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Okedokey
07-18-2017, 06:02 AM
You're money alone, specifically 2x priced items keeps this forum running. Noted. Sorry. If I tell you how to fix your over priced harness with 2 wires in next to no time it will bring down the cost of your harness?

Since this forum runs on purely your payments, what do I get in compensation for my fix? $3 per harness sold? Or do you take the fix and still charge $50 per hour?

I think I'll just post how to do it for free once I'm back from vacation and direct people to a cheaper canbus.

Personally I think you should pull your head in. The forum supports keep this site going. You pay nothing. Sure go ahead a put up a DIY, otherwise imo you should shut your gob.

geebus
07-18-2017, 06:08 AM
Reminds me of mccorkle. Wouldn't be surprised if he was one and the same...


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sasquatters
07-18-2017, 06:34 AM
My gob was shut and Enfig quoted me and kept going. I know that sponsors run this site. I buy plenty from them all. Trying to sell a product that is 2x the price and charging $50 labor is just ridiculous.

@geebus You're just looking to get in on some action. Start a fight elsewhere. You haven posted anything helpful in this thread that I can find.

Let this be done. There's no reason to continue this. I posted my radio. That's what this thread it. Next.

SoFarGon
07-18-2017, 06:51 AM
My gob was shut and Enfig quoted me and kept going. I know that sponsors run this site. I buy plenty from them all. Trying to sell a product that is 2x the price and charging $50 labor is just ridiculous.

@geebus You're just looking to get in on some action. Start a fight elsewhere. You haven posted anything helpful in this thread that I can find.

Let this be done. There's no reason to continue this. I posted my radio. That's what this thread it. Next.

Is it? We now live in a world where people complain about others trying to pay their bills by offering a turn key solution. If you don't like their prices then don't buy from them.

sasquatters
07-18-2017, 06:53 AM
Feel free to pay double for your bills. Triple if you like. I'm not sure if you picked up on this or not, but I'm not buying from them. Anyone else want to confirm what we already know? Perhaps someone else can tell me I'm wrong or to play nice. From the meets I've been to, right now I would fit in perfectly.

SoFarGon
07-18-2017, 07:03 AM
Feel free to pay double for your bills. Triple if you like.

I have no issue paying for something that makes my life easier. Some people are just cheap.

If you don't like the forum there is a log out button on the top right, I'm sure we would all appreciate you using that button.

sasquatters
07-18-2017, 07:04 AM
I have no problem paying for something that makes my life easier either. However why would you willingly and knowingly pay twice as much for the exact same product? I'm such a jerk.

geebus
07-18-2017, 07:13 AM
I have no problem paying for something that makes my life easier either. However why would you willingly and knowingly pay twice as much for the exact same product? I'm such a jerk.

Oh, you're just so for the People eh? Stfu. All of a sudden I should get out because ironically, you're the forum police now? You're a joke.


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sasquatters
07-18-2017, 07:20 AM
Oh, you're just so for the People eh? Stfu. All of a sudden I should get out because ironically, you're the forum police now? You're a joke.


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You sound like a crazy person. I'm going to enjoy my day. Thank you for your very insightful posts.

wding2000
07-18-2017, 05:50 PM
I bought this Android 6 unit on ebay (LINK (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Standard-Radio-Android-6-0-Octa-Core-DVD-Player-GPS-Navi-For-Audi-A4-S4-RS4/322535977741?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%2 6asc%3D44757%26meid%3D7ba1d7e4fd9e46439ff9ffbd3ad4 dde4%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dl o%26sd%3D302343514700)).

It has the usual wiring and harness. What nice is that it comes with radio amp wire connected (and dual fakra), and RCA setup for BOSE audio. All I did is to connect needed wires to back panel, remove old symphonyII+, plug in big connector and radio fakra, and done. It took me more time to remove glove box ipod connector and thread USB and GPS through right side to glove box. Now some key feature review.

(1) Radio perception. With powered radio amp, it has very clear radio. About infamous humming, I only notice some when turning on lights (weird?), sometimes. Other than that, it is more or less not noticeable.
(2) BT music and Nav (more on that) vol much lower than radio or local music, esp. nav voice direction. It seems system vol is low by default than radio or DVD. Notice there is a factory setting you can change default vol for various functions. Will try that.
(3) CANbus. Wheel control just works, but I cannot find how to customize, but it is fine. DIS: sort of. This is described as dual-channel, but only shows radio FM freq, no RDS info, and only when you push station directly on screen, not by wheel control. Thus DIS is limited to of no use - but this is not deal breaker.
(4) Phone call. Internal mic seems work okay - ext mic probably works better. But I can do w/o.
(5) I have not tried play DVD or any video, but MP3 on SD and DVD works just fine.
(6) Nav. This unit does not come with offline map, thus looking at $25 for an app, unless you use Google map or WAZE through phone data.
Overall, I am happy with this unit.

Does anyone have experience with wireless reverse cam? I am kind of lazy to wire through panel.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_8023.JPG

Professor
07-20-2017, 02:14 PM
Our dash kit looks recessed with that radio unless you trim off the back and glue it on but we have the rest of the parts. There is an article under the dash kit that explains it.


I hope the dash trim kit manufacturers can keep up with this trend..

Do you mean trim off the entire "wall" in the back that runs around the headunit? That seems tricky to do and keep it looking clean. Have you trimmed one of there yet? any pointers?

Christian@enfig
07-25-2017, 04:09 AM
I hope the dash trim kit manufacturers can keep up with this trend..

Do you mean trim off the entire "wall" in the back that runs around the headunit? That seems tricky to do and keep it looking clean. Have you trimmed one of there yet? any pointers?

All the new kits are being adjusted for this issue. But since the B6/B7 market is past its prime it's not worth the retooling for a new kit.

I just use a belt sander to grind it down to the edge and then some velcro to stick it to the back plate. When you look at the face plate there is a straight line that goes all the way around. That's the line you have to trim to.

You can also get a more expensive radio that does not have a shallow face. Looks like only the entry level radios have a thin face.

We do have another kit that is not seamless that can also work but we have to test it because there are 2 or 3 different types of radio cavities than can be found behind the dash. And they have different openings on the sides.

** Just ordered a plastic cutter to see if I can sell them already modified. I'll keep you updated.

oskars77
08-01-2017, 07:55 AM
Only thing I've noticed is that the speakers get very loud very quick with the radio volume as opposed to Bluetooth audio needing to be much higher than the radio making the switch back potentially very loud. It came from china so it was pretty cheap, they have android based ones and windows CE based ones. I have the windows CE one. Bluetooth connected easily and the entire unit was plug and play and has a nice reverse feature to flip to a camera if you choose to get one. Haven't noticed any real problems yet though I haven't spent a ton of time with it. Here's the link to my purchase and a pic of the plug and play harness. One was for the wiring and the other for the antenna as well as a gps module and free Kudos maps for gps.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/322252352743

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/d0bc2f4ce0dbf83f8d6bb4c52881e96b.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/9d0250e4c0465016c9798b0ab5641fe3.jpg


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I just purchased this unit from Xtrons, should receive it this week, do you have Bose sound system? I do not have Bose Sound system and I read I have to do some changes to the wiring did have to do such?

audi5inline
08-02-2017, 02:33 AM
Have a problem with mine, have the erisin 6028. Unit powers up but after 10 sec i can hear the amp in the back off the car turn off, at the same time the unit also shuts off. Anyone a clue ? Trying to make this work in a S4 b6 2003 with full bose

Okedokey
08-02-2017, 05:46 AM
Have a problem with mine, have the erisin 6028. Unit powers up but after 10 sec i can hear the amp in the back off the car turn off, at the same time the unit also shuts off. Anyone a clue ? Trying to make this work in a S4 b6 2003 with full bose

Check the always on power is correctly wired.

audi5inline
08-02-2017, 05:46 AM
Seems to be. My rns-d worked without a problem.

StatusQuo
08-02-2017, 09:32 AM
I got the same Xtrons octacore unit. Anyone know what the red connector for the stock Symphony II radio is for? I didn't connect it to the new radio.

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audi5inline
08-02-2017, 02:09 PM
seems like the same problem...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUfmyoqqpZ4

audi5inline
08-02-2017, 03:16 PM
i think i know the solution,

the rns-d has the can/l and can/h connections on a different place than the "normal" concert 2. see these pictures below.

http://pinoutguide.com/images/upload/pinout_1588031504_ford_rns.jpg

http://pinoutguide.com/images/upload/pinout_1744560332_audi_concert-cd.gif

the erisin cables are designed for the concert 2 pinout, so you have the swap the cables for the unit the work. i will try this tommorow and report back

audi5inline
08-03-2017, 04:36 AM
no, didnt work. i think the rns-d pinout is way different than other audi headunits...

audi5inline
08-03-2017, 08:50 AM
i was on the right track..just needed to change some wires in de boot at the tmc box because the can signal gets changed there for the rns-d. connected the "real" can cables to the ones that go to the radio and it works !

wjg22
08-05-2017, 08:01 AM
Anyone want to help me troubleshoot a rearview camera issue? This is what I'm seeing:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170805/690c6c7cca0270616f0c678fbd232b63.jpg

I would guess from what's displayed on the screen that it's either a camera hardware issue, or a video signal issue. Connections all appear to be good (camera getting power, head unit getting trigger signal, connections are shrink wrapped and/or soldered, and everything was working normally yesterday). It did rain last night, fwiw. Don't really want to yank out the video RCA to see if it was severed somehow, but will if I have to. Idk if this is a recognizable issue, or if I should just chalk it up to an eBay camera failing.

Edit: nvm, issue resolved. Pulled the head unit and the power to the camera connection was nearly undone.

sasquatters
08-15-2017, 04:57 PM
For those that I said I would post the rear speakers not working to: here it is.

I thought it was two wires but I believe it's only one. See the thick orange wire? That's the amp on wire.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170815/c83d8d28fe3d26e313095bb114a0e0be.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170815/0feab0a7330ae29eae254df46d34aa3a.jpg

There needs to be connected to a pin on the top connector. The brown wire here.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170815/9e6b09f8b94b6e33e069818966c22eac.jpg

My original issue was the radio not turning off and I fixed that with the Roadnav canbus for $60. It also came with new cables that had this wire fix included. My new problem is that I recently bought B6 Recaro seats and the rear speakers are no longer working. If anyone can help with this I would appreciate it.

I believe the amp is normally under the seat and but I'm not sure and I probably need something else rewired now. Woohoo.

I hope my fix helps people and I look forward to finding a fix for my new amp issue. [emoji1360]

Hightekflytech
08-16-2017, 05:59 AM
Anyone want to help me troubleshoot a rearview camera issue? This is what I'm seeing:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170805/690c6c7cca0270616f0c678fbd232b63.jpg

I would guess from what's displayed on the screen that it's either a camera hardware issue, or a video signal issue. Connections all appear to be good (camera getting power, head unit getting trigger signal, connections are shrink wrapped and/or soldered, and everything was working normally yesterday). It did rain last night, fwiw. Don't really want to yank out the video RCA to see if it was severed somehow, but will if I have to. Idk if this is a recognizable issue, or if I should just chalk it up to an eBay camera failing.

Edit: nvm, issue resolved. Pulled the head unit and the power to the camera connection was nearly undone.

I am having this same issue, what did you hook the camera power up to? The harness wire?

wjg22
08-16-2017, 09:11 AM
Camera is powered by the head unit. I tapped into a red 12v source wire. Also ran a primary wire from the reverse lights (blue/red, If memory serves) to the backup cam wire on the back of my head unit (forget the color)

Hightekflytech
08-16-2017, 04:07 PM
Camera is powered by the head unit. I tapped into a red 12v source wire. Also ran a primary wire from the reverse lights (blue/red, If memory serves) to the backup cam wire on the back of my head unit (forget the color)

Got you, I'll try that this evening. Thank you

Hightekflytech
08-16-2017, 06:21 PM
And we're in business
Turn you sir

wjg22
08-16-2017, 07:51 PM
Glad you got it worked out. It's a great cheap mod, even if it's just for cool points.

Hightekflytech
08-16-2017, 10:30 PM
Glad you got it worked out. It's a great cheap mod, even if it's just for cool points.

That it is
I only paid $15 for my camera and its definitely worth it

das2auto
09-05-2017, 09:23 PM
Recently installed an xtrons android RNS-E Rep. No Rear sound, had it working by messing with the master controls and tightening the RCA's, now back to no Sound from rears and sub.

I know lots of post with same problem, does anyone have a fix? I've been searching. sorry if it is deep in this thread somewhere.

I'm on an Non-bose A4.

Christian@enfig
09-06-2017, 11:37 AM
For those that I said I would post the rear speakers not working to: here it is.

I thought it was two wires but I believe it's only one. See the thick orange wire? That's the amp on wire.

My original issue was the radio not turning off and I fixed that with the Roadnav canbus for $60. It also came with new cables that had this wire fix included. My new problem is that I recently bought B6 Recaro seats and the rear speakers are no longer working. If anyone can help with this I would appreciate it.

I believe the amp is normally under the seat and but I'm not sure and I probably need something else rewired now. Woohoo.

I hope my fix helps people and I look forward to finding a fix for my new amp issue. [emoji1360]

Ohhhhhh I see your confusion. You though I said "NO" rear audio. All my harnesses are properly wired with the amp turn on wire so your modification is not needed. I said "LOW" audio.

The problem our hilo box fixes is on a standard aftermarket radio that has 2V or 4 V outputs. The factory radio has at least double the voltage so when you upgrade your radio you actually are using a weaker signal. It is very obvious on non bose cars since only the rear is amplified. When you swap put the radio on non bose cars the rear speakers and subs are half the volume when compared to the front speakers. As most of you without Bose can confirm.

On a Bose system the entire system sounds flat so it's not as easy to tell.

You can do the test yourself at home. Set a multi meter to Volts AC (not DC). Download the 1KHz file from the following site and put it onto a CD that can play on your factory radio. https://www.mtx.com/testtones

Play your radio at 3/4 volume with the speakers disconnected. Both factory and aftermarket and meter each output. You will see that the output of most aftermarket radios is well below the factory output.

On a radio vith 2V outputs you are about half the volume. On a radio with 4 V outputs you are losing about 25%. I don't know of any radio with 5V outputs anymore so I cant speak on those.

Our hilo box also helps with engine whine and turn on/off pop. Feel free to ask any questions that you may have.

Oh and since we are always competitively priced with the rest of the market. Our canbus box is also $60. And has been for at least a year.
http://enfigcarstereo.com/ENFIG_SRWH_AU2.html
http://enfigcarstereo.com/media/products/enfig/ss_size1/ENFIG_SRWH_AUD2.jpg

The one that fixes the audio issues is more because it's better and does more.
http://enfigcarstereo.com/ENFIG_SRWH_AUD2_HILO.html
http://enfigcarstereo.com/media/products/enfig/ss_size1/ENFIG_SRWH_AUD2_HILO.jpg

docurley
09-06-2017, 11:29 PM
Just a simple hi/Lol converter on the units speaker outputs will do the job.

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Christian@enfig
09-07-2017, 07:26 AM
Just a simple hi/Lol converter on the units speaker outputs will do the job.

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That is why our harness is called the HILO harness. It also does a better job at filtering out noise than a regular hilo. Which is why we have it imported from Italy. If you already have a working canbus box I don't recommend getting our harness. It's way to expensive. But if you need a canbus box it already comes wired in and if you are installing a brand name radio like pioneer or Kenwood we have a direct plug harness that requires zero cutting.

AudiKilla
09-07-2017, 08:41 AM
My car came from factory with symphony 2 and no bose. After changing to symphony 2+, I have the low rear volume issue.

How to fix it?

Is this what I need? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000K50HJE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

docurley
09-07-2017, 10:22 AM
My car came from factory with symphony 2 and no bose. After changing to symphony 2+, I have the low rear volume issue.

How to fix it?

Is this what I need? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000K50HJE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
No, that's just a noise suppressor which on some units is needed due to engine noise filtering through.

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das2auto
09-07-2017, 06:57 PM
Just a simple hi/Lol converter on the units speaker outputs will do the job.

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And this will fix the no sound from the rears?

This looks like it has the speaker connects. Will this work?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/metra-two-channel-line-output-converter/1265702.p?skuId=1265702&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=291d1ffa-09b4-4ddb-8170-bba0cb017212&ksprof_id=18&ksaffcode=pg196730&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

Thanks so much

docurley
09-07-2017, 10:50 PM
And this will fix the no sound from the rears?

This looks like it has the speaker connects. Will this work?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/metra-two-channel-line-output-converter/1265702.p?skuId=1265702&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=291d1ffa-09b4-4ddb-8170-bba0cb017212&ksprof_id=18&ksaffcode=pg196730&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

Thanks so much
They look like they will do the job, if the amps on then this is all you need and you only need one to connect to the speaker out hi level then to the looms RCA's

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Okedokey
09-08-2017, 06:09 AM
Just find a cheap OEM amp, plug it in, replace speakers

das2auto
09-08-2017, 11:01 AM
Just find a cheap OEM amp, plug it in, replace speakers

Thats my next step, when I can afford it. This Hi/lo convertor is $14 bucks and looks like it will work with a pretty simple splice install.

Any recommendations on affordable speakers for the B7?

tetskoma
09-09-2017, 01:52 PM
Here's the install I setup with an Xtron. Everything's English and functions nicely. Plus besides the chrome knobs it looks oem.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/b92ded239c4e8c665155276acaaadcdc.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/d5bbb893440016746974e751c468ff7c.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/19ffbd0a8fb2aff878d751859a710f7d.jpg


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I am thinking of buying the same unit (Xtrons or Joying whatever on ebay) for my A4 2007. How is the screen? Is the screen visible in daylight with plenty of sunshine?
I used to have Xtrons unit in golf MK5, I could hardly see the screen in a bright sunny day due to the reflection. I put anti-glare screen protector, and it did help a bit, but still not bright enough. My 3 years old Sony Xperia moblie phone was much brighter than Xtrons unit.

About two years since, I am wondering if the screen has improved....!?

Thank you for your help.

das2auto
09-09-2017, 03:08 PM
Screen is awesome. Still some glare in bright bright sunlight, but that I don't really see how that is avoidable with out spending $$$ on a glass / glare reducing screen. W/ the Xtrons octacore @ around $400 delivered I've found it to be one of the best interior mods for the money. Just have to figure out rear speakers.

tetskoma
09-09-2017, 04:35 PM
Screen is awesome. Still some glare in bright bright sunlight, but that I don't really see how that is avoidable with out spending $$$ on a glass / glare reducing screen. W/ the Xtrons octacore @ around $400 delivered I've found it to be one of the best interior mods for the money. Just have to figure out rear speakers.

Thank you. Glare in bright day was only my concern. I will order octa-core one soon!! Yes, I know the rear-speaker issue. I can just rewire or get hi-low converter to get the balance right.

Audi-a4sline
09-10-2017, 06:39 AM
It's a great unit, bright enough to reduce most glare but it'll get blocked on very sunny days when the suns directly hitting it. Well worth the money I only paid like $300 from eBay.

- - - Updated - - -

Rear speakers? Mine was literally all plug and play down to the new gps module.

seanf86
09-10-2017, 06:13 PM
Just put an xtrons in my b6, the octocore one, I paid $329 shipped. Rear speakers are non issue, looks like they've added a line out adapter for the RCA lines to the rear amp as there's a large heat shrink section in the harness. The glare on the screen is a bit irritating but I still have the screen protector on. The canbus for the dis display is lacking a bit as well, it's sluggish and sometimes the radio station displayed says 00000 overall I'm happy, I just need to figure out how to download google maps to the GPS SD card.

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das2auto
09-10-2017, 10:35 PM
It's a great unit, bright enough to reduce most glare but it'll get blocked on very sunny days when the suns directly hitting it. Well worth the money I only paid like $300 from eBay.

- - - Updated - - -

Rear speakers? Mine was literally all plug and play down to the new gps module.

Mine has issues powering the rear amp i believe, so no sounds from my rears or sub right now. A common problem if you search but I still havent found a 100% solution.

I hooked up a hi/lo convertor, still nothing. I have to double check install tomorrow. If anyone has a diy fix for this that would be great. Thanks to docurley for the help thus far!

Okedokey
09-10-2017, 11:58 PM
Mine has issues powering the rear amp i believe, so no sounds from my rears or sub right now. A common problem if you search but I still havent found a 100% solution.

I hooked up a hi/lo convertor, still nothing. I have to double check install tomorrow. If anyone has a diy fix for this that would be great. Thanks to docurley for the help thus far!

It sounds like the 'on' signal to the rear OEM amp isnt connected? Just a thought.

Audi-a4sline
09-11-2017, 09:19 AM
I don't know if I have bose or not I am assuming I do not as there is no indication on the doors but I am not the original owner so it's possible the door panels have been swapped.

das2auto
09-11-2017, 01:04 PM
It sounds like the 'on' signal to the rear OEM amp isnt connected? Just a thought.

I don't think I am getting power to the rear amp. I will post pics of my install today at some point and see if anyone can help.

Is there an easy fix/ splice to powering it?

seanf86
09-11-2017, 04:10 PM
I don't think I am getting power to the rear amp. I will post pics of my install today at some point and see if anyone can help.

Is there an easy fix/ splice to powering it?

on the xtrons unit there is an antenna lead with bullet connectors that connect 2 of the harness with the radio, all of them have to be connected together or the rear amp won't turn on. I have to pull mine out in the next day or 2 so I can run the usb cable to my glove box, I'll try and grab some pics.

das2auto
09-11-2017, 07:52 PM
on the xtrons unit there is an antenna lead with bullet connectors that connect 2 of the harness with the radio, all of them have to be connected together or the rear amp won't turn on. I have to pull mine out in the next day or 2 so I can run the usb cable to my glove box, I'll try and grab some pics.

that would be awesome

CedGex
09-14-2017, 10:59 AM
Is that the one we are looking at?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2DIN-7-Octa-Core-Android-6-0-Car-DVD-Player-Radio-Stereo-GPS-for-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-/332182073190?hash=item4d57982f66:g:2UsAAOSw~CFY70V m&vxp=mtr

Did you guys have to pay any custom fees?
"International Shipping - items may be subject to customs processing depending on the item's declared value.
Sellers set the item's declared value and must comply with customs declaration laws.
As the buyer, you should be aware of possible:
- delays from customs inspection.
- import duties and taxes which buyers must pay.
- brokerage fees payable at the point of delivery.
Your country's customs office can offer more details, or visit eBay's page on international trade."

If so, how much would that be? I am also interested in that Xtron unit, it looks nice.

wding2000
09-14-2017, 11:49 AM
In theory, maybe. In practice, can only say it did not happen to me. Shipping is very fast (less than a week).

CedGex
09-14-2017, 01:50 PM
Can you guys share links where you bought the tools to remove the radio? I have seen across the forum that some of us bought these tools and it didn't work. Thanks

Hightekflytech
09-16-2017, 05:37 PM
Avic 4100
I really like this radiohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/aba5949e8ffa0c9e58d87188ac11d812.jpg

Rootboy
09-16-2017, 06:28 PM
Avic 4100
I really like this radiohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/aba5949e8ffa0c9e58d87188ac11d812.jpg

... and what radio is that?


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Rootboy
09-16-2017, 06:30 PM
... and what radio is that?


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Sorry... Avic? Not familiar.


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Hightekflytech
09-17-2017, 05:15 PM
Yeah its from Pioneer
Doesn't look quite OEM but I was looking for Apple car play and it does everything I need it to do with good quality

Ray1031
09-17-2017, 05:31 PM
Yeah its from Pioneer
Doesn't look quite OEM but I was looking for Apple car play and it does everything I need it to do with good quality

What's the model number? Did you retain steering wheel controls, Bluetooth?


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Hightekflytech
09-18-2017, 08:15 AM
Avic 4100 nex. I bought the steering wheel adapter by pac and yes it does have Bluetooth. Siri also works with this unit and allows me to hear and send texts through the unit itself

CedGex
09-21-2017, 06:24 PM
Is that the one we are looking at?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2DIN-7-Octa-Core-Android-6-0-Car-DVD-Player-Radio-Stereo-GPS-for-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-/332182073190?hash=item4d57982f66:g:2UsAAOSw~CFY70V m&vxp=mtr

Did you guys have to pay any custom fees?
"International Shipping - items may be subject to customs processing depending on the item's declared value.
Sellers set the item's declared value and must comply with customs declaration laws.
As the buyer, you should be aware of possible:
- delays from customs inspection.
- import duties and taxes which buyers must pay.
- brokerage fees payable at the point of delivery.
Your country's customs office can offer more details, or visit eBay's page on international trade."

If so, how much would that be? I am also interested in that Xtron unit, it looks nice.

The steering control, do they work with this unit, especially those 2?
https://s27.postimg.org/gmttzjg77/la_foto_1.jpg

I have them in my car but are useless...

das2auto
09-23-2017, 01:18 AM
Bump on finding rear speaker/ sub fix for the Xtrons unit... Help powering rear amp.

Thanks!

kp^
09-23-2017, 06:57 PM
Looking to replace the RSN-E - Bose system with 6-disc cd changer relatively soon.

Leaning towards: Kenwood Excelon DNX694S or similar. Any other suggestions?

Checking crutchfield.com, I also want to walk into a local car audio store and play with the various units.

wding2000
09-24-2017, 07:39 PM
The steering control, do they work with this unit, especially those 2?
https://s27.postimg.org/gmttzjg77/la_foto_1.jpg

I have them in my car but are useless...

They work for me. Mode: will switch between radio, music, phone, cam, reverse cam (cannot remember exact order). Speaker phone: will switch to phone screen, and press again, will call last called number - will not do others, like voice calling.

rhfosu
09-24-2017, 07:42 PM
Is that the one we are looking at?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2DIN-7-Octa-Core-Android-6-0-Car-DVD-Player-Radio-Stereo-GPS-for-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-/332182073190?hash=item4d57982f66:g:2UsAAOSw~CFY70V m&vxp=mtr

Did you guys have to pay any custom fees?
"International Shipping - items may be subject to customs processing depending on the item's declared value.
Sellers set the item's declared value and must comply with customs declaration laws.
As the buyer, you should be aware of possible:
- delays from customs inspection.
- import duties and taxes which buyers must pay.
- brokerage fees payable at the point of delivery.
Your country's customs office can offer more details, or visit eBay's page on international trade."

If so, how much would that be? I am also interested in that Xtron unit, it looks nice.


My favorite part of that xtron ad:

1024*600 High Resolution
True 4K Video Enjoyment

rhfosu
09-24-2017, 08:10 PM
Dumb question: Does anyone know of an aftermarket unit that is compatible with factory siriusxm satellite radio?

FlyNikolai
10-09-2017, 11:52 PM
Best stereo ever created in life period. Movies, Live Cable Channels, YouTube, All Android Apps, Google Maps, Web Browsing Built-in GPS, anything you can think of...

P.S. I have a B5 just ran across the thread & thought I'll share, sorry for highjacking lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/1e4b7acb13334ee244049b32f6b356c9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/6d12f9361c4ff1a8602f885ce1e745e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/c1595d070424245564c98758624bb359.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/a5a88fc3eac57f645a2ffff767449b82.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/21bd45892880c181c9841c50417ac5a6.jpg

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Okedokey
10-10-2017, 12:46 AM
Best stereo ever created in life period. Movies, Live Cable Channels, YouTube, All Android Apps, Google Maps, Web Browsing Built-in GPS, anything you can think of...

P.S. I have a B5 just ran across the thread & thought I'll share, sorry for highjacking lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/1e4b7acb13334ee244049b32f6b356c9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/6d12f9361c4ff1a8602f885ce1e745e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/c1595d070424245564c98758624bb359.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/a5a88fc3eac57f645a2ffff767449b82.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/21bd45892880c181c9841c50417ac5a6.jpg

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What is it?

Sharkiee
10-10-2017, 01:21 AM
Is that unit smooth? Does it come with canbus?


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FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 01:31 AM
What is it?Joying 10.1 Android 6.0 stereo, it is truly amazing. It's so amazing I don't even know what else to do with it anymore lol. I believe there is a double din version for you guys B7 if needed

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FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 01:32 AM
Is that unit smooth? Does it come with canbus?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSuper smooth bro, Intel processor 2GB of ram. Let me see if I can be find a video I took to post.

I believe the double din version comes with canbus

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FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 01:38 AM
Oh and you can put the Audi Logo when it starts up lol, any car logo for that matter. Too official lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/208b183bc79f39121461ce8d4e7997b4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/b22ca538a1c373c096f6bd03c9e6e927.jpg

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FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 01:43 AM
Those are some videos I posted on Instagram & SnapChat. I'm a Computer Technician so I have a bunch of exclusive applications for movies & stuff like that

But you get my drift lol, stereo is too awesome

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Sharkiee
10-10-2017, 01:56 AM
Do you have a link please?


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Okedokey
10-10-2017, 02:09 AM
So it’s a joying tablet ?

FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 02:15 AM
So it’s a joying tablet ?Basically, but it's a stereo. It has FM radio, GPS and all. Built in WiFi, Bluetooth everything

Here's some actual video footage I just made lol. I don't even want to leave my car anymore, I literally stream movies on it

https://youtu.be/vYVvtZxvEH4

https://youtu.be/EPEgSaA3qJU

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i3oricua
10-10-2017, 04:11 AM
Can we get some daytime pics of it not right up on top of it. Basically looks like you took a crappy android tablet and pasted it to the dash. I could be wrong but it doesn’t look appealing. Only looks and sounds like you’re trying to market something in a cross forum.


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FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 06:14 AM
Can we get some daytime pics of it not right up on top of it. Basically looks like you took a crappy android tablet and pasted it to the dash. I could be wrong but it doesn’t look appealing. Only looks and sounds like you’re trying to market something in a cross forum.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt's an actual stereo bro, it's just so flush with my dash that it looks "pasted" on. Like I mentioned I'm a Computer Technician, and I understand most people are stuck in what they believe to be an actual "stereo" from generations...

Meaning knobs & buttons etc. So idk, I don't promote anything unless it's my personal business lol. I just know when something is amazing, because I'm not easily impressed & I have high standards.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/d3722794af4d8433081e26e7c269402e.jpg

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The screen comes off & on as you can see...and you can customize the fit how ever you want. High, low, make it pop out or not...

The screen clicks into those holes there.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/70bd5a22251bccafdb0a20b89ca2dfb3.jpg

naiku
10-10-2017, 06:24 AM
It's an actual stereo bro, it's just so flush with my dash that it looks "pasted" on. Like I mentioned I'm a Computer Technician, and I understand most people are stuck in what they believe to be an actual "stereo" from generations...

But, physically that is not flush with your dash like a typical double din head unit though right? As in the rear of the unit is where a stereo would be, but the screen itself sits out from the dash.

FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 06:32 AM
But, physically that is not flush with your dash like a typical double din head unit though right? As in the rear of the unit is where a stereo would be, but the screen itself sits out from the dash.That is correct it's not physically flush like a typical double din, but that will be the case with any stereo--with any screen size at least for my B5 lol. Because it's single din...

And the 10.1 inch I believe wouldn't be physically flush with any cars dash lol. But it does fit in very well with my dash, it doesn't look entirely out of place is what I meant.

The screen just pops out, but even from the sides or any angle, all you see is the screen...

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FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 06:40 AM
You would definitely have to go with like a 7 inch double din version, if you wanted it physically flush. They have 7 & 8 inch versions. I'm just a go big or go home kind of guy lol

I love big screens. To each his own...

I like having my freedom of doing what I please on my electronics, we all know stock stereos & their software are terrible lol.

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naiku
10-10-2017, 06:44 AM
That is correct it's not physically flush like a typical double din, but that will be the case with any stereo--with any screen size at least for my B5 lol. Because it's single din...

And the 10.1 inch I believe wouldn't be physically flush with any cars dash lol. But it does fit in very well with my dash, it doesn't look entirely out of place is what I meant.

The screen just pops out, but even from the sides or any angle, all you see is the screen...

That's what I figured, I know in the B5 you can modify the dash to fit a typical double din, but I think it involves relocating buttons or something along those lines. I think a Tesla comes with a 10" or so screen, but it's portrait oriented and clearly the dash was built with that in mind. You are right that you are not going to flush mount a 10.1" tablet in 99% of cars on the road. I can see the advantages in having the bigger screen, but for me personally I prefer it to sit flush in the dash, hence why I have a Nexus 7.

FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 06:59 AM
That's what I figured, I know in the B5 you can modify the dash to fit a typical double din, but I think it involves relocating buttons or something along those lines. I think a Tesla comes with a 10" or so screen, but it's portrait oriented and clearly the dash was built with that in mind. You are right that you are not going to flush mount a 10.1" tablet in 99% of cars on the road. I can see the advantages in having the bigger screen, but for me personally I prefer it to sit flush in the dash, hence why I have a Nexus 7.Yea exactly, well said there. I know some people prefer the physical flush look & that's totally awesome. I had a 7inch regular stereo before, and I thought it was bomb--but then I got a 10 inch afterwards & couldn't go back lol.

Then I got this about a month ago & was in complete awe lol, but yea of course we all have our personal preferences that's how it's supposed to be. I'll take some better pictures later today further away from it, to show the actual look & dimensions.

But nonetheless, I just wanted to show the features of it more than anything lol. It's completely awesome, basically an Android tablet in stereo form. It has car settings, stereo control mapping etc, honestly just too much to post.

I don't believe there's any going back after you experience it lol.

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FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 12:57 PM
Further away pictures.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/5d93727f5effe43514f778d3c351a792.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/96a4651478e6bdfd38b902f5414be66d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/8b01e45eb143b5e43869fef02f57907b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/2ea61cca876f0c925c3ac697d0244d4c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/8cb6c91f95f83cc14d40dd01f16d0197.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171010/4fb511942182cfa08c7aabcc5276ca80.jpg

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i3oricua
10-10-2017, 02:04 PM
Thanks for the better pics man. You said it earlier, it’s subjective. Not what I prefer but there is definitely a market for it. As much as I like the Tesla’s exterior I can’t stand the gigantic tablet for a center console.


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FlyNikolai
10-10-2017, 04:44 PM
Thanks for the better pics man. You said it earlier, it’s subjective. Not what I prefer but there is definitely a market for it. As much as I like the Tesla’s exterior I can’t stand the gigantic tablet for a center console.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou're welcome & Lol of course, bigger isn't always better for everyone. So I completely understand your opinion, I wasn't so much implying about the screen size. Rather I was trying to focus more on the features & freedom the stereo with Android 6.0 gives you in your car

It's night & day.

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Christian@enfig
10-13-2017, 09:39 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/aba5949e8ffa0c9e58d87188ac11d812.jpg

... and what radio is that?


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Thats a Pioneer AVH-4100NEX AVH-4200NEX or AVH-4201NEX (without navigation built in)
Or a Pioneer AVH-8100NEX AVH-8200NEX or AVH-8201NEX (with navigation built in)

Both can get navigation off your phone using Apple Carplay or Android Auto.

Using our RMK8-A4B67 radio mounting kit.
http://enfigcarstereo.com/ENFIG_RMK8_A4B67.html

CedGex
10-30-2017, 04:11 PM
Hey FlyNikolai, did you crack your passenger leather seat? on some pics, it looks sewed up and on another, it looks like cracked open. What happen?

oVeRdOsE
01-31-2018, 05:48 AM
Is that the one we are looking at?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2DIN-7-Octa-Core-Android-6-0-Car-DVD-Player-Radio-Stereo-GPS-for-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-/332182073190?hash=item4d57982f66:g:2UsAAOSw~CFY70V m&vxp=mtr

Did you guys have to pay any custom fees?
"International Shipping - items may be subject to customs processing depending on the item's declared value.
Sellers set the item's declared value and must comply with customs declaration laws.
As the buyer, you should be aware of possible:
- delays from customs inspection.
- import duties and taxes which buyers must pay.
- brokerage fees payable at the point of delivery.
Your country's customs office can offer more details, or visit eBay's page on international trade."

If so, how much would that be? I am also interested in that Xtron unit, it looks nice.

about the same question, I just saw this . But it doesn't look like the other Xtrons on this post . hard to tell if it will act just like previous 2gb gen.

New gen, with 4gb ram, this will keep alive Waze longer ! lol

Hard to tell if it worth the money.

So far, looks like we won't need the antenna adaptor.
No need of the hi/lo adaptor for the rear bose speakers.
Can bus included.


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/am8AAOSwNDJaaZtI/s-l1600.jpg


https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Android-8-0-4GB-RAM-For-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-Car-Stereo-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-1024-600/112774930092?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Matt Devo
01-31-2018, 07:13 PM
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/am8AAOSwNDJaaZtI/s-l1600.jpg


I wish they'd just make a version without the physical buttons, as they're unnecessary with a touchscreen/proper touchscreen OS, and the buttons on these units (this and other similar RNS-E or Symphony II+ layout Android units) are either cheap feeling/sounding, poorly laid out/poorly utilized, or both. If only I had the connections, I'd go to one of these ODM's and have them make a proper modern HU for our cars.

oVeRdOsE
02-01-2018, 07:35 AM
I wish they'd just make a version without the physical buttons, as they're unnecessary with a touchscreen/proper touchscreen OS, and the buttons on these units (this and other similar RNS-E or Symphony II+ layout Android units) are either cheap feeling/sounding, poorly laid out/poorly utilized, or both. If only I had the connections, I'd go to one of these ODM's and have them make a proper modern HU for our cars.

yeah, at this price I don't expect anything crazy. But I read the 71 pages, and some people got good result with similar devices, some said better audio quality than the symphony ii+.

But some got issues. Overall apreciation is good.

I like the OEM look, this is why I'd like one.

A good setup would be :

AVIC-8201NEX : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-AVIC-8200NEX-2-DIN-DVD-CD-Player-GPS-Bluetooth-HD-Radio-ND-BC8-Camera/152708568398?hash=item238e23d54e:g:4DwAAOSwoudW9d4 Z&vxp=mtr


dash kit : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Car-Radio-Stereo-Single-Din-Install-Dash-Kit-Pocket-for-2002-2008-Audi-A4-S4/332514242318?hash=item4d6b64af0e:g:VIIAAOSwYNxaU9U 7&vxp=mtr

can bus : https://pac-audio.com/catalog/radio-replacement/rp4-ad11

usb : https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lot-of-2-PAC-USB-DMA-Dash-Mount-Cable-Adapter-for-USB-Accessories-6/192333643310?hash=item2cc7fa7e2e:g:O2UAAOSwIX1Z4aa P

Matt Devo
02-01-2018, 10:34 PM
yeah, at this price I don't expect anything crazy. But I read the 71 pages, and some people got good result with similar devices, some said better audio quality than the symphony ii+.

But some got issues. Overall apreciation is good.

I like the OEM look, this is why I'd like one.


well if/when you pick one up, please report back :)

oVeRdOsE
02-02-2018, 04:37 AM
well if/when you pick one up, please report back :)

page 70, member das2auto got a xtrons unit, but not the same version. The back casing doesn't look the same at all.

although he seems pleased with his new unit, I'm septical about the new 4gb version.

It's cheap if its working, and its very exepensive if its not working. 329usd makes it to 410$ cad, + chance to get cut at customs, add a 15% + customs fees = 500$ cad...

docurley
02-02-2018, 06:11 AM
I have a older version of this and one of the main issues was noise feedback but this was common on most units of any brand.

Next was mic being crap and even with an external fitted the quality was not great.

The other is the Bose problem, some units were fine some not but there is a solution.

Radio strength again a problem as the unit did not power up the Audi amp and also the sound from the radio could be poor. I use internet radio which gets round this and most apps have eq's built in to fix that.

In all it's better than stock and I love being able to run near on any app I like and Waze, poweramp and a few others make this a brilliant system and the sound on poweramp is amazing.



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oVeRdOsE
02-02-2018, 07:44 AM
I have a older version of this and one of the main issues was noise feedback but this was common on most units of any brand.

Next was mic being crap and even with an external fitted the quality was not great.

The other is the Bose problem, some units were fine some not but there is a solution.

Radio strength again a problem as the unit did not power up the Audi amp and also the sound from the radio could be poor. I use internet radio which gets round this and most apps have eq's built in to fix that.

In all it's better than stock and I love being able to run near on any app I like and Waze, poweramp and a few others make this a brilliant system and the sound on poweramp is amazing.



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thanks for the feed back.

poweramp is amazing.
I use it with Viper4droid FX, with a convolver file. On my cell im using sony convolver, and the sound is crazy good ( oneplus5 with Audiotechnica athm50).

for the ground loop noise, there's a ton of different issue, not only on these units, but many many other aftermarket unit, even alpiine/pioneer, since years.

Most common cause :

- improper ground. And I'm not only talking about the casing ground. It could be the chip it self. so in some case, you'll need to open the hu and find the chip to ground.
- rca line next to power line. (interference). Solution can be to get rca s away from power source, buy expensivle insulated rca or use a filter.
- improper car ground. big 3 can do the trick. even with no audio issue, a big 3 can be benefical to the car itself. (grounding kit)

docurley
02-02-2018, 09:19 AM
thanks for the feed back.

poweramp is amazing.
I use it with Viper4droid FX, with a convolver file. On my cell im using sony convolver, and the sound is crazy good ( oneplus5 with Audiotechnica athm50).

for the ground loop noise, there's a ton of different issue, not only on these units, but many many other aftermarket unit, even alpiine/pioneer, since years.

Most common cause :

- improper ground. And I'm not only talking about the casing ground. It could be the chip it self. so in some case, you'll need to open the hu and find the chip to ground.
- rca line next to power line. (interference). Solution can be to get rca s away from power source, buy expensivle insulated rca or use a filter.
- improper car ground. big 3 can do the trick. even with no audio issue, a big 3 can be benefical to the car itself. (grounding kit)
From my understanding it's something to do with the way Audi builds the car and the power lines and so Audi put the filters in to the radio to overcome the issue. The way I have got round it is as following.

- hi to low converter on the speaker output wires with built in balance control to allow working with Bose.
- RCA filter which are smaller and easier to tuck away.
- separate EQ taking just one output from HU and controlling front and rear from that which also solved the issue and allowed for a better sound from the radio.

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oVeRdOsE
02-02-2018, 11:59 AM
all right.

I'm going for the 4gb xtrons. Hope they did some improvement !

will report in few weeks.

oVeRdOsE
02-12-2018, 09:26 AM
here my review on the latest android head unit generation .

Model : Xtrons - ndroid 8.0 4GB RAM For Audi A4 S4 RS4 Car Stereo DVD GPS Radio Player 1024*600

Link : https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Android-8-0-4GB-RAM-For-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-Car-Stereo-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-1024-600/112774930092?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Pros :

- easy install
- no additional plug or wire required (b7 and b6 harness included). Antenna fits right in.
- Bose rear speaker are working. hi-lo converter is included with the harness
- Reverse screen work without additionnal connections
- boot time is almost intant (sleep)
- Ground loop noise is very very minimal. Barely noticable with the head ligh on. (planning to add a ground here to see if it can fix it)
- 4gb ram, 8 cores (benchmark antunu around 40 000, yeah its low, but acceptable for a head unit. My oneplus 5 benched at 182 000...)
- sound is better after some adjustment (Viper4droid under root, would be crazy)
- OK price for what you get.
- tons of support on XDA
- Xtrons launcher is very nice, optimized to operate the headunit with low concentration
- supports any format, its android
- >> steering wheel button are working as OEM, but the FM presets. FM presets are now working with the left trigger. (with symphony ii+ , you can't change fm presets, it will just scan fm bands)


Cons

Not much very irritating cons, but here some minor :

- Can't put the head unit ON whitout keys in the ingnition ACC. (this is the worst cons so far, because I think it was a wonderful feature with symphony 2, music for 1hr no keys, less chance to get my car stolen)
- wifi is very weak, but works
- Minimum sound is kind of high (root can fix that)
- FM radio information is weird
- plastic is shinier than oem plastics. not a big deal imho, hardly noticable.


Note :

- Plan to get some head unit removal tool ( not included with the unit)
- Plan to get a reverse camera, since the HU is compatible out of the box.
- Plan to remove your CD in the old unit before installation...................


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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Du8AAOSwXOhaaZt6/s-l1600.jpg

StatusQuo
02-12-2018, 10:11 AM
here my review on the latest android head unit generation .

Model : Xtrons - ndroid 8.0 4GB RAM For Audi A4 S4 RS4 Car Stereo DVD GPS Radio Player 1024*600

Link : https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Android-8-0-4GB-RAM-For-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-Car-Stereo-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-1024-600/112774930092?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Pros :

- easy install
- no additional plug or wire required (b7 and b6 harness included). Antenna fits right in.
- Bose rear speaker are working. hi-lo converter is included with the harness
- Reverse screen work without additionnal connections
- boot time is almost intant (sleep)
- Ground loop noise is very very minimal. Barely noticable with the head ligh on. (planning to add a ground here to see if it can fix it)
- 4gb ram, 8 cores (benchmark antunu around 40 000, yeah its low, but acceptable for a head unit. My oneplus 5 benched at 182 000...)
- sound is better after some adjustment (Viper4droid under root, would be crazy)
- OK price for what you get.
- tons of support on XDA
- Xtrons launcher is very nice, optimized to operate the headunit with low concentration
- supports any format, its android
- >> steering wheel button are working as OEM, but the FM presets. FM presets are now working with the left trigger. (with symphony ii+ , you can't change fm presets, it will just scan fm bands)


Cons

Not much very irritating cons, but here some minor :

- Can't put the head unit ON whitout keys in the ingnition ACC. (this is the worst cons so far, because I think it was a wonderful feature with symphony 2, music for 1hr no keys, less chance to get my car stolen)
- wifi is very weak, but works
- Minimum sound is kind of high (root can fix that)
- FM radio information is weird
- plastic is shinier than oem plastics. not a big deal imho, hardly noticable.


Note :

- Plan to get some head unit removal tool ( not included with the unit)
- Plan to get a reverse camera, since the HU is compatible out of the box.
- Plan to remove your CD in the old unit before installation...................


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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Du8AAOSwXOhaaZt6/s-l1600.jpg
I have the same radio but mine is the older 6.0.1 model with the 2gb ram. I have a crap done of noise with headlights on. How are you planning to add ground points? I'm interested.

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onedumslack
02-12-2018, 10:18 AM
How long does it stay in sleep mode after power off before it requires a full bootup?

oVeRdOsE
02-12-2018, 10:54 AM
I have the same radio but mine is the older 6.0.1 model with the 2gb ram. I have a crap done of noise with headlights on. How are you planning to add ground points? I'm interested.

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Ive installed about 100 headunit, customers/friends/family.

most of the time it was 12v power interference with the RCA signal and bad grounding.

1- Getting the RCA away from the power lines, is the first step.
2-then it could be a great idea to use high quality insulated RCA .
3- Having the headunit casing grounded on a metal part (in addition of the original ground), could help a lot.
4 - Big 3 ground/ grounding kit is also a good idea.
5 - Add a ground loop insulator on RCA ( could affect sound quality)

6 - If nothing is working, the board in the android unit is missing a ground. You have to test different ground point to find it out. You can find some info from other brand on the web.

So, at the end , in 90% of the time, this is a ground problem, where we call it ground loop sound.

My unit have almost nothing ! I can tell there's some, but way less than what I already saw on other cars.

I'll do a casing ground and a big 3 soon. There's probably a metal part laying around, I'll use a tap screw.


How long does it stay in sleep mode after power off before it requires a full bootup?

So far, it stays in sleep mode forever ( or until the car battery dies)

StatusQuo
02-12-2018, 10:58 AM
Ive installed about 100 headunit, customers/friends/family.

most of the time it was 12v power interference with the RCA signal and bad grounding.

1- Getting the RCA away from the power lines, is the first step.
2-then it could be a great idea to use high quality insulated RCA .
3- Having the headunit casing grounded on a metal part (in addition of the original ground), could help a lot.
4 - Big 3 ground/ grounding kit is also a good idea.
5 - Add a ground loop insulator on RCA ( could affect sound quality)

6 - If nothing is working, the board in the android unit is missing a ground. You have to test different ground point to find it out. You can find some info from other brand on the web.

So, at the end , in 90% of the time, this is a ground problem, where we call it ground loop sound.

My unit have almost nothing ! I can tell there's some, but way less than what I already saw on other cars.

I'll do a casing ground and a big 3 soon. There's probably a metal part laying around, I'll use a tap screw.



So far, it stays in sleep mode forever ( or until the car battery dies)
Thanks man. Im going to one of these days see of I can add another ground point on the radio chassis. See of that helps.

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oVeRdOsE
02-12-2018, 11:07 AM
Thanks man. Im going to one of these days see of I can add another ground point on the radio chassis. See of that helps.

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keep in mind that is a cheap unit, imho its overall better than the symphony ii+. still, it will do more than you need.

Since it's a universal chip, you can re-wire the unit as you wish, for let say a complete aftermarket system.

If you want a real unit, a Pioneer-AVIC-8200NEX is a better choice.

But will cost you twice the price and 3x the time.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-AVIC-8200NEX-2-DIN-DVD-CD-Player-GPS-Bluetooth-HD-Radio-ND-BC8-Camera/152708568398?hash=item238e23d54e:g:4DwAAOSwoudW9d4 Z&vxp=mtr





I'm also running a Alpine type R 10'' sealed box, with a auto-On MTX 300w rms brideged amp @40Hz, hot wired on the factory subwoofer output.

The bass is ''harsh'' and precise. well, it kits hard .

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA==/z/SfkAAOSwFJBZS1RT/$_58.JPG

StatusQuo
02-12-2018, 11:10 AM
keep in mind that is a cheap unit, imho its overall better than the symphony ii+. still, it will do more than you need.

Since it's a universal chip, you can re-wire the unit as you wish, for let say a complete aftermarket system.

If you want a real unit, a Pioneer-AVIC-8200NEX is a better choice.

But will cost you twice the price and 3x the time.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-AVIC-8200NEX-2-DIN-DVD-CD-Player-GPS-Bluetooth-HD-Radio-ND-BC8-Camera/152708568398?hash=item238e23d54e:g:4DwAAOSwoudW9d4 Z&vxp=mtr
Yeah I got this radio mainly for the fact I can set up torque gauges to monitor stuff. For that purpose, it works well.


I'm trying to get it to work with my Valentine One radar via Bluetooth. I'm having some trouble with it atm lol.

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Fernmelder
02-14-2018, 12:31 PM
here my review on the latest android head unit generation .

Model : Xtrons - ndroid 8.0 4GB RAM For Audi A4 S4 RS4 Car Stereo DVD GPS Radio Player 1024*600

Link : https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Android-8-0-4GB-RAM-For-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-Car-Stereo-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-1024-600/112774930092?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Pros :

- easy install
- no additional plug or wire required (b7 and b6 harness included). Antenna fits right in.
- Bose rear speaker are working. hi-lo converter is included with the harness
- Reverse screen work without additionnal connections
- boot time is almost intant (sleep)
- Ground loop noise is very very minimal. Barely noticable with the head ligh on. (planning to add a ground here to see if it can fix it)
- 4gb ram, 8 cores (benchmark antunu around 40 000, yeah its low, but acceptable for a head unit. My oneplus 5 benched at 182 000...)
- sound is better after some adjustment (Viper4droid under root, would be crazy)
- OK price for what you get.
- tons of support on XDA
- Xtrons launcher is very nice, optimized to operate the headunit with low concentration
- supports any format, its android
- >> steering wheel button are working as OEM, but the FM presets. FM presets are now working with the left trigger. (with symphony ii+ , you can't change fm presets, it will just scan fm bands)


Cons

Not much very irritating cons, but here some minor :

- Can't put the head unit ON whitout keys in the ingnition ACC. (this is the worst cons so far, because I think it was a wonderful feature with symphony 2, music for 1hr no keys, less chance to get my car stolen)
- wifi is very weak, but works
- Minimum sound is kind of high (root can fix that)
- FM radio information is weird
- plastic is shinier than oem plastics. not a big deal imho, hardly noticable.


Note :

- Plan to get some head unit removal tool ( not included with the unit)
- Plan to get a reverse camera, since the HU is compatible out of the box.
- Plan to remove your CD in the old unit before installation...................


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4748/40193579042_369fde03a8_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4770/26353985298_8b80ffac9f_b.jpg

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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Du8AAOSwXOhaaZt6/s-l1600.jpgJust one question, is the lower button illuminated?

onedumslack
02-14-2018, 05:26 PM
keep in mind that is a cheap unit, imho its overall better than the symphony ii+. still, it will do more than you need.

Since it's a universal chip, you can re-wire the unit as you wish, for let say a complete aftermarket system.

If you want a real unit, a Pioneer-AVIC-8200NEX is a better choice.

But will cost you twice the price and 3x the time.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-AVIC-8200NEX-2-DIN-DVD-CD-Player-GPS-Bluetooth-HD-Radio-ND-BC8-Camera/152708568398?hash=item238e23d54e:g:4DwAAOSwoudW9d4 Z&vxp=mtr





I'm also running a Alpine type R 10'' sealed box, with a auto-On MTX 300w rms brideged amp @40Hz, hot wired on the factory subwoofer output.

The bass is ''harsh'' and precise. well, it kits hard .

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA==/z/SfkAAOSwFJBZS1RT/$_58.JPG

Have you tested out Bluetooth streaming? Does audio ever cutout while playing mp3's? Did you use the playstore and are able to download apps? Let us know if you're able eliminate your ground noise please.

oVeRdOsE
02-15-2018, 05:16 AM
Just one question, is the lower button illuminated?

No.

here a darker shoot.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4696/40146515252_568bd810b8_h.jpg


Have you tested out Bluetooth streaming? Does audio ever cutout while playing mp3's? Did you use the playstore and are able to download apps? Let us know if you're able eliminate your ground noise please.


yes, a2dp. The stock app is bad, I mean you have the play/pause and previous/next button, that's it.
The a2dp app, will start PowerAmp on my phone, which has audio settings for my headphones, so the sound is not the best in the car.
At the end, I do not use bluetooth straming, but it works flawless, no cut or anything.
The phone might do the difference, I have a oneplus 5 with a high quality bluetooth 5.0 chip.

I wish I can use Poweramp on the headunit to stream from my cellphone, I did not find the trick yet.


Playstore works just like other android devices. you can what ever you want.

I will figure out the ground loop noise one day, like I said it's soooo minimal, it's not really a matter right now.
The engine at idle is enough to cover it... very minimal.

oVeRdOsE
03-01-2018, 09:18 AM
OEM radio got a ''no key radio ON'' feature. (about 1hr)

I'm looking to get this feature back, in that exact sequence :

Starting from radio ON and Engine ON :

1- Stop engine, remove keys
2- headunit shut-down immediatly
3- Press power button (in that case a external timer button): headunit ON for 1hr.



possible? arduino project?

what I've found so far (maybe the amazon one might do the trick?) :

https://www.itead.cc/wiki/12V_DELAY_TIMER_SWITCH_30_SECONDS_SUPPLY_MODULE

http://www.acdcind.com/mzl-10-delay-timer.html

https://powerwerx.com/automatic-dc-timer-power-switch

https://www.amazon.com/Newer-Version-Multifunction-Relay-Module/dp/B00VR1F3LC/

B7S3wannabi
03-05-2018, 06:38 PM
Would the ground loop noise still be present if using preouts only to an external amp to power aftermarket speakers?


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Christian@enfig
03-06-2018, 05:59 AM
Would the ground loop noise still be present if using preouts only to an external amp to power aftermarket speakers?


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Engine whine is a tricky thing. It can come up at any time.

B7S3wannabi
03-06-2018, 06:41 AM
Planning to run JL amps, Focal ES 165 K2 components, and an Image dynamic sub. Hopefully I won't have any feedback.


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Christian@enfig
03-06-2018, 07:06 AM
That helps ALOT. But a bad RCA ground or a broken solder joint in a component can cause it too. But thats rare. Good luck with the install.

B7S3wannabi
03-06-2018, 11:59 AM
Thank you sir!


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B7S3wannabi
03-10-2018, 03:57 PM
Weird. Just installed this same unit and no feedback at all! Good news for me I guess


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AudiKilla
03-11-2018, 01:04 AM
all right.

I'm going for the 4gb xtrons. Hope they did some improvement !

will report in few weeks.

Hey,

How's the sound quality if you play music through bluetooth? Is it similar to CD quality on symphony?

B7S3wannabi
03-11-2018, 06:23 AM
Hey,

How's the sound quality if you play music through bluetooth? Is it similar to CD quality on symphony?

I had an RNS-E until yesterday when I installed this. I did not have a bose system. I have to say, it could be just me liking the new setup, but I think it sounds much better and I haven't even began to install the new speakers or sub. I ran outside to check the Bluetooth after reading this and it works great if not better than CD quality.


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AudiKilla
03-11-2018, 08:51 AM
I had an RNS-E until yesterday when I installed this. I did not have a bose system. I have to say, it could be just me liking the new setup, but I think it sounds much better and I haven't even began to install the new speakers or sub. I ran outside to check the Bluetooth after reading this and it works great if not better than CD quality.


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Thank you, sounds good I may order one soon.

oVeRdOsE
03-11-2018, 09:39 AM
Hey,

How's the sound quality if you play music through bluetooth? Is it similar to CD quality on symphony?

overall , sound is better.

I tried music through bluetooth (a2dp), but the app is so shitty, that I've just drop my mp3 in the internal storage and I use poweramp.

brev928
03-11-2018, 05:10 PM
What's the current consensus on reverse cameras? I'd love to have a trunk handle-integrated camera, but I cannot seem to find the correct size for the Avant. The switch itself is 110x30mm, but the switches I've found that size don't seem to have the release microswitch. The other option is to replace the entire light and switch insert, but all that I've seen have an opening for a lock cylinder, and my car doesn't have a lock cylinder currently. Any ideas aside from drilling and mounting one?

Deckster
03-21-2018, 08:35 PM
What's the current consensus on reverse cameras? I'd love to have a trunk handle-integrated camera, but I cannot seem to find the correct size for the Avant. The switch itself is 110x30mm, but the switches I've found that size don't seem to have the release microswitch. The other option is to replace the entire light and switch insert, but all that I've seen have an opening for a lock cylinder, and my car doesn't have a lock cylinder currently. Any ideas aside from drilling and mounting one?

I too am interested in this. I have an Alpine ILX 107 and I’m looking for a rear view camera that has really good quality video. I did have one on my 06 Audi, but I didn’t like the quality so I didn’t switch it over.

Thanks!


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brev928
03-22-2018, 11:18 AM
I too am interested in this. I have an Alpine ILX 107 and I’m looking for a rear view camera that has really good quality video. I did have one on my 06 Audi, but I didn’t like the quality so I didn’t switch it over.

Thanks!


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Just an update, I ended up purchasing a standalone camera since none of the tailgate handles were the correct size, or lost the function of the release handle. I had everything wired up and ready to go, but didn't have the correct input on my Pioneer head unit so I took everything back out. I've figured out the wiring issue, so now it's just a matter of reinstalling everything. I'll update with pics and product info when I wrap everything up.

Fishbone
03-22-2018, 12:03 PM
Just an update, I ended up purchasing a standalone camera since none of the tailgate handles were the correct size, or lost the function of the release handle. I had everything wired up and ready to go, but didn't have the correct input on my Pioneer head unit so I took everything back out. I've figured out the wiring issue, so now it's just a matter of reinstalling everything. I'll update with pics and product info when I wrap everything up.

That sucks about handle - where did you buy it from? I was hoping to install the handle-cam for a more OEM look. Can you post pics o how your camera looks installed?

brev928
03-23-2018, 05:53 AM
That sucks about handle - where did you buy it from? I was hoping to install the handle-cam for a more OEM look. Can you post pics o how your camera looks installed?

Everything came from Amazon or Ebay. I should also note that the handle-mounted cameras did not fit my Avant, I cannot speak for sedans or cabrios. I removed the camera from the handle because I initially thought the camera itself was the issue but I'll post up photos once everything is back together.

Christian@enfig
03-23-2018, 09:04 AM
What's the current consensus on reverse cameras? I'd love to have a trunk handle-integrated camera, but I cannot seem to find the correct size for the Avant. The switch itself is 110x30mm, but the switches I've found that size don't seem to have the release microswitch. The other option is to replace the entire light and switch insert, but all that I've seen have an opening for a lock cylinder, and my car doesn't have a lock cylinder currently. Any ideas aside from drilling and mounting one?

Shoot me an email with your vin number. I did an avant a few months ago and I can verify that the avant had a different handle than the regular A4. I had the correct one in stock but I forget what car it was from.

oVeRdOsE
03-23-2018, 09:12 AM
Everything came from Amazon or Ebay. I should also note that the handle-mounted cameras did not fit my Avant, I cannot speak for sedans or cabrios. I removed the camera from the handle because I initially thought the camera itself was the issue but I'll post up photos once everything is back together.

about the one in the reverse light ?

I have one like that one, not installed yet.

I'll report in few weeks.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8UIAAOSwcgNZNnPf/s-l500.jpg

tigger_78
03-23-2018, 09:21 AM
about the one in the reverse light ?

I have one like that one, not installed yet.

I'll report in few weeks.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8UIAAOSwcgNZNnPf/s-l500.jpgI have the same camera on my Avant. Works great paired with a wireless transmitter & receiver also purchased from eBay. Resolution isn't anywhere near HD but it's good enough. Night time performance is passable. Using it with my Pioneer 4000NEX. Main downside for me is that the embedded LED license plate light isn't nearly as bright as the LED bulb I've got on the right side (and the old school bulb is a totally different light colour).

Here's a photo if it installed, sorry for the poor quality. Essentially invisible from directly behind, although I've since painted the license plate frame white one so it's a bit more visible now.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180323/5b774108e0bd5f3cdbeeadef8a735cd0.jpg

brev928
03-23-2018, 11:50 AM
I have the same camera on my Avant. Works great paired with a wireless transmitter & receiver also purchased from eBay. Resolution isn't anywhere near HD but it's good enough. Night time performance is passable. Using it with my Pioneer 4000NEX. Main downside for me is that the embedded LED license plate light isn't nearly as bright as the LED bulb I've got on the right side (and the old school bulb is a totally different light colour).


This was part of the reason I didn't want a light-mounted camera. I was worried about different color temps between the two sides as well. Any issues with the LED reflecting and washing out the camera signal?

oVeRdOsE : I was strictly referring to the cameras that mount within the release handle and it sounds like Enfig has confirmed they are different between sedan and avant models.

oVeRdOsE
03-23-2018, 11:56 AM
This was part of the reason I didn't want a light-mounted camera. I was worried about different color temps between the two sides as well. Any issues with the LED reflecting and washing out the camera signal?

oVeRdOsE : I was strictly referring to the cameras that mount within the release handle and it sounds like Enfig has confirmed they are different between sedan and avant models.


This is my concern as well. I'll attempt to retrofit the original buld , or do some led testing.

yeah, just like this one :


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wyYAAOSw7vValCDw/s-l1600.jpg

tigger_78
03-23-2018, 12:16 PM
This was part of the reason I didn't want a light-mounted camera. I was worried about different color temps between the two sides as well. Any issues with the LED reflecting and washing out the camera signal?

Haven't noticed any issues with that. My OCD has tolerated the light intensity difference because I want the camera the other LED one is still bright enough to illuminate the plate, plus I can't see it most of the time.

oVeRdOsE : I was strictly referring to the cameras that mount within the release handle and it sounds like Enfig has confirmed they are different between sedan and avant models.

Haven't noticed any issues with the image getting washed out. My OCD has tolerated the L/R intensity difference because I want the camera benefits, the other LED one is still bright enough to illuminate the plate, plus I can't see it most of the time any way.

Look forward to hearing if the camera within the release latch works (and isn't unreasonably expensive).

brev928
03-23-2018, 12:55 PM
This is my concern as well. I'll attempt to retrofit the original buld , or do some led testing.

yeah, just like this one :


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wyYAAOSw7vValCDw/s-l1600.jpg

For clarification, THIS is what I was attempting to replicated. However, after speaking with a couple of the sellers there were two issues.
1. Have a non-functioning release handle (Avant) but have the OEM style release button with built-in camera. This was a no-go due to the release handle not functioning.
2. Use the Q7 style panel shown above. The issue with this piece is the opening for the key lock opening, but my car has no lock cylinder. They offered to provide a plug, but I also didn't want to mess with this.

This left me with option 3 (I'll post photos when it's all finished). I simply drilled a small hole for the aftermarket camera right next to the release pad. Looks OEM but no extra lock cylinder to deal with.

CeldeSuS
03-23-2018, 03:14 PM
I just replaced my RNS-E with the Alpine X802D-U.

https://s7.postimg.org/g7kp9wgjv/20180323_220632.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5xiaanqo7/)

https://s7.postimg.org/k3y15xjjv/20180323_220645.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/45pbfspbr/)

https://s7.postimg.org/lizluo02j/20180323_220655.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/x83limr13/)

It's a good unit, it has Android Auto and Apple Carplay as well as built-in navigation.

Pros:
- Very good sound and tons of options to fine-tune the sound to your liking. The sound is better than it was with the Audi RNS-E navigation;
- Android Auto and Apple Carplay integration as well as built-in navigation;
- You can add front and backup cameras;
- Quick boot, it's just a few seconds slower than the RNS-E boot;
- Good integration with Spotify, Pandora, iHeartRadio etc. through Android Auto;


Cons:
- Expensive and it's not 100% perfect fit, I'll explain below;
- WinCE based head unit meaning that the interface is sluggish, you cannot compare it with the snappiness of a mobile phone;
- The display is just "meh". The colors are a bit washed during the daytime. Touch screen is not that responsive. Even though it has auto-dimming feature, I cannot find a perfect balance of the brightness between daytime and nighttime. It's either too dim during daytime and you'll have a hard time seeing something on the display (especially if it's a sunny day) or it's too bright at night causing too much of distraction. You need to constant fiddle with the brightness settings;
- I drove ~1000km with the new head unit and it rebooted once during a trip;
- The buttons are always on. They don't turn on and off with the headlights;
- Being a large unit, you will have a harder time seeing the A/C leds. You will have to tilt your head quite a bit to see if you're on AUTO or if you're on recirculating;
- No display on cluster FIS/DIS screen. It seems that something changed between Alpine X800D-U and later models and there is no interface available for this unit to allow cluster display output;

Things to keep in mind if you want to install this head unit

I used Alpine KIT-8A4 to do the install. Alpine did a lousy job with their steering wheel remote control interface. Even though the faceplate of the installation kit is good (in my opinion the best after-market look), the wiring harness is not quite plug and play. You will have to use a HI/LOW converter (otherwise the back speakers will be less louder than the front speakers) and the "push to talk" button on the steering wheel won't work.

Fortunately, Connects2 sells a way better interface called CTSAD005.3 which is plug and play, it has a HI/LOW converter built-in and allows you to use steering wheel push to talk button as well. Note that even with this interface the steering wheel push to talk button has a bug, you need to find the perfect timing to keep the button pressed long enough to trigger voice assistant but short enough not to trigger it multiple times. It will perfectly work to change songs, volume up/down, answer and hang-up a phone-call.

Regarding the cluster display (DIS), I guess it might be possible to make it work using a raspberry pi and some adapters. Thea head unit outputs text and navigation arrow on some VW models so in theory, with the right interface, one could create some kind of gateway using a raspberry pi to get the info from the head unit and "translate" it to the Audi DIS.

Despite the cons, all in all I'm quite happy with it because of Android Auto integration and the quality of the sound. I'll try to make some pictures during daytime as well.

Let me know if you have more questions.

B7S3wannabi
03-23-2018, 06:33 PM
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Car-Reverse-Camera-Trunk-Handle-For-Audi-A4-S4-B6-B7-8E-8H-A6L-A6-C6-4F-S6-A8-S8/192432644227

Anyone try running this?
Quality? Fitment?


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B7S3wannabi
03-23-2018, 06:36 PM
58217

These just came in yesterday :)


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i3oricua
03-23-2018, 06:52 PM
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Car-Reverse-Camera-Trunk-Handle-For-Audi-A4-S4-B6-B7-8E-8H-A6L-A6-C6-4F-S6-A8-S8/192432644227

Anyone try running this?
Quality? Fitment?


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I have one installed but haven’t wired it completely yet. Install is very clean and OEM looking. Can’t speak on camera quality because it’s not wired up yet.


58217

These just came in yesterday :)


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Those are nice. Details please.


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B7S3wannabi
03-23-2018, 07:05 PM
I have one installed but haven’t wired it completely yet. Install is very clean and OEM looking. Can’t speak on camera quality because it’s not wired up yet.

Thanks for the info. I ordered one of those a few days ago when my trunk switch went bat shit crazy popping itself open every 15 seconds.
I'm gonna wire up the camera when I pull out the interior for the system upgrade.



Those are nice. Details please.


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Those are the Focal ES165KX2 from their elite series. I'll be running them and a IDQ10 from the new HD900/5 JL amp that should arrive on Monday along with my wiring and sound deadening.
Seriously pumped! [emoji16]




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Flygman
03-25-2018, 04:49 PM
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Car-Reverse-Camera-Trunk-Handle-For-Audi-A4-S4-B6-B7-8E-8H-A6L-A6-C6-4F-S6-A8-S8/192432644227

Anyone try running this?
Quality? Fitment?


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I want one, but my trunk doesn't have that hole for the manual lock [confused] Not sure what to do

Flygman
03-29-2018, 06:43 AM
Just bought this style of stereo, like many others of you did: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A4-RS4-B7-8E-Android-8-0-Car-Stereo-Sat-Nav-DVD-DAB-RADIO-System-CAN-CAM/173178823772?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

However, it's not really working. First time I plugged everything in and turned the key, it started like it's supposed to and I got to the main menu. But everything was mirrored. If I tapped my finger in the top right corner, I clicked on something in the bottom right corner. It was impossible to read and get into the settings. So, I shut it off and unplugged it, checked all the cables, then plugged everything in again and started it up. Now all I get is a white screen. Nothing more. If I let it start and press buttons or on the display, it still plays the sound it does when browsing the menu. I've pressed the little reset button a couple of times, and it restarts but nothing changes. Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

B7S3wannabi
03-29-2018, 08:35 AM
Dude. That sucks. I would say it's defective. I don't even think I read anything about that in the troubleshooting section.
Contact the seller and ask for a replacement.
Take pictures and video of the issues to send to seller.


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oVeRdOsE
03-29-2018, 08:40 AM
seems like you've got a defective unit.

it looks like mine, but the wires/ back headunit/ rom aren't the same.

1- Maybe get everything unpluged but the main harness for the power (remove all RCA arness, antenna, can bus (this can fck the unit))
Power on to see if it will boot.

2- enter in revovery to do a factory reset. If I recall correctly : use a pen to press and hold the reset button. While still holding, press and hold the power button for five seconds. Then release the reset button and continue to hold the power button for five seconds. Then finally release the power button > use the power button to navigate to ''factory reset'' > long press power to select.

3- return it

4 - if 4 is not possible , smash it [:D]

Flygman
03-29-2018, 10:59 AM
Dude. That sucks. I would say it's defective. I don't even think I read anything about that in the troubleshooting section.
Contact the seller and ask for a replacement.
Take pictures and video of the issues to send to seller.


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I think I missed that thread, do you think you could find it for me?

I contacted the seller, he is gonna check with "the technician" and reply to me tomorrow.


seems like you've got a defective unit.

it looks like mine, but the wires/ back headunit/ rom aren't the same.

1- Maybe get everything unpluged but the main harness for the power (remove all RCA arness, antenna, can bus (this can fck the unit))
Power on to see if it will boot.

2- enter in revovery to do a factory reset. If I recall correctly : use a pen to press and hold the reset button. While still holding, press and hold the power button for five seconds. Then release the reset button and continue to hold the power button for five seconds. Then finally release the power button > use the power button to navigate to ''factory reset'' > long press power to select.

3- return it

4 - if 4 is not possible , smash it [:D]

Thanks for the info! Gonna try that tomorrow. I luckily purchased it through Ebay with Paypal, so I should be pretty safe.

Do you mean I can fuck it if I try without the canbus decoder?

B7S3wannabi
03-29-2018, 11:55 AM
There is no thread. I just meant the trouble shooting section in the manual that is provided


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Flygman
03-29-2018, 12:55 PM
Oh, ok. There were no installation instructions at all in mine, gonna check for trouble shooting. Thanks.

Edit: Found this video, it's probably the same issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kYTffKDD_4

I'll open it up and check if they won't send me a new one.

Flygman
04-07-2018, 09:44 AM
Got it working finally. Had to reflash the OS.
https://i.imgur.com/m29iUjq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jZAii31.jpg

Got low audio in the rear tho [headbang]

Willënskraft
04-07-2018, 10:45 AM
Got it working finally. Had to reflash the OS.

Got low audio in the rear tho [headbang]

Is that the 7.1 version?

Flygman
04-07-2018, 02:05 PM
8.0 actually [cool]

Willënskraft
04-07-2018, 02:34 PM
8.0 actually [cool]

And here I thought the 7.1 was the latest. How do you like it so far? Did you install a front or rear camera?

Flygman
04-07-2018, 02:49 PM
And here I thought the 7.1 was the latest. How do you like it so far? Did you install a front or rear camera?
I'm really impressed actually. Didn't expect a lot. Looks really modern and is fast enough. The only downsides imo is the finish (it's more black than the OEM plastics), and the wifi antenna is pretty damn weak.

It seems I'm getting really low amounts of bass not only from the rear, but also the front. Sound is pretty flat even though I turned the sub all the way up and chose a V-type equalizer profile. I've found no way of increasing the actual bass all around, only the sub input.
I haven't read up on any of the problems on these chinese units, might be a solution somewhere.

No cameras installed atm, will probably try to hook up my dashcam.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A4-RS4-B7-8E-Android-8-0-Car-Stereo-Sat-Nav-DVD-DAB-RADIO-System-CAN-CAM/173178823772?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

oVeRdOsE
04-08-2018, 04:44 AM
you wont be able to control the sub, I believe there's no sub output from the factory.
I didn't tried the android unit with the factory sub yet. I have a amp+ sub , RCA directly from the OEM sub output.
Bass is strong once ajusted correctly.

If you have low volume at the rear , I believe you have bose option? From the ebay pictures, I dont see anything that looks like a hi-low converter, just like xtrons units.
you can get one online.

for the wifi, I bought a new bigger longer antenna, I will report once installed.

Flygman
04-08-2018, 05:41 AM
you wont be able to control the sub, I believe there's no sub output from the factory.
I didn't tried the android unit with the factory sub yet. I have a amp+ sub , RCA directly from the OEM sub output.
Bass is strong once ajusted correctly.

If you have low volume at the rear , I believe you have bose option? From the ebay pictures, I dont see anything that looks like a hi-low converter, just like xtrons units.
you can get one online.

for the wifi, I bought a new bigger longer antenna, I will report once installed.
Yeah, I've seen some trash EQ's turn up bass all around with the sub input though, lol.

I ordered this converter: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Safe-Car-Audio-Converter-Loop-Isolator-Hi-Lo-2-way-RCA-Input-Output-Adapter/332608307530?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 . Please tell me if I got it all wrong, but the converter goes between the RCA's on the aftermarket harnesses right? I don't need to cut & solder cables from the OEM harness?

What antenna did you get? Mine is ridiculously bad.

oVeRdOsE
04-08-2018, 11:41 AM
Yeah, I've seen some trash EQ's turn up bass all around with the sub input though, lol.

I ordered this converter: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Safe-Car-Audio-Converter-Loop-Isolator-Hi-Lo-2-way-RCA-Input-Output-Adapter/332608307530?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 . Please tell me if I got it all wrong, but the converter goes between the RCA's on the aftermarket harnesses right? I don't need to cut & solder cables from the OEM harness?

What antenna did you get? Mine is ridiculously bad.

it should fit on the rca.


For the wifi, I took this one, I will fit it somewhere in the dash.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vigAAOSwlV9WTCcg/s-l1600.jpg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-4GHz-7-dBi-Wireless-Wifi-WLAN-SMA-Signal-Booster-Antenna-5X-Range-Extender/202083583347?hash=item2f0d1ec573:g:vigAAOSwlV9WTCc g

Flygman
04-09-2018, 11:47 AM
I switched to an old Asus antenna I had lying around, seemed to have boosted the download speed a bit. Took 5 minutes to update 4 apps, compared to not updating a single one in the 5-6 hours I've had it connected so far.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2500x2500/asus_rt_ac68u_ac1900_dual_band_wireless_gigabit_10 10152.jpg

sasquatters
04-12-2018, 12:04 PM
Anyone having a problem with rear audio with their S100? I had one before I fixed with a single wire, but the new one has that wire already in the harness and the tears aren't working.

maich
04-23-2018, 06:07 PM
Thanks to oVeRdOsE, Audi-a4sline and many others who posted reviews on the Xtron Head unit. I've owned my b6 for 12 yrs and i can say without a doubt that this HU is One of the most gratifying upgrades i've ever done to my car. I debated get getting the RSN just for just for am/fm reception and oem looks but besides that i felt in todays world the rsn had nothing else to offer. I pulled the trigger on the Xtron HU and my God. I am More than content. Installation was a breeze. All plug an play, Haven't connected the antenna coz i need to buy an adapter but i dont even care coz i got blue tooth. Had to play around to with the settings. *wasn't easy for an iphone guy* but the options are endless. Key for me is that the Stereo sounds Amazing. Tons better than Symphony II Radio. All my speakers work perfect. I had even forgotten i have a rear Subwoofer. Now all i wonna do is sit in that my b6 and drive. I know its chinese made and it could break tomorrow but ill buy another one if i have to. Again thanks to all the support from this audi forrum through the yrs.


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https://photos.app.goo.gl/r3bz8refKcOYPZnj2

MarksTitaniumA4
05-03-2018, 01:11 PM
I may be a little late haha but here’s mine:64857


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csevans
05-03-2018, 04:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dah1LTaWAAEqb06?format=jpg&name=large

New head unit - Pioneer AVH4200NEX

Not technically a Nav unit - it doesn't have a GPS ... but it does have Apple Car Play (and whatever the Android equivalent is). I like the Apple maps feature, and having it with a larger screen and voice prompts through the aisles is awesome.

Flygman
05-06-2018, 02:23 AM
Got it working finally. Had to reflash the OS.
https://i.imgur.com/m29iUjq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jZAii31.jpg

Got low audio in the rear tho [headbang]
I've just installed a hi-lo converter, but am still getting way lower volume in the rear. Is the rear amp not being powered at all perhaps?

Tenbender
05-15-2018, 10:07 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dah1LTaWAAEqb06?format=jpg&name=large

New head unit - Pioneer AVH4200NEX

Not technically a Nav unit - it doesn't have a GPS ... but it does have Apple Car Play (and whatever the Android equivalent is). I like the Apple maps feature, and having it with a larger screen and voice prompts through the aisles is awesome.

I'm looking to purchase the same unit, did you have to source any other wire harnesses from an outside vendor, or was everything included with the unit?

Deckster
05-15-2018, 10:33 AM
I'm looking to purchase the same unit, did you have to source any other wire harnesses from an outside vendor, or was everything included with the unit?

You’ll need a wire harness. I would use enfigcarstereo.com. They make good harnesses.


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csevans
05-15-2018, 11:37 AM
I'm looking to purchase the same unit, did you have to source any other wire harnesses from an outside vendor, or was everything included with the unit?

Yes, you'll need a wire harness.

http://maestro.idatalink.com/search/search?project=rr&vehicle_make_id=3&vehicle_year_id=2007&vehicle_model_id=166&vehicle_audio_id=4038

I added the iDataLink capability. So needed the matching harness set.

http://maestro.idatalink.com/accessories/category/product_id/324/project/rr

I'm not sure the iDatalink was worth it for the extra cost, but its easy enough to add in later.
The harness listed supports the steering wheel controls and such well.

CaptDS007
05-21-2018, 02:53 PM
I'm looking to purchase the same unit, did you have to source any other wire harnesses from an outside vendor, or was everything included with the unit?

If I may chime in, I started with a 4000NEX in my B7 (same as 4100 and 4200 except no Android Auto or free backup camera) and then transitioned to an AppRadio 4 before finally switching to Alpine and getting an ilx-107. The difference between the two brands' implementations of CarPlay is STAGGERINGLY different. With both pioneer units the framerate was bad, had lots of random reboots and crashes, and overall the experience seemed washed out and poorly planned. The Alpine unit feels like Apple actually had a say in its design (which as it turns out is exactly the case). It connects about twice as fast and I have not had a single glitch with it as long as I've used it in both wired and wireless CarPlay modes. Siri doesn't lag before voice commands, maps are rendered properly, album art in the music app appears much more clearly.

I implore you to avoid Pioneer's headunits, and the long list of complaints on AVIC411 and CarAudioForums, etc will attest to that as well.

Also as a side note, get all of your harnesses for the install from Enfig. They are plug and play and fix all rear speaker/subwoofer low volume issues, work flawlessly with steering wheel controls, and allow you to switch radio brands easily (switching to alpine radio just required spending about $25 on the PNP-ALP adapter from Enfig instead of having to re-splice everything).

I am as happy as can be now and don't want others to make the same mistake of being tempted by Pioneer's slightly lower prices and MUCH lower quality.

Tenbender
05-21-2018, 02:59 PM
If I may chime in, I started with a 4000NEX in my B7 (same as 4100 and 4200 except no Android Auto or free backup camera) and then transitioned to an AppRadio 4 before finally switching to Alpine and getting an ilx-107. The difference between the two brands' implementations of CarPlay is STAGGERINGLY different. With both pioneer units the framerate was bad, had lots of random reboots and crashes, and overall the experience seemed washed out and poorly planned. The Alpine unit feels like Apple actually had a say in its design (which as it turns out is exactly the case). It connects about twice as fast and I have not had a single glitch with it as long as I've used it in both wired and wireless CarPlay modes. Siri doesn't lag before voice commands, maps are rendered properly, album art in the music app appears much more clearly.

I implore you to avoid Pioneer's headunits, and the long list of complaints on AVIC411 and CarAudioForums, etc will attest to that as well.

Also as a side note, get all of your harnesses for the install from Enfig. They are plug and play and fix all rear speaker/subwoofer low volume issues, work flawlessly with steering wheel controls, and allow you to switch radio brands easily (switching to alpine radio just required spending about $25 on the PNP-ALP adapter from Enfig instead of having to re-splice everything).

I am as happy as can be now and don't want others to make the same mistake of being tempted by Pioneer's slightly lower prices and MUCH lower quality.

Thank you for the heads up, that Alpine unit was also in my sights.

tedtracy3
05-21-2018, 03:14 PM
I also have the 4200NEX in my B7 and I have had issues when plugging my wife's iPhone into the stereo and use Apple Carplay. However, I have been very pleased with how Android Auto has worked on the stereo and have had virtually no issues at all!

CaptDS007
05-21-2018, 03:43 PM
Those are the Focal ES165KX2 from their elite series. I'll be running them and a IDQ10 from the new HD900/5 JL amp that should arrive on Monday along with my wiring and sound deadening.
Seriously pumped! [emoji16]


I'm seriously jealous. I went with JL components which I like for the great mid-bass for hip-hop/rap but every time a song with vocal emphasis comes on I'm left slightly underwhelmed with the clarity/imaging and wishing I had gone with the Focals. Post pics of your install when you get a chance please!

Winners Eat Pho
06-01-2018, 06:51 AM
Has anyone figured out the low volume on rear speaker issue yet? I bought a harness from enfig, but swear it's not the right one.

Christian@enfig
06-01-2018, 07:41 AM
Has anyone figured out the low volume on rear speaker issue yet? I bought a harness from enfig, but swear it's not the right one.


What did you buy?
What car?
What factory radio?
What new radio?

AudiKilla
06-01-2018, 08:11 AM
Has anyone figured out the low volume on rear speaker issue yet? I bought a harness from enfig, but swear it's not the right one.

My car is a 2006 and I also upgraded from symphony 2 to symphony 2+ last year and since have had the low rear speaker issue. Does anyone know how to fix it? [headbang]

Do I need a hi-lo convertor and if so how do you even install it? [facepalm]

I really don't know how to fix it and would appreciate it if someone could help.

Christian@enfig
06-01-2018, 08:25 AM
My car is a 2006 and I also upgraded from symphony 2 to symphony 2+ last year and since have had the low rear speaker issue. Does anyone know how to fix it? [headbang]

Do I need a hi-lo convertor and if so how do you even install it? [facepalm]

I really don't know how to fix it and would appreciate it if someone could help.

I think the problem is that there were different amps for those years. If you reprogramming the radio with Vag-Com does not help then you may have to get creative with line drivers. I do not sell anything for OEM swaps.

Christian@enfig
06-01-2018, 09:31 AM
I've just installed a hi-lo converter, but am still getting way lower volume in the rear. Is the rear amp not being powered at all perhaps?

You purchased our HILO converter?

onedumslack
09-12-2018, 11:57 AM
here my review on the latest android head unit generation .

Model : Xtrons - ndroid 8.0 4GB RAM For Audi A4 S4 RS4 Car Stereo DVD GPS Radio Player 1024*600

Link : https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Android-8-0-4GB-RAM-For-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-Car-Stereo-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-1024-600/112774930092?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Pros :

- easy install
- no additional plug or wire required (b7 and b6 harness included). Antenna fits right in.
- Bose rear speaker are working. hi-lo converter is included with the harness
- Reverse screen work without additionnal connections
- boot time is almost intant (sleep)
- Ground loop noise is very very minimal. Barely noticable with the head ligh on. (planning to add a ground here to see if it can fix it)
- 4gb ram, 8 cores (benchmark antunu around 40 000, yeah its low, but acceptable for a head unit. My oneplus 5 benched at 182 000...)
- sound is better after some adjustment (Viper4droid under root, would be crazy)
- OK price for what you get.
- tons of support on XDA
- Xtrons launcher is very nice, optimized to operate the headunit with low concentration
- supports any format, its android
- >> steering wheel button are working as OEM, but the FM presets. FM presets are now working with the left trigger. (with symphony ii+ , you can't change fm presets, it will just scan fm bands)


Cons

Not much very irritating cons, but here some minor :

- Can't put the head unit ON whitout keys in the ingnition ACC. (this is the worst cons so far, because I think it was a wonderful feature with symphony 2, music for 1hr no keys, less chance to get my car stolen)
- wifi is very weak, but works
- Minimum sound is kind of high (root can fix that)
- FM radio information is weird
- plastic is shinier than oem plastics. not a big deal imho, hardly noticable.


Note :

- Plan to get some head unit removal tool ( not included with the unit)
- Plan to get a reverse camera, since the HU is compatible out of the box.
- Plan to remove your CD in the old unit before installation...................


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4748/40193579042_369fde03a8_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4770/26353985298_8b80ffac9f_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4760/26353984188_0614e520c2_h.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4670/26353983478_f69adde29e_h.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4701/26353982778_dc9583ae81_h.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Du8AAOSwXOhaaZt6/s-l1600.jpg

Which adapter did you use for the radio antenna?

oVeRdOsE
09-12-2018, 12:02 PM
Which adapter did you use for the radio antenna?

none, it was a direct fit-in.

onedumslack
09-12-2018, 12:05 PM
none, it was a direct fit-in.

Really? It only has 1 fakra connection on the back of the unit and the car has 2. I did plug it in but there is no AM reception because of that.

oVeRdOsE
09-12-2018, 12:43 PM
Really? It only has 1 fakra connection on the back of the unit and the car has 2. I did plug it in but there is no AM reception because of that.

like this? I didnt tried the AM to be honnest, cant tell. but yeah I can see theres one metallic connection

http://xtrons.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/500x380/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/b/pb78aa4rp-7.jpg

onedumslack
09-12-2018, 12:45 PM
like this? I didnt tried the AM to be honnest, cant tell. but yeah I can see theres one metallic connection

http://xtrons.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/500x380/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/b/pb78aa4rp-7.jpg

Yeah same one. I ordered a single fakra to dual fakra adapter for $10 hoping that will work but it doesn't come from Hong Kong for a few more days.

wding2000
09-12-2018, 04:47 PM
Really? It only has 1 fakra connection on the back of the unit and the car has 2. I did plug it in but there is no AM reception because of that.

They do have a model w/ dual fakra. You must ordered a different one

Andrew149
09-13-2018, 12:02 AM
Looks like there is android 8.0 now!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F29 2617294016


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oVeRdOsE
09-13-2018, 04:27 AM
Looks like there is android 8.0 now!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F29 2617294016


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its been a while, I got mine with 8.0 in january 2018

Winners Eat Pho
09-13-2018, 06:24 AM
What did you buy?
What car?
What factory radio?
What new radio?

We exchanged a couple of emails on it. I have that adapter but there is no harness in my console to plug into. I’ll give it another go and try to take some detailed photos. It would be a great win if we figure it out; it would solve a lot of ‘Ziners low rear speaker volume issues. I purchased the Enfig SRWH-AUD2-HILO from you guys as a recommendation buried somewhere in this thread.


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oVeRdOsE
09-13-2018, 08:03 AM
Yeah same one. I ordered a single fakra to dual fakra adapter for $10 hoping that will work but it doesn't come from Hong Kong for a few more days.

wow, I tried AM this morning, I never realize that it doesnt work ! thanks for the input.

I have a other cons with those unit :

- I leave my keys in the car, and ignittion OFF, the unit says ON. So I press the power button to shut it off manually. But the Bose amps stays ON !!! I drained my battery because of that. The only way to shutdown everything is to remove my keys.
OEM headunit does not do this.

(btw I park my car in my garage, this is why I leave keys in it)

onedumslack
09-13-2018, 08:12 AM
wow, I tried AM this morning, I never realize that it doesnt work ! thanks for the input.

I have a other cons with those unit :

- I leave my keys in the car, and ignittion OFF, the unit says ON. So I press the power button to shut it off manually. But the Bose amps stays ON !!! I drained my battery because of that. The only way to shutdown everything is to remove my keys.
OEM headunit does not do this.

(btw I park my car in my garage, this is why I leave keys in it)

My cable arrived yesterday and the single fakra to double fakra adapter worked to get AM back.

supremedk
09-13-2018, 02:05 PM
After reading 40+ pages I still didn’t see an answer to: ( I probably just missed it,sorry)

Do these units (winCE/Android) support DIS when using navigation? That’s my favorite part of the RNS-E nav, I am inclined to think they do not.

Like many of you I love the look of the RNS-E but it’s pretty long in the tooth feature wise.

What are your impressions on the build quality of the winCE and android units, feel of the buttons and knobs when you press/turn them??

oVeRdOsE
09-14-2018, 05:46 AM
After reading 40+ pages I still didn’t see an answer to: ( I probably just missed it,sorry)

Do these units (winCE/Android) support DIS when using navigation? That’s my favorite part of the RNS-E nav, I am inclined to think they do not.

Like many of you I love the look of the RNS-E but it’s pretty long in the tooth feature wise.

What are your impressions on the build quality of the winCE and android units, feel of the buttons and knobs when you press/turn them??

this feature was only with the color DIS?

I did not have nav OEM, nor the color DIS, so cant tell.
Since android hu are using google maps or 3rd party apps ( waze, sygic , maps.me, etc), I doubt the unit is programmed to send a specific info for the dis...
Theres so much more you can do with android, I believe its easy to ''forget'' about the dis feature.

The feel of my xtrons unit is very comparable to the oem symphony ii. I mean you can tell the plastics are cheaper, but its no obvious at all.
Working well since I made my review. The only issue so far, is when the unit is cold, the screen color are washed-out for a minute or so.

supremedk
09-14-2018, 09:10 AM
this feature was only with the color DIS?

I did not have nav OEM, nor the color DIS, so cant tell.
Since android hu are using google maps or 3rd party apps ( waze, sygic , maps.me, etc), I doubt the unit is programmed to send a specific info for the dis...
Theres so much more you can do with android, I believe its easy to ''forget'' about the dis feature.

The feel of my xtrons unit is very comparable to the oem symphony ii. I mean you can tell the plastics are cheaper, but its no obvious at all.
Working well since I made my review. The only issue so far, is when the unit is cold, the screen color are washed-out for a minute or so.

You are probably correct, I have color DIS. Once I enter the destination into the RNS-E, which is a pain , I never look at the unit again, all info is on the DIS, it’s a great feature I would hate to lose, even though I only use it a few times a year.

I guess If I missed the feature that much I just put the RNS-E back.

Thanks for the info, I am going to pull the trigger.

1.8Turbo4me!
09-16-2018, 08:53 AM
its been a while, I got mine with 8.0 in january 2018

what are your complete thoughts of it so far?

my rns-e seems to be acting up the last few days and might be time to see what else is out there.

oVeRdOsE
09-17-2018, 08:45 AM
what are your complete thoughts of it so far?

my rns-e seems to be acting up the last few days and might be time to see what else is out there.

since my review few pages back, nothing more to say.

Do not expect the same experience as a flagship android phone (if ever you are using a android phone).

I have a oneplus 5, with a fast chipset (snapdragon 835), and the headunit is not that precise to the touch, apps loading time is way slower, wifi reception is very weak.

But, for a car headunit is very very good. Fast enough to play music while Waze's running.

sound is way better than the symphony ii.

Is it the best ''mod'' for the price on those B7? Not really , but not the worst.

JB5
10-01-2018, 02:35 AM
oVeRdOsE,
I purchased the same head unit as you, coming from a Symphony 2+, this head unit is awesome [:D] everything works.
I also purchased a carplay dongle and now my car has carplay [drive], how awesome is that!!! now just need to get that rear view camera to sweeten the deal. aside form putting a 2.7t on my b6, this is a really good mod.
Heres a pic:
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Andrew149
10-04-2018, 12:22 AM
Anyone tried this android 8.0 Headunit with a 4K display and 4gbs of ram?


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F26 3960254353


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oVeRdOsE
10-04-2018, 04:22 AM
Anyone tried this android 8.0 Headunit with a 4K display and 4gbs of ram?


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F26 3960254353


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1024x600 doesnt sound like 4k for me.

This unit has the same specs as mine, I believe it should be almost the same.

Andrew149
10-04-2018, 11:49 AM
1024x600 doesnt sound like 4k for me.

This unit has the same specs as mine, I believe it should be almost the same.

what brand do you have? And the pricing on it?


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oVeRdOsE
10-04-2018, 12:37 PM
what brand do you have? And the pricing on it?


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this one at this price

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Android-8-0-4GB-RAM-For-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-Car-Stereo-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-1024-600/112774930092?fits=Model%3AA4%7CMake%3AAudi&hash=item1a41e8deac:g:am8AAOSwNDJaaZtI

Andrew149
10-04-2018, 12:41 PM
this one at this price

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Android-8-0-4GB-RAM-For-Audi-A4-S4-RS4-Car-Stereo-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-1024-600/112774930092?fits=Model%3AA4%7CMake%3AAudi&hash=item1a41e8deac:g:am8AAOSwNDJaaZtI

Gotcha xtrons seems to be the only one offering Bluetooth 5.0 at the moment


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Andrew149
10-04-2018, 01:07 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181004/137ad377772cbcc67fe7d3920967cbda.png

Trying to decide xtrons is the only one with Bluetooth 5.0 and have a 32gb internal memory which is nice


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oVeRdOsE
10-04-2018, 01:10 PM
Trying to decide xtrons is the only one with Bluetooth 5.0 and have a 32gb internal memory which is nice


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im more into the 4gb of ram. Since I want to keep the car for a while, id like to upgrade it overtime and be able to run Waze in 2022.

Andrew149
10-04-2018, 01:13 PM
im more into the 4gb of ram. Since I want to keep the car for a while, id like to upgrade it overtime and be able to run Waze in 2022.

Agreed there all 4gbs of ram now for android 8.0 the other thing is there is a rockchip and cortex processors which set these units apart.


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oVeRdOsE
10-05-2018, 04:38 AM
Agreed there all 4gbs of ram now for android 8.0 the other thing is there is a rockchip and cortex processors which set these units apart.


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right,

I did not search the difference between the 2, but rockchips are cheap chip that you can find in almost all chines android TV box. Most of the 2018 chip score around 4x xxx on antutu and are able to 4k playback.

at the end, its very good for a car headunit. Since its not used as hard on a cellphone. I mainly use waze+poweramp in the same time.

salva_t
10-13-2018, 06:39 AM
im trying to fit a pioneer AppRadio4 into my B7 cause the symphony II+ just isnt enough but i cant find any wiring harness adapters that plug n play from stock to pioneer, or any stock adapter for that matter. howd you wire your AppRadio3??? im hoping its some what similar.

salva_t
10-13-2018, 06:41 AM
I'm running a Pioneer AppRadio3 with my Samsung Galaxy S3 as the source for my navigation.

im trying to fit a pioneer AppRadio4 into my B7 cause the symphony II+ just isnt enough but i cant find any wiring harness adapters that plug n play from stock to pioneer, or any stock adapter for that matter. howd you wire your AppRadio3??? im hoping its some what similar.

Christian@enfig
10-13-2018, 07:20 AM
This video will cover the install. Just plug in your radio in the page below.

https://enfigcarstereo.com/radio-installation-audi-a4-s4-rs4-2002-2008-B6-B7/?make=Audi&model=A4/S4/RS4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN5Jh5qTq2U

papadelogan
10-15-2018, 03:45 AM
I used the harnesses from Enfig with my 2007 Avant. There are lest costly options, but the time & frustration you save are worth it. I used Metra brand wiring kits in my 2005.5 and had to solder everything up myself. It worked fine, no problems, but just took time. I've done a good amount of soldering and when it came time to do it again, I paid for the Enfig bits, ESPECIALLY the dash panel. It's the only one that looks good.

Christian@enfig
10-15-2018, 09:43 AM
I used the harnesses from Enfig with my 2007 Avant. There are lest costly options, but the time & frustration you save are worth it. I used Metra brand wiring kits in my 2005.5 and had to solder everything up myself. It worked fine, no problems, but just took time. I've done a good amount of soldering and when it came time to do it again, I paid for the Enfig bits, ESPECIALLY the dash panel. It's the only one that looks good.

Thanks! We just lowered the harness by $20 for the older cars. AUD2-HILO.

rdicriscio
02-24-2019, 08:01 AM
Has anyone on here attempted to do an iPad? When I go back to the B7 platform, the first thing I want to do is somehow retrofit an iPad in there instead of the RNS-E. Is it even possible to do this?


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naiku
02-24-2019, 06:57 PM
Has anyone on here attempted to do an iPad? When I go back to the B7 platform, the first thing I want to do is somehow retrofit an iPad in there instead of the RNS-E. Is it even possible to do this?


Yep, entirely possible to do. I forget his username, but there is a member here running an iPad. I have been running a Nexus 7 for year's without issue either, so there are other options as well as the iPad.

SilverStargazin
02-28-2019, 07:06 PM
Cheers.108979108980

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Rilla
02-28-2019, 07:42 PM
oVeRdOsE,
I purchased the same head unit as you, coming from a Symphony 2+, this head unit is awesome [:D] everything works.
I also purchased a carplay dongle and now my car has carplay [drive], how awesome is that!!! now just need to get that rear view camera to sweeten the deal. aside form putting a 2.7t on my b6, this is a really good mod.
Heres a pic:
87161
Can you access the radio within CarPlay?

JB5
03-01-2019, 02:07 AM
Can you access the radio within CarPlay?

No radio using carplay. You would need to get off and click the radio app.



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oVeRdOsE
03-01-2019, 05:08 AM
For people who wants data AND wifi hotspot automatically enable when android radio is ON :

Its working very well on my OnePlus 5 rooted + takser app + magisk systemizer (optional)

In my case, here the sequence :

1. Car BT detected
2. Data ON > Hotspot ON
3. Car BT not connected
4. Hotspot OFF > Data OFF > wifi ON


In details. quoted on XDA

In tasker :
1. New Profile -> State -> Net -> BT Connected
2. New Task -> Plugin -> Toggle Tethering -> Click Config Pencil -> Enable Tether -> Open setting buttons below -> Toggle Allow modify system settings
3. Go back, don't worry about clicking Install app to system and go back again, and back one more time -> Click the play button at the bottom left to test to see if it works. Prosper! (Don't turn tethering off just yet)
4. Go back to profiles, and long press on the Toggle Tethering Enable tether task and click Add Exit Task
5. New Task -> Plugin -> Toggle Tethering -> Click Config Pencil -> Click Disable Tether radio button -> go back 2 times -> click the play button at the bottom left to test to see if tethering has been turned off.

Flygman
06-01-2019, 06:00 AM
My android stereo completely died during a long roadtrip (13 hours of use before it suddenly did the "shutting down" animation and has not started since). Figure it overheated. No fuses are blown, stereo was disconnected overnight, and it still won't show any sign of life. Has anyone had the same thing happen/have any tips?

oVeRdOsE
06-03-2019, 07:20 AM
My android stereo completely died during a long roadtrip (13 hours of use before it suddenly did the "shutting down" animation and has not started since). Figure it overheated. No fuses are blown, stereo was disconnected overnight, and it still won't show any sign of life. Has anyone had the same thing happen/have any tips?

looks more like a red wire disconnected ( acc 12v+). If it was a hardware or software defect, I doubt it will go on shutdown process by itself ....

are you able to get in recovery?

1) Hold power button until unit turns off and (on my unit) light flashes.
2) Let go and then press the power button again. This somehow shuts off the unit since it would normally just reboot after releasing the button it seems.
3) Press the power button again to turn it on. It should hopefully go into recovery.

2pointOh
06-09-2019, 07:21 AM
I have an s100 for sale if anyone is interested!

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CVTwhatadumidea
06-14-2019, 06:16 AM
Has anyone tried running either the Alpine ILX-F259 or the ILX-F309?https://www.alpine-usa.com/uploads/f1cbc327bc6752ee229192bf8915bcbe

Link to ILX-F309: https://www.alpine-usa.com/product/alpine-halo9-radio-apple-carplay-android-auto-ilx-f309

Link to ILX-F259: https://www.alpine-usa.com/product/alpine-halo9-apple-carplay-android-auto--ilx-f259

I've been in a b6 or b7 since January of 2005. I'm fed up with not having streaming bluetooth. So as another less expensive option, I found this item https://www.amazon.com/BTS-VW2-Bluetooth-Streaming-Volkswagen-Vehicles/dp/B01JODG372

Aside from missing out on the benefits of a back up camera; I could have everything I want with an ipad mini and more than is offered with car play.

oVeRdOsE
06-14-2019, 06:35 AM
- cheapest option would be a FM A2DP module.
- if you have a symphony ii+ , there's some module for that. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Stereo-Bluetooth-Handsfree-A2DP-adapter-for-Audi-A4-B7-A3-TT-2007-11-/121545441144

see reviews, there's a lot of module. Enfig probably got the best, but the more expensive, see enfig web site. https://enfigcarstereo.com/DENSION_GBL3AU2.html

- Alpine or Pioneer double din headunits are very nice products, but it wont be plug and play. You'll need a module for audio output and steering wheel control. Also the frame to make it fit won't look OEM.

- Finally, as per this thread, android units are imo the best option, mostly if the B7 is your daily driver, you won't regret it.

CVTwhatadumidea
06-14-2019, 07:19 AM
Have an fm modulator now, and looking for better sound quality. The ebay option you listed is very similar to the Crux i posted earlier, but the ebay option does offer a mic that I may need if I opt to go with just the a2dp route.

The Alpine ILX units I listed have the updated look that comes in vehicles now. The screens are floating and 9 inches and use a single din; so you don't get all of the negative space that was previously associated with typical aftermarket solutions. Like this:https://scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/2d4bfe98996776211e2aba8e8ee21cbd/5DA1BD93/t51.2885-15/e15/53637304_2323717967874047_930004985865319157_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram.com
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/66/0e/56660ef8f97bb005d7da63de4daff73f.jpg

The main reason for me being interested in this is to have the option of a back-up camera that is activated when placing the vehicle in reverse.

Otherwise, I think an ipad mini with data will take care of everything I need as far as music, nav, and any other apps.

kp^
09-02-2019, 01:06 PM
Should I pull the trigger?

XTRONS Android 9.0 Car Stereo Radio DVD Player Octa Core 4G RAM 32G ROM Double Din 7 Inch Digital Multi-Touch Screen Head Unit Supports GPS Screen Mirroring WiFi OBD2 DVR TPMS for AUDI A4 B6 S4 B7 RS4

https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Android-Multi-Touch-Supports-Mirroring/dp/B07TK7W1L6/

The 6-disc has been broken for months, am/fm works but radio sucks. Has iphone adapter, so using old iphone for music. I think its time to upgrade.

2pointOh
09-02-2019, 01:10 PM
Should I pull the trigger?

XTRONS Android 9.0 Car Stereo Radio DVD Player Octa Core 4G RAM 32G ROM Double Din 7 Inch Digital Multi-Touch Screen Head Unit Supports GPS Screen Mirroring WiFi OBD2 DVR TPMS for AUDI A4 B6 S4 B7 RS4

https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Android-Multi-Touch-Supports-Mirroring/dp/B07TK7W1L6/

The 6-disc has been broken for months, am/fm works but radio sucks. Has iphone adapter, so using old iphone for music. I think its time to upgrade.

Want my s100? Hahah

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Jimmyjamms
09-02-2019, 04:32 PM
Speaking of s100, has anyone tried adding a CarPlay dongle?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F352706911369.
Wondering if it would work with the original s100 units.


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Hdale85
09-02-2019, 09:03 PM
Has anyone tried, or seen someone else try to get a clean digital signal out of these android units into a DSP or something? Those android units look cool and all but I don't trust they'll have good audio at all when compared to a high end Alpine unit or something. I love looking OEM, but Audio matters a lot to me as well lol.

Irufushi
09-03-2019, 01:28 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dah1LTaWAAEqb06?format=jpg&name=large

New head unit - Pioneer AVH4200NEX

Not technically a Nav unit - it doesn't have a GPS ... but it does have Apple Car Play (and whatever the Android equivalent is). I like the Apple maps feature, and having it with a larger screen and voice prompts through the aisles is awesome.

What 2din frame installed? link or name vendor code

oVeRdOsE
09-03-2019, 04:29 AM
Has anyone tried, or seen someone else try to get a clean digital signal out of these android units into a DSP or something? Those android units look cool and all but I don't trust they'll have good audio at all when compared to a high end Alpine unit or something. I love looking OEM, but Audio matters a lot to me as well lol.

from my friends b6/b7 stereo, speaker and OEM amp are the bottleneck.
my android unit got a richer and clearer sound than the OEM II+.

And for groundloop noise, there's a how-to few pages back.

Kingzilla17
09-06-2019, 01:35 PM
Anyone try the linked unit below? I know its only a 2GB dash but it seems to run good with the added dongle to use Apple play. Any input would be appreciated, not a big fan of the OEM looking units but that seems to be the go to option on this thread. TIA

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DDDYM53/ref=emc_b_5_t

Matt Devo
09-09-2019, 10:43 AM
Anyone try the linked unit below? I know its only a 2GB dash but it seems to run good with the added dongle to use Apple play. Any input would be appreciated, not a big fan of the OEM looking units but that seems to be the go to option on this thread. TIA

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DDDYM53/ref=emc_b_5_t

that's a standard double din unit that runs an old SoC and old version of Android (6.0). I can't see a single reason to purchase it, esp when newer "all screen" HUs are now available with direct fit and a current SoC (PX6)

Nollywood
09-11-2019, 04:44 AM
Personally, rather than try to replicate the OEM look of the RNS-E, with low-quality Chinese units, I would go with units from either Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony or Alpine.

At least these are quality, proven brands.

Jimmyjamms
09-17-2019, 03:27 AM
I ended up grabbing one of those CarPlay dongles. Works quite well. Using on one of the s100 Wince units. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/7273c0ad61723beaf6eb61a743c4e988.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/e685ac58d9bdedd27ad0f292511b942b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/326108c8a57621d10c83433131336d2e.jpg

naiku
09-17-2019, 01:55 PM
Personally, rather than try to replicate the OEM look of the RNS-E, with low-quality Chinese units, I would go with units from either Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony or Alpine.

At least these are quality, proven brands.

Yep, my tablet finally got too unreliable to keep it mounted in the car, went with a Kenwood 9906XR to replace it. Works nicely, wireless and wired Android Auto are decent, has plenty of features, debating whether to bother adding a Maestro RR unit.

Nollywood
09-18-2019, 02:20 AM
Yep, my tablet finally got too unreliable to keep it mounted in the car, went with a Kenwood 9906XR to replace it. Works nicely, wireless and wired Android Auto are decent, has plenty of features, debating whether to bother adding a Maestro RR unit.

Sounds good.

Does your car have MFSW, if yes, were you able to retain steering wheel controls?

naiku
09-18-2019, 06:21 AM
Does your car have MFSW, if yes, were you able to retain steering wheel controls?

Yeah, has an MFSW and steering wheel controls work. Used a harness from Enfig that I already had from the tablet install, was pretty much plug and play.

Christian@enfig
09-18-2019, 09:08 AM
Sounds good.

Does your car have MFSW, if yes, were you able to retain steering wheel controls?

This video covers the installation in an A4. I think your SEAT has the same radio.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN5Jh5qTq2U

Hdale85
09-18-2019, 09:22 AM
Yeah I was going to just get a double din, but they are so ugly in that spot :( idk what I'll do lol. Definitely need an upgrade though.

Hdale85
09-18-2019, 09:25 AM
I've kind of been wondering how one of these double din oversized units would look in our cars.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QV6RQ4N/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07QV6RQ4N&pd_rd_w=BjNu3&pf_rd_p=45a72588-80f7-4414-9851-786f6c16d42b&pd_rd_wg=nSvj2&pf_rd_r=W9R4YAZ2ADSG2BJTKKJQ&pd_rd_r=5a06d075-5821-4a22-a061-b988e596d01f&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRkhNV0YyWDEwQVNZJ mVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjU4NDQ1M084SlVHVTlTMzdJUyZlbmN yeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODYzNDAzMkpMUElMV0xGMTRDOSZ3aWRnZ XROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZ kb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

It'd be nice if one of them had a digital output so that if I'm not happy I can add an external DSP though lol. I don't really see anything like that though.

Hdale85
09-18-2019, 09:31 AM
Have an fm modulator now, and looking for better sound quality. The ebay option you listed is very similar to the Crux i posted earlier, but the ebay option does offer a mic that I may need if I opt to go with just the a2dp route.

The Alpine ILX units I listed have the updated look that comes in vehicles now. The screens are floating and 9 inches and use a single din; so you don't get all of the negative space that was previously associated with typical aftermarket solutions. Like this:https://scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/2d4bfe98996776211e2aba8e8ee21cbd/5DA1BD93/t51.2885-15/e15/53637304_2323717967874047_930004985865319157_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram.com
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/66/0e/56660ef8f97bb005d7da63de4daff73f.jpg

The main reason for me being interested in this is to have the option of a back-up camera that is activated when placing the vehicle in reverse.

Otherwise, I think an ipad mini with data will take care of everything I need as far as music, nav, and any other apps.

Please post pics if you try the alpine, I've kind of been toying with that idea as well lol. My only gripe with it is no wireless android auto or carplay.

naiku
09-18-2019, 12:30 PM
I've kind of been wondering how one of these double din oversized units would look in our cars.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QV6RQ4N/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07QV6RQ4N&pd_rd_w=BjNu3&pf_rd_p=45a72588-80f7-4414-9851-786f6c16d42b&pd_rd_wg=nSvj2&pf_rd_r=W9R4YAZ2ADSG2BJTKKJQ&pd_rd_r=5a06d075-5821-4a22-a061-b988e596d01f&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRkhNV0YyWDEwQVNZJ mVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjU4NDQ1M084SlVHVTlTMzdJUyZlbmN yeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODYzNDAzMkpMUElMV0xGMTRDOSZ3aWRnZ XROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZ kb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

It'd be nice if one of them had a digital output so that if I'm not happy I can add an external DSP though lol. I don't really see anything like that though.

The Stinger Elev8 has an optical output... https://stingerelectronics.com/catalog/multimedia/elev8

I looked into them briefly, but decided against it as the display would have sit way out from the dash due to the way the center console is shaped in the B7. For me it would have looked like garbage, you might be fine with it though.

Hdale85
09-18-2019, 01:04 PM
The Alpine unit is fully adjustable for how far out and high/low it'll sit. Still not sure it would look good or not lol. The nice thing about the alpine is you can mount it in the upper slot as it's only a single din unit.

The optical out is nice on the stinger, but that's a lot of money if I'm not using it's internal processing lol.

i3oricua
09-18-2019, 01:25 PM
I ended up grabbing one of those CarPlay dongles. Works quite well. Using on one of the s100 Wince units. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/7273c0ad61723beaf6eb61a743c4e988.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/e685ac58d9bdedd27ad0f292511b942b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/326108c8a57621d10c83433131336d2e.jpg

Would you share your dongle link with us? (giggity)


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Jimmyjamms
09-18-2019, 02:00 PM
Would you share your dongle link with us? (giggity)


They’re all the same I think. eBay or amazon. Carlinkit is the brand. I haven’t been able to get Siri working yet though. Trying to troubleshoot that. Everything else is sweet though

Jimmyjamms
09-18-2019, 02:02 PM
I won’t link you to the seller I bought from as he was a dick to communicate with

i3oricua
09-18-2019, 02:04 PM
They’re all the same I think. eBay or amazon. Carlinkit is the brand. I haven’t been able to get Siri working yet though. Trying to troubleshoot that. Everything else is sweet though

Thanks. I appreciate it


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naiku
09-18-2019, 02:23 PM
The optical out is nice on the stinger, but that's a lot of money if I'm not using it's internal processing lol.

I hear you, the Kenwood I am running now cost about that much and I'm using none of its internal processing, just a pair of RCAs out to a Mini DSP 8x12DL. One of the reasons I hated giving up a tablet, basically a cheap media player that has no internal processing so I did not care about bypassing all of it. Oh well.

Hdale85
09-18-2019, 02:32 PM
What's with car displays being limited to 1024x600? lol Even stinger acts like that's some crazy high resolution screen but honestly it's pretty low res for a screen that size.

Hdale85
09-18-2019, 05:48 PM
I hear you, the Kenwood I am running now cost about that much and I'm using none of its internal processing, just a pair of RCAs out to a Mini DSP 8x12DL. One of the reasons I hated giving up a tablet, basically a cheap media player that has no internal processing so I did not care about bypassing all of it. Oh well.

How do you like your mini-DSP setup. I have a nice USB to I2S interface that is android compatible so I was thinking of using it with a nice DAC into a Mini-DSP or something with one of the android head units. I'm not 100% certain it will work, but it should. Android has had support for USB audio interfaces since like lollipop I believe.....or ICS something like that.

Hdale85
09-18-2019, 06:25 PM
Hmm I'm kind of tempted to get one of these

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RFQJM96/ref=twister_B07S2V179Y?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

Or the 8.8" unit, and get an extended cable and dash mount the screen. I'd have to figure out something to put in the radio slot.....But I think it might be cool. Also these units use the latest Atom CPU, 4gb of ram, and has an SPDIF digital output. So you could connect it to an external DSP.

naiku
09-19-2019, 06:10 AM
How do you like your mini-DSP setup. I have a nice USB to I2S interface that is android compatible so I was thinking of using it with a nice DAC into a Mini-DSP or something with one of the android head units. I'm not 100% certain it will work, but it should. Android has had support for USB audio interfaces since like lollipop I believe.....or ICS something like that.

I'm very happy with it, for the price it's hard to beat. Depending on how many speakers you wanted to run you could get away with using the C-DSP 6x8 which is only $275, another cheap DSP is the Dayton Audio DSP-408 for $150. A DAC into a DSP will work perfectly, the Nexus 7 I had used Android 4 and USB audio worked perfectly into any of the DSP's I used (JBL MS8, Audison BitOne.1, Helix DSP and now the Mini DSP). If you end up with a DSP that has an optical input, pick up a Sabre USB DAC and run digital into the DSP.

Hdale85
09-19-2019, 05:18 PM
Wasn't the Helix DSP a rebranded Mini DSP? Or maybe it was a different one lol. No was that the umm, Soundstream DSP or whatever it was?

Hdale85
09-19-2019, 05:33 PM
Hmm that dayton DSP doesn't look bad actually. Too bad it doesn't have digital input lol. Seems to be a lot of decent DSP's now for the money though, the JL TWK-88 looks decent too.

kambouris
10-02-2019, 09:13 AM
I ended up grabbing one of those CarPlay dongles. Works quite well. Using on one of the s100 Wince units. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/7273c0ad61723beaf6eb61a743c4e988.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/e685ac58d9bdedd27ad0f292511b942b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190917/326108c8a57621d10c83433131336d2e.jpg

Love what u did, is the sound affected when music is playing? Mine crackles

Jimmyjamms
10-02-2019, 01:54 PM
Love what u did, is the sound affected when music is playing? Mine crackles

No sound is good.

docurley
10-04-2019, 02:18 PM
Running an Xtrons unit Octa core 32gb 4gb ram with a custom A droid 8 rom soon to be 9. I also run a USB hub with a 250gb ssd but then I was running this part on my old unit.

general0
10-07-2019, 03:13 PM
Anyone seen this model for the B7 A4 yet? I have a Xtrons in there now but this is really cool I think! Don't want to cut my dash to install it though.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Multimedia-Player-Stereo-GPS-Radio-Android-Screen-for-Audi-A4-B6-B7-8E-MMI/254319030926?fits=Make%3AAudi&hash=item3b3698728e:g:80sAAOSwhpBdRRwm

oVeRdOsE
10-08-2019, 06:53 AM
Anyone seen this model for the B7 A4 yet? I have a Xtrons in there now but this is really cool I think! Don't want to cut my dash to install it though.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Multimedia-Player-Stereo-GPS-Radio-Android-Screen-for-Audi-A4-B6-B7-8E-MMI/254319030926?fits=Make%3AAudi&hash=item3b3698728e:g:80sAAOSwhpBdRRwm

yikes wont fit the car period. Even on modern car (mazda , bmw ) it looks odd. Like if the designers forget about a screen and they put it randomly on the dash.
Anyway, helps to keep the eye up, so not a bad thing.

keep searching and report [:D]

simbat
10-08-2019, 08:37 AM
Have someone installed 9" Alpine unit ? Alpine in Europe, UK, Australia ect. offers a double din kit:
https://www.alpine.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/A4-X208AU-768x432.jpg

https://www.alpine.com.au/shop/perfect-fit-solutions/audi/a4-b7/8-navigation-x208au-audi-a4/

Here is the kit in the UK Alpine web site:
https://www.alpine.co.uk/p/Products/SingleView/KIT-8A4

Will that harness work with USDM cars ? If yes then only will have to see which 8" models Alpine USA is offering in the USA.

asg1290
10-09-2019, 05:19 PM
Here is the kit in the UK Alpine web site:
https://www.alpine.co.uk/p/Products/SingleView/KIT-8A4

Will that harness work with USDM cars ? If yes then only will have to see which 8" models Alpine USA is offering in the USA.

It should, there isn't a difference as far as I know. That one looks pretty decent, most of the double din covers just don't look right.

Redryuu
10-10-2019, 02:28 AM
yikes wont fit the car period. Even on modern car (mazda , bmw ) it looks odd. Like if the designers forget about a screen and they put it randomly on the dash.
Anyway, helps to keep the eye up, so not a bad thing.

keep searching and report [:D]

There was a model in Europe that it pops up from the dash like that, I’ve been browsing the classifieds in Switzerland

kambouris
10-10-2019, 10:51 AM
How do I wire a backup camera to my xtrons head unit

oVeRdOsE
10-10-2019, 11:33 AM
How do I wire a backup camera to my xtrons head unit

The camera got a RCA (yellow) for the image and a 12v+ wire.
- rca to the video input from the xtrons
- 12v+ to the backup light from the car.
- you'll need to make a little hole in the license plate OEM light to get the wire through. And if you have an avant, good luck.


do you have a complete assembly with the integrated cam, or a cam in the light bulb socket?

cam should be use as a quick initial scan for people/animals/object. Not for backuping, hate seeing retards in cheap ass hyundai taking 2 minutes to get out a parking spot because they are looking in front.... If you people dont have xxxx hours of trucker training, please look back in reverse [evilsmile] lol sorry for the offtopic [>_<]