Anybody running Lionhart, Lizetti, Accelera, Achilles tires?

[doowopaudi]

These are budget tires, but I'm wondering whether anyone is running or has run these tires and if so, would you recommend these?

I have heard not to cheap out on tires, but I've been seeing a lot of LionHart recently along with Accelera so I'm wondering whether they are a new tire that really doesn't have a reputation yet.


Thanks guys,

[Shimmy]

my wife drives a denali and accelra is pretty popular with people running 24s. still crappy tires though. any reason why you are even entertaining these budget tires?

[homelessNY_LI]

I have never even heard of them. I am in that school of thought not to cheap out on tires. They are your car's only point of contact with the road. I am sure if you shop around you can find a deal on a decent/good/great brand.

I got an amazing deal on pirelli (winters) from tirerack. On sale plus a 70 dollar rebate. They are always my first place to check when I need tires

[doowopaudi]

my wife drives a denali and accelra is pretty popular with people running 24s. still crappy tires though. any reason why you are even entertaining these budget tires?
I have my 19x9 peelers as a secondary option and I want to wrap them with something not too expensive so that I can swap wheels when I feel like it.

[4RingRook]

Suspension and tires are the last places to look to save a buck.

[bluetori]

If anything and I'm not saying there bad by any means get some Hankook I am replacing my old ones and their only 200 for my 20" wheels. No complaints either.

[Project Quattro]

I've never used these brands but I've bought cars with budget tires on them before. They're ok (not great) in good weather but they suck in the rain and slide all over the place in the snow. I replaced them almost immediately in both cases.


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[Militant-Grunt]

Ive driven a customers car with LionHart tires. They came in complaining about noise coming from the wheels. It was the tires. Usually budget tires are loud, ride harshly, bubble easily, have stiff sidewalls, and have poor on road fee (Braking is affected too)l. You can get a set of 750/800 dollar tires. Believe me, spend extra on a decent tire, its among the most important things on your car.

[doowopaudi]

Yeah, thinking it more I'm just gonna get good tires. They should last longer too. Thanks guys

[bluetori]

Unless you want to drive one of those retarded cars with like 26" wheels. The real geniuses��

[o1turbo30v]

The only "cheap" tires I ever used where Eldorado Tires, these are Cooper tires private brand and are made by Sumitomo. The tires I had where the Velozza VXZ and for the money they where awesome. The only way I found out about them was from my local tire shop who said they really worked well. The 255/35/19 was $96.

[Shimmy]

I have my 19x9 peelers as a secondary option and I want to wrap them with something not too expensive so that I can swap wheels when I feel like it.

I'd opt for at least hankooks as previously mentioned, or some falkens.

[doowopaudi]

I'd opt for at least hankooks as previously mentioned, or some falkens.
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna get. Thanks everyone.

By the way, I ended up buying a tire loft for my garage from amazon for $49 (tax incl) with free shipping.

Anyone with extra wheels should look into this for their garage. Its got great reviews

[homelessNY_LI]

Yeah, that's what I'm gonna get. Thanks everyone.

By the way, I ended up buying a tire loft for my garage from amazon for $49 (tax incl) with free shipping.

Anyone with extra wheels should look into this for their garage. Its got great reviews

You have a link?

[doowopaudi]

You have a link?

Here you go. All i did was enter "tire loft" on google or amazon.


Check out some of the customer's images and you'll find a few Audi owners posting their wheels on these racks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058BMNVU/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687762&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0045EQ02O&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1JC8ZC30CZDCQHARV2J6

[keiffr]

These are budget tires, but I'm wondering whether anyone is running or has run these tires and if so, would you recommend these?

I have heard not to cheap out on tires, but I've been seeing a lot of LionHart recently along with Accelera so I'm wondering whether they are a new tire that really doesn't have a reputation yet.


Thanks guys,

If you're looking for some decent budget tires, try out the Velozza ZXV tires. I've had them for about a week and so far no complaints. Stiffer sidewall and less grippy that the Pzeros I had on prior. Half the price but they hold their own.

[Slick_B8]

Ive had the accelera phi tires on 19's before and going up to big bear doing atleast 60-70 on the curves without 0 issues. Those tires are actually pretty darn good

[homelessNY_LI]

between discount tire or tirerack you should be able to get a good deal on good brands like pirelli, michelin, hancock etc)

and i like the tirrack tire hazzard program they have done right by me

[Unit1Evangelion]

Chinese cheapo made tires are the worse. Lowest I run on any of my cars is Hankooks which have bad sidewall issues, but even then I would rather spend $30 more on each tire to get Michelins. My family is too important to rely on something questionable.

Besides, why spend $2k+ on rims if you can't afford a decent set of tires? I find it funny when people buy something like ADV's and they have Accelera tires on them, which is $2-300 a set. Thats like buying Brembo's and then buying some $200 set of brake pads. You are wasting money, let alone testing death.

“Chinese-branded tires are a whole different world,” reported Car and Driver technical director Dave VanderWerp. “You absolutely get what you pay for, which, as we found in our test, is capability that is nothing short of scary."

[Vinhouw]

Lizetti is garbage, my car was slipping so much in the rain, and it rains pretty hard in Florida... I couldn't drive past 55/60 mph because i would lose control of the car... check discounttiredirect, got some 19 falkens...much better

[biserker1]

I run yokohama advan sports on my 19 VMR's. Went from Continental DW to the yokohama to save a few bucks. They are pretty big in the mini cooper world (my old ride) and so far so good. Price wise they are right around what the Hankook's cost.

[brianfresh]

I use achilles atr sports, they're great tires for stretching and I've never had a problem with them

[doowopaudi]

I actually ended up getting a set of 235/35/19 Lionhart LH-Four Tires for my peelers and have no complaints. I got them from one of our very own wheel vendors (GetYourWheels) for $100 each tire plus tax (9% in CA). They look and run good. I live in Sunny So Cal, so not much rain here.

[doowopaudi]

http://www.lionhart.jp/

[keiffr]

I actually ended up getting a set of 235/35/19 Lionhart LH-Four Tires for my peelers and have no complaints. I got them from one of our very own wheel vendors (GetYourWheels) for $100 each tire plus tax (9% in CA). They look and run good. I live in Sunny So Cal, so not much rain here.

[emoji106] Thumbs up! How are you liking the tires?

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[doowopaudi]

[emoji106] Thumbs up! How are you liking the tires?

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So far, loving them

[adamazing]

I went "cheap" on a set of tires a few years back that were getting raves from the Subie Auto-X guys about how awesome they were. I had two of them blow out int he first 6 months.
On one of them, the tread completely separated from the belt.

Never again.

[doowopaudi]

I'll be sure to post here if anything goes wrong with my lionharts

[formula1guy]

Am on my 3rd set of Hankook Ventus V12 Evos. Have done track days on them, have taken them to the snow and rain. They last 10,000 miles longer than the Pirellis p-zero rossos that came on the car and are significantly cheaper. When this set is done, i'll move to their replacement, the Evo 2. Can't beat them for $189 each.

[Zachariah]

Out of all the budget brands out there - these are the ONLY ones worth rolling:

1) Lexani(made by NEXEN)
2) Achilles
3) Accellera

[diego_demarco]

Have had the acceleras since I purchased the avant gardes about 8k miles ago! No problems yet and I drive a lot!!

[Teslatim]

You get what you pay for.... Research is key. That strip of rubber is holding up precious cargo. Save $$$ on something else.

[inception]

go with conti extreme contact dw best bang for the buck. or khumo le sport. there are some great deals on tire rack

[homelessNY_LI]

go with conti extreme contact dw best bang for the buck. or khumo le sport. there are some great deals on tire rack

tirerack is great and i am a huge fan of their tire hazard program. did right by me

[lx4life]

I have Acceleras on my car and they are great, I also have Lionharts on my other car also those are great tires. What is funny is that Kuhmo use to be a budget brand tire back in the days. The acceleras are actually raising their prices since last year maybe they are becoming a better brand name.

[K2R1D3R]

Hey how are the tires holding up and are they noisy?

[doowopaudi]

Hey how are the tires holding up and are they noisy?
My lionharts are noisy, but it's only audible when I'm slowing down to a halt.

[Erick_Glover]

Lionhart LH Eleven 285/35/22 were VERY good tires. I went from Scorpions to Lionheart and now I'm back on Scorpions and the Lionheart LH 11 is just as quiet and smooth! I wore them to the belts on the R50 and never had ANY issues!
Scorpions have one advantage, they have a bit stronger sidewalls but I don't drive aggressively that often so I never need. $1100 vs $400 Scorpions is more than twice the cost but not twice as good.

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[Lambda13]

The only "cheap" tires I ever used where Eldorado Tires, these are Cooper tires private brand and are made by Sumitomo. The tires I had where the Velozza VXZ and for the money they where awesome. The only way I found out about them was from my local tire shop who said they really worked well. The 255/35/19 was $96.

Have any more info on them?

[o1turbo30v]

Have any more info on them?

Heres the newer version of them :http://eldoradotire.com/tires/Detail.aspx?lineid=1837&application=Performance

Looks like Vulcan Tire still has the VXZ's in stock, $82/each : http://www.vulcantire.com/cgi-bin/tiresearch.cgi?stock=14598&f=velozza_zxv_t.cst

[Lambda13]

Heres the newer version of them :http://eldoradotire.com/tires/Detail.aspx?lineid=1837&application=Performance

Looks like Vulcan Tire still has the VXZ's in stock, $82/each : http://www.vulcantire.com/cgi-bin/tiresearch.cgi?stock=14598&f=velozza_zxv_t.cst

Why are they so cheap? Makes me skeptical lol

[o1turbo30v]

Why are they so cheap? Makes me skeptical lol

Because they are a private label for Cooper, i was very happy with mine, i ran them for a few a summers and never had any issues, quiet, good treadlife, great in wet or dry, but if your uncomfortable with it then go spend more $.

[doowopaudi]

Quick update on the Lionhart LH Fours. I recently had to replace all four (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/684587-Should-I-just-get-new-tires?p=11298840&viewfull=1#post11298840)with 245/35/19 because I was stretching 235/35/19's on my OEM S5 Peelers (19x9 et 33). Only the two front tires split. The rears were fine.
I had these on since around Feb 2015 until yesterday. I noticed the split on Saturday 1/2/16.
DON'T STRETCH THESE TIRES!! They split on mine!!
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[jmeenach]

Quick update on the Lionhart LH Fours. I recently had to replace all four (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/684587-Should-I-just-get-new-tires?p=11298840&viewfull=1#post11298840)with 245/35/19 because I was stretching 235/35/19's on my OEM S5 Peelers (19x9 et 33).
I had these on since around Feb 2015 until yesterday. I noticed the split on Saturday 1/2/16.
DON'T STRETCH THESE TIRES!! They split on mine!!
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I was just going to post a link to these photos from your other thread.

[AlphaMale_DD]

I've had Accelera Phi tyres on a second-hand set of wheels I bought before the current ones and they were plain dangerous. Did well in dry weather, but hazardous in the wet. No traction at all, especially in corners!
Sold the entire set because of this.