A beginners guide to selecting rotors written by a begiiner after lots of research

[Diamond Dog]

No one really seemed to be able to help me select rotors and everyone just kind of steered me to the same rotor companies. StopTech, Adam's and ECS. All great companies and all produce great product. I wanted to use one of them because they advertise on Audizine.

I don't street race, track race etc. I don't even drive that fast. I have a 2011 Audi S5 and put new wheels on it and now you can really see the stock rotors. I just like making my car look great without going overboard.

I know that drilled rotors are mostly for the look, they don't really do anything. They just look cool. Slotted rotors add a little bit of performance, but not enough to really matter. This is what I have learned.

I went into this thinking (at this OEM level) that all these companies made the rotors from scractch. I mean, I thought they forged metal and all of that. What I have learned is many companies at this level buy blank rotors and what you are paying for is them to drill, slot, coat them. These companies DESERVE a premium for doing this and they also deserve a premium for having these options available. There are not a lot of companies that have all the options that someone like Adam's Rotors does and he deserves a premium for having those options.

I learned that AUDI OEM uses all left side rotors. This means the vanes are facing the wrong direction on the right. This is normal and and OEM spec.

I learned that drilling the rotors all the way through may weaken the rotor. That is why I went with dimpled and slotted. You get the look and a stronger rotor. Not many people provide this "combo" pattern.

I learned that most of the rotor companies source their rotors from the same place and most of the time they are from Asia (including China). Stoptech uses Centric rotors for examples. This does not necessarily mean they are bad, especially if you are not tracking your car and if you are, the rotors I am talking about probably are not good enough for you.

So what I wanted was a friendly company, that made a good product and that would stand behind it and not make me feel bad when I had questions. I would have used one of the advertisers here, but I found the price differential too big. from whom I selected.

I selected BrakePerformance http://brakeperformance.com/index.php They have been around for a long time and are in S. Cal. They offer a life time warranty against warping unless they are cross drilled. I read yelp reviews and even complaints and they reposnded to complaints trying to resolve. Reviews are pretty good and it looks like they do a lot with Corvettes and American Cars.

I liked them because they are one of the few place I could get slotted and dimpled with black hubs. If you order them black, the whole rotor is zinc coated and after you apply your brakes for 3 or 4 tmes, the black coating on the face of the rotor comes off. So the coating stays on the hub, vanes, and in the dimples and slots. I think this is pretty cool.

I communicated with Athena from their company

Brake Performance purchases their blank rotors within the USA. Depending on availability, Brake Performance occasionally does use Centric as one of our suppliers for our "blanks". The composition we use is Premium Quality Cast Iron that meets or exceeds G3000/ISO9002, QS9000/VDA 6.1. Once an order is placed they order the blanks from their other facility warehouse up North (Canada. They then machine the rotors with CNC Machines in the Chatsworth warehouse, where they also do the Zinc-coating process \ and all shipping is out our Chatsworth facility.

and this is what they say about their coating process:

"Our Performance Rotors have a corrosion protection finish that is electrostatically applied. The Zinc Coating Process is a very extensive hand applied operation that is NOT sprayed on like inferior coaters. Each Performance Brake Rotor is immersed in different solution tanks in the coating process. The final result is a thick protective coating that will help prevent rusting and give you a great custom look"


I liked how open they were to admit they use blanks. Other people seemed to want to hide this or ignore that part of a discussion when people asked.

I told her that a lot of Audizine members don't know about them and asked if they could offer special pricing. She said yes, and you need to contact Athena to order and say you want the Audizine pricing. My hope is that more people will test these rotors and post about them because I think they are a good rotor and a great price for Audizine members. This is what I paid and I did not get their pads:

2011 Audi S5 Coupe:
Front two (2) Premium dimpled & slotted rotors (RB-33124)....$194.44 (list price $227.42)
Rear two (2) Premium dimpled & slotted rotors (RB-33125).....$170.91 (list price $200.96)

Athena takes about 24 hours to return emails and replies. I got the rotors 4 days after ordering them as I am in S. Cal and they make to order. Some places take weeks to make them. I do think she "expedited them" to make a good impression as she told me it usually takes a week.

You can click on the pictures to enlarge

Here is how they came. These are actual pictures and not "stock" pictures. I tool them on a white glass table.

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I had no idea they would do the same on the back and now I understand why they are more expensive if you dimple slot them. Here are the backs

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Here is the side

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I had them installed at South Coast Auto in Costa Mesa and they only charged me $220 for all 4. They get lots of good Yelp reviews and this is not that technical of an install so I felt comfortable. I would not take my Audi here for more complicated things

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The install went without a hitch and the rotors perfectly match the OEM. I called other places and they wanted all this extra money for the rears as they made it sound so complicated with the electronic e-brake. All it requires is a few minutes with VAG Com and these guys charged just a little more for it, but not like the other guys making it sound like a huge ordeal

Here it is installed

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Notice they are all black.

After a few times braking the coating starts to come off:

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and eventually they will be shiny silver with the black coating remaining in the dimples and slots

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I am using Hawk HPS pads and they squealed on my OEM rotors. Now its totally quiet.

I hope you guys try this company for rotors and post your experiences. I will update this thread as time goes on and report back on how these rotors perform.

I hope this post helps some people and saves them some time in understanding OEM replacement rotors.

Again, ask for Athena and the special Audizine pricing. [email protected]

[Unit1Evangelion]

Great write up and sexy car! I was looking into Zimmermans but now I might make a switch if I end up keeping my car.

[Diamond Dog]

Just wanted to post an update and will continue to do so as I test these rotors. They seem to be doing great. They look awesome. They dont get as "silver shiny" as a lot of rotors as it seems like a minute amount of the black stays behind. I love it as it matches my darker silver wheels better.

Performance is very good. Although I am not tracking or doing anything extreme. They feel smoother than my old brakes and all squeeling in gone. Grip seems to as good or not better than OEM. no warping or anything else yet. Brake dust seems about the same as before.

[RUBZERK]

any issues with brake dust build up ?

[Diamond Dog]

any issues with brake dust build up ?

No. The slots are to the edge so it allows for dust to escape out the open side.

[RendyR]

Questions:
The vanes are now left and right specific?
Shipping is free?

[Diamond Dog]

Questions:
The vanes are now left and right specific?
Shipping is free?


No. They match factory OEM spec so vanes are not left and right specific. Just like Stoptech, centric, and just about everyone else

Shipping was free. My rotors still seem to be doing great

Rember you have to talk to Athena for the special Audizine discount.

[Diamond Dog]

Just checking in with a progress report. I think the rotors are even better than when first installed as they are bit more broken in now.

No warping, no squeaking.

[AudiMayhem]

Great write up! Just what I was looking for.

[Diamond Dog]

Great write up! Just what I was looking for.

As of today, the rotors are still holding up great!

I think there is less brake dust from the Hawk HPS pads after a couple of months, but it could all be in my head.

There are some other AZ members who have purchased from this company and would love to hear their reviews.

[Diamond Dog]

Just checking in. Brakes and rotors still feel solid and very smooth. Did a lot of driving today going down hill around curves and the brakes and rotors performed like a champ. Will report back at the 6 month milestone, but so far, very impressed especially when you factor in the price.

[JamesR512]

All components BLACK Xd Brake rotors with Carbon Metallic brake pads arrived in perfect condition and LUK Schaffer (http://www.lukschaffer.com/)installation was not easy but afterwards they worked great would recommend to anyone driving a Audi Allroad Quattro.



Just checking in. Brakes and rotors still feel solid and very smooth. Did a lot of driving today going down hill around curves and the brakes and rotors performed like a champ. Will report back at the 6 month milestone, but so far, very impressed especially when you factor in the price.

[kdaffy]

Great review!

I picked up the xdrilled/slotted rottors from brakeperformance.com and am getting them installed next Thursday. Pairing them with Akebono pads. I am replacing stoptech xdrilled/slotted paired with EBC redstuff pads. The stoptech rotors warped after about 5 months of use. Tried rebedding them and everything with no luck so just swapping. Will provide some input once I get some miles on the new setup, but initial impressions were good...got the rotors shipped to me in a week (arriving tomorrow).

[Kyros]

Are the dimpled/slotted brakeperformance rotors any louder then the stock OEM rotors?

[Diamond Dog]

Are the dimpled/slotted brakeperformance rotors any louder then the stock OEM rotors?


Mine are not. Actually mine are quiter. I would say install and pads can influence

[Kyros]

Thanks. Which pads do you have exactly Hawks ceramic?

[Diamond Dog]

Thanks. Which pads do you have exactly Hawks ceramic?

Hawk HPS

[Kyros]

Thanks gonna try that setup.

[RandyL]

No. They match factory OEM spec so vanes are not left and right specific. Just like Stoptech, centric, and just about everyone else


I just bought a set of slotted GEOMET rotors from ECS tuning and can confirm that they are side-specific (different for left and right).

[Diamond Dog]

Rotors are still performing awesome.

The only thing wrong is that on one rotor, the black paint has worn off on some of the dimples. Other than that, I wanted to post and update to communicate that these rotors hold up very nice over time and I still highly recommend.

[Diamond Dog]

Rotors are still performing awesome.

The only thing wrong is that on one rotor, the black paint has worn off on some of the dimples. Other than that, I wanted to post and update to communicate that these rotors hold up very nice over time and I still highly recommend.


I stand corrected. The paint in the dimples has not worn off or rusted. The brake dust from the Hawk pads is brown. It accumulated in the dimples and slots making it look like the dimples and slot black paint wore off or rusted. A good cleaning fixed it.

Rotors holding up great and can not be more pleased with these.

[cal3thousand]

I stand corrected. The paint in the dimples has not worn off or rusted. The brake dust from the Hawk pads is brown. It accumulated in the dimples and slots making it look like the dimples and slot black paint wore off or rusted. A good cleaning fixed it.

Rotors holding up great and can not be more pleased with these.

I like the fact that you are coming back to update on the review. Many times, people just post about mods they just did and we never get a follow up. With brakes, it is especially important. I think I will check them out further. Thanks for the review!1

[S5erg]

I've been hesitant on buying rotors but now you got me convinced and will probably go with the same setup!

[athlon64x2]

I just got this brake and rotors (front and rear) for my S4 from these guys and I will post also my updates.

[shadyreddy]

How are the brakes holding up and how many miles have you put on them so far?

[Diamond Dog]

How are the brakes holding up and how many miles have you put on them so far?

Very Pleased. About 10K miles on the brakes.

My only issue is that although the Hawk HPS brakes works great, they are dustier than I would like. The dust is brown vs black though.

I am hesitant to go to ceramic as the stopping power is not as good from what I heard unless they get warm and under wet conditions, they seem to not perform as well. I also am hesitant to "re-mate" new pads to the rotors

But as far as the rotors, I am very pleased

[shadyreddy]

That sounds good. I think I will try these out too but with different pads maybe.

[shadyreddy]

Thanks for the write up and the follow up :)

[Unit1Evangelion]

Wellllll i took your advice and got my rotors from brakeperformance and received them in 2 days(helps living in socal). Going to install them tomorrow using EBC red stuff. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/24/91e2dfc927bf9d925d47266e3688707b.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/24/bfa2956ba568e41a91d0103a94a2e650.jpg

Installation pics to come!


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[Diamond Dog]

Cort,

How much where the brake lines and where did you buy?

[Unit1Evangelion]

Installed my front rotors and brakes today along with painting them. Tomorrow i will do the rears. They dont actually sqeel like EBC said they would when breaking them in.

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[Diamond Dog]

Cort,

I am thinking you can paint the calipers without taking them off?

Your rotors and calipers look great!

[Unit1Evangelion]

Ya i can, just they were already off because i was changing the pads. Seems to be easier if i just changing everything and then paint after they are installed.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/27/0283c0d654522bbff28fbbd7dfd3f67f.jpg


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[Churchill]

Just ordered the same rotors from Brake Performance along with semi-metallic pads. They offer an Audizine discount if you ask for Athena.

[Diamond Dog]

Just ordered the same rotors from Brake Performance along with semi-metallic pads. They offer an Audizine discount if you ask for Athena.

Just as an update, from the date of the Original Post, my Rotors are still going strong!!!!! Love them!

[Unit1Evangelion]

I will have to drop in and say mine are doing good as well. Then again I don't like braking so that could be a reason...

Have a problem but that is with EBC and not the rotors as the replacement wear sensor keeps going off and on randomly. Kind of annoying. Let alone the brake dust that builds up on my wheels is crazy. So much for Redstuff having less dust. Think i need to go with ceramic to keep my rims clean.

[jrsAudiA6]

Since this thread is a discussion on brake rotors may I suggest that everyone read the various white papers from StopTech. They can be found at the following link http://stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers

[Diamond Dog]

Still going strong and so happy I did this.

[Rob04S4]

I really appreciate your post. I just called Athena and am ordering a full rotor and pad set. Also look at this link. They are selling a full kit with slotted and dimpled rotors for the b6 s4 for 400.00. http://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-dimpled-&-slotted-brake-kit-black-zinc-coating.php

[Diamond Dog]

Glad to hear it. Just an update. My rotors are still holding up perfectly as of this date. Quite a long time from my original post!

[Diamond Dog]

Just another update. Still going strong. No problems whatsoever


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[4point2]

great review buddy[up]

Unrelated to this thread, I came to the same conclusions over a year and a half ago, wish I had known about the AZ discount. I too went with dimpled / slotted / black finish, but I mated them to Akebono Euroceramic pads. I've been super happy with both, braking is still good, no squeal, I do get a rhythmic clicking which I believe is the edge of the slot going past the brake pad. Dust wise, the ceramics are amazing, I clean my wheels about every 6 weeks or when they're too dirty with road grime or grease. I just never get brake dust building up anymore.

Two thumbs way way up for brake performance, I'll be putting them on every car from now on

[stoked_S4]

Just another update. Still going strong. No problems whatsoever


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Almost ordered OEM but due to mainly your review,lifetime warranty in case of warping and machined in US decided to go with Brake Performance. Good thing saw this thread. Didn't want slotted etc from other manufacturers due to no warranty on warping and can't cut them like OEM if they are slightly off.

Prices went up in 2 yrs since you ordered a bit but lucked out with Labor Day special of 35% off. Ordering rotors only or with pads is same price(sensor extra) so will try these pads.

Anyone using their performance semi-metallic pads who can provide feedback?

[DubaiRich]

Outstanding write up. I have an 09 A6, and I. like you, have been trying to determine what mfg to purchase from. Your info was instrumental in my decision to contact BrakePerformance for my purchase. I lift my glass up to you Sir!

[Diamond Dog]

Glad I could help. My rotors are still,going strong! Look how long it's been since my original post


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[mikedizzzo]

Need pads and rotors soon for my S5. I'll order the rotors dimple and slotted from Brake Performanace, but unsure what pads to use. Any suggestions. I don't track, just normal driving


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[Diamond Dog]

I used hawk HPS. Great stopping power, but a little dusty.

[mikedizzzo]

I used hawk HPS. Great stopping power, but a little dusty.

Link to hawks pads please?


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[mikedizzzo]

I live in so cal to so will probably be going to the same install place as you. Thanks. Anaheim area to be exact


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[mikedizzzo]

before i pull the trigger, with my car being only 16000 miles, do i need to replace the brake sensors if i change out the pads?

[Diamond Dog]

before i pull the trigger, with my car being only 16000 miles, do i need to replace the brake sensors if i change out the pads?

No.

the sensor is simply a switch. if the switch has not been activated, its still good

[mikedizzzo]

i dont track my car or anything. just normal A to B driving. These should be sufficient?

http://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-replacement-brake-rotors.php ?

[Diamond Dog]

i dont track my car or anything. just normal A to B driving. These should be sufficient?

http://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-replacement-brake-rotors.php ?

I would say so. Most rotors come from the same place BTW until you get into the super high end ones.

BTW my rotors are STILL going strong!!!!

[toastsauce]

I was going to go with brake performance as well. They have a great warranty and the prices are competitive. Also picked up red stuff pads to match the new rotors

[stoked_S4]

Is anyone using these rotors with brakeperformance pads? I got the pads for free and decided to try it. Initially no issues except for losing the initial bite which I got used to in few weeks. Now for the past few months getting a clunking noisefrom front only once when going in reverse from park and hitting the brakes or FWD and then braking. Normal driving an braking there is no noise. Got it checked out and it seems that pads are shifting. Anyone else having these issues with other pads with brakeperformance rotors?

[ynottony]

Thanks Diamond Dog for your thorough post and updates. I made my purchase today and can't wait to get em installed.


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[mikedizzzo]

I would say so. Most rotors come from the same place BTW until you get into the super high end ones.

BTW my rotors are STILL going strong!!!!

Just got the same set up installed over the weekend. Did you notice less bite than OEM? I kinda do, so might get some SS lines to help it? What are your thoughts?

[Diamond Dog]

Just got the same set up installed over the weekend. Did you notice less bite than OEM? I kinda do, so might get some SS lines to help it? What are your thoughts?

No. I used Hawk HPS pads so I noticed better bite and overall performance.

[Audiraz]

Looking to replace my rotors and pads and came across this post. Very well done and even better that you have been following up for so long! Basically sold on these, but just curious about the coating on the rotors and hub. How do they look two years later? And rust or corrosion? Could you post a close up pic of them now?


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[Diamond Dog]

Looking to replace my rotors and pads and came across this post. Very well done and even better that you have been following up for so long! Basically sold on these, but just curious about the coating on the rotors and hub. How do they look two years later? And rust or corrosion? Could you post a close up pic of them now?


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No rust or corrosion. As of today these rotors and pads are performing flawlessly! I think we are close to the 3 year mark.

The unfortunate thing is that Hawk HPS creates brown dust and it resembles rust a bit and this dust fills in the dimples and slots.

[Audiraz]

No rust or corrosion. As of today these rotors and pads are performing flawlessly! I think we are close to the 3 year mark.

The unfortunate thing is that Hawk HPS creates brown dust and it resembles rust a bit and this dust fills in the dimples and slots.

Could you post a picture when you get a chance?


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[Diamond Dog]

Could you post a picture when you get a chance?


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[Audiraz]

Nice! I am sold. Hope Athena still works there


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[mikedizzzo]

Glad to hear it. Just an update. My rotors are still holding up perfectly as of this date. Quite a long time from my original post!

I have the same set up as you...you ever hear squeaks at random times? I asked the mechanic who installed mine and he said it's normal with the hawks since they are high performance. I'm questioning if he even installed them correctly


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[Diamond Dog]

I have the same set up as you...you ever hear squeaks at random times? I asked the mechanic who installed mine and he said it's normal with the hawks since they are high performance. I'm questioning if he even installed them correctly


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When I pull out of driveway it squeeze,. But not after that.




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[Wanderer]

Nice write up, have you thought about doing a similar post about pads, and the cold & hot friction codes that are printed on new pads? Been thinking about trying Hawk HPS too.

[Diamond Dog]

Nice write up, have you thought about doing a similar post about pads, and the cold & hot friction codes that are printed on new pads? Been thinking about trying Hawk HPS too.

Not really. I just keep it at a high level. I am going on three years with Hawk HPS without issue or need to change pads

[SLH21]

Nice sale going on right now, 30% off all rotors and kits

[mikedizzzo]

Just got the stainless steel lines replaced with StopTech. I felt no difference. Anyone else? Felt like wasted 200 bucks which included labor.


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[stoked_S4]

Replaced my OEM's on 4 corners with these last Sept. Also decided to use their pads since they came free with the rotors. The pads do not make noise in cold winter driving but constantly squeal at low speeds initially coming to stop sign etc. The pads are also slightly smaller so they make clunking noise when put in reverse and hit the brakes. They dust much less than OEM and does not have the initial bite but they do stop when needed.

[robertstitt]

Well, Athena still works there and yes I'm getting a nice discount from their advertised 30% off prices. Email her at the original link and things get better. Cheers

[Fly'n Family]

Nice write-up and great job following up on this over a period of time, I'm sure we all appreciate it.

Based on this, I'm checking into these rotors/pads for my wife's 14' Q7 S-line.

Thanks again [up]

[fmzip]

Well, Athena still works there and yes I'm getting a nice discount from their advertised 30% off prices. Email her at the original link and things get better. Cheers

What did she quote recently?

I was thinking of going with these

http://www.partstrain.com/store/details/StopTech/Brake_Disc_and_Pad_Kit/ST193433045.html?location=Front_And_Rear-comma-_Driver_And_Passenger_Side

with coupon code PTSCARYIR5 , $422 delivered

Not sure i am a fan of the brown dimples

[robertstitt]

What did she quote recently?

I was thinking of going with these

http://www.partstrain.com/store/details/StopTech/Brake_Disc_and_Pad_Kit/ST193433045.html?location=Front_And_Rear-comma-_Driver_And_Passenger_Side

with coupon code PTSCARYIR5 , $422 delivered

Not sure i am a fan of the brown dimples

I think it was $335 for the slotted and dimpled and included free delivery(it was fairly quick too). Got the akebonos from CARID on ebay, can't recall offhand cost but I love them. Nope, they don't have that initial bite that the oem ones do but they are very progressive. Personally, I thought the oem pads were a bit touchy with their bite. Dust, what dust. Loving them.

[fmzip]

I think it was $335 for the slotted and dimpled and included free delivery(it was fairly quick too). Got the akebonos from CARID on ebay, can't recall offhand cost but I love them. Nope, they don't have that initial bite that the oem ones do but they are very progressive. Personally, I thought the oem pads were a bit touchy with their bite. Dust, what dust. Loving them.

totally agree with you on the stock pads. I think I am going to try the Akeebono ceramics, I'll take that trade off for little dust!

I see they offer both the drilled/slotted & Dimple/slotted with lifetime warranty....Maybe I will give them a shot

[fmzip]

Here's the latest from Althea:

"Please see Audizine Promo Discounted pricing and descriptions of rotors.....

CB-33138 = $250.32 (List Price $272.13)
CB-33137 = $117.95 (List Price $136.49)
Premium Cross Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors

These beautifully machined cross drilled and slotted brake rotors include the same slotted design as the premium dimpled drilled and slotted brake rotors giving you incredible stopping power while keeping the dust away from your wheels. The cross drilled holes are chamfered to eliminate cracking and move air from the disc surface while reducing surface temperature eliminating hot spots and warping. Cross drilled brake discs are machined balanced, surface ground finish double disk smooth and guaranteed to fit original equipment manufacturer specs without any brake modification. The cross drilled and slotted brake rotors are sold in pairs and come zinc coated in either black or silver to help prevent rusting and give you a performance race look. We include free a lifetime warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. As of March 2015, we now include a lifetime warranty against warping and cracking.

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RB-33138 = $298.52 (List Price $323.63)
RB-33137 = $187.99 (List Price $164.30)

Premium Dimpled and Slotted Brake Rotors

The advantage of the premium dimpled drilled and slotted brake rotors is the superior braking power you will experience over your stock brake system. Partially drilled dimpled holes dissipate heat without penetrating the brake pad surface and sacrificing brake disc strength. Our fully extended curved scraper slots not only give you unbelievable stopping power but they also throw the dust away from your wheels keeping them cleaner. The brake rotor or disc is machined balanced and guaranteed to fit original equipment manufacturer specs without any brake modification. All performance brake rotors are sold in pairs and come Zinc coated in either Black or Silver to help prevent rusting. We include free the best warranty anywhere, lifetime against warping, cracking, and any defects in materials and workmanship. We also recommend premium semi metallic brake pads with every set of premium dimpled drilled and slotted brake rotors for ultimate in braking power.

Please note, it takes 2 to 3 Business days to custom machine and zinc-coat the rotors Before shipping out. We ship UPS Ground Free of charge
within the 48 Continental US States. We ship from California.

To order with Audizine Promo pricing, please call Athena toll free at 1-866-756-5536.
Thank you!
Athena"

[robertstitt]

Here's the latest from Althea:

"Please see Audizine Promo Discounted pricing and descriptions of rotors.....

CB-33138 = $250.32 (List Price $272.13)
CB-33137 = $117.95 (List Price $136.49)
Premium Cross Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors

These beautifully machined cross drilled and slotted brake rotors include the same slotted design as the premium dimpled drilled and slotted brake rotors giving you incredible stopping power while keeping the dust away from your wheels. The cross drilled holes are chamfered to eliminate cracking and move air from the disc surface while reducing surface temperature eliminating hot spots and warping. Cross drilled brake discs are machined balanced, surface ground finish double disk smooth and guaranteed to fit original equipment manufacturer specs without any brake modification. The cross drilled and slotted brake rotors are sold in pairs and come zinc coated in either black or silver to help prevent rusting and give you a performance race look. We include free a lifetime warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. As of March 2015, we now include a lifetime warranty against warping and cracking.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RB-33138 = $298.52 (List Price $323.63)
RB-33137 = $187.99 (List Price $164.30)

Premium Dimpled and Slotted Brake Rotors

The advantage of the premium dimpled drilled and slotted brake rotors is the superior braking power you will experience over your stock brake system. Partially drilled dimpled holes dissipate heat without penetrating the brake pad surface and sacrificing brake disc strength. Our fully extended curved scraper slots not only give you unbelievable stopping power but they also throw the dust away from your wheels keeping them cleaner. The brake rotor or disc is machined balanced and guaranteed to fit original equipment manufacturer specs without any brake modification. All performance brake rotors are sold in pairs and come Zinc coated in either Black or Silver to help prevent rusting. We include free the best warranty anywhere, lifetime against warping, cracking, and any defects in materials and workmanship. We also recommend premium semi metallic brake pads with every set of premium dimpled drilled and slotted brake rotors for ultimate in braking power.

Please note, it takes 2 to 3 Business days to custom machine and zinc-coat the rotors Before shipping out. We ship UPS Ground Free of charge
within the 48 Continental US States. We ship from California.

To order with Audizine Promo pricing, please call Athena toll free at 1-866-756-5536.
Thank you!
Athena"

Ok, so I went back to my correspondence with Athena. I got premium dimpled and slotted rotors for a total of $335 shipped...fronts $180, rears $150. Maybe I just hit her at the right time.

[fmzip]

Ok, so I went back to my correspondence with Athena. I got premium dimpled and slotted rotors for a total of $335 shipped...fronts $180, rears $150. Maybe I just hit her at the right time.


Can you confirm the part numbers you ordered please? Thanks

[robertstitt]

Can you confirm the part numbers you ordered please? Thanks

Here ya go. Below was there listed price but I believe that they were on a discount at the time...

RB-33138 currently $219.15 w/free shipping
RB-33137 currently $187.99 w/free shipping

Here's what I got after the audizine discount

Front two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted rotors (RB-33138) = $185.00 (List Price =$219.15)
Rear two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted rotors (RB-33137) = $150.00 (List Price =$187.99)

Guess I hit it just right. BTW I said it before, the Akebonos Euro Ceramic....no stinking dust. Different feel than oem, not as touchy but my peelers absolutely love them. When it comes time to replace brakes in my other cars I'll be buying these pads.

[fmzip]

Here ya go. Below was there listed price but I believe that they were on a discount at the time...

RB-33138 currently $219.15 w/free shipping
RB-33137 currently $187.99 w/free shipping

Here's what I got after the audizine discount

Front two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted rotors (RB-33138) = $185.00 (List Price =$219.15)
Rear two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted rotors (RB-33137) = $150.00 (List Price =$187.99)

Guess I hit it just right. BTW I said it before, the Akebonos Euro Ceramic....no stinking dust. Different feel than oem, not as touchy but my peelers absolutely love them. When it comes time to replace brakes in my other cars I'll be buying these pads.

Thanks for the info. I am going to try those pads, been recommended so many times by people I know personally as well. How long ago did you order? That's a huge difference in price, $335 versus the $487 I am being quoted

[robertstitt]

Thanks for the info. I am going to try those pads, been recommended so many times by people I know personally as well. How long ago did you order? That's a huge difference in price, $335 versus the $487 I am being quoted

28 Sep 17. Go for the akebonos euro ceramic, you won't regret.

I sent Athena (not Althea) an email (as mentioned in the op's right up) prior to purchase to get those prices then I called her to order. Maybe you talked to the wrong person.

[fmzip]

28 Sep 17. Go for the akebonos euro ceramic, you won't regret.

I sent Athena (not Althea) an email (as mentioned in the op's right up) prior to purchase to get those prices then I called her to order. Maybe you talked to the wrong person.

Typo, it was Athena who gave me the prices....I sent her another email with your quoted prices. That a steep premium in just 30 days.

[fmzip]

Typo, it was Athena who gave me the prices....I sent her another email with your quoted prices. That a steep premium in just 30 days.

She did reply today saying that was a promotional pricing from 2014......I explained that the price was just passed on as recently as the end of September 2017.....

She said she'd get back to me. The deals may be over

[robertstitt]

She did reply today saying that was a promotional pricing from 2014......I explained that the price was just passed on as recently as the end of September 2017.....

She said she'd get back to me. The deals may be over

Guess I lucked out. You won't be sorry if you order from them at whatever price. Nice piece of kit (rotors) and they arrive fairly quickly. Don't buy rotors with pad deals unless they are akebonos. I can't say enough about how dustless they are. My peelers used to look like they were titanium after just a day or so with the stock pads. Now after a thorough wash they look great after a week of driving.

[fmzip]

Reply as of today :)

Good Morning Fran,

Re: Audizine Pricing & Availability

I apologize as the quote from last week was based on product availability. The Front rotors were only available as a Black Hub rotor (which is Electro-plated, not zinc-coated)

If you were to look on BP site today the List pricing is as stated in your email, please see rotor pricing for both the front & rear rotors.

PRICING ON SITE TODAY:
RB-33138 = $219.15
RB-33137 = $187.99

Please keep in mind that we do our best to keep the same discount pricing on all parts for all customers. Please note pricing does fluctuate as we are an online company, and
again depending on parts and availability.

Moving On, Please see a Special Discount for you....

RB-33138 = $175.00
RB-33137 = $145.00

TOTAL FOR FRONT & REAR ROTORS = $320.00 -

To order, please call Athena toll free at 866-756-5536. Process time takes 2 to 3 Business days to custom machine and plate the rotors Before shipping out.
We ship UPS Ground free of charge within the 48 Continental US States. We ship out of California.

Thank you,
Athena

WHOLESALE DIVISION
Brakeperformance
9424 Eton Avenue, Unit I
Chatsworth, CA 91311
(818) 772-5540 Direct
(866) 756-5536 Toll Free
www.brakeperformance.com

[robertstitt]

Reply as of today :)

Good Morning Fran,

Re: Audizine Pricing & Availability

I apologize as the quote from last week was based on product availability. The Front rotors were only available as a Black Hub rotor (which is Electro-plated, not zinc-coated)

If you were to look on BP site today the List pricing is as stated in your email, please see rotor pricing for both the front & rear rotors.

PRICING ON SITE TODAY:
RB-33138 = $219.15
RB-33137 = $187.99

Please keep in mind that we do our best to keep the same discount pricing on all parts for all customers. Please note pricing does fluctuate as we are an online company, and
again depending on parts and availability.

Moving On, Please see a Special Discount for you....

RB-33138 = $175.00
RB-33137 = $145.00

TOTAL FOR FRONT & REAR ROTORS = $320.00 -

To order, please call Athena toll free at 866-756-5536. Process time takes 2 to 3 Business days to custom machine and plate the rotors Before shipping out.
We ship UPS Ground free of charge within the 48 Continental US States. We ship out of California.

Thank you,
Athena

WHOLESALE DIVISION
Brakeperformance
9424 Eton Avenue, Unit I
Chatsworth, CA 91311
(818) 772-5540 Direct
(866) 756-5536 Toll FreeG
www.brakeperformance.com

Good on you. Looks like you'll get them for about $15 less than what I paid. I think I'm due some beer.

[fmzip]

Good on you. Looks like you'll get them for about $15 less than what I paid. I think I'm due some beer.

I'll paypal you $7.50 my friend.... :)

[djnice]

Today the price on their site is this:
RB-33138 = $320.74
RB-33137 = $264.50
That's about $200 increase.

[fmzip]

Today the price on their site is this:
RB-33138 = $320.74
RB-33137 = $264.50
That's about $200 increase.

If you want them, I will forward you my email from her....I assume they will extend the same price. PM your email

[Phantom_S5]

So glad I stumbled upon this thread! Recently picked up a 2010 S5 that needs new rotors and started to do some research on good replacements. I definitely wanted to improve the aesthetics of the car while improving it's daily driveability and since I don't track it a BBK or anything overkill wasn't needed for me. Contacted Athena and got the following quotes:

2010 Audi S5:
RB-33124 = Front two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted (Black) Brake Rotors (RB-33124) = $183.34 (Current List Price =$217.70)
RB-33125 = Rear two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted (Black) Brake Rotors (RB-33125) = $157.56 (Current List Price =$191.48)

Planning to pair these with some Akebono Euroceramic pads and a fresh brake flush. It's also pretty cool that the company is literally a few miles from where I live in Van Nuys. Athena encouraged me to stop by to pick up my parts and even take a tour of the warehouse!

[fmzip]

So glad I stumbled upon this thread! Recently picked up a 2010 S5 that needs new rotors and started to do some research on good replacements. I definitely wanted to improve the aesthetics of the car while improving it's daily driveability and since I don't track it a BBK or anything overkill wasn't needed for me. Contacted Athena and got the following quotes:

2010 Audi S5:
RB-33124 = Front two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted (Black) Brake Rotors (RB-33124) = $183.34 (Current List Price =$217.70)
RB-33125 = Rear two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted (Black) Brake Rotors (RB-33125) = $157.56 (Current List Price =$191.48)

Planning to pair these with some Akebono Euroceramic pads and a fresh brake flush. It's also pretty cool that the company is literally a few miles from where I live in Van Nuys. Athena encouraged me to stop by to pick up my parts and even take a tour of the warehouse!

Glad to hear it.

You will love dust free living! :)

[Phantom_S5]

Rotors came in from Brake Performance today! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180127/5abac002f119d1a8d1d2ffae42182c72.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180127/4c4b8a9e1457f2584d2053a665edb67d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180127/ba52f4a7b141c8f9a8eecd3824a0f03b.jpg


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[DonfvckingJuan]

Any other after pics of the black zinc coated rotors? I'd like to see how much residue from the black coating will be left on that rotor itself after breaking in

[Diamond Dog]

Any other after pics of the black zinc coated rotors? I'd like to see how much residue from the black coating will be left on that rotor itself after breaking in

Post #1 and Post #35 pretty much show it. All the black goes away except for inside the dimples and slots, The pictures you will see are the first day, but it was totally clean later on except for dimples and slots

[fmzip]

Just like every other rotor :)


Any other after pics of the black zinc coated rotors? I'd like to see how much residue from the black coating will be left on that rotor itself after breaking in

[Diamond Dog]

Don't be scared...Just do it.

[BWilson]

Just ordered a 4 wheel brake kit from Brake Performance included front and back premium dimpled &slotted brake rotors with premium semi-metallic brake pads. This month they are offering a free brake hardware kit with each brake pad/rotor kit. You must ask for Athena to get the Audizine special price. The website sale price was $436.42 but the Audizine sales discount is $401.38. I will update when brake kit arrives.

[Phantom_S5]

Just ordered a 4 wheel brake kit from Brake Performance included front and back premium dimpled &slotted brake rotors with premium semi-metallic brake pads. This month they are offering a free brake hardware kit with each brake pad/rotor kit. You must ask for Athena to get the Audizine special price. The website sale price was $436.42 but the Audizine sales discount is $401.38. I will update when brake kit arrives.

Nice! I'm getting my dimpled & slotted rotors finally installed this Saturday along with Akebono brakepads and a fresh fluid flush. Will report back with pics and first impressions.

[fmzip]

Nice! I'm getting my dimpled & slotted rotors finally installed this Saturday along with Akebono brakepads and a fresh fluid flush. Will report back with pics and first impressions.

I went with the same combo, very happy.

[RHawk]

Just curious if anyone runs the ebc yellow stuff or (insert color here) stuff pads? I'm looking to upgrade oem rotors and pads, definitely going to consider dimpled and slotted, as slotted rotors are hard to find. I've always run ebc pads on my bikes and off-road toys, are they worth it? Pros and cons appreciated.

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[RHawk]

[QUOTE=RHawk;13003984]Just curious if anyone runs the ebc yellow stuff or (insert color here) stuff pads? I'm looking to upgrade oem rotors and pads, definitely going to consider dimpled and slotted, as slotted rotors are hard to find. I've always run ebc pads on my bikes and off-road toys, are they worth it? Pros and cons appreciated.

Edit: NICE looking slotted rotors are hard to find, like I had on my 01....kind of wave design. The slot is almost continuous around the whole rotor.

[wkhanna]

.... I've always run ebc pads on my bikes .....

me too....

but never tried for autos......

[AWEs5]

Don't be scared...Just do it.

How are the brakes holding up? I got my 2013 S5 back from her 55K service today and the advisor said my front rotors and pads are down to "under 10%" so I asked him how much replacing JUST the fronts would cost and he said "$1100". So I told him "umm, i'll let you know". I am now in the market for new rotor and pads and very glad I went to Audizine first! I just sent an email to BP so hope Athena is still there. But to be honest, even if I pay the premium, it's still going to save me hundreds!

Did you go with the black zinc coating? I also see a silver zinc coating as well. Also I want to try the Akebono Euro Ceramic pads. Thank you for the awesome write up by the way!

[AWEs5]

I have the same set up as you...you ever hear squeaks at random times? I asked the mechanic who installed mine and he said it's normal with the hawks since they are high performance. I'm questioning if he even installed them correctly


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Did you take it to the same shop as the OP?

[Diamond Dog]

How are the brakes holding up? I got my 2013 S5 back from her 55K service today and the advisor said my front rotors and pads are down to "under 10%" so I asked him how much replacing JUST the fronts would cost and he said "$1100". So I told him "umm, i'll let you know". I am now in the market for new rotor and pads and very glad I went to Audizine first! I just sent an email to BP so hope Athena is still there. But to be honest, even if I pay the premium, it's still going to save me hundreds!

Did you go with the black zinc coating? I also see a silver zinc coating as well. Also I want to try the Akebono Euro Ceramic pads. Thank you for the awesome write up by the way!


I sold my S5. But if you read all the postsmyou can see the held up for me and others for years. I went with black coated

[AWEs5]

Thank you [emoji106]


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[AWEs5]

Re: Audizine Promo

At the present date, we do not have the Front Cast Iron G3000 rotors available. Those will not be available until Mid to Late April.
That being said, on BP site, the Front rotors (RB-33138) are a Premium High Carbon Rotor which costs more then the Cast Iron
rotors. If you can wait until end of April, beginning of May, I can then honor the pricing as such......

RB-33138 - Front two Premium dimpled & slotted rotors (RB-33138) = $175.00 (List Price = $221.22) = Cast Iron-G3000
RB-33137 - Rear two Premium dimpled & slotted rotors (RB-33137) = $155.00 (List Price = $189.88) = Cast Iron-G3000

To date, 3/27/18 we only have available the High Carbon rotors for the front, please see discounted pricing for these...

2013 Audi S4:
Front two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted (Black) Brake Rotors (RB-33138) = $275.00 (Current Sale Price = $325.58) = Premium High Carbon
Rear two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted (Black) Brake Rotors (RB-33137) = $155.00 (Current Sale Price = $189.88) = Cast Iron - G3000

Well it looks like they are currently out of the cast iron rotor. Do you guys recommend the premium high carbon for the fronts? Or should I wait this out? Thank you.

[wkhanna]

high carbon have better performance......

but the cast iron (which has a lower carbon content) will work just fine for most folks who do not track their cars....

jmho ymmv

[Woogy]

If you want them, I will forward you my email from her....I assume they will extend the same price. PM your email

fmzip, would you think they'd extend a similar price this many months later?
Their current list prices are $328.81 and $191.80. Clearly, demand has increased and prices reflect this. However, $520.61 list price is a generous increase from your originally quoted $487 and the previous $330ish other members have received. Any tips when speaking with Athena or should I simply mention being an Audizine member?

[fmzip]

fmzip, would you think they'd extend a similar price this many months later?
Their current list prices are $328.81 and $191.80. Clearly, demand has increased and prices reflect this. However, $520.61 list price is a generous increase from your originally quoted $487 and the previous $330ish other members have received. Any tips when speaking with Athena or should I simply mention being an Audizine member?

PM me your email and I will forward the email I have from her to you. Then you can say you are an Audizine member and see what she does for you

[AWEs5]

PM me your email and I will forward the email I have from her to you. Then you can say you are an Audizine member and see what she does for you

FYI...spoke to Athena today and they currently ONLY have high carbon rotors in stock. Cast Iron will not be available until mid to late May.

[Woogy]

I'm assuming most folks purchased the Cast Iron rotor. I don't see an option to choose one or the other type in a drop down or something like that. I only see under Product Information the mention of G3000 Cast Iron as what is typically used.

[fmzip]

I'm assuming most folks purchased the Cast Iron rotor. I don't see an option to choose one or the other type in a drop down or something like that. I only see under Product Information the mention of G3000 Cast Iron as what is typically used.

I purchased the last ones listed on this page

RB-33138 = $175.00
RB-33137 = $145.00:

http://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-dimpled-&-slotted-brake-rotors-black-zinc-coating.php

Premium Dimpled & Slotted Brake Rotors which are cast iron. I don't see an option for Carbon either

http://brakeperformance.com/images/vault/md_RS-RB-callout-dimpled-slotted-brake-rotors.jpg

[chip_]

Interesting read here. So how do these differ from say stop tech since the Stop tech ones end in the same 5 digit #.

[fmzip]

Interesting read here. So how do these differ from say stop tech since the Stop tech ones end in the same 5 digit #.

Although Stop Tech's PN's end in the same, Stop Tech's are drilled, the one's we have been mentioning are dimpled.

https://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq8TK0Z2w2gIVVEsNCh3Cj gqeEAQYAiABEgI2__D_BwE&make=StopTech&model=SportStop+Drilled+Rotor&partnum=128.33137L&GCID=C13674x012-brakes&KEYWORD=brakes_StopTech_SportStop_Drilled_Rotor&code=yes&autoMake=Audi&autoModel=Q5+2.0T+Hybrid&autoYear=2016&autoModClar=&checkVehicle=&src=17540115&ci_sku=128.33137L&ci_sku=128.33137L&ci_src=17588969&ef_id=WszvgQAAAFl65FOo:20180410172857:s

[chip_]

I was actually comparing this -
Stoptech drilled/slotted
127.33136
127.33127


To Dimpled & Slotted
RB-33136
RB-33127

If I can get these at about $100 diff. might be worth it.

[AWEs5]

I purchased the last ones listed on this page

RB-33138 = $175.00
RB-33137 = $145.00:

http://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-dimpled-&-slotted-brake-rotors-black-zinc-coating.php

Premium Dimpled & Slotted Brake Rotors which are cast iron. I don't see an option for Carbon either

http://brakeperformance.com/images/vault/md_RS-RB-callout-dimpled-slotted-brake-rotors.jpg

If I select my car, 2013 S5, the current prices reflect the high carbon rotors. The $175 is AZ special price for cast iron, which is currently unavailable until mid to late May. Athena quoted the AZ price for premium carbon is $255. Which makes sense because the premium carbon is about $100 more than cast iron. That being said, the rear cast iron rotors is available at a price of $155 for AZ members. I can forward my emails with Athena to anyone who is interested. DM me with your email address. Cheers everyone


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[AWEs5]

Just to make myself clear, they currently ONLY have premium high carbon rotors for front. Both cast iron AND premium high carbon rotors are available for the rears.


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[chip_]

Well I ordered

2013 Audi Allroad:
Front two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted rotors (RB-33136) = $188.32 (List Price $215.23)
Rear two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted rotors (RB-33127) = $146.62 (List Price $174.36)

Also picked up the Akebono EUR1322 Front Brake Pad & Akebono EUR1018 Rear Brake Pad

Probably won't get them installed until May but hey the parts are ordered now.

[wkhanna]

i inquired bout getting the high carbon slotted for upgrading my A5 to S5 spec (got the 'S' cals & brackets a while ago)...
they said it would take a little while since they would need to machine the slots in the high carbon rotors...

doing the brake job this weekend, so i could not wait...

so.... i went with StopTech S5 slotted high carbon rotors & street performance pads, SS brake lines & high performance fluid....
.... right about $800 for everything....

will update after installed.....

[chip_]

A few shots of what I got in -

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/AllroadTest/n-c9tSPX/i-KcXm5jr/0/ff6c657f/XL/i-KcXm5jr-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/AllroadTest/n-c9tSPX/i-LdS8cZ2/0/4f39fafe/XL/i-LdS8cZ2-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/AllroadTest/n-c9tSPX/i-DtT4jfF/0/a7797efa/XL/i-DtT4jfF-XL.jpg

[wkhanna]

these are the stoptech high carbon S5 rotors installed on the rear of my A5 using the S5 caliper brackets....

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/843/41572439202_af16c07b03_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/26kBBP9)

[AWEs5]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180428/0d5cc643c94aa9e60d8a6dd3af6a4023.jpg

So happy they had the cast iron. I was told they weren’t going to be in stock until mid May!


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[AWEs5]

A few shots of what I got in -

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/AllroadTest/n-c9tSPX/i-KcXm5jr/0/ff6c657f/XL/i-KcXm5jr-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/AllroadTest/n-c9tSPX/i-LdS8cZ2/0/4f39fafe/XL/i-LdS8cZ2-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/AllroadTest/n-c9tSPX/i-DtT4jfF/0/a7797efa/XL/i-DtT4jfF-XL.jpg

Very nice [emoji106] keep us updated


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[AWEs5]

I got the slotted dimpled and mating them to Hawks HPS 5.0. Currently waiting for anti rattle clips from Audi to come in this Saturday.

Curious, do you guys think a brake fluid flush should be done as well? My 2013 S5 currently has 55K Miles. I got her in July 2017 at 47K.


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[wkhanna]

..... do you guys think a brake fluid flush should be done as well?

absolutely.. brake fluid is hygroscopic, it absorbs water like a parched camel that just crossed the Sahara.....

...then, when the fluid gets hot at the caliper, it boils the water in the fluid, creates water vapor gas bubbles, & then your peddle feels like a wet sponge...

...once evey two years may seem ocd, but at least every time you do a brake job, imho......

[wkhanna]

A few shots of what I got in -


those look V nize, Chip!!!

[AWEs5]

absolutely.. brake fluid is hygroscopic, it absorbs water like a parched camel that just crossed the Sahara.....

...then, when the fluid gets hot at the caliper, it boils the water in the fluid, creates water vapor gas bubbles, & then your peddle feels like a wet sponge...

...once evey two years may seem ocd, but at least every time you do a brake job, imho......

Thank you!


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[AWEs5]

Got my rotors performancebrake.com slotted/dimpled and Hawks HPS 5.0 pads installed today. Car squeaks when braking to a complete stop. Just curious if this is normal. Had an Indy shop do the install. I noticed a lot of residue around the front pads as well. I used this post as a guide and yet I’m worried the install went wrong. Am I over reacting here? Brakeperformance.com included some instructions for break-in procedure. Which is to drive 45mph then slow down to 5mph, repeating 10-20 times. The Indy shop most likely didn’t do this, which isn’t expected.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180503/7d94e1c7e9b866a8a076988123e89e38.jpg


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[wkhanna]

nothing too unusual looking there, imho...

you are still in the 'break-in' mode....

if you can, try the bedding-in procedure...

20 reps seems a bit extreme.... i would think 10 would be sufficient....
...i go from 60 - 70 down to around 20-30....
what is important is to not leave your foot on the bakes if, for some reason, the car is stopped during this process....
if the rotors are hot & the pads are pressed onto the rotor, the pad acts like a heat-sink, pulling heat away from just that portion of the rotor where they are making contact, while the rest of the rotor remains hotter.... this will warp your brand new rotors in a heartbeat.....

remember to let the brakes cool just a bit between cycles & do not slam on the peddle like an F1 driver going into turn one from the drop of the green flag.
you want firm, even application of the pad onto the rotor & you want to generate friction & heat..... but not glowing red -hot & smoking kind of stuff....

[fmzip]

Got my rotors performancebrake.com slotted/dimpled and Hawks HPS 5.0 pads installed today. Car squeaks when braking to a complete stop. Just curious if this is normal. Had an Indy shop do the install. I noticed a lot of residue around the front pads as well. I used this post as a guide and yet I’m worried the install went wrong. Am I over reacting here? Brakeperformance.com included some instructions for break-in procedure. Which is to drive 45mph then slow down to 5mph, repeating 10-20 times. The Indy shop most likely didn’t do this, which isn’t expected.


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Yes, definitely overeacting :)

What you see for residue is normal with a brand new pad.

There isn't much that goes wrong with an install other than not lubricating properly which causes squeal.

I used hawks on my wife's 328, not with the same rotors and she gets the squeal from time to time. It's really next to impossible to mess up a pad/rotor install. I wouldn't think a shop would skip the lube, single most important piece to avoid customer complaints. Is it squealing from one or all? Definitely bed them in..

[chip_]

those look V nize, Chip!!!

Thanks - I think they will get installed this weekend.

[AWEs5]

nothing too unusual looking there, imho...

you are still in the 'break-in' mode....

if you can, try the bedding-in procedure...

20 reps seems a bit extreme.... i would think 10 would be sufficient....
...i go from 60 - 70 down to around 20-30....
what is important is to not leave your foot on the bakes if, for some reason, the car is stopped during this process....
if the rotors are hot & the pads are pressed onto the rotor, the pad acts like a heat-sink, pulling heat away from just that portion of the rotor where they are making contact, while the rest of the rotor remains hotter.... this will warp your brand new rotors in a heartbeat.....

remember to let the brakes cool just a bit between cycles & do not slam on the peddle like an F1 driver going into turn one from the drop of the green flag.
you want firm, even application of the pad onto the rotor & you want to generate friction & heat..... but not glowing red -hot & smoking kind of stuff....

When I picked up the car, I asked the shop owner if I need to break in the brakes and he said the tech already "bedded them in" so I was okay. From the shop to home is about 40 miles. the squeaking didn't occur until I got off the freeway. Guess its normal since it was hot by now.

[AWEs5]

Yes, definitely overeacting :)

What you see for residue is normal with a brand new pad.

There isn't much that goes wrong with an install other than not lubricating properly which causes squeal.

I used hawks on my wife's 328, not with the same rotors and she gets the squeal from time to time. It's really next to impossible to mess up a pad/rotor install. I wouldn't think a shop would skip the lube, single most important piece to avoid customer complaints. Is it squealing from one or all? Definitely bed them in..

Thank you. I guess I was expecting too much and was let down. I'll give it a few more days of "breaking in". ill update later. Glad that performance brakes.com have a lifetime warranty against warps. lol

[wkhanna]

Thanks - I think they will get installed this weekend.

you doing it yourself?

i did the rears while swapping out the calipers using my RossTech Hex-V2 & while it was a little scary doing it for the first time, all went well....
just went slow & deliberate following their instructions verbatim...

[AWEs5]

I went for a drive in the early morning. Took the car to 70 then back down to 30-40 about 2-3 times. Then I let the brakes cool and repeated. I repeated this process about 3x. Then drove 30 miles to work. No more squeaks so that was nice. However I do notice a noise sounds like a sprinkler coming from the rear and/or front. I stopped by the indy shopped that installed my brakes yesterday and told them. The tech that did the install offered to sit in the passenger seat and we took a little drive so I can let him hear the sound.

So he tells me that this is a common noise with slotted rotors. The noise I am hearing is because the "wind is passing through the slots". hmmm. Can anyone confirm? Does anyone else with these rotors experience same noise?

[AWEs5]

I hear it when I drive next to a wall or like a line of cars. Other than this "sprinkler" noise, I have no other complaints. Feels similar to OEM to me. Better bite, but that could because my oem pads were at near 3% life left. lol

[fmzip]

So he tells me that this is a common noise with slotted rotors. The noise I am hearing is because the "wind is passing through the slots". hmmm.

Ummmm.....I don't think so lol. Try recording an audio clip with your phone. Sounds like maybe the dust shield is hitting the rotor slightly?

[Phantom_S5]

I’ve put about 1K miles on these rotors so far and they’re holding up great. Paired them with Akebono pads and I get little to no brake dust on my daily driver. Well worth the upgrade. I do wish I had a bit more bite but overall I am very pleased with the combination of these BP rotors, Akebono pads and fresh brake fluid. Was thinking of doing SS lines but think it’s a bit overkill for my use.

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[chip_]

I’ve put about 1K miles on these rotors so far and they’re holding up great. Paired them with Akebono pads and I get little to no brake dust on my daily driver. Well worth the upgrade. I do wish I had a bit more bite but overall I am very pleased with the combination of these BP rotors, Akebono pads and fresh brake fluid. Was thinking of doing SS lines but think it’s a bit overkill for my use.

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Mine got done on Wed. Agree with your statement on a missing the bite but went this route to lower the brake dust. Need to clean the car tonight and we will see how they perform brake dust wise after a wash.

[fmzip]

Mine got done on Wed. Agree with your statement on a missing the bite but went this route to lower the brake dust. Need to clean the car tonight and we will see how they perform brake dust wise after a wash.

You are going to LOVE the lack of brake dust more so than the minimal loss of bite

[robertstitt]

You are going to LOVE the lack of brake dust more so than the minimal loss of bite

Exactly! I love my Akebonos and so do my peelers.

[pharmtographer]

Anybody have issues with clicking noises or humming after installing the dimpled and slotted rotors? Also is the high carbon option available for the 2015 S3?

[AWEs5]

Anybody have issues with clicking noises or humming after installing the dimpled and slotted rotors? Also is the high carbon option available for the 2015 S3?

Yup I do. Let me guess, you hear it when you are driving next to a line of cars or a wall? I’m also experiencing rattles only when I run over reflectors on the road while changing lanes.

Here are the exact words from the mechanic who did my brake job. He compares the humming to a sprinkler going off. This is due to the wind cutting thru the slots on the rotors. As for the rattles going over the reflectors, he is saying that the Hawks 5.0 pads i bought do not have a material like oem pads that make the pads stick to the rotors. The humming/ “sprinkler” noise annoys the shit out of me. But as long as my windows are up, I don’t hear anything.


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[pharmtographer]

No never had anything on my cars except just blank OEM rotors. I'm curious about this noise and its making me hesitant to spend the money.

[wkhanna]

S5 calipers & the bigger high-carbon stoptech rotors & sport pads up front on my A5 this weekend with some help from my dawgs.....

(....rears already done as noted on previous post...)

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[BeerBrent]

Mine got done on Wed. Agree with your statement on a missing the bite but went this route to lower the brake dust. Need to clean the car tonight and we will see how they perform brake dust wise after a wash.

Got an update @chip_ ? How are you liking the BP rotors and Akebono's? Looking to buy some myself soon.

http://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-dimpled-&-slotted-brake-rotors-black-zinc-coating.php

[chip_]

Got an update @chip_ ? How are you liking the BP rotors and Akebono's? Looking to buy some myself soon.

http://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-dimpled-&-slotted-brake-rotors-black-zinc-coating.php

So far so good. Like I said less bite but less dust so it is a balance but so far so good.

The rotors no longer have any black to them except the mount piece. So no complaints so far.

I am thinking like one of the other guys posted - dust fills in the dimples and slots and therefore they don't appear to be black. I will have to double check this though.

[BeerBrent]

So far so good. Like I said less bite but less dust so it is a balance but so far so good.

The rotors no longer have any black to them except the mount piece. So no complaints so far.

I am thinking like one of the other guys posted - dust fills in the dimples and slots and therefore they don't appear to be black. I will have to double check this though.

[up] Thanks!

[RHawk]

So far so good. Like I said less bite but less dust so it is a balance but so far so good.

The rotors no longer have any black to them except the mount piece. So no complaints so far.

I am thinking like one of the other guys posted - dust fills in the dimples and slots and therefore they don't appear to be black. I will have to double check this though.Did your bp brakes come as a left and right set or all the slots the same? Just curious if they will look backwards on one side versus the other. I'm between the bp and stop tech, but I think I will just do slotted only. And any recommendations on which pads? Only commuting and not much heavy braking unless an emergency stop is needed. Lots of guys run the ebc red/ yellow stuff, but I'm wondering if that's overkill for a commuter.

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[robertstitt]

Did your bp brakes come as a left and right set or all the slots the same? Just curious if they will look backwards on one side versus the other. I'm between the bp and stop tech, but I think I will just do slotted only. And any recommendations on which pads? Only commuting and not much heavy braking unless an emergency stop is needed. Lots of guys run the ebc red/ yellow stuff, but I'm wondering if that's overkill for a commuter.

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Akebono Euro Ceramic....different feel from stock...not as much initial bite but your rims will love you...no dust.

[RHawk]

Akebono Euro Ceramic....different feel from stock...not as much initial bite but your rims will love you...no dust.Are the rotors left and right sided? And where is the best place to order akebono pads?

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[robertstitt]

Are the rotors left and right sided? And where is the best place to order akebono pads?

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Check ebay for the Akebonos. Not sure if the rotors you're looking at are right and left. I went with the Brake Performance rotors as mentioned in the beginning of the thread PLUS got the Audizine discount by calling Athena at Brake Performance. Went with the slotted and dimpled. I don't track nor do I autocross and the Akebonos are fine with me other than have less initial bite than the oem pads. Always thought the oem pads were a bit touchie while the Akebonos are very progressive.

[fmzip]

Are the rotors left and right sided? And where is the best place to order akebono pads?

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Rotors are not side dependent....

Akeebonos were purchased here:


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AA17TO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007FF3P9Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I am loving the Brake performance slotted/dimpled rotors and akeebonos pads. No "sprinkler" noises on my install, DIY here.

My guess is a rotor shield is just touching the rotor which is causing this noise.....

[robertstitt]

I'd still check on ebay. Mine were $97 total for both front and rear Akebono Euro Ultra Premium Ceramic.

[wkhanna]

Rotors are not side dependent....


....so long as they are not slotted.....
....& they are not made with separate left & right castings which have the vents oriented for the rotation direction of each side....

[fmzip]

....so long as they are not slotted.....
....& they are not made with separate left & right castings which have the vents oriented for the rotation direction of each side....


I stand corrected, the slots are to be installed like this, with the same rotation of the wheel. You can see the slight arch in the slot coincides with the shape of the roundness of the wheel

https://www.audizine.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53213&d=1519131831

[RHawk]

I stand corrected, the slots are to be installed like this, with the same rotation of the wheel. You can see the slight arch in the slot coincides with the shape of the roundness of the wheel

https://www.audizine.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53213&d=1519131831Well I think my first question was not detailed enough. Upon some research I understand the slots can face towards the front or the back, no big deal, but are the vanes inside the rotor directional? I'm assuming if the rotor is both left or right side, the vanes are radial and can be put on either side of the car.

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[RHawk]

....so long as they are not slotted.....
....& they are not made with separate left & right castings which have the vents oriented for the rotation direction of each side....I did some looking and the slot does not designate which side of the car it goes on, only the vanes inside the rotor determine left or right. Seems odd because I would like my slots all to slope from the front to the back on both sides, but I guess that has no effect on how the slots perform. Only the internal vanes, if directional, do. Radial vanes have no direction and can be mounted left or right, as the vane is straight from the center of the rotor to the edge of the rotor, they have no curvature whatsoever. So, in conclusion, if I get slotted rotors I may have one side of my car with rotors that look "backwards" when compared to the other side. As long as that does not affect braking performance I guess I'm OK with that.

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[fmzip]

I did some looking and the slot does not designate which side of the car it goes on, only the vanes inside the rotor determine left or right. Seems odd because I would like my slots all to slope from the front to the back on both sides, but I guess that has no effect on how the slots perform. Only the internal vanes, if directional, do. Radial vanes have no direction and can be mounted left or right, as the vane is straight from the center of the rotor to the edge of the rotor, they have no curvature whatsoever. So, in conclusion, if I get slotted rotors I may have one side of my car with rotors that look "backwards" when compared to the other side. As long as that does not affect braking performance I guess I'm OK with that.

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Well I think my first question was not detailed enough. Upon some research I understand the slots can face towards the front or the back, no big deal, but are the vanes inside the rotor directional? I'm assuming if the rotor is both left or right side, the vanes are radial and can be put on either side of the car.

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This is the installation instructions from Brake Performance for their slotted rotors. They are marked left and right

http://thetechhouse.myqnapcloud.com/~fmzip/Audi/rotors1.pdf

[Ford Prefect]

Yup I do. Let me guess, you hear it when you are driving next to a line of cars or a wall? I’m also experiencing rattles only when I run over reflectors on the road while changing lanes.

Here are the exact words from the mechanic who did my brake job. He compares the humming to a sprinkler going off. This is due to the wind cutting thru the slots on the rotors. As for the rattles going over the reflectors, he is saying that the Hawks 5.0 pads i bought do not have a material like oem pads that make the pads stick to the rotors. The humming/ “sprinkler” noise annoys the shit out of me. But as long as my windows are up, I don’t hear anything.


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So this has been driving me nuts. I have GD series EBC and red stuff pads and have been feeling like I did something wrong. I asked my daughter (12) how to spell the sound I made, she said “ch-ch-ch-ch” and specifically not “cha-cha-cha”.

Is this the sound you guys hear? Trying to figure out the “sprinkler sound” If so I’m guessing the slotted/dimpled/drilled reason is right.


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[wkhanna]

...... I’m guessing the slotted/dimpled/drilled reason is right.


....most likely....

....does it make the sound with brakes are not applied......?


i have slotted rotors.... they make a distinctly different sound than plain rotors.... but when the brakes are applied....

,,,,,does not bother me in the slightest... but thats just me.....

[wkhanna]

i inquired bout getting the high carbon slotted for upgrading my A5 to S5 spec (got the 'S' cals & brackets a while ago)...
they said it would take a little while since they would need to machine the slots in the high carbon rotors...

doing the brake job this weekend, so i could not wait...

so.... i went with StopTech S5 slotted high carbon rotors & street performance pads, SS brake lines & high performance fluid....
.... right about $800 for everything....







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......new brakes have been for a while, now.
long enough to have been bedded in for a bit.

before comparison can be made, i need to state the condition of the previous brakes...
the car is a 2011 A5 i purchased a year ago with 52k showing on the odometer.
at that time, the rotors 'looked' to be in decent condition & the acura dealership i got it from had just installed new oem pads.
after a few months of my 10 mile/day city commute combined with occasional other outings & highway miles, the peddle (& braking) began to oscillate & got progressively worse over time.

needless to say, the braking was less than acceptable for a car of this weight & relative performance.


so i went from substandard oem A5 to S5 cals & the stoptech highcarbon rotors (larger diameter) with stoptech sport pads & SS lines on both the front & rear.
now that they are bedded in the overall increase in performance is significant, as one might expect.

cold bite is V good. some of the best i have ever had.
when warmed up, these are working really well.

afa dust, surprisingly, it seems quite low to me.
definitively less than previous.

what i can compare is the performance of The Wife's oem brakes on her 2011 A4 to my 2011 A5 w/ the S5/stoptech upgrade....

...night & day with regards to stopping ability.
dust is far lower, too.


i would have been ok with more dust from the stoptechs, cuz i put performance above aesthetics & having to wash dirty wheels frequently....
for now, i am exceptionally pleased with the way this package is performing from all aspects....

jmho... ymmv.... ; )

[Ford Prefect]

....most likely....

....does it make the sound with brakes are not applied......?


i have slotted rotors.... they make a distinctly different sound than plain rotors.... but when the brakes are applied....

,,,,,does not bother me in the slightest... but thats just me.....

Now I have to check. I think it does it off brakes but gets loud while on.


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[AWEs5]

So this has been driving me nuts. I have GD series EBC and red stuff pads and have been feeling like I did something wrong. I asked my daughter (12) how to spell the sound I made, she said “ch-ch-ch-ch” and specifically not “cha-cha-cha”.

Is this the sound you guys hear? Trying to figure out the “sprinkler sound” If so I’m guessing the slotted/dimpled/drilled reason is right.


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“Ch-ch-ch-ch” sounds about right. I brought it back to shop that installed it as well as another indy shop for inspection. Nothing seem out of the ordinary. the noise doesn’t bother me anymore. What still bothers me is when my rear wheels go over the reflectors while changing lanes, it sounds like something is lose. It’s a slight rattle. Again I had 2 shops look at it and they both said it was fine. Never heard this noise before replacing the brakes. I replaced the front anti rattle clips during the install so it can’t be that and plus noise is coming from rear. There are no anti rattle clips in the rear I don’t think


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[wkhanna]

“Ch-ch-ch-ch” sounds about right. I brought it back to shop that installed it as well as another indy shop for inspection. Nothing seem out of the ordinary. the noise doesn’t bother me anymore. What still bothers me is when my rear wheels go over the reflectors while changing lanes, it sounds like something is lose. It’s a slight rattle. Again I had 2 shops look at it and they both said it was fine. Never heard this noise before replacing the brakes. I replaced the front anti rattle clips during the install so it can’t be that and plus noise is coming from rear. There are no anti rattle clips in the rear I don’t think


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i use a V thin film of high-temp rtv on the non-piston side pads....

[BucDan]

Can I assume that the general consensus about the pads, both semi-metallic and ceramic in the kit, aren't that great? Better off going with Akebonos and just the rotors only? When you guys are changing rotors and pads, are you also changing the boots and the clips?

What anti vibration compound are you guys using? Will likely get a set and take advantage of their deal before the end of the month. I'm at about 4mm for the front pads right now, but this deal seems too good.

[wkhanna]

Can I assume that the general consensus about the pads, both semi-metallic and ceramic in the kit, aren't that great?

i can not speak to any experiance with their pads, but would guess for a daily-driver they are fine.


Better off going with Akebonos and just the rotors only?
again, not sure if the Ake's are lower dust than the ceramic ones in their kit...
...i only know that i have never heard anyone with Ake's that was not happy with the all-around performance/low-dust characteristics....


When you guys are changing rotors and pads, are you also changing the boots and the clips?

....always.... why would anyone not insure their brakes are in tip-top condition, especially when doing the work yourself....?
....the replacement parts not expensive.... i consider them 'one-use disposables'......
....V cheap insurance & what could more important than properly functioning brakes??????


What anti vibration compound are you guys using?

....i just use a V thin film of high-temp RTV ......a good buddy here swears by CRC 05016 Disc Brake Quiet (https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/crc-disc-brake-quiet-4-fl-oz-05016/12032707-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=12032707-P&adtype=pla_with_promotion&gclid=Cj0KCQjw37fZBRD3ARIsAJihSr3sCMRljB3AWMKvXzoc 8JMjg9ET7iDbwKp4vBl3mqUHjvBmpF6Rn4MaAi88EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)

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[BucDan]

i can not speak to any experiance with their pads, but would guess for a daily-driver they are fine.


again, not sure if the Ake's are lower dust than the ceramic ones in their kit...
...i only know that i have never heard anyone with Ake's that was not happy with the all-around performance/low-dust characteristics....



....always.... why would anyone not insure their brakes are in tip-top condition, especially when doing the work yourself....?
....the replacement parts not expensive.... i consider them 'one-use disposables'......
....V cheap insurance & what could more important than properly functioning brakes??????



....i just use a V thin film of high-temp RTV ......a good buddy here swears by CRC 05016 Disc Brake Quiet (https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/crc-disc-brake-quiet-4-fl-oz-05016/12032707-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=12032707-P&adtype=pla_with_promotion&gclid=Cj0KCQjw37fZBRD3ARIsAJihSr3sCMRljB3AWMKvXzoc 8JMjg9ET7iDbwKp4vBl3mqUHjvBmpF6Rn4MaAi88EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)

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i fully endorse this stuff (https://www.wurthusa.com/Chemical-Product/Specialty-Brake/SBS-Brake-Treatment-Spray-II/p/189311069):

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Awesome, thanks for the response!

[Petrolhead]

im a little confused regarding the ceramic pads. from their site it states their premium ceramic brake pads "are NOT recommended for heavy cars, trucks and SUV's because they do not have a high temperature fade resistance and friction level". i always thought ceramic brakes/pads were specifically meant to be used in high performance/temperature applications, hence why they are offered on high performance and race cars. and iirc, the main complaint regarding akebono ceramic pads i have read on this site are that they lack an initial bite on a daily driver because normal driving conditions do not produce enough heat.

from tire rack, "These pads use ceramic compounds and copper fibers in place of the semi-metallic pad's steel fibers. This allows the ceramic pads to handle high brake temperatures with less heat fade, provide faster recovery after the stop, and generate less dust and wear on both the pads and rotors. And from a comfort standpoint, ceramic compounds provide much quieter braking because the ceramic compound helps dampen noise by generating a frequency beyond the human hearing range."

am i missing something?

[wkhanna]

im a little confused regarding the ceramic pads. from their site it states their premium ceramic brake pads "are NOT recommended for heavy cars, trucks and SUV's because they do not have a high temperature fade resistance and friction level"...........

am i missing something?

i agree, this is contrary to all other descriptions of ceramic pads i remember reading.

[Petrolhead]

Just sent a email to Athena requesting a quote!

Regarding the noise produced by dimpled rotors, does anyone know if drilled rotors are any quieter or do they both produce the same noise?

[robertstitt]

Just sent a email to Athena requesting a quote!

Regarding the noise produced by dimpled rotors, does anyone know if drilled rotors are any quieter or do they both produce the same noise?

I have the slotted and dimple rotors purchased from them and I don't hear any noise. BTW, great price and service from these guys. Buy the akebono euro ceramics. Different feel from the stock but very progressive and you'll love your wheels.

[Petrolhead]

Placed my order yesterday and Athena hooked it up!

Front two (2) Premium Cross-Drilled & Slotted Brake Rotors (CB-33138) = $150.00
Rear two (2) Premium Cross-Drilled & Slotted Brake Rotors (CB-33137) = $125.00

Front two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted Brake Rotors (RB-33138) = $175.00
Rear two (2) Premium Dimpled & Slotted Brake Rotors (RB-33137) = $155.00

i decided to go with regular cross drilled and slotted since they are cheaper and they also have a lifetime warranty which covers warping and cracking! i have never seen any company offer a warranty more than a year on brakes let alone a lifetime warranty for of all things, warping and cracking! how do these people make money?

i don't track my car so i don't think this will be an issue anyways and a couple ounces lighter can't hurt right? i also ended up getting the akebonos for about $111 off ebay. im a fan of the instant bite from the stock pads but i freaking hate cleaning my wheels and that god awful squeal during the winter months. very interested to see how these perform. do you just have to push down on the brake peddle harder or it doesn't matter? wonder if anyone has done a 60-0 comparison.

[chip_]

i also ended up getting the akebonos for about $111 off ebay. im a fan of the instant bite from the stock pads but i freaking hate cleaning my wheels and that god awful squeal during the winter months. very interested to see how these perform. do you just have to push down on the brake peddle harder or it doesn't matter? wonder if anyone has done a 60-0 comparison.

The Pads make a huge difference in brake dust - almost zero now. The bite is not there like stock but after driving it a bit I got used to it. All worth it in the end. Less bite = Less brake dust!

[wkhanna]

The Pads make a huge difference in brake dust - almost zero now. The bite is not there like stock but after driving it a bit I got used to it. All worth it in the end. Less bite = Less brake dust!

i know many folks are V happy with akebonos &the other low-dust pads out there....
...but loosing cold bite is a sacrifice i could never live with.
performance is just to important to me....

i am V happy with the stoptech sport pads.... xlent cold bite & V little dust, imho....
& since i started work & commute in the city a few years ago, cold bite is even more critical...
a shorter stop of just a few inches can mean the difference between a momentary rise in bp, or a trip to the body shop...

i also put ceramic coating on my wheels, & cleaning what little dust they accumulate in a weeks worth of driving is a breeze, now....


but i am glad for everyone that that has the low-dust pads & they are satisfied with the products they purchases.[up]

[airjordan223]

I've been working with Athena on pricing, has anyone bought the RS5/R8 rotors from them?

https://i.imgur.com/43qYayW.png

I was quoted $572.90 for the front pair.

[G1ennR]

I just bought a 2018 A6 with only 17K miles, but the rotors look ugly & grooved. The grooving isn't really deep & braking performance is fine, but the discs look bad. I'll leave them on until they're worn out, but I'll be shopping for the grooved & dimpled discs when it's time for new ones.

I've noticed my daughter's VW Tiguan has grooving on the front rotors. VAG must use abrasive pads or soft rotors. Our other brands rotors look nice and smooth, like they should. I wonder if Porsche rotors are prone to grooving?

Thanks OP,

[salamanca]

Just ordered these to replace oems on my 2013 A4; I hope I made the right choice.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-stoptech-parts/street-performance-axle-pack-service-kit-drilled-slotted-front-rear/935.33005~stp/

[fmzip]

Just ordered these to replace oems on my 2013 A4; I hope I made the right choice.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-stoptech-parts/street-performance-axle-pack-service-kit-drilled-slotted-front-rear/935.33005~stp/

Those are good. Dusty pads though.

[salamanca]

Those are good. Dusty pads though.

Good to know, thx! What should I look out for in the future for reduced dust with pads?

I have black wheels but still, dust is annoying

[fmzip]

Good to know, thx! What should I look out for in the future for reduced dust with pads?

I have black wheels but still, dust is annoying

Akeebono Ceramics....zilch for brake dust. A little less initial bite but that's the price you pay for dustless. I LOVE them!

You could always sell the stoptech pads before you use them. Well worth the tradeoff for dustless in my opinion unless.............you race around and drive like a madman [drive][race]

[abbottcostello]

i can not speak to any experiance with their pads, but would guess for a daily-driver they are fine.


again, not sure if the Ake's are lower dust than the ceramic ones in their kit...
...i only know that i have never heard anyone with Ake's that was not happy with the all-around performance/low-dust characteristics....



....always.... why would anyone not insure their brakes are in tip-top condition, especially when doing the work yourself....?
....the replacement parts not expensive.... i consider them 'one-use disposables'......
....V cheap insurance & what could more important than properly functioning brakes??????



....i just use a V thin film of high-temp RTV ......a good buddy here swears by CRC 05016 Disc Brake Quiet (https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/crc-disc-brake-quiet-4-fl-oz-05016/12032707-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=12032707-P&adtype=pla_with_promotion&gclid=Cj0KCQjw37fZBRD3ARIsAJihSr3sCMRljB3AWMKvXzoc 8JMjg9ET7iDbwKp4vBl3mqUHjvBmpF6Rn4MaAi88EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/wcsstore/CVWEB/staticproductimage//N3223/large/12032707_crc_05016_pri_larg.jpg


i fully endorse this stuff (https://www.wurthusa.com/Chemical-Product/Specialty-Brake/SBS-Brake-Treatment-Spray-II/p/189311069):

http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/images/detailed/1/189311069.jpg?t=1485100348

I have the CRC Disc Brake Quiet - 4oz. I think I bought about 10 years ago & still have 1 or 2 oz. remaining. Dries really slow, forget the rec. dry time, but I now put it on the new pads as soon as I start a brake job, I've thought about using RTV like you do, but that damn 4 oz. bottle is just glaring at me from the shelf, EVERY TIME[o_o] & that ends that!
That SBS II Treatment intrigues me. Looking at the label, it seems to show using it on the pads wear side (friction material) & on the rotor surfaces, so I went to their website to check and sure enough!
Here is their product description:
SBS Brake Treatment II is a revolutionary spray-on metalizing treatment designed to prevent brake noise at the source. When applied as directed, microfine aluminum particles form a molecular bond with the rotor/drum friction surfaces. This composite surface finish ends annoying vibrations and brake squeal at the source, giving the assurance of a quality brake job.

Features
- Spray a light mist of SBS Brake Treatment II directly to the rotors/drums and pads/shoes
- Effective on all brake systems
- No drying time required
- Benefits last up to 1 year or 10,000 miles
- Prevents rust and seizure of lugnuts
- Extends brake life
- Effectiveness tested from -100?F to +1800?F

Gonna have to research a bit, my buddy owns a restoration shop & uses a lot of Wurth products, interested to see if he has heard of or tried it! Is that how you are using it?

[wkhanna]

Is that how you are using it?

yes...[:d]

[stoked_S4]

Replaced front BP rotors last week. Athena gave me a good price. I thought I warped to front rotors but seems that wore them all the way down to slots and dimples in 20K miles 2.5 years. THe BP pads had still 1/2 left but I bought the package with their pads which were fine. Noticed that rears are also almost gone and will be ordering them as well. Get the new sensor wire which seems to be under $20 wholesale.

Also will change the OEM hoses with stainless steel. Those who changed it which brand did you opt for? Also can we use stoptech fluid that BP carries on their site?

[AidansDaddy]

Stoked - I'm using ECS brand SS lines. Only other brand I'm familiar with is Goodridge. Positive experience with both, would recommend either one.

[stoked_S4]

Stoked - I'm using ECS brand SS lines. Only other brand I'm familiar with is Goodridge. Positive experience with both, would recommend either one.

Thanks mate! I've gone with ECS exact fit SS lines. I went with OEM VW/Audi fluid after suggestion from my cousin who runs a mechanic shop and tunes his cars as well. Needed a brake flush anyway since audicare is long expired.

So to recap, I have Brake Performance dimpled/slotted rotors and their high performance pads that come in their bundle in all corners with ECS Stainless steel lines with OEM fluid. I don't track the car but for daily driving and some emergency highway stopping there is no fade. Better than OEM overall without the OEM initial bite; it is more linear feel. No brake dust or noise. Stopping power is much better(got new Michelin AS3+ tires as well so that helps). Rotors do make chirping sound, guessing from dimples when new which goes away after few thousand miles.

The 1st set of BP rotors lasted about 22k miles but their pads still had 1/2 life left but didn't keep them. Another tip is to order that $1 screw which holds the rotor to suspension assembly. ECS has them. Order it with an oil change kit or something else you need and save it for the day you need the rotors done. One of the screws was shot and had to be drilled out. Replaced all four when we did the rear brakes with new lines.

[sailakfan]

Hello all,

Reviving a dormant thread.

I need a brake job in the near future so started researching and came across this thread. I was about to buy the ECS rotors but this thread and some other posts have convinced me to consider these. Just curious why there no activity here since last year.

I have black wheels so if I go with the BP rotors and Akebono, the light dust will still show. Currently I have oem pads and the dark wheels does a good job of hiding the dust. So can you all suggest pads?

Thanks in advance.

Thanks,
Bala

[fmzip]

Just wanted to bump this thread again as I've been pleased with my original purchase from Brake performance dimpled/slotted rotors back in 2017

Time to reorder and Athena still passes along the Audizone discount. Going to go with Cross drilled/Slotted this time around and also put on some Porsche Macan calipers while I am at it.

Good Morning -

Re: Audizine Discount

It's nice to hear from you again! Please see Audizine pricing for....

2015 Audi S4:
Front two (2) Premium Cross-Drilled & Slotted (BLACK) Brake Rotors (CB-33138) = $162.59 = Your Price (Current Online Sale Price = $183.24)
To Order with Audizine discounted pricing, please call Athena toll Free at 1-866-756-5536

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