May before I take it back out of storage. Does anyone know of a phone number to talk to these guys?

When nobody was answering it was literally because nobody worked in the office at the time. Some people had to wait longer for their RS3 Downpipe if they were not one of the 25 people that ordered the first day. Custom Code has near 24 hour customer support with real calibrators.

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[brad65ford]

I’m doing the same as you. I’ve sent multiple emails to hank without a reply. I have no idea if I have an issue how to get a hold of anyone. I just ordered a downpipe for my 17 golf r from apr and have been taking to someone within 2 minutes of calling there this week. I got my downpipe from iroz for my rs3 and the customer service side of things was not award winning. It took a month to get and there’s no number to call and emails would go unanswered until the new guy he hired finally emailed me back. I’m terrified to tune my rs3 and have no help if something goes wrong. I don’t have Facebook and you shouldn’t need to messenger a business to get customer service. Luckily I have until April or May before I take it back out of storage. Does anyone know of a phone number to talk to these guys?


Never spoke directly with Hank, though I've spoke with a few guys that work with him indirectly as well as helped with the tuning of these ttrs and rs3's. Does seem a little tricky to get a hold of Iroz's at times though Alik is always there to help if there are issues. Glad to hear APR will answer your responses, they seem like a very large company with is a good and bad thing, sorry i just get rubbed the wrong way with those guys. As I said you wont see an APR tune without the rest of the components to go along with it IMO. They are great at marketing though Iroz's ain't no nobody regarding performance products with the 5 cylinder, they teamed up with CC and did a great job thus far it seems, time will tell but that's like everything else. I too was waiting for APR tune but pulled the trigger with Iroz/CC's tune since I already had all there performance parts. Life is short I'm not waiting any more for what will be similar in performance imo. Moving on to the next mods for my car. BTW its always a nice feeling when your purchasing goodies for your car in which the owner has the exact car as you. Hank seems down to earth hopefully he continues this path for more power with our RS3's and TTRS's BUT with the stock bottom end while he lets Brian aka Lusky build the crap out of his block lol.

[Lusky]

Here is an Iroz Stock Hybrid using Xona internals and custom IMS add ons to make it work. Look for this Hybrid to do ~650bhp

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[OE2]

can you do the hybrid turbo swap with the motor still in the car?

[FuzzyHat]

Here is an Iroz Stock Hybrid using Xona internals and custom IMS add ons to make it work. Look for this Hybrid to do ~650bhp

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Forgive me as a total newbie, but what is a Hybrid turbo, and why is it awesome?

[DoItAllGarage]

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Love seeing performance engine builds! Engineering them to be even stronger. Such a new engine, are guys using ARP bolts (always getting APR & ARP mixed up). That Harbor Freight engine stand is doing its job just fine. Keep up the good work!



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[Lusky]

can you do the hybrid turbo swap with the motor still in the car?

Yes


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[jsimon7777]

Forgive me as a total newbie, but what is a Hybrid turbo, and why is it awesome?

Hybrid turbos take the stock turbos and modify them. I think people like them because, with a stock external footprint, they don't need extra mods just to fit.

[TeKiZeRo]

Forgive me as a total newbie, but what is a Hybrid turbo, and why is it awesome?

It's basically taking the stock turbo and changing out the guts. Like bigger turbine wheel while keeping the stock frame intact.

[brad65ford]

Here is an Iroz Stock Hybrid using Xona internals and custom IMS add ons to make it work. Look for this Hybrid to do ~650bhp

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Thinking how awesome it is that Hank is going to work on this with CC. Freaking Hank and IMS don't stop do they :-)

[ns2g8tr]

Can’t even begin to think how fast this is going to be. Will need a new level of super car to pick on. I only have Tune and DP and I’m hurting feelings weekly.

[speeddemon69]

Can’t even begin to think how fast this is going to be. Will need a new level of super car to pick on. I only have Tune and DP and I’m hurting feelings weekly.

Kill list please [emoji51]


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[RWD2quattro]

Any updates/pics?

[Lusky]

Any updates/pics?

Several people now running e85 Stage 2+ as of the last day or 2; expected responses soon


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[Lusky]

Stock motor and stock clutchpacks full interior

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[turillo]

Stock motor and stock clutchpacks full interior

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Wow...congratulations!

Can you please share details with regards to fuel type used and if any other surrounding bolt on parts were used; such as: FMIC Upgrade, DP's ect?

I'm very impressed. On a ever so slightly better pass - that's a 9 second car!!!

Amazing

[speeddemon69]

Stock motor and stock clutchpacks full interior

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OMG [emoji54] DETAILS PLEASE! And then wash your hands lol. [emoji38]


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[Lusky]

OMG [emoji54] DETAILS PLEASE! And then wash your hands lol. [emoji38]


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That is not me that is Hank Iroz’s RS3. My TTRS will run soon but on built motor and IMS big turbo kit so it will have much more power.


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[speeddemon69]

That is not me that is Hank Iroz’s RS3. My TTRS will run soon but on built motor and IMS big turbo kit so it will have much more power.


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I don’t know who’s it is but i need details and they need to wash their hands lol


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[gaspam]

That is not me that is Hank Iroz’s RS3. My TTRS will run soon but on built motor and IMS big turbo kit so it will have much more power.


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is hanks car on hybrids or new turbo ? Impressive either way, but if that's on hybrids then that's pretty insane :)

[Drof]

from the history of their Instagram......I believe it is

full frame turbo (bigger turbo that requires larger exhaust manifold connection), downpipe, intercooler, and I'm not sure what fuel but my guess is e85

again, they don't disclose everything due to it still being in the research phase.

The part I'm most excited for is that they opened the block and apparently they were confident enough to bolt this thing onto a stock internals, stock valves, stock everything block! and raise the rev limiter to 8k!!

Dare I say this Audi 5 cylinder is the new modern age 2jz?!

[s316]

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How many AWHP in it? is this the max of the turbo?

Dyno sheet please, i would like to see the spool

[Lusky]

OMG [emoji54] DETAILS PLEASE! And then wash your hands lol. [emoji38]


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Sorry everyone I made a mistake. Car went 10.2 full interior and 10.09 with the rear and passenger seats removed.


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[Lusky]

How many AWHP in it? is this the max of the turbo?

Dyno sheet please, i would like to see the spool

This is not the turbo max this is stock motor calibration. We will max out the turbo on my TTRS since I had Iroz build my motor. So max will add ~200+bhp


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[brad65ford]

Sorry everyone I made a mistake. Car went 10.2 full interior and 10.09 with the rear and passenger seats removed.


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bitch be moving!

[OE2]

from the history of their Instagram......I believe it is

full frame turbo (bigger turbo that requires larger exhaust manifold connection), downpipe, intercooler, and I'm not sure what fuel but my guess is e85

again, they don't disclose everything due to it still being in the research phase.

The part I'm most excited for is that they opened the block and apparently they were confident enough to bolt this thing onto a stock internals, stock valves, stock everything block! and raise the rev limiter to 8k!!

Dare I say this Audi 5 cylinder is the new modern age 2jz?!

Great details. I wonder if they have an intake or using the stock pipe

[jl87]

They made a temporary 3.5" intake for it.

[Drof]

Great details. I wonder if they have an intake or using the stock pipe

I think the post today one of their responses was stock airbox but as the post above yes bigger intake piping


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[Lusky]

I think the post today one of their responses was stock airbox but as the post above yes bigger intake piping


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Correct; IE getting close to having a prototype airbox to Iroz


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[BaltimoreCaesar]

This is not the turbo max this is stock motor calibration. We will max out the turbo on my TTRS since I had Iroz build my motor. So max will add ~200+bhp


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For clarity, you are saying this run was with the stock turbo, and that there is another ~200bhp left in the stock turbo before it's maxed out?

[gaspam]

For clarity, you are saying this run was with the stock turbo, and that there is another ~200bhp left in the stock turbo before it's maxed out?

sounds to me like he's saying is the turbo is not stock, but the tune/boost they are running is for stock internals... once they beef up the internals they will put in a more aggressive tune/turn up boost which would net an additional ~200hp

at least that's how i read it

[Lusky]

sounds to me like he's saying is the turbo is not stock, but the tune/boost they are running is for stock internals... once they beef up the internals they will put in a more aggressive tune/turn up boost which would net an additional ~200hp

at least that's how i read it

You are correct. Hank is running this IMS Turbo Kit on stock motor. My TTRS has the motor pulled to upgrade internals and I will run this IMS Turbo kit higher hp and tq


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[BaltimoreCaesar]

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification

[Drof]

question.....

in hanks video he posted on youtube I noticed he was shifting from 1st to 2nd. Is the automatic shift from 1st to 2nd coded out now with the tune?