S3 Mod Thread

[will13k7]

Just a thread to share the modifications I make for a OEM+ setup.

2015 Audi S3:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/484/19224095284_34b4e4d2aa_o.jpg

Mods:
- 034MOTORSPORT Stage 2 ECU Tune (91 octane).
- 034MOTORSPORT TCU Tune.
- APR Open Carbon Fiber Intake
- APR Carbon Fiber Intake Turbo Inlet Pipe
- APR Turbo Muffler Delete
- APR MQB Intercooler System
- APR Silicone Boost Hoses (full system)
- APR Boost Tap System (just capped off now)
- SPULEN Throttle Pipe
- SPULEN Turbo Outlet Pipe


- AWE SwitchPath Exhaust with 102mm Silver Tips
- AWE Resonated Downpipe

- Bilstein PSS10 Coilovers (FTG 25 1/16" front, 25 3/16" rear)
- iSWEEP DCC Canceler Kit
- 034MOTORSPORT Dogbone Mount Insert
- 034MOTORSPORT Rear Sway Bar
- 034MOTORSPORT Front & Rear Dynamic+ Rubber End Links
- 034MOTORSPORT Rear Subframe Inserts
- 034MOTORSPORT Front Subframe Locking Collar Upgrade Kit
- 034MOTORSPORT Density Line Rear Upper Adjustable Control Arms
- 034MOTORSPORT Dynamic+ Camber Plates


- Neuspeed 6-piston Calipers with 340mm brackets, front.
- Girodisc 2-Piece Floating Slotted Rotors, 340x30mm front, 310x22mm rear (oem sizes).
- iSWEEP IS1500 Brake Pads, front & rear.
- Neuspeed stainless steel braided brake lines, front.
- Goodridge stainless steel braided brake lines, rear.
- Castrol SRF

- ECS Aluminum Street Shield Skid Plate Kit
- eCodes (OEM European Spec Headlight Housings)
- 034MOTORSPORT Carbon Fiber Engine and Fuse Box Covers.
- OEM Carbon Fiber Rear Trunk Spoiler.
- OEM Carbon Fiber Mirror Covers.

VCDS Tweaks:
- Disable LED wink on turn signal.
- Enable remote operation to close windows (open was already enabled).
- Disable Soundaktor.
- Enable Oil Temperature on all displays.

Wheels:
- Neuspeed RSe10 19x8.0 ET45.
- Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 235/35.
- ECS Spacers (15mm front and rear).

Previous:
- OEM Wheels, 19x8.0 ET49, pushed out to ET39 rear and ET34 front, with Michelin Pilot Super Sport 235/35 Tires.
- ECS Spacers (15mm front, 10mm rear)
- KW EDC Cancellation Kit (still got codes (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/681482-KW-EDC-Cancellation-Kit-Mag-Ride-Coilovers-any-shop-manufacturer-want-to-help))
- OEM 8V RS3 Front brakes calipers (8-piston brembo) painted Glacier White Metallic.
- OEM 8V RS3 Front brake dust shields.
- RS5 Front Caliper Brackets.
- OEM RSQ3 365x34mm dimpled wave front rotors.
- OEM RS7 356x22mm dimpled wave rear rotors.
- Goodridge stainless steel braided brake lines, front.
- HKS SQV4 Blow Off Valve.
- APR Turbo Inlet Pipe.
- 034MOTORSPORT Carbon Fiber Battery Cover.
- Spulen MQB Intake Coolant Hose.
- APR MQB Intake Coolant Hose.
- APR Closed Carbon Fiber Intake.
- 034MOTORSPORT Front & Rear Motorsport Spherical End Links
- 034MOTORSPORT Motorsport Spherical Rear Upper Adjustable Control Arms
- Ground Control Front Camber Plates
- APR Stage 2 ECU Tune, high torque version.
- APR TCU Tune.


Stock:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8895/18722452526_3f86405e87_o.jpg

Also check out my B8 S4 Mod Thread (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/573771-Will13k7-2012-Brilliant-Black-B8-S4-(DSG)?p=9326154) [up].

Also check out my B9 S4 Mod Thread (https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/810507-S4-Mod-Thread) [up].

[goreckless]

Off topic - do you work in tech?

[EvohuntinS3]

Awesome Looks great in white!!!! Im sure you'll do a great job with the S3 like your S4

[will13k7]

^^ thanks!

Cousins:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/368/18323424331_afb75ca058_h.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8865/18143078190_898047d871_k.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/497/18592616919_a14ac53d34_k.jpg

[PbanyS3]

Yummy!

Can we have more eye candy pics of them together? THX[s3][s4]

[ModdedEuros]

^^ thanks!

Cousins:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/368/18323424331_afb75ca058_h.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8865/18143078190_898047d871_k.jpg

The perfect garage

[will13k7]

disabled wink:

http://youtu.be/UKwGGIl_urM

[hamz01]

disabled wink:

http://youtu.be/UKwGGIl_urM

Nice. What's the code for this? I tried one previously that didn't work.

[will13k7]

Nice. What's the code for this? I tried one previously that didn't work.

Thanks! This was the one I followed:

[09] Central Electronics
Security Access 31347
Adaptation
(16)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion G 2
Default: Blinken linksaktiv (beide Phasen)
(18)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert GH 2
Set to: 100%.
(19)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction GH 2
Set to: Minimize
(16)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion G 3
Default: Blinken rechts aktiv (beide Phasen)
(18)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert GH 3
Set to: 100%.
(19)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction GH 3
Set to: Minimize

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/651725-We-need-a-VCDS-Sticky-with-requests-and-answers?p=10755546&viewfull=1#post10755546

[will13k7]

Intake arrived today [:D]
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/294/19005748019_fca9e2825c_k.jpg

[will13k7]

Random:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3676/19430778120_f83e972222_k.jpg

[will13k7]

Popped the intake in:

OEM Air Box Out:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/406/19821138961_76f85069a7_k.jpg

Left front tab in position:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/19808989562_8e576ed9bf_b.jpg

Right front tab in position, another guy unfortunately broke his tab holder, so I was very careful:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/499/19821136361_3cda2d29b6_b.jpg

All done:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3820/19821141561_056663f55c_k.jpg

I tired to run the hose under the intake, but it choked the hose. (if you look close you'll see the vacuum hose still unattached, didn't snap a pix after, too lazy! haha)

With the windows down, it kind of sounds like I have a BV instead of a DV now and the turbo spool is louder.

[will13k7]

The perfect garage

Almost, both need to be modded first! haha. Actually, a RS4 and RS3 would be my perfect garage! ... and actually, I would have a bigger garage with space for more cars! lol.

[Thumper3]

Glad I'm not the only one with both. LOL At first I felt a little silly, both sedans, both similar-ish in stock power. But they really are vastly different cars in feel and performance.




Almost, both need to be modded first! haha. Actually, a RS4 and RS3 would be my perfect garage! ... and actually, I would have a bigger garage with space for more cars! lol.

RS4 Avant and a TT-RS would be mine technically. LOL

[CbutterK]

Glad I'm not the only one with both. LOL At first I felt a little silly, both sedans, both similar-ish in stock power. But they really are vastly different cars in feel and performance.





RS4 Avant and a TT-RS would be mine technically. LOL

Admittedly, My TT-RS & S3 are no longer comfortable Daily drivers... So my perfect Garage would be, TT-RS, RS3, RS7, & Q7 TDI. Unfortunately, that would mean my dogs will have to eat cheap generic dog food for the rest of their lives, and I don't think they will approve, not to mention my daughter will insist on me upgrading her Audi A4 as well... LOL

[VW2Audi25]

Glad I'm not the only one with both. LOL At first I felt a little silly, both sedans, both similar-ish in stock power. But they really are vastly different cars in feel and performance.

RS4 Avant and a TT-RS would be mine technically. LOL


How would you compare the feel/performance between the two?

[will13k7]

How would you compare the feel/performance between the two?

S4 rockets off the line, S3 is slow until 3K rpms, S3 needs launch control to have fun off the line, S4 doesn't. I sometimes get that losing your stomach feeling with the S4 when flooring it off the line.

In stock form, redlining the S4 is uninspiring since they cut-boost up top (fixed with a tune). The S3 pulls hard to redline stock.

S3 has immediate turn in, feels more light and nimble.

S3 has some annoying omissions, the sun visors are fixed and don't telescope, missing driver seat memory, advanced key only works on the front doors.

S3's LED headlights are awesome looking at night.

In its stock form, the S3's behavior at its limits while cornering is not fun, anything but balanced, but I hope to correct this with coils and alignment. I have a feeling after that it will be great. The S4 has the sports diff, which corrects understeer and pulls the back out, giving it a much more balanced feel even in stock form.

I have a B8 S4, so the tech is more different between it and the S3 than a B8.5 would be. Can't say any of the tech is much more useful, its mostly just more polished. I did like using the google maps's street view to find an exact building location once though, so bonus points there.

[Alloy07]

Lots of great info here. Love the garage pics and your choice of car colors. How does the ride quality compare between the two, although I am guessing your roads are much better then here in Michigan.

Any more photos of the S4, love to see a side shot with those wheels !

[will13k7]

Lots of great info here. Love the garage pics and your choice of car colors. How does the ride quality compare between the two, although I am guessing your roads are much better then here in Michigan.

Any more photos of the S4, love to see a side shot with those wheels !

Thanks! Click the /S4 in my sig to see that mod thread [:)] Ride quality between the two feel similar, the S3 has a little more road noise, both drive/feel like an Audi though, that is, smooth and refined.

[Alloy07]

Thanks! Click the /S4 in my sig to see that build thread [:)] Ride quality between the two fell similar, the S3 has a little more road noise, both drive/feel like and Audi though, that is, smooth and refined.

Just read your S4 build thread, WOW !!!! awesome car, very well thought out mods. Liked the video's, subscribed to both builds, can't wait to see what you do with the S3 !

[will13k7]

Just read your S4 build thread, WOW !!!! awesome car, very well thought out mods. Liked the video's, subscribed to both builds, can't wait to see what you do with the S3 !

thanks man! I have a mod problem! I'm really resisting doing too much to the S3, we'll see how I hold up. [;)]

[Alloy07]

thanks man! I have a mod problem! I'm really resisting doing too much to the S3, we'll see how I hold up. [;)]

I know how that goes, I have an 07 Mustang that I haven't stopped moding in 9 years. Always changing something, I can't think of any car that we have owned that I left as is. This is our first Audi and so far I am very impressed. Do love your S4, considered an S4 but we just fell for the size of the S3, really about the same size as our 2012 Focus 5dr MT. But with lots of luxury and performance features IMHO.

We wanted one car with an Auto and can't think of many small sedans with a decent auto.

[will13k7]

^^ I liked the S3 because of its size too! Love zipping around in small cars.

Just replaced the 17.5mm spacers in the rear with 10mm to match the front, didn't think about it before getting them, but the wider rear ended up promoting more understeer, now its more neutral and still looks good to me.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/288/20199166272_0089880e59_k.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3808/19586385703_4b06acff35_k.jpg

Sill waiting on the EDC Cancellation Kit so I can get my coils installed, man its taking forever! Can't wait to get rid of that wheel well gap.

[will13k7]

Since my exhaust is getting installed next week, I disabled the infamous soundaktor. The below VCDS coding worked for me, use at your own risk though. I prefer the real engine sounds I can still hear versus the fake induction noise from the soundaktor. DSG still farts of course [:)]

1. A9 Struct. Borne Sound
2. Adaptation 10
3. Select "Channel of structure borne sound actuator" (only one)
4. Change to the value you want, stored in %, I set mine to 0.
5. Use the suggested code for change approval.

[will13k7]

Wow, that quality tho:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/782/20854680285_2549646bab_k.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5656/20845088792_fb958bffe2_k.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/625/20854681975_c72bdf638f_k.jpg

[soS3rious]

Ugh that exhaust looks beautiful! [drool] Install it already lol

[will13k7]

Ugh that exhaust looks beautiful! [drool] Install it already lol

lol... tomorrow!

[UroTuning]

Nice choice on the Awe exhaust!!

[will13k7]

^^Thanks! I ordered it from Excelerate Performance the first day it came out!

I'll get some better pictures tomorrow after her drop, but here's some quick shots of the exhaust:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/614/20723245209_b4085ed92f_k.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/586/20909996625_782579c606_k.jpg

A quick video of starting up and revving:

(use headphones with good bass and turn it up! Disclaimer: the exhaust is not broken in yet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WinaP1KdB50&feature=youtu.be

Also, while 034MOTORSPORT was installing my exhaust, I also got their dogbone mount installed:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5810/20751843588_f7737ff8c8_o.jpg
... up and down shifts are definitely firmer and I didn't notice any additional noise or vibrations, the shifts are a little harsher when getting on it, but I don't notice any harshness under other conditions.

Lastly, this arrived in the mail today, it will make my intake install look cleaner by running this hose under the intake:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/764/20722261438_4cb217a744_k.jpg

[will13k7]

The DSG farts are glorious now!

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5752/20914396525_2fd18f603b_k.jpg

[will13k7]

From AWE about when the valve opens/closes:

"We have concluded that valve operation in the S3 is dependent upon two things, throttle angle and load. Valve is always open at idle and closes after engine reaches ~1100 RPM. Valve will only open while vehicle is moving if two conditions are met, throttle angle exceeds ~75% AND engine is above 3500 RPM."

Matches my experience from today, I noticed when the valve opened around 3.5k rpms with some decent throttle in manual mode, the sound level changed suddenly, sometimes with a burble sound.

Some other impressions, the exhaust is louder than my APR/CORSA exhaust on the S4 below 5K rpm, but the APR gets much louder after that. I can't get enough of the DSG fart now. Its a great sounding exhaust in my opinion, as someone whom mostly likes just a little rasp and an exhaust that is only really loud when you floor it.

[JGreen76]

It's good to see another Glacier Wt.

Fun list of Mods you have there.

[will13k7]

^^ Thanks, I'm really loving this color, the blue metallic looks great! ... and far easier to maintain than black!

From yesterday, my car is the one on the lift:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/585/20729015679_f86a51a076_h.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5630/20916690746_46027da232_b.jpg

The car is dropped now (perfectly I think), and going around a corner feels right, the tail will want to come out instead of the front plowing, and I even got a little four wheel slide going today (closed course in mexico) where the back came out just a little first. I think it will be even better after I get an alignment with more negative camber up front, and possibly a rear sway bar in the future. The PSS10s ride better than the magride suspension, less bouncy when compared to dynamic mode. I have them set at '6' all around right now, I might experiment with '7' later.

[will13k7]

a few quick pixs from this morning:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5731/20332133104_db6cf51dbc_k.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5644/20333904383_7e63ccd059_k.jpg

It should drop 1/8" more all around in a week or so when it settles, right now no rubbing [:)]

[will13k7]

A quick video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_i-UwAMYco

That beep at the end is my car throwing codes! [facepalm] Something is up with the KW EDC Cancellation Kit.

Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250) Labels: 8V0-907-376.clb
Part No SW: 8V0 907 376 E HW: 8V0 907 376 E
Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H09 0072
Serial number: 280115000
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudiMagneRide 002003
ROD: EV_AudiMagneRide_AU37.rod
VCID: 43855E16CA62FA260B-8016

5 Faults Found:
2117646 - Front Left Ride-Height Sensor
C1034 07 [008] - Mechanical Failure
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 238
Mileage: 4804 km
Date: 2015.08.28
Time: 08:48:42

3149829 - Valve for Damping Adjustment Front Left
C1040 1D [008] - Current Implausible
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 238
Mileage: 4826 km
Date: 2015.08.28
Time: 10:46:16

3153925 - Valve for Damping Adjustment Front Right
C1041 1D [008] - Current Implausible
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 238
Mileage: 4827 km
Date: 2015.08.28
Time: 10:46:48

3158021 - Valve for Damping Adjustment Rear Left
C1042 1D [008] - Current Implausible
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 239
Mileage: 4894 km
Date: 2015.08.28
Time: 16:01:15

3162117 - Valve for Damping Adjustment Rear Right
C1043 1D [008] - Current Implausible
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 248
Mileage: 4894 km
Date: 2015.08.28
Time: 16:01:23

[will13k7]

More angles:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/727/20959511995_88ba070311_k.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/615/20966949801_855008d303_k.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5699/20772450800_6030d26975_k.jpg

[Alloy07]

Stance looks perfect, love the exhaust. IMO the tips look perfect in the side and rear views.

[will13k7]

Stance looks perfect, love the exhaust. IMO the tips look perfect in the side and rear views.
Thanks man, I can't stop staring at it! The rear looks mean with those tips.

[will13k7]

Installed the Spulen Coolant Hose. I didn't have an install guide to go off of, so I just manipulated it until it looked tidy.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/749/20395042334_4d1ff43bac_k.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/688/20396603473_8fb61cb307_k.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5660/20991417016_f24b4a5354_k.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/699/20829577540_6114eb1350_k.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/726/21017669165_d8c6463edc_k.jpg

[Benji00]

Beautiful man! I currently have H&R springs and will be coming over to coils....that a shame about the EDC module, keep us posted.

[onequick4door]

I'm assuming you didn't have to drain the coolant ? Did you have to get the air out of the system after the install? If you did have to bleed the air out, would love to know what you did.

[soS3rious]

I'm done with mods for a little while.

One thing I still don't like is that I feel the car flexing on high speed turns, so sway-bars, end-links, and maybe a tunnel brace are in my future, just not soon since there are so few options out for this right now and I want to wait and see what gets offered by 034Motorsport and EuroCode.

I'll also report back what the solution for the suspension codes is once this issue is sorted out.

I highly recommend the Unibrace UBQ and XBQ. I haven't installed them yet but I have heard nothing but good things.

[will13k7]

I'm assuming you didn't have to drain the coolant ? Did you have to get the air out of the system after the install? If you did have to bleed the air out, would love to know what you did.

good questions, this was from the product description:

"Installation can be completed in just a few minutes and DOES NOT require the coolant to be drained."
http://www.uspmotorsports.com/Audi--S3--2015--2.0T/Engine/Accessories/Spulen-MQB-Intake-Coolant-Hose-Solution.html

This made me think I can just pop off the old one, pop on the new one, and top off the coolant. I'm going to double check now though.

[will13k7]

I'm assuming you didn't have to drain the coolant ? Did you have to get the air out of the system after the install? If you did have to bleed the air out, would love to know what you did.

From USP Motorsports:

"It is fairly simple as it is just a remove and replace procedure. I recommend installing the hose when the vehicle is completely cold."

It looks like the S3 has a pressurized cooling system and I didn't find a bleeder valve.

I did two heat cycles after topping it off with some G13 Audi Coolant, letting it idle for about five minutes after the fans came on. When I turned the car off the first time I saw coolant and air bubbles entering the top of the overflow tank, the second time, only coolant. When the car cooled down, I opened the overflow tank and some air escaped, more air escaped for the first heat cycle, hardly any on the second heat cycle.

It seems like the air works its way out this way, and this burps the system.

[will13k7]

034MOTORSPORT did a write-up on the work done on my car and took some amazing photos, damn, I wish I could take pictures like this!

http://store.034motorsport.com/blog/glacier-white-metallic-audi-s3-suspension-upgrades-performance-exhaust/

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5773/20452876293_2aedd4541d_o.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5637/21073934645_278803d09d_o.jpg
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[will13k7]

I visited 034 today, they double checked all the EDC connections and they were perfect. They also tried a couple of VCDS tricks, something about taking the suspension module off the bus, but that didn't work. We are awaiting KW to weigh-in and let us know our options. Early adopter issues. I'm sure eventually there will be a solution, in the mean time, when I drive civilly, it doesn't throw codes. Its somewhat of an annoyance when driving harder, but it also re-enables traction control after the code is thrown, which can prevent some fun.

034 also diagnosed a metal squeaking sound that popped up after a couple of days and they traced this down the AWE Exhaust Valves opening and closing. Every time to I come to a complete stop, and have my windows open, I can hear the valves opening with a high-pitched metal squeaking sound. I've contacted AWE to see what I can do about it. I rather try to fix it in place than take it apart, but it might come to just replacing the left-most pipe with the squeaky valve.

Nothing is really a show stopper and the benefits far outweigh the minor issues right now, so overall I'm very happy with the changes.

[will13k7]

AWE got back to me about the squeaking noise when the exhaust flaps open/close. They suggested some high-temp grease, and that did the trick! Lucky for me, I just needed to pack some grease in the lower portion of the outside of the valve, took just a couple of minutes, and no more noise!

The grease I'm trying out:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/568/20929591639_d1cca60e57.jpg

The spot I packed grease into:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/622/20928260990_cfde482386_k.jpg

[coolwater]

Car is looking great. Love the AWE tips.
Wonder if stock exhaust allows a tip swap.
Good luck figuring out the EDC.
Vagcom coding on the S3 ECU is not so easy to crack.

-cW

[onequick4door]

How are you liking the dogbone insert?

[will13k7]

How are you liking the dogbone insert?

good improvement for the price, no added noise/vibrations, can't really go wrong here.

[phillyquattro]

Regarding suspension codes getting thrown on my car when I take corners aggressively:

KW got back to us, it seems the delete kit operates completely independent of the dampers so codes shouldn't only get thrown when driving aggressively if their was a problem with the KW delete kit.

They suggested checking the connections, but all the connections were checked and double checked already.

KW asked for more information though, so we provided the codes extracted from VCDS just in case it is useful. It sounds like their stance is that there is something else wrong with the car, but they are willing to look more into it.

Apparently Bilstein has just released a new version of PSS10s for our cars. I have the previous version. There is a theory it could be the coils and the new version was made to fix the issue.

If you're getting PSS10s, be sure to get that new version just to be safe, even though it's unknown if the fault codes are related to them.

I'm not sure if this problem will get worked out, I guess we'll see how it goes.

This really makes me hesitant to buy a set of coils. Do you happen to have any details on how to tell the new PSS10 kit vs the "old" one?

[will13k7]

This really makes me hesitant to buy a set of coils. Do you happen to have any details on how to tell the new PSS10 kit vs the "old" one?

These are the ones I got, so not these I guess [>_<]

BILSTEIN B16 PSS10 SUSPENSION KIT BIL-48-230063

[Benji00]

So appreciative of you keeping us updated on the KW module issues. I've got a set of Blistein B14 (PSS) on the way...wonder if there is a new and old version of those....hmmm.

I hope you're able to resolve the issue shortly.

[will13k7]

Big Tippies: [:p]
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/667/21338592776_e27309991c_b.jpg

[will13k7]

After sending KW the suspension error codes they asked for me to measure the resistance of my OEM Dampers. The resistance was 1.4 ohms. It danced a little between 1.4, 1.5, and 1.6, but looked to settle on 1.4. I measured all four, they all were the same.

If it comes to needing to swap coils, I think I'm going to have to pass on that for now since that might not even fix it. I'll let someone else with more time figure it out instead [;)]

Earlier in the week I got the rear raised about a half inch since the rear tire was tucking into the fender about a quarter inch more than the front after everything settled, now its perfect. I also have an alignment appointment in a couple of weeks.

[phillyquattro]

After sending KW the suspension error codes they asked for me to measure the resistance of my OEM Dampers. The resistance was 1.4 ohms. It danced a little between 1.4, 1.5, and 1.6, but looked to settle on 1.4. I measured all four, they all were the same.

If it comes to needing to swap coils, I think I'm going to have to pass on that for now since that might not even fix it. I'll let someone else with more time figure it out instead [;)]

Earlier in the week I got the rear raised about a half inch since the rear tire was tucking into the fender about a quarter inch more than the front after everything settled, now its perfect. I also have an alignment appointment in a couple of weeks.

Thanks for the update. I highly recommend Custom Alignment and Brakes in Mountain View. They do a ton of high end cars and track day set ups. The owner is a pit crew member for some race team that's escaping my memory at this moment (doh).

[will13k7]

I highly recommend Custom Alignment and Brakes in Mountain View.

funny you should mention that, that's where I have an appointment with, they did my S4 too. They did the exact alignment I asked for and left/right were perfectly matched. Those guys are good!

[phillyquattro]

funny you should mention that, that's where I have an appointment with, they did my S4 too. They did the exact alignment I asked for and left/right were perfectly matched. Those guys are good!

Yea they're great. I had a bit of a brake failure on my A4 after they did a brake job for me, but they owned it, fixed it, and were incredibly apologetic about it. Customer service couldn't have possibly been better for such the situation. I view it as an anomaly from their usual work as I've personally never had a previous problem with them, none of the many people I personally know that use them have ever had problems, and all their reviews on every site are stellar. I'll be taking the S3 to them for future jobs for sure.

[velodb]

Wow, that quality tho:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/782/20854680285_2549646bab_k.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5656/20845088792_fb958bffe2_k.jpg
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I am sorry but when I think quality I don't think AWE exhausts. Look at all the dents/ripples in the muffler especially above the logo to the left. That is hot metal from welding deforming. I got their exhaust on my C7 S6 and it was terrible fit and finish. The exhaust tips looked goofy big. Nice guys and great follow up but quality craftsmanship, no sir.

[GrandMarkie]

I am sorry but when I think quality I don't think AWE exhausts. Look at all the dents/ripples in the muffler especially above the logo to the left. That is hot metal from welding deforming. I got their exhaust on my C7 S6 and it was terrible fit and finish. The exhaust tips looked goofy big. Nice guys and great follow up but quality craftsmanship, no sir.

Agreed 100%. When I think quality, i think Capristo, Tubi, etc. The AWE exhaust looks so-so and those tips are a tad overboard for such a small car, looks like autozone tips.

[will13k7]

-1.2 in the front (as negative as they could get it), -0.8 in the rear. Love how left and right match exactly. If parts become available to allow me to run more negative camber up front, I'll realign. Probably to -1.5 front, -1.1 or -1.3 rear, depending how I like the .4 difference between front/rear right now.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5763/21653731590_183a842b90_h.jpg
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[markn1689]

tips 2 big[drive]enjoy

[will13k7]

tips 2 big[drive]enjoy

haha, thanks. I am definitely enjoying the S3... I think I like it better than the S4 [o_o].

I guess I shouldn't have posted this picture that exaggerates the tips:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/667/21338592776_e27309991c_b.jpg

In person, and in this pix below, they really don't look crazy big (to me at least):

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/649/21073933195_32491c4bca_o.jpg

I do have smaller tips on the S4, I thought I have a little more fun with the 3 (lower, louder, and bigger tips).

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/774/21551060508_b6293dab2a_k.jpg

[zcspec]

I can definitely appreciate an Audi modded correctly the first time around. Very well done with the aftermarket parts as your S3 looks fabulous. My brother just picked up one as well and cannot wait until he's back from deployment in 2 weeks to start modding the car. He choose against the EDC as he knew that we would be installing the PSS line shortly afterward. Keep your post updated as we'd like to stay abreast on your modding journey. Cheers!

[will13k7]

After sending KW the suspension error codes they asked for me to measure the resistance of my OEM Dampers. The resistance was 1.4 ohms. It danced a little between 1.4, 1.5, and 1.6, but looked to settle on 1.4. I measured all four, they all were the same.

After reviewing the codes and the resistance values, KW suspects the ride height sensors on the front and rear may not be leveled:

"...The(y) should be at or close to parallel with the road at ride height, and depending on the amount you have lowered the vehicle, they may exceed the ECU’s 'usable range' during the hard maneuvering which in turn triggers the fault light and re-engages the traction control..."

Sounds like a reasonable explanation, I'm going to check it out when I get a chance!

[phillyquattro]

After reviewing the codes and the resistance values, KW suspects the ride height sensors on the front and rear may not be leveled:

"...The(y) should be at or close to parallel with the road at ride height, and depending on the amount you have lowered the vehicle, they may exceed the ECU’s 'usable range' during the hard maneuvering which in turn triggers the fault light and re-engages the traction control..."

Sounds like a reasonable explanation, I'm going to check it out when I get a chance!

Are the sensors adjustable so that if they are in fact too low, you'd be able to raise them a touch?

[will13k7]

Are the sensors adjustable so that if they are in fact too low, you'd be able to raise them a touch?

It doesn't look adjustable, but it looks like we could get a part fabricated or even just modify the existing part if we had to.

[will13k7]

if they should be somewhat parallel with the road, they are way off now, pointing too much upward! I think its the green part, this is from the front:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/685/22454610631_56183e7de1_b.jpg
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[will13k7]

rear looks pretty decent:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/624/22430659402_35fc1052a3_c.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/711/22454853591_97e4a6eb06_c.jpg

Looking into what I can do about the height sensors.

[markn1689]

the big tips are growing on me... (no pun intended)

whats up with that APR crimped hose intake deal?

[will13k7]

the big tips are growing on me... (no pun intended)
have to see them in person for sure.


whats up with that APR crimped hose intake deal?
The coolant hose?

[markn1689]

The coolant hose?

yes. bad apr design. did they forget there is a coolant hose there? APR......DERRRRP

[markn1689]

unacceptable lazy sweet tea drinking APR bastards.

only caring about money. dont forget that TCU fiasco

[markn1689]

APR drinks another sweet tea and ANOTHER APR tuned 8v blows up
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7307794-Engine-destroyed-3-days-after-15k-service
[poop]apr

[S3Danny]

APR drinks another sweet tea and ANOTHER APR tuned 8v blows up
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7307794-Engine-destroyed-3-days-after-15k-service
[poop]apr



Maybe I missed something but that sounds like he cracked his oil pan and then continued driving. Nothing to do with a tune.

[phillyquattro]

Thanks for the updates on the height sensors. Definitely interested in how that pans out for you as I'm about to take delivery in a couple weeks and really on the fence in regards to buying coilovers now or just wait it out a bit and hope someone comes up with a fix in the near future. [confused]

[Benji00]

I've had the B14s on for about 2 weeks with the KW delete kit and have had 0 issues. This isn't groundbreaking data as it sounds like some folks have issues and others don't.

Just wanted to throw that out there!....need to pick up some spacers so I can look even more like Will!

[will13k7]

I've had the B14s on for about 2 weeks with the KW delete kit and have had 0 issues.
Hey Benji00, how low did you go? I'm thinking I went just a tad too low which put the height sensors out of range, and if I raise it a little, it will stop throwing codes. I can get it to consistently throw codes taking a loop ramp around 45mph. Once in awhile from hard braking.

[Benji00]

Hey Benji00, how low did you go? I'm thinking I went just a tad too low which put the height sensors out of range, and if I raise it a little, it will stop throwing codes. I can get it to consistently throw codes taking a loop ramp around 45mph. Once in awhile from hard braking.

It's a modest drop that I'm still dialing in. Currently at 25.5" from fender to ground on all 4 corners....I'm guessing you're lower?

[phillyquattro]

Thanks for the additional info Benji. Where did you source your B14s from?

[Benji00]

Thanks for the additional info Benji. Where did you source your B14s from?
No Problem!
Sean at Tag MotorSports

[will13k7]

Currently at 25.5" from fender to ground on all 4 corners....I'm guessing you're lower?

Thanks! Mine's a little lower:

25 1/16" front 25 3/8" rear.

[phillyquattro]

Have you resolved the delete kit issues with throwing errors? Just curious as I just lowered my car today and it took me all of 10 miles before throwing my first suspension error. LOL. I don't have a tape measure on me so I can't give a precise measurement at the moment but I'll get one tomorrow.

[will13k7]

Have you resolved the delete kit issues with throwing errors? Just curious as I just lowered my car today and it took me all of 10 miles before throwing my first suspension error. LOL. I don't have a tape measure on me so I can't give a precise measurement at the moment but I'll get one tomorrow.

[down] that sucks. 034 has been acting like the middle man between me and KW, but KW hasn't responded when asked about what to do with the height sensors, and I haven't bugged 034 about it lately. I think we need a way to disable the height-sensors or some company to fabricate shorter bars that connect to the height-sensors.

It looks like 034 did your install too, maybe you can bug them now? [;)]

You're not too far from me, if you like I can pull codes if you don't have access to a vagcom.

[phillyquattro]

[down] that sucks. 034 has been acting like the middle man between me and KW, but KW hasn't responded when asked about what to do with the height sensors, and I haven't bugged 034 about it lately. I think we need a way to disable the height-sensors or some company to fabricate shorter bars that connect to the height-sensors.

It looks like 034 did your install too, maybe you can bug them now? [;)]

You're not too far from me, if you like I can pull codes if you don't have access to a vagcom.

Yea I'll be sure to bring it up with them tomorrow when I bring the car in for the remaining parts that are getting installed. I'm going to have it raised up a bit but I likely won't do that until I take it to the alignment shop on Wednesday as I'm hoping my wheels arrive by then.

I don't have access to vagcom/vcds and would certainly appreciate some help in that regard. I live in SF, work in the South Bay, and would be down to meet up whenever. There's talk of doing a group drive on Dec. 12th (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/650618-Bay-Area-drive/page7) if you're interested. Still waiting on a destination suggestion though.

[will13k7]

Wow, a lot stronger than I was expecting, this will definitely protect that plastic oil pan.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5756/23376536881_7a1a16df0d_b.jpg

[phillyquattro]

That's a good first response to hear. I might need to pick one of these up before the winter trips to Tahoe start. Post up info on the install process once you've completed it. Looks straight forward and simple but would love to hear real person feedback.

[will13k7]

Super excited about the new goodie list:

- APR MQB Intercooler System
- APR Silicone Full Boost Hose Kit
- APR Carbon Fiber Turbo Inlet Pipe
- APR Turbo Muffler Delete
- AWE Tuning Resonated Downpipe

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5696/23891446311_51da42acee_o.png

All should arrive and get installed in January. Then probably after a few months go by, I'll probably just go with APR's Stage 2 91 octane tune, even though I wish they had program switching like they do with my B8 S4.

I've had nothing but great experiences with APR products, so no reason to stray.

[jshwon]

Super excited about the new goodie list:

- APR MQB Intercooler System
- APR Silicone Full Boost Hose Kit
- APR Carbon Fiber Turbo Inlet Pipe
- APR Turbo Muffler Delete
- AWE Tuning Resonated Downpipe

All should arrive and get installed in January. Then probably after a few months go by, I'll probably just go with APR's Stage 2 91 octane tune, even though I wish they had program switching like they do with my B8 S4.

I've had nothing but great experiences with APR products, so no reason to stray.

Stage 3 is very tempting, but this car is my commuter (1.5-2 hours a day) and I'm a bit weary about the reliability of stage 3 long term.
This sounds like a pack of fun in the mail. Let us know how it all goes. I assume you have the APR tune? Do you have the DSG tune as well? Thinking about APR or Unitronic but leaning APR. I really want the program switching as well since I had it before too. I posted on another forum about the switching and Arin replied they still plan to do it. Guessing it's not top priority with all the stg3 development that has been going on. He's also said once it's available it would be $150 to add the switching.

[will13k7]

Do you have the DSG tune as well?
I skipped it for the S4 and I'm probably skipping it for the S3 too.

[jshwon]

Gotcha. I heard that the dsg tune increases clamping force of the clutch to compensate for the additional torque. I could be wrong though. That and the regearing for optimal shift points have me interested. As far as the program switching my interest is in being able to put it back to stock for dealer visits. Not a guarantee but raises fewer eyebrows.

[will13k7]

Gotcha. I heard that the dsg tune increases clamping force of the clutch to compensate for the additional torque. I could be wrong though. That and the regearing for optimal shift points have me interested.

I think that's correct, I'm just not sure that its needed unless your trying to eek out tenths of seconds on the quarter mile. If I feel/hear the clutches slipping, then I'll probably get the tcu tune though.

[Benji00]

Love it man.....I'd say go straight to stage 2 since you've got more than enough hardware coming in to support it ;)

[coolwater]

Ride height looks perfect! Curious what they will charge for the intercooler install. Looks very labor intensive...

-cW

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

[jshwon]

Will I see early on you swapped the rear spacers from 17.5 to 10 due to under steer. Did you consider pushing out the fronts to 15 to balance it out? I ask as I see a few guys running 15/17.5. Would it have not been enough clearance?

[will13k7]

Will I see early on you swapped the rear spacers from 17.5 to 10 due to under steer. Did you consider pushing out the fronts to 15 to balance it out? I ask as I see a few guys running 15/17.5. Would it have not been enough clearance?

Hi! ECS said they found that more than 10mm in the front rubbed once in awhile (I think at stock height), and I planned to go pretty low, so I left well enough alone. Looks nice enough for me [:)]

[lamchop]

So at your ride height right now, you don't rub at all? I love your ride height, that is what I am going to aim for.

[will13k7]

So at your ride height right now, you don't rub at all?

Yes, to my surprise, no rubbing at all, not even once. So happy about this!

[markn1689]

did you tint the rear tail lights?

[will13k7]

did you tint the rear tail lights?

No Sir, just a bad photo above.

[will13k7]

All the hardware is in now and DP is @ 034, just need to schedule a visit for instillation, I kind of doubt all of it will be done in one day, so maybe two visits are needed.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1635/24586987621_daa54aea78_k.jpg
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[phillyquattro]

All the hardware is in now and DP is @ 034, just need to schedule a visit for instillation, I kind of doubt all of it will be done in one day, so maybe two visits are needed.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1635/24586987621_daa54aea78_k.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1480/24052349314_587d3b70b5_k.jpg

Looking good! I was thinking about doing a BBK upgrade but now I'm actually leaning more towards just upgrading the rotors, pads, lines and spending the extra loot I "save" on an intercooler.

[will13k7]

Looking good! I was thinking about doing a BBK upgrade but now I'm actually leaning more towards just upgrading the rotors, pads, lines and spending the extra loot I "save" on an intercooler.

Thanks man! I noticed a significant difference of power, especially off the line, between summer and winter, this and the fact GAIC's stage2 requires an intercooler pushed me to get it. I'm hoping come summer the car won't feel a whole lot slower. BBK's do look great though! [:D][:p] ... and that pedal feel... (just making your decision harder haha.)

[will13k7]

telescoping sun visor from the 2016's FTMFW!

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1483/24982637155_8ab5efa38e_c.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1664/24889278911_65966c38d2_c.jpg
[wrench]

5 minute install, perfect color/style match can't even tell its different unless you use the telescoping feature.

[will13k7]

The intercooler, boost pipe kit, turbo inlet pipe, and turbo muffler delete just went on.

No boost leaks, very happy about the install!

With the windows up and under full boost, I can hear a little bit of turbo spool now. It also sounds great with the windows down. Can't really tell the intercooler is installed right now, I can see a little bit of its outline when I peek beyond the front grill. The stock intercooler weights about a third of the APR one, crazy difference.

Intake looks complete now:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1480/25099556025_9a8f5c7a3a_c.jpg

Saw a nice B8.5 S4 with HRE wheels while I was at the shop:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1563/25472720900_4e87d4fa50_k.jpg

Downpipe and skidplate goes on tomorrow.

[phillyquattro]

Looking good dude! I had no idea the 2015s didn't have the telescoping sun visors. Those things are a necessity!

[949]

telescoping sun visor from the 2016's FTMFW!

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1483/24982637155_8ab5efa38e_c.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1664/24889278911_65966c38d2_c.jpg
[wrench]

5 minute install, perfect color/style match can't even tell its different unless you use the telescoping feature.

I was looking into this myself, whats the part number and how much?

[will13k7]

I had no idea the 2015s didn't have the telescoping sun visors. Those things are a necessity!
For sure! It was the most annoying thing about the S3, now I'm finally comfortable on my commute where the sun was previously hitting the corner of my eye.


I was looking into this myself, whats the part number and how much?

Here's the drivers-side, really the only one you need (Part#8W0857551B7C0):
https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2955394/

[will13k7]

[facepalm] forgot to bring the hardware for the skidplate today.

[will13k7]

DP is installed now, no CEL, it's about 20-30% louder under load, not much louder when cruising on the freeway or city roads. No annoying drone, the DSG Fart is even better now, probably obnoxious to non-car-folk, but I love it. Since I went the resonated DP route, there was no increase in rasp, its just louder.

My butt dyno says it feels a tad faster now too, as it should.

This weekend I'm going to create an exhaust video since I didn't see any videos for a resonated and catted AWE turbo back for a S3, I want to get a tunnel run recorded too.
[race]

Probably going to let things settle in for a few weeks, then get a stage2 tune.

[will13k7]

one other thing I noticed about the DP, now its more noticeable when the exhuast flaps open. [evilsmile]

AWE:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1631/25025880291_20375e7787_k.jpg
OEM:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/454/18440868705_4e43343be4_k.jpg

[phillyquattro]

So sick! Can't wait to hear that video.

[ECP]

one other thing I noticed about the DP, now its more noticeable when the exhuast flaps open. [evilsmile]
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1631/25025880291_20375e7787_k.jpg

Looking good. Millitek dp?

[949]

is this a warranty breaker?

[markn1689]

is this a warranty breaker?

oh yeah. you will have to remove this pipe and return to stock every time you visit the dealer. unless you want your warranty stamped with the BAN hammer

[Korben007]

TD1 status

Rory - Audi Customization Specialist

[markn1689]

a spy is among us!

[949]

they will still td1 even if it doesnt throw a code?

[phillyquattro]

oh yeah. you will have to remove this pipe and return to stock every time you visit the dealer. unless you want your warranty stamped with the BAN hammer


TD1 status

So the warranty will no longer cover his OEM DP...no big deal here seeing as he's replaced it and his new one has a warranty from AWE. Removing the pipe every time he goes to the dealer? LOL! You guys are nuts, do some reading on Magnuson-Moss Act before you run around ranting about voided warranties, TD1s, and other absurdities. They can only void the warranty on the part you've replaced. They can attempt to blame the aftermarket part in any other warranty claims but the onus is on the dealership/Audi to prove without doubt that the aftermarket part is responsible for any failures. So for example let's say the manifold cracks. They would have to prove that the DP is the reason that the manifold broke. Good luck to them on proving that. This is why most bolt on parts are pretty safe upgrades (note I said "pretty safe"). You don't really start to endanger your warranty much until you start modifying software (ECU, TCU, Haldex controllers, etc).

Also, this is an enthusiast forum...everyone here should be aware that it's pay to play.

[will13k7]

Looking good. Millitek dp?
thanks! AWE resonated.


pay to play.
yep, I've been lucky so far. hopefully that luck continues with the S3!

[will13k7]

Cold start + a few revs (use some headphones or speakers with good bass)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmfR6OqdyDQ&feature=youtu.be

[will13k7]

light-ish throttle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMQaqFM0jHY

audio level is kind of low in these, but you can hook your device up to some external speakers and get the volume level more normal. I need to figure out how to make the mic more sensitive on the gopro session.

[markn1689]

nice dsg farts

[949]

I'm still confused on how a down pipe will give you a td1? it shouldn't throw a code or a cell.

[will13k7]

I'm still confused on how a down pipe will give you a td1?

its not an automatic TD1, it would be a manual TD1 a tech would have to enter, just like they would for intake.

[949]

its not an automatic TD1, it would be a manual TD1 a tech would have to enter, just like they would for intake.

my service guy says if its not throwing a code (because of an ecu change) there is no td1. the td1 is only associated with computer programs in the ecu. is he wrong in telling me this?

are there someone who has been manually td1 because of hardware like dp , exhaust, or suspension changes? cause this will make me change my next step.

[will13k7]

my service guy says if its not throwing a code (because of an ecu change) there is no td1. the td1 is only associated with computer programs in the ecu. is he wrong in telling me this?

are there someone who has been manually td1 because of hardware like dp , exhaust, or suspension changes? cause this will make me change my next step.

Doesn't sound like he's fully informed. Here's the skinny (second page talks about intakes, etc...):

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1470/25071088690_587760a438_o.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1710/25340479916_24c0ac801e_o.jpg

From what I read, your Audi tech would have to be pretty up tight to add a td1 manually (or you have to piss them off), but they can, and are supposed to. no known reports of this yet though.

[JohnnyUtah787]

Doesn't sound like he's fully informed. Here's the skinny (second page talks about intakes, etc...):

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1470/25071088690_587760a438_o.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1710/25340479916_24c0ac801e_o.jpg

From what I read, your Audi tech would have to be pretty up tight to add a td1 manually (or you have to piss them off), but they can, and are supposed to. no known reports of this yet though.

Better have a good relationship with your Audi service professional then haha.

[will13k7]

Stage2 & TCU Flashed, damn, it's fast now. [evilsmile]
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1444/25425689956_8abb2bae14_b.jpg

.... videos this weekend.

[coolwater]

Stage2 & TCU Flashed, damn, it's fast now. [evilsmile]
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1444/25425689956_8abb2bae14_b.jpg

.... videos this weekend.
Nice! Welcome to the stage 2 club!

-cW

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

[roadrunner_oz]

Cold start + a few revs (use some headphones or speakers with good bass)


Nice sound!

[will13k7]

Nice! Welcome to the stage 2 club!

Nice sound!

Thanks fellas!

Stage2 is so f@cking fun!

The DSG farts got loud with the DP, then after the ECU/TCU tune, they sound more like a firecracker going off, and the overall sound profile of the exhaust/engine changed for the better. This, combined with the added turbo-spool-sound (more-boost + turbo-muffler-delete), makes it a riot going through a tunnel or under an overpass.

[will13k7]

Stage2+TCU Tune clip, light to half throttle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXrlFeEHWlQ&feature=youtu.be

[Alloy07]

Sounds great, listened with headsets, sound seems deeper with stage II. Really like the freeway on ramp video's.

[will13k7]

Sounds great, listened with headsets, sound seems deeper with stage II.

Thanks man! I think it did get deeper and more refined sounding, I noticed a difference in sound right after the flash.

[Blaine]

they will still td1 even if it doesnt throw a code?


So the warranty will no longer cover his OEM DP...no big deal here seeing as he's replaced it and his new one has a warranty from AWE. Removing the pipe every time he goes to the dealer? LOL! You guys are nuts, do some reading on Magnuson-Moss Act before you run around ranting about voided warranties, TD1s, and other absurdities. They can only void the warranty on the part you've replaced. They can attempt to blame the aftermarket part in any other warranty claims but the onus is on the dealership/Audi to prove without doubt that the aftermarket part is responsible for any failures. So for example let's say the manifold cracks. They would have to prove that the DP is the reason that the manifold broke. Good luck to them on proving that. This is why most bolt on parts are pretty safe upgrades (note I said "pretty safe"). You don't really start to endanger your warranty much until you start modifying software (ECU, TCU, Haldex controllers, etc).

Also, this is an enthusiast forum...everyone here should be aware that it's pay to play.


Lol. I never cared for any warranty from any Brand Car company. I've been screwed over enough by dealers that I don't even bother taking my cars to the dealer anymore. Sure under the Magnuson-Moss Act the dealer has to prove the after market part caused the issue.. but guess what? Do you have the $$ for the lawyers to fight the dealer? or to fight the Car Company? They know that and will drop your warranty claim in a heart beat since most people don't have the big $$ for the long fight against them. Proving the aftermarket part you installed didn't break your car is on YOU and YOUR paid for lawyers. They have lawyers on their payroll that will fight you for YEARS until you just give up. Its 10x cheaper just to fix it yourself. [headbang]

My 2003 Cobra had bad heads from the Factory due to a cooling defect (aka head tick). They actually revised the heads to fix the issue in 2004 and had a TSB on it. I brought the head problem to the dealer since it was bad and there was a TSB on it and the car was making noise. The dealer flagged my car due to a CAT BACK EXHAUST!!! And then had the balls to tell me the fix would be on me for $3,200 IF it was indeed ONLY the heads. Took my car to a performance shop eventually after I saved for new revised heads and a MMR 1000 block instead since it was coming apart. It ended up one of the pistons lost a chunk where it attached to rod due to defective piston from the factory. Yep my Cat back caused that one for sure. [facepalm]

In 2002 Trans AM WS6 another dealer voided my warranty due to Lower Control Arms, Intake, and a Cat back exhaust after I had a piston go thru the block. They stated the car "was used for racing" due to the parts on it. They send out specialists who look at BIG $$ claims to FIND an ExCUSE to void your warranties

These incidents all happened when I was YOUNG and broke going through college. No $$ or chance to fight them on it. I've never bought a new Ford or Chevy since then or bothered with a dealer. My Audi is the first new car I've bought since and I don't plan for it to EVER see the inside of a dealer after it hits 5k miles and any parts go on it. Now that I have money I keep it from them in anyway I can.


Better have a good relationship with your Audi service professional then haha.

And if you do mod... ^ Even then the dealer may say its Ok... but when something big $$ needs replaced you just don't know. I don't know how bad Audi is, but its a Company wanting to make $$ as priority #1 as all the others.

Great build and write up. Can't wait to get the stage 2 on mine later this year. I'm definitely going with the AWE Exhaust and Resonated DP as well.

[Blaine]

Not saying all dealers are bad, but I've had experience with some bad ones. Really bad ones. But I'm also sure it has to do with what mechanic is working on your car at the time. Is he cool with mods or does he have a 'stick up his butt' and will go out of the way to TD1 your car. Everyone has 'THAT' kind of guy at your work...

[will13k7]

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[949]

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does this have spacers?
springs or coilovers?

[will13k7]

does this have spacers?
springs or coilovers?

10mm spacers all around and coilovers. FTG is 25 1/16" front and 25 3/16" rear.

[jshwon]

Sorry if I messed it but did you give up on the KW and delete kit solution? Noticed you're running springs now. I have H&R sports sitting in my garage waiting to go on. I have mag ride too. Will be getting a tune in a couple of weeks myself and was leaning UM/Uni but every time I see a APR video I'm torn all over again. [evilsmile]

[phillyquattro]

Sorry if I messed it but did you give up on the KW and delete kit solution? Noticed you're running springs now. I have H&R sports sitting in my garage waiting to go on. I have mag ride too. Will be getting a tune in a couple of weeks myself and was leaning UM/Uni but every time I see a APR video I'm torn all over again. [evilsmile]

Will runs coilovers...as noted in the posted right before yours. That KW kit has not lived up to it's promises for myself or Will (as far as I'm aware still). I've just given up on it at this point and accepted that I'll throw a suspension error every time I drive the car.

[will13k7]

^^ yep, coilovers, and still getting beeped at when I push the car a little in the corners, otherwise no codes. That KW kit is a fail, it's not a complete solution, and I don't know what a complete solution would look like at this point since Philly had his front ride-height sensor link adjusted to get it back to stock height range and still got codes.

[will13k7]

Upcoming goodies:

- APR Boost Tap System
- SPULEN Throttle Pipe
- SPULEN Turbo Outlet Pipe
- HKS SQV4 Blow Off Valve
- 034 MOTORSPORT Rear Sway Bar
- 034 MOTORSPORT Front/Rear End Links
- 034 MOTORSPORT Rear Subframe Inserts

I know a BOV isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I'm looking to have a little fun, if it gets to be too much, I'll take it off.

[A20V200]

Congrats on Stage II....it is a blast for sure.

Make sure you have all your clamps on your charge pipes tightened down...I had my lower outlet charge pipe clamp pop off = The Suck!!!

[phillyquattro]

Congrats on Stage II....it is a blast for sure.

Make sure you have all your clamps on your charge pipes tightened down...I had my lower outlet charge pipe clamp pop off = The Suck!!!

I definitely recommend the sway and end link upgrades. Also highly recommend the Eurocode rear chassis brace. [up]

[will13k7]

I definitely recommend the sway and end link upgrades. Also highly recommend the Eurocode rear chassis brace. [up]

Is your neuspeed RSB still set on the "softer" setting? Keeping it there? I think I might try softer first too, but going to talk to 034 about it. I don't want it tail happy, but some more oversteer would be nice.

That rear chassis brace looks nice too, probably going to get it some time in the future. Also if EC would make a tunnel brace for the S3 or if Unibrace actually made one specifically just for the S3.

[phillyquattro]

Is your neuspeed RSB still set on the "softer" setting? Keeping it there? I think I might try softer first too, but going to talk to 034 about it. I don't want it tail happy, but some more oversteer would be nice.

That rear chassis brace looks nice too, probably going to get it some time in the future. Also if EC would make a tunnel brace for the S3 or if Unibrace actually made one specifically just for the S3.

Still on the softer setting for now. I have a track event at Laguna the second week of April so I'm going to use that as a measuring stick on whether or not I want to change it to the stiffer setting or not. Figured it would be good to have a comparison point first before making adjustments.

[JohnnyUtah787]

Is your neuspeed RSB still set on the "softer" setting? Keeping it there? I think I might try softer first too, but going to talk to 034 about it. I don't want it tail happy, but some more oversteer would be nice.

That rear chassis brace looks nice too, probably going to get it some time in the future. Also if EC would make a tunnel brace for the S3 or if Unibrace actually made one specifically just for the S3.


Still on the softer setting for now. I have a track event at Laguna the second week of April so I'm going to use that as a measuring stick on whether or not I want to change it to the stiffer setting or not. Figured it would be good to have a comparison point first before making adjustments.

What do you guys think of the Neuspeed RSB? Was going to get one, but then was informed that 034 and ED are releasing versions soon so I may wait and see.

[will13k7]

... but then was informed that 034 and ED are releasing versions soon so I may wait and see.

I'm actually getting the 034 one, I'm taking part in their Early Adopter Program. 034's sway bar philosophy is a little different than others, they like more oversteer, and believe the front sway bar is stiff enough, so they design their RSB to work with the factory FSB the best, where others design their RSB to work with their FSB the best. It is going to be fun to try it 034 style!

[race]

[JohnnyUtah787]

I'm actually getting the 034 one, I'm taking part in their Early Adopter Program. 034's sway bar philosophy is a little different than others, they like more oversteer, and believe the front sway bar is stiff enough, so they design their RSB to work with the factory FSB the best, where others design their RSB to work with their FSB the best. It is going to be fun to try it 034 style!

[race]

Have you been happy with the Neuspeed one though? If so, I'd consider buying your used one. I may not be patient enough for 034's release haha. FWIW, the one from ED is also supposed to match best with the stock FSB.

[will13k7]

Have you been happy with the Neuspeed one though?

Philly has the Neuspeed one, I'm still on OEM sways right now. He had positive things to say about the Neuspeed ones in his build thread though.

[JohnnyUtah787]

Is your neuspeed RSB still set on the "softer" setting? Keeping it there? I think I might try softer first too, but going to talk to 034 about it. I don't want it tail happy, but some more oversteer would be nice.

That rear chassis brace looks nice too, probably going to get it some time in the future. Also if EC would make a tunnel brace for the S3 or if Unibrace actually made one specifically just for the S3.


Still on the softer setting for now. I have a track event at Laguna the second week of April so I'm going to use that as a measuring stick on whether or not I want to change it to the stiffer setting or not. Figured it would be good to have a comparison point first before making adjustments.


Philly has the Neuspeed one, I'm still on OEM sways right now. He had positive things to say about the Neuspeed ones in his build thread though.

My bad, I misread your post. Let me know what you think of the 034 one when you get it. Definitely interested and wish I was fortunate enough to get into the early adopters group.

[will13k7]

No worries man, I can see how I was a bit vague! I'll be sure to report back when I'm allowed to share.

[Metrshr]

Hey will:

Got any video's of the APR intake from the front? Idle, light revving, blipping throttle?

Thanks
Kevin

[will13k7]

Got any video's of the APR intake from the front? Idle, light revving, blipping throttle?

Hey Kevin, you have great timing, I just finished cleaning my engine bay up a little, so I took a quick video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUo1kNdUmIA&feature=youtu.be

[Metrshr]

Thanks Will. I do like the sound but not sure spending $500+ on an intake with minimal gains in power. Can you feel any increase in power or is it just a noise maker?

Thanks
Kevin

[will13k7]

Thanks Will. Can you feel any increase in power or is it just a noise maker?

sure thing. when I put the intake on the car, it was otherwise stock, and the power increase wasn't really noticeable. my butt dyno noticed the power bump after installing the DP, but the intake power bump wasn't enough. APR's site says an intake is needed to get the advertised power gain out of stage2 though. I'm guessing I would notice the difference if I took it off while my car is stage2.

[will13k7]

boost tap kit for the BOV:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1629/25557270834_fce6335b44_k.jpg

[will13k7]

SPULEN/HKS Blow Off Valve Kit:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1523/25574804274_053a7df555_k.jpg
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[will13k7]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1669/26115018291_4c06583e17_k.jpg

[will13k7]

Last piece to the boost path puzzle, a throttle pipe:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1478/26239836722_ca34ad227a_h.jpg

The quality of the Spulen products is impressive.

[markn1689]

blow off valve is def not for me but i am interesting in hearing what it sounds like. post up vids when u can

[will13k7]

blow off valve is def not for me but i am interesting in hearing what it sounds like. post up vids when u can

Will do, it will be a riot for sure. expecting to see some folks look and say "wtf was that sound?".

[will13k7]

all the parts are in, now to get them installed![drool]
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[949]

where are you getting the 034-601-0032 billet rear subframe mount instert?
034motorsport doesn't show that item.

[will13k7]

where are you getting the billet rear subframe mount insert?

034's Early Adopter Program. I'll share more info when I get the go ahead. I'm hoping they can install everything this or next week, we'll see, they are always so busy.

[949]

oh nice. I would like to get one of the rear ones as the front one is awesome. any info on the engine mounts? I do like the look of the BFI versions, obviously they work so I wont need to comment on the functions of the BFI ones. the looks would be a plus if they are aluminum from 034motorsports.

[will13k7]

any info on the engine mounts?
I'm thinking about getting engine mounts too and will ask them about it when I'm there.

[949]

where is the installation of the rear subframe going to be at? I want to get one.

do you have better pics of the item

[will13k7]

where is the installation of the rear subframe going to be at? I want to get one.

do you have better pics of the item

034's service department is my installer. I don't think I can share a detailed picture. [:/] Hit up Laszlo for more info, he might share more?

[949]

did they say when they are going to release it? I did find an out of the country vendor selling the item already. UK I believe.

[will13k7]

did they say when they are going to release it?

can't share target release dates either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, sorry about the tease. [:/]

[will13k7]

installation day!
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[will13k7]

For the throttle pipe this fitting was too large for the S3 throttle body (the larger side):
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7793/26705582520_ab17299f16_b.jpg

034 tried to clamp it down tight, but it blew right off under boost. luckily they had a fitting that fit and used that instead. I'll give feedback to USP. Maybe this one works great with the golf r, but not the s3?

no boost leaks, and the BOV sound is funny loud with the windows down, you can hear a little with the windows up, and the radio will drown out the sound. This should hold the boost better than the stock diverter valve. Spulen/USP say with all the boost pipes the turbo lag is reduced a little, and it does seem like power comes on just a tad sooner now.

The 034 goodies are great, the car feels much more planted and less squishy with no added NVH. I'll put it through it paces this weekend and get a video of the BOV.

[phillyquattro]

For the throttle pipe this fitting was too large for the S3 throttle body (the larger side):
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7793/26705582520_ab17299f16_b.jpg

034 tried to clamp it down tight, but it blew right off under boost. luckily they had a fitting that fit and used that instead. I'll give feedback to USP. Maybe this one works great with the golf r, but not the s3?

Good to know as I was considering picking one up. Maybe I'll wait a bit and let them get it sorted out first. I'm also getting the rear strut mounts installed tomorrow. :-)

[will13k7]

I'm also getting the rear strut mounts installed tomorrow. :-)
^^ Nice!

The boost tap and BOV installed:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7481/26374773184_7f7e6f01ec_b.jpg

[TCHUN003]

^^ Nice!

The boost tap and BOV installed:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7481/26374773184_7f7e6f01ec_b.jpg

Looks like your car is coming along nicely! I'm curious as to how the hks BOV sounds. I ended up going with the CTS unit and I love it :)

[will13k7]

Looks like your car is coming along nicely!
thanks! everything is working great too, well... except the mag-ride delete kit. [facepalm]

[will13k7]

Awhile ago I was thinking of just getting coilovers and alignment, and it was a nice combo, don't get me wrong, the car felt balanced, and the tires would break traction around the same time giving you a little four wheel slide.

Now that I have the rear sway bar (set to the stiffest setting) and end-links all around on, I think the fun factor has been turned up a notch. The car feels more planted and its now the rear tires that break traction first. I'm no Randy Pobst, but I'd say it's at least a +1 on oversteer now.

Best of all, my minor fear about increased harshness on the crappy CA roads didn't materialize.

I'm looking forward to when there are some front camber plates that work with the PSS10's so I can get more negative camber up front and then increase the rear negative camber to slightly-less than the front. I think that will put it near its full potential on street tires then.

[will13k7]

canyon run @ mount hamilton
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[will13k7]

some bov sounds (parden the wind noise, camera was mounted outside)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvZA7JA93M

[will13k7]

the rear of the car had all these black spots, they looked like paint chips, turned out to be road gunk, a clay bar got it all off.
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[Josh/AWE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZgcY6xUJVA

[Pilfer]

the rear of the car had all these backs spots, they looked like paint chips, turned out to be road gunk, a clay bar got it all off.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7397/26577066864_66a6898849_k.jpg

sup?

almost ordered a SP AWE on Saturday lol. Golf is so quiet it needs it. Might get one of those rear sway bars too...

[will13k7]

sup?

sup pilf. [in ice cube gangsta voice]


almost ordered a SP AWE on Saturday lol. Might get one of those rear sway bars too...
yes and yes! they recommend resonated for the exhuast on R's if your drone adverse. Are you on vwvortex yet? [evilsmile]


Golf is so quiet it needs it.
I think after a week of driving the s3 stock, I realized it's pretty boring being so quiet!

[Pilfer]

sup pilf. [in ice cube gangsta voice]


yes and yes! they recommend resonated for the exhuast on R's if your drone adverse. Are you on vwvortex yet? [evilsmile]


I think after a week of driving the s3 stock, I realized it's pretty boring being so quiet!

just joined but I need approval or clearance before I'm a real member. Damn, I didn't think there was a resonated downpipe for the switchpath system[:(]. I don't see how there can be much drone, the drone in the S4 was because of driving in auto and accelerating in D on the freeway etc. This car only has 6 speeds and the RPM's are always higher than the S4, I'm surprised it gets as decent mileage as it does lol. I basically get the same mileage in all my cars [evilsmile]

[will13k7]

just joined but I need approval or clearance before I'm a real member. Damn, I didn't think there was a resonated downpipe for the switchpath system[:(]. I don't see how there can be much drone, the drone in the S4 was because of driving in auto and accelerating in D on the freeway etc. This car only has 6 speeds and the RPM's are always higher than the S4, I'm surprised it gets as decent mileage as it does lol. I basically get the same mileage in all my cars [evilsmile]
with stock DP it should be fine, just if you're going for a DP also, they recommend resonated, unless you like it really loud!

[Pilfer]

with stock DP it should be fine, just if you're going for a DP also, they recommend resonated, unless you like it really loud!

What do you have? Your car is very loud, drowned out the noise of my car almost on the first leg of our drive.

[kornsined]

Love the car and mods. Hitting the drag strip? Gotta be close to mid 11.

[will13k7]

What do you have? Your car is very loud, drowned out the noise of my car almost on the first leg of our drive.

It wasn't too loud until I got the DP, its the resonated one. So I guess it gets even more loud, and definitely more raspy with the non-resonated DP... and then there's non-catted non-resonated from other brands, that would be crazy raspy loud.

[will13k7]

Love the car and mods. Hitting the drag strip? Gotta be close to mid 11.

thanks man! maybe some day I'll hit the strip, no time right now. probably at least the high 11's, the car feels strong, even on 91. I think the only power adder left is stage3 or nos [>_<].

[Pilfer]

It wasn't too loud until I got the DP, its the resonated one. So I guess it gets even more loud, and definitely more raspy with the non-resonated DP... and then there's non-catted non-resonated from other brands, that would be crazy raspy loud.

But now the dd has become the race car lol.

[6ftThor]

Sweet car! I have the stage 1 complete but I am waiting for APRs DP to come out do that I get the stage 2 tune for free. With stage 1 I ran a 12.4 at 110mph


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[will13k7]

Sweet car! I have the stage 1 complete but I am waiting for APRs DP to come out do that I get the stage 2 tune for free.
Thanks! ... APR has a stage3 DP available [evilsmile][>_<]

[will13k7]

I've had some bad luck with the Conti 5p's, the left rear tire has had a slow leak for many months, and now the right rear got nipped near the edge and can't hold air. since summer tires don't last long (I'm at 12k miles), two of them are done for, and quattro, I'm replacing all four with Michelin Pilot Super Sport, same OEM specs. They get thrown on this weekend.

I also got a set of ecodes from one of the european ebay sites from a seemingly established car parts dealer, we'll see how it goes, I'm awaiting delivery. They come with the full electronics, but I might swap them anyways. I can't wait to throw these on, that orange reflector really kills it for glacier white metallic cars for me.

[coolwater]

I also got a set of ecodes from one of the european ebay sites from a seemingly established car parts dealer, we'll see how it goes, I'm awaiting delivery. They come with the full electronics, but I might swap them anyways. I can't wait to throw these on, that orange reflector really kills it for glacier white metallic cars for me.

Nice! How much did the ecodes run?

-cW

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[saxon]

Nice! How much did the ecodes run?

-cW

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you can get the xenon ones for about 800 shipped

[will13k7]

yes, lots more zenon ones available too. the led ones were hard to come by.

[phillyquattro]

Nice! I did the same thing regarding LED ecodes. Waiting on them to clear Customs. They didn't come with control units but the head tech at Audi Palo Alto said I could reuse the NA control units and he'd reprogram it for me.

[coolwater]

Too bad there isn't an easy way to convert xenon to full led.
At least Audi has started making the newer models without the ambers in the housing.

-cW

[will13k7]

a little meatier, still no rubbing! [:)]

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great grip, still not broken in yet either.

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I'll have to take some nice photos when I get the ecodes on.

[Lusky]

a little meatier, still no rubbing! [:)]

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great grip, still not broken in yet either.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7188/27141959463_e8796b3d9c_b.jpg

I'll have to take some nice photos when I get the ecodes on.

Very Nice! [:)]

[will13k7]

Very Nice! [:)]

thanks!

looks like it was too good to be true, I got it to rub in the rear under hard cornering on a bumpy road, probably need to raise 1/8 an inch all around to get back to completely rub-free aggressive driving with these new tires.

[Lusky]

thanks!

looks like it was too good to be true, I got it to rub in the rear under hard cornering on a bumpy road, probably need to raise 1/8 an inch all around to get back to completely rub-free aggressive driving with these new tires.

what is your fender to ground front and rear?

[will13k7]

what is your fender to ground front and rear?

25 1/16" front, 25 3/16" rear.

[Lusky]

25 1/16" front, 25 3/16" rear.

Thanks. I am 25-1/8 rear and 24-7/8 front and just test fitted. Was thinking of going 6mm spacers on my current 18x9 et48. Second option I am considering is new wheels still 18x9 just et45 now and 265/35 PS Cup tires. New wheels would be almost 4lbs ea lighter than my current AG's.

[will13k7]

Wow, that's low Lusky! I bet it looks good though!

In other news, these arrived much faster than expected:
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[drool]

[saxon]

they will look great!!

with my pss10 i am at 25" ftg all around and no rubbing with 235-35-19x8.5 +42 , i was hoping to run 5mm spacers and i dont think ill have any issues with a 245-35

[will13k7]

with my pss10 i am at 25" ftg all around and no rubbing with 235-35-19x8.5 +42 , i was hoping to run 5mm spacers and i dont think ill have any issues with a 245-35

nice! I can't believe I rubbed in the rear then, but those PSS's are tall and I'm at ET 39, but with only 8" wide wheels.

I'm going take the rear up a mm at a time until it stops rubbing, maybe I just need a mm or two more. (fingers crossed).

[phillyquattro]

Wow, that's low Lusky! I bet it looks good though!

In other news, these arrived much faster than expected:
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[drool]

Nice dude! Mine showed up last Friday (also faster than expected). Not sure when I'll get around to installing them...hopefully in the next few weeks. If you plan to install yourself and want to have a little "play date" let me know.

[Alloy07]

Tires look great ! headlights too !

[will13k7]

Mine showed up last Friday (also faster than expected). Not sure when I'll get around to installing them...hopefully in the next few weeks. If you plan to install yourself and want to have a little "play date" let me know.
Nice!

I started to take apart my car and realized the front bumper will probably need to come off to get to the bolt under the light housing. I was hoping it was as simple as three screws and one wire-clip per side to install them. oh well.

I was thinking a late fri or sat night after my kiddo goes to sleep, I'd be down for an install session. I'm a little nervous pulling the bumper off though, I sometimes end up breaking clips pulling stuff apart. need to do some reading up for this one. Maybe we can just pull a wheel off and the fender liner to get at that bolt!

[coolwater]

Nice! Good luck with the install.

-cW

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[magnessr]

what size are the new PSS tires? im not a fan of the slight stretch that stocks have, so plan to go with a 245/35 next.

car looks great.

[phillyquattro]

Nice!

I started to take apart my car and realized the front bumper will probably need to come off to get to the bolt under the light housing. I was hoping it was as simple as three screws and one wire-clip per side to install them. oh well.

I was thinking a late fri or sat night after my kiddo goes to sleep, I'd be down for an install session. I'm a little nervous pulling the bumper off though, I sometimes end up breaking clips pulling stuff apart. need to do some reading up for this one. Maybe we can just pull a wheel off and the fender liner to get at that bolt!

As far as I'm aware the bumper has to come completely off as the last screw you need access to is basically behind the front of the bumper. You shouldn't need to pull wheels or the fender lining to remove the bumper. I haven't removed the bumper on the S3 yet but based on the write ups it looks damn near identical to what was needed on the B8 platform...which is easy (about 20 mins worth of work). Few screws under the front of the car, few screws under the hood, and then turn your wheels in, pull back a portion of the liner and undo a single bolt on each side. Then it just kind of "peels" off. Don't believe there are any clips to worry about if you're not messing with the grille.

Anyways, I'd be down for a Saturday or Friday night install. Maybe we can knock out both cars. Fingers crossed the lights work and I'm able to drive home, LOL.

[will13k7]

what size are the new PSS tires? im not a fan of the slight stretch that stocks have, so plan to go with a 245/35 next.
car looks great.
Thanks! They are 235/35. Less stretch than the OEM Conti 5p's, and the tire wall is pretty much vertical with the PSS's, the Conti's had that weird bump in the middle.

[will13k7]

Few screws under the front of the car, few screws under the hood, and then turn your wheels in, pull back a portion of the liner and undo a single bolt on each side. Then it just kind of "peels" off.

Doesn't sound too bad.

I played around with the car a little more last night and tonight. With the turning of the wheel and peeling back of the liner method, you can get at one of the bumper cover screws pretty easily, but there are two more which are a biotch to get at.

I think I'm going to end up jacking one side up at a time, take the wheel off, all the screws, replace the tire, and repeat on the other side.

[phillyquattro]

Doesn't sound too bad.

I played around with the car a little more last night and tonight. With the turning of the wheel and peeling back of the liner method, you can get at one of the bumper cover screws pretty easily, but there are two more which are a biotch to get at.

I think I'm going to end up jacking one side up at a time, take the wheel off, all the screws, replace the tire, and repeat on the other side.

Sounds fair enough to me. I'm assuming you saw the guide Emmanuele Design wrote up on bumper removal (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/637679-Emmanuele-Design-l-DIY-Audi-8V-A3-S3-Front-Bumper-Removal-Guide)?

[forbiddenbeat]

Thanks! They are 235/35. Less stretch than the OEM Conti 5p's, and the tire wall is pretty much vertical with the PSS's, the Conti's had that weird bump in the middle.



Do you think running a 245/35 PSS on the stock rim would look odd? I'm not lowered, and was planning on doing that once the contis wear.

[will13k7]

I'm assuming you saw the guide Emmanuele Design wrote up on bumper removal (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/637679-Emmanuele-Design-l-DIY-Audi-8V-A3-S3-Front-Bumper-Removal-Guide)?

Yes, that one and there's one from USP (http://www.uspmotorsports.com/downloads/av-1006_7-II.pdf) and REVO (http://www.revotechnik.com/useruploads/images/pagecontent/documents/RV581M100100_-_Fitting_Instructions__8V_S3A3_.pdf).

I think it's less than a 2 hour job for the pros. I have a feeling it's going to take me closer to 4 hours.

[will13k7]

Do you think running a 245/35 PSS on the stock rim would look odd?
Not sure, that's in the minimum part of the range for 245/35 PSS's, 8-9.5". I would guess it looks somewhere between normal and meaty.

[will13k7]

sorry @phillyquattro, couldn't wait. not bad, about a 3 hour job.

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now she needs a bath and a photo shoot [:)]

[STICKY RICE]

I always tell myself that I'll never spend that much on lights but then I see S3's with newly installed e-codes and my resolve crumbles just a little. Looks great, will.

[Benji00]

Yesir! Now we're talking.

[TCHUN003]

Looks great! Good thing I saw this, I didn't know the washer fluid had to be drained when removing the front bumper.

[will13k7]

^^ Thanks Guys!


Good thing I saw this, I didn't know the washer fluid had to be drained when removing the front bumper.
you could cap it off quickly if you have one that fits, i didn't have one [:(]. I think that connection is for the headlight washers.

[phillyquattro]

sorry @phillyquattro, couldn't wait. not bad, about a 3 hour job.

LOL. No worries dude. If I had my own garage mine would be done by now too. Looking great and thanks for heads up on how long it should take me.


I always tell myself that I'll never spend that much on lights but then I see S3's with newly installed e-codes and my resolve crumbles just a little. Looks great, will.

I paid approx $750 (including shipping) for mine on ebay.de. Plenty of other people here have done the same. No need to be a maniac and buy new ones for the insane US mark up.

[oblique]

LOL. No worries dude. If I had my own garage mine would be done by now too. Looking great and thanks for heads up on how long it should take me.



I paid approx $750 (including shipping) for mine on ebay.de. Plenty of other people here have done the same. No need to be a maniac and buy new ones for the insane US mark up.

Wow that price is awesome. I switched to the LED e-codes on my A3 when I got in a black ice incident that scratched my oem housing pretty bad.
So I figured with the insurance claim that would be a good time to switch, but the mark up was crazy as you said. Tagmotorsports had them for around $1795 plus shipping (which they are more now).
But since my insurance company only prorated me the price of one LED headlight housing (instead of the full price of a new one around $1600) I still had to pay around $1000+ our of pocket.
I like them alot but the only thing is one of them got damaged in shipping and has a minor housing crack on the side that you can see from a certain angles. My shop contacted Tag but they use an archaic damage claims
were you have to go through the postal service to file the claim and it would of taken weeks and I needed my car back. So they refunded me $100 and I just live with the blemish now. Still don't like the fact that
after all that money they aren't in perfect condition. Wish I knew about going on ebay.de a few months ago.

[onequick4door]

So the moral of the story is, do the intercooler while your switching out the Ecodes, since you have the front bumper off already.

[will13k7]

... and for the last modification to the car (probably):

8-piston brembo calipers with 370x34mm drilled rotors that come with the 8V RS3 in europe.

but:

painted glacier white metallic with the S3 logo.

Should go nicely with this car's oem+ theme and should handle the canyons much better (I was getting brake fade 20-30mins in with the oem setup). No track days planned, and canyon runs are rare, so I'm trying out the oem pads, but going with a high temp brake fluid.

TAG Motorsports is handling the order, they have done similar jobs in the past that came out great, very excited!

[Arrested_Decay]

... and for the last modification to the car (probably):

8-piston brembo calipers with 370x34mm drilled rotors that come with the 8V RS3 in europe.

but:

painted glacier white metallic with the S3 logo.

Should go nicely with this car's oem+ theme and should handle the canyons much better (I was getting brake fade 20-30mins in with the oem setup). No track days planned, and canyon runs are rare, so I'm trying out the oem pads, but going with a high temp brake fluid.

TAG Motorsports is handling the order, they have done similar jobs in the past that came out great, very excited!
Is this a simple swap and bolt on affair or does it require a laundry list of parts?

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[Alloy07]

Lights look great !! Those calipers/rotors will be awesome . Love the idea of Glacier painted calipers !!

[will13k7]

Is this a simple swap and bolt on affair
Yes, that's what it sounds like so far. We'll see!


Lights look great !! Those calipers/rotors will be awesome . Love the idea of Glacier painted calipers !!
Thanks Alloy! The BBK I had on my s4 was red, and I thought it drew just a little too much attention, so I wanted to go a little stealthier this time around [:)]

[phillyquattro]

Damn 8 pistons? Definitely going to look pretty sweet with the paint matched caliper. I'm actually wondering if the red from my ST kit is going to get on my nerves after I install it this weekend. Only one way to find out I guess. Haha. Looks like we're both coming to the end of our builds (for now). Are you planning on coming to the 034 event next weekend?

[saxon]

cant wait to see that, i was thinking about going with the ttrs front brake set up

[will13k7]

Damn 8 pistons?

lol, yes, 8 is overkill, but I was mostly going after the looks and heat retention of the 370x34 rotors with a OEM setup since they typically provide good fitment with more wheels. 380x32 and 370x34 is close to the same amount of metal, and I get more clearance with the inner barrel of the wheel with 370.


I'm actually wondering if the red from my ST kit is going to get on my nerves after I install it this weekend. Only one way to find out I guess. Haha.
You're going to love them, I did. I just don't want my coworkers and random people to notice so easily this time around. haha.


Are you planning on coming to the 034 event next weekend?
Are they throwing another summerfest at their shop? Probably will go if so.

[will13k7]

i was thinking about going with the ttrs front brake set up
I hear that's a great setup, I mostly wanted the bigger calipers for their looks.

[phillyquattro]

Are they throwing another summerfest at their shop? Probably will go if so.

Yup! Details here in the NorCal forum (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/713586-034Motorsport-s-8th-Annual-Get-Together-Dyno-Day-and-Open-House). If you want to meet up and roll over there together let me know.

[will13k7]

all clean and ready for summerfest [up]
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[phillyquattro]

LOL. I love how early you are with your prep detailing. I'm going to segment out my detailing work over the next few afternoons.

[will13k7]

LOL. I love how early you are with your prep detailing. I'm going to segment out my detailing work over the next few afternoons.

haha, had to wash it when I got a chance, no time sat morning, good thing I can just leave it in the garage until the weekend.

[jitsracer]

Awesome car! Awesome threads.

[will13k7]

Brakes arrived, unfortunately the packaging left a lot to be desired and the paint was damaged in a few areas. My appointment for installation is tomorrow, and I don't want to attempt to ship them around more to correct the paint which could get messed up again or even more so. I'm going to get them installed and then touch up any visible places. I emailed the sad news to the shop I ordered them from. I'm sure they were perfect before they were shipped. [=(]

Here's the least paint-damaged caliper and some shots of the rotors:
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[Alloy07]

Those calipers look AWESOME ! so do the rotors. I LOVE the calipers in white. I am betting those small chips will touch up nicely and at any rate not even be noticeable once installed. I just had some OEM exhaust tips powder coated gloss black and one got scratched in shipping. That stuff used to bother me way more, now in my old age I have realized that nothing is perfect. Still bothers me a little though.

I worry every time that I have something shipped .

Those brakes are going to look great installed.

[will13k7]

can't really see much damage from this angle [:D]
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[littleredwagen]

Same Calipers as the B8 RS5, RS4 (B8.5 & B7) R8 (1st Gen), Lambo G, C5 RS6 Only the brackets and rotors are different

[will13k7]

Same Calipers as the B8 RS5, RS4 (B8.5 & B7) R8 (1st Gen), Lambo G, C5 RS6 Only the brackets and rotors are different
that's a long list. 8V RS3 being the latest one to get these Calipers I guess.

Here's the OEM pads that I'm trying out first:
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So does Audi source these from Brembo who sources these from Pagid? [confused] lol.

[will13k7]

I am betting those small chips will touch up nicely and at any rate not even be noticeable once installed. ... That stuff used to bother me way more, now in my old age I have realized that nothing is perfect. Still bothers me a little though.

Thanks Alloy, I'm hoping you're right, now to find some touchup paint. poor me and my scratched BBK. lol.

[will13k7]

... and the brake fluid:
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