DIY Ambiance Lighting (Full time adjustable foot lighting)

[DavidB8]

I've redone the write up and pictures so it's better to follow. Check it out here: http://www.audienthusiasts.com/VagComINLight.html

[CurbKiller]

WELL DONE!

I'm going to try this right now!

[DavidB8]

Excellent. Guys please report back on your successes.

Still can't beleive I figured this out. Guess Ross-Tech will just steal my work and integrate it in future releases :P

[NPuter]

Excellent. Guys please report back on your successes.

Still can't beleive I figured this out. Guess Ross-Tech will just steal my work and integrate it in future releases :P

great work!!!! I think you because the Mod God way before this [;)] +1 rep if it was still here...
and how did you figure out what to change 09-Cent. Elec. Byte 16 to [confused]

PLEASE someone figure out how to make this happen on non-mmi [:/]
Maybe someone can figure out what coding/adaptations are changed by the hidden menu. That way, those of us without that luxury can still do this.

And also, are those the standard graphics for the 3G MMI - they look different from non-MMi/2G MMI...

[CurbKiller]

The best 5 mins I spend with VCDS yet! worked like a charm.

Interesting that I didn't have tags for Front/Rear Footwell Lights Installed as your screen shot shows. I was still able to change the bit but threw me off for a sec. Could have been done in 4 mins ;)

[DavidB8]

great work!!!! I think you because the Mod God way before this [;)] +1 rep if it was still here...
and how did you figure out what to change 09-Cent. Elec. Byte 16 to [confused]

PLEASE someone figure out how to make this happen on non-mmi [:/]
Maybe someone can figure out what coding/adaptations are changed by the hidden menu. That way, those of us without that luxury can still do this.

And also, are those the standard graphics for the 3G MMI - they look different from non-MMi/2G MMI...

They should be the standard graphics. I haven't changed anything. Other than the splash screen..

I'm sure there is a way to figure out the changes as Rene posted how to enable to TPMS without enabling the MMI menu. I just don't know where to look.


The best 5 mins I spend with VCDS yet! worked like a charm. I was still able to change the bit but threw me off for a sec. Could have been done in 4 mins ;)

EXCELLENT!! I'm using the latest Beta Version so that may have been why I had those tags.

[Alkivar]

will head to where I've got my car stored for the winter tomorrow to test this on an A5.

[DavidB8]

will head to where I've got my car stored for the winter tomorrow to test this on an A5.

I'm really anxious to hear how you make out. I really don't see why this wouldn't work on the A5.

The really cool thing about this mod is it's not a B8 option anywhere. And this group gets to be the first to have it [;)]

[NPuter]

They should be the standard graphics. I haven't changed anything. Other than the splash screen..

I'm sure there is a way to figure out the changes as Rene posted how to enable to TPMS without enabling the MMI menu. I just don't know where to look.



EXCELLENT!! I'm using the latest Beta Version so that may have been why I had those tags.
ok - good to know it is not a complete dead end for non-mmi

I will be anxiously awaiting someone discovering how to do this on a non-mmi... (hint...hint...Rene [;)])[/QUOTE]

[Cabal_san]

Nice work! So can you control the lumen output of the footwells while moving using the MMI then?

On a tangent, I just pulled up your town on google maps! Holly effing shit you are way the hell at the top of the world! Man, do you have to take a blow torch to the engine block in the morning? I think I saw a polar bar on the corner of MacKenzie street & Millen st, be careful out there at night!

Aww, just noticed you edited mod 5f. Not available on the P-. Figures!!!!!

[DavidB8]

Oh and to answer the question of which Byte to change. I didn't know. What I did know was that generally 1 enables and 0 disables. Since the foot lighting is the only true ambiance lighting and had it's own vag code to enable I started there. I figured if 2 of the items where listed together in one Bit. then the other Bytes that had to do with the lighting were most likely there as well. So I enabled the Ambiance on the MMI since I had done that before then went to trial and error on what I believed to be the interior lighting Bit. I did not see any immediate changes with the others but when I hit the correct one the MMI became enabled from being grayed out. I'd put money that some of the other unused values are for the door trim lights available on the A6-A8.

So there you go. A bit of previous exploring and an educated guess found the right spot.

[DavidB8]

Nice work! So can you control the lumen output of the footwells while moving using the MMI then?

On a tangent, I just pulled up your town on google maps! Holly effing shit you are way the hell at the top of the world! Man, do you have to take a blow torch to the engine block in the morning? I think I saw a polar bar on the corner of MacKenzie street & Millen st, be careful out there at night!

Aww, just noticed you edited mod 5f. Not available on the P-. Figures!!!!!

I haven't tried it while driving. What do you want from me sheeshh.. [:p]

Yeah I am in the Northern most town in Canada. Nothing but hamlets past here.

Now wondering. For the 2G you enable in module 07 not 5F. I wonder if that would work.

[Alkivar]

yeah for those of you who dont know... A marks the north pole... err I mean where DavidB8 lives:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5701/screenshot20100221at101.png


David's family is probably part Caribou.

[aznpxdd]

Wow nice. So we can activate folding mirrors for US cars?

[Runge]

I haven't tried it while driving. What do you want from me sheeshh.. [:p]

Yeah I am in the Northern most town in Canada. Nothing but hamlets past here.

Now wondering. For the 2G you enable in module 07 not 5F. I wonder if that would work.

Well if you call a town of 5 people, then Alert is the place to be! Don't think they have anything other than snowmobiles and dog sleds...

[Quattrolover]

Nice work David. Man this car is feature rich!

[DavidB8]

Wow nice. So we can activate folding mirrors for US cars?

Don't get ahead of me .... I am waiting for folding mirrors and the switch and trim panel. Ordered paid for and my supplier had them, should be here in 2-3 weeks I hope. Then We will see. What I can tell you is I was able to code the door modules, the convenience module and enable the MMI for it. So it does look promising. That's a whole other DIY though when I get the parts here. The next requested mod though is the Fire Extinguisher in the foot well so I will be finishing that one first.


Well if you call a town of 5 people, then Alert is the place to be! Don't think they have anything other than snowmobiles and dog sleds...

Nope not big enough to be a town, a village or hamlet. I like the sounds of Resolute. Way farther north and nearly no people..


Nice work David. Man this car is feature rich

Yeah maybe I will qualify for an Audizine feature car one day.

[Runge]

Nope not big enough to be a town, a village or hamlet. I like the sounds of Resolute. Way farther north and nearly no people..






Only thing Resolute is good for is if you want to drive to the North Pole in a Hilux

[macuser]

The next requested mod though is the Fire Extinguisher in the foot well so I will be finishing that one first.





will this fire extinguisher fit into your under seat storage bin? do you have a part number for this fire extinguisher? thanks

[jcs]

Only thing Resolute is good for is if you want to drive to the North Pole in a Hilux

With a toilet seat on the hitch :P


PS. Nice work Dave. Check your PM.

[DavidB8]

will this fire extinguisher fit into your under seat storage bin? do you have a part number for this fire extinguisher? thanks

No I'm doing the Audi footwell install. I didn't mount mine on the seat since I wanted both bins. I have everything except 2 mounting parts. They should be here with the rest of my upcoming mods in a few weeks. Then I'll post confirmed parts and install.

Now for the non MMI people. I checked the posting on the TPMS and the menu item was enabled in the Radio module 56. The TPMS was enabled under Byte 8 bit 6. So if someone wanted to start enabling and disabling bits you may be able to find the correct one. Kind of how I found the right bit. I don't have the module so I can't do it but someone could go take a look in that module in the long code and see if anything pops up. If you do remember what you changed so you can put it back. I copied mine before I started then went to town. This can be time consuming with resetting the MMI after each change. I don't know if you need to but according to the instructions for the TPMS you did. So could take some dedicated time.

[NPuter]

No I'm doing the Audi footwell install. I didn't mount mine on the seat since I wanted both bins. I have everything except 2 mounting parts. They should be here with the rest of my upcoming mods in a few weeks. Then I'll post confirmed parts and install.

Now for the non MMI people. I checked the posting on the TPMS and the menu item was enabled in the Radio module 56. The TPMS was enabled under Byte 8 bit 6. So if someone wanted to start enabling and disabling bits you may be able to find the correct one. Kind of how I found the right bit. I don't have the module so I can't do it but someone could go take a look in that module in the long code and see if anything pops up. If you do remember what you changed so you can put it back. I copied mine before I started then went to town. This can be time consuming with resetting the MMI after each change. I don't know if you need to but according to the instructions for the TPMS you did. So could take some dedicated time.

Yep - the non mmi radio is module 56 - that is where I enabled the CAR menu entry for instrument cluster (originally not there on P-)
cabal_san - you and I need to get working on this - there must be something in 56-radio to enable the ambiance lighting menu... I am going to refuse to believe this is an MMI only mod...

[JSitthi]

I can confirm that this works on the 2G MMI as well, the setting is located (in the hidden menu) under DIAG SETTINGS -> APK 0x01, 0x0B, 0x0C -> Interior lighting (extended), you'll want to select that option and it will turn from an empty box to a checked box. Reboot the MMI and under CAR you will see the option "Background Lighting".

Thanks for the find David!

[B8_Jim]

I checked the posting on the TPMS and the menu item was enabled in the Radio module 56.

I have a premium plus w/o NAV and have messed with this module a fair amount. I was able to get the battery level meter to enable - Ross-Tech even has some "help" on changing the bits - I played around with the ones that should have been ambiance lighting but never got a new menu. After you post tonight I went into 09 and changed byte 16/bit 2 and get the 4F same as you. Went back and messed with the 56 car menu options again, but was never able to get an ambience light menu.[headbang]

Thanks for the post anyway - hope some one else (rlarsen?) can give us non NAV people some pointers.

[DavidB8]

I can confirm that this works on the 2G MMI as well, the setting is located (in the hidden menu) under DIAG SETTINGS -> APK 0x01, 0x0B, 0x0C -> Interior lighting (extended), you'll want to select that option and it will turn from an empty box to a checked box. Reboot the MMI and under CAR you will see the option "Background Lighting".

Thanks for the find David!

That is excellent news thanks for posting the 2G info. If you don't mind I will add it to the write up.

If anyone one with the 2G wants to take pics of the menu I'd be more than happy to add them to the write up.

[leviathan18]

nice mod thanks for it i will try it when i have time in the Q5

[DavidB8]

nice mod thanks for it i will try it when i have time in the Q5

Let us know if it works out. Would like to know what models this works on.

[Ryan_T]

How badly can I screw up my car if it doesn't exist? Mine is non-nav mmi from 2009.

[DavidB8]

How badly can I screw up my car if it doesn't exist? Mine is non-nav mmi from 2009.

Well if you program the module I listed and you don't have the option it will either take the programing and do nothing or tell you the code is out of range and wont program. I tried all the programing available today on one Byte of the ABS module with no ill effects so I don't think there is a self destruct program code on the car anywhere. Can't tell you its perfectly safe because who knows for sure. What I do know is I would try it, but you guys are at least within range of your dealer so if something went wrong you can just go play dumb and say radio don't work.. Fix it...

[rlarsen]

I have a premium plus w/o NAV and have messed with this module a fair amount. I was able to get the battery level meter to enable - Ross-Tech even has some "help" on changing the bits - I played around with the ones that should have been ambiance lighting but never got a new menu. After you post tonight I went into 09 and changed byte 16/bit 2 and get the 4F same as you. Went back and messed with the 56 car menu options again, but was never able to get an ambience light menu.[headbang]

Thanks for the post anyway - hope some one else (rlarsen?) can give us non NAV people some pointers.
Good find David!

No I don't know how to do it on a non-MMI. I don't have the module so I can't test it either.

But as David say - the MMI menu item should be enabled somewhere in the Radio unit like the Battery Meter (under Adaptation) or TPMS (under Long coding) menu items are.

The change on the unit "9 - Cent. Elect." should be the same on non-MMI.

I'll go and try it on my MMI high 2G - and see what's happens.

PS.: it is actual bit 6 that is been changed [;)]

[rlarsen]

Don't get ahead of me .... I am waiting for folding mirrors and the switch and trim panel. Ordered paid for and my supplier had them, should be here in 2-3 weeks I hope. Then We will see. What I can tell you is I was able to code the door modules, the convenience module and enable the MMI for it. So it does look promising. That's a whole other DIY though when I get the parts here. The next requested mod though is the Fire Extinguisher in the foot well so I will be finishing that one first.

Have you decided which one you'll retrofit - the one under the passengers seat (like I did) or the one in the right foot well??

[ASU Daniel]

david [up] [up]

coming through again

[rlarsen]

I have posted the find on the German motor-talk.de forum - and it can be confirmed that it is also working on non-MMI....

The coding should be this one:


[56 - Radio]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 8

Bit 7 - Interior Light Settings active - (1 = active)


See attachment in the motor-talk thread: Lichtpaket Fußraumbeleuchtung (http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/lichtpaket-fussraumbeleuchtung-t1698024.html?page=2#post23488516)

[rlarsen]

FAQ:
The lights stay on all the time the car is on.

If you turn them all the way down they will go to full brightness when you open the door

Master light switch will not control these lights at all anymore. They will work separately through the MMI.

If it is working as it does on the A6, then the foot well lights should only be active while the normal Ambient lights are active (when the light sensor detects that it is dark enough).

When you open the doors - then it is the normal cabin lights that is been activated.

[rlarsen]

I've now enabled it on my MMI high 2G - and it is working as I expected.

If the light switch is on position "Auto" - then the foot well light will be activated when the light sensor detects that it is dark enough (the same as with the red Ambience lights).

If the light switch is on position "Headlights" - then the foot well light will be activated too - at all time.

With MMI 2G - it has another name then with 3G [:)]

http://audiforum.us/members/rlarsen-albums-diverse-picture576-background-lighting.jpg

http://audiforum.us/members/rlarsen-albums-diverse-picture577-background-lighting-settings.jpg

[rlarsen]

will this fire extinguisher fit into your under seat storage bin? do you have a part number for this fire extinguisher? thanks

You can read more about the part # (foot well and under the seat) and how to install the fire extinguisher under the seat - and what you need to modify if you do it on sport seats. http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?313850-Got-it-Audi-OEM-UMBRELLA-%28for-drivers-seat-box%29-amp-other-OEM-accessories-%28w-pics%29

[hender]

i have so much manlove for david & rlarsen...:D

[awhk82]

This is amazing find, thanks David and rlarsen for all the info!!

[DavidB8]

Thanks Rene, looks like we have all versions figured out now. I knew you'd find the answer [;)]
I'm going with the foot well mount on mine. It was your post that pointed me in the right direction though.

I did try mine in Auto but I guess it was dark enough that no matter what I was set at the lights where on. Good job everyone. I will update the post with all the information so people don't have to read through everything to find all the answers.

[NPuter]

I have posted the find on the German motor-talk.de forum - and it can be confirmed that it is also working on non-MMI....

The coding should be this one:


[56 - Radio]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 8

Bit 7 - Interior Light Settings active - (1 = active)


See attachment in the motor-talk thread: Lichtpaket Fußraumbeleuchtung (http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/lichtpaket-fussraumbeleuchtung-t1698024.html?page=2#post23488516)
+1million rep!!!

so what exactly do you have to change **> I assume the code above as well as the change in 09-cent elec?

I will try this as soon as I get home!

EDIT: why the heck do two hyphens turn into **

[rlarsen]

I think this will collect the three system configurations....

MMI high (2G):

Enable the Interior lighting (extended) MMI item:
[07 - Control Head]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 1
add 2 to the existing value

MMI Plus (3G):

[5F - Information Electr.]
Not know yet how to enable the Interior lighting menu item with VCDS....

BUT can be enabled through the "hidden menu":
- select 'Interior Light' in 'car/cardevicelist'
- put 'Interior light' on 1 in 'car/carmenuoperations'

MMI basic (non-MMI - 2G) (symphony/concert radio):

[56 - Radio]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 8

Bit 7 - Interior Light Settings active - (1 = active)

Then enable the 'connection' between Cent. Elect and the Interior light MMI menu item (the same on all systems):

[09 – Cent. Elect.]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 16

Bit 6 - Set this bit manually to “1” - (1 = active)

If the menu item is still grayed out - then a restart of MMI is required now...

[NPuter]

I think this will collect the three system configurations....

MMI high (2G):

Enable the Interior lighting (extended) MMI item:
[07 - Control Head]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 1
add 2 to the existing value

MMI Plus (3G):

[5F - Information Electr.]
Not know yet how to enable the Interior lighting menu item with VCDS....

BUT can be enabled through the "hidden menu":
- select 'Interior Light' in 'car/cardevicelist'
- put 'Interior light' on 1 in 'car/carmenuoperations'

MMI basic (non-MMI - 2G) (symphony/concert radio):

[56 - Radio]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 8

Bit 7 - Interior Light Settings active - (1 = active)

Then enable the 'connection' between Cent. Elect and the Interior light MMI menu item (the same on all systems):

[09 – Cent. Elect.]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 16

Bit 6 - Set this bit manually to “1” - (1 = active)

If the menu item is still grayed out - then a restart of MMI is required now...

perfect! I will try this as soon as I get a change.

Question: does this ambiance/background lighting include the rear footwell lights as well?

[DavidB8]

Oh sure he gets the million rep...

yes you have to change both the radio and 09.

Rene are you sure it's bit 7? I thought it started at bit 0 which would make it 6. I changed it 7 because you probably know better.

[rlarsen]

Oh sure he gets the million rep...

yes you have to change both the radio and 09.

Rene are you sure it's bit 7? I thought it started at bit 0 which would make it 6. I changed it 7 because you probably know better.
You always get 8 bits - from 7 to 0 (from left to right)

[rlarsen]

perfect! I will try this as soon as I get a change.

Question: does this ambiance/background lighting include the rear footwell lights as well?

I haven't checked that yet - I'll do it to night.

[NPuter]

Oh sure he gets the million rep...

yes you have to change both the radio and 09.

Rene are you sure it's bit 7? I thought it started at bit 0 which would make it 6. I changed it 7 because you probably know better.
you already got a million rep from me...lol - but you also have the title as the Mod God [;)]

[DavidB8]

Yes it includes the rear. I did check that.

[Kay15]

Thats it I need some Vag Com Help in Toronto/Mississauga anybody? So the White lights under the seats and by the feet stay on as the head lights do? Does this work by turning on just the DRLs (Not leaving it on Auto).

[DavidB8]

For some unknown reason Photobucket is playing havoc with the pictures. I'll try and fix. I've been editing down the post so I hope it doesn't mess anyone up. If you need something I've removed or changed let me know. I was in a real rush to get this up yesterday because I know some where anxious to try it so now I need to make it a bit more post friendly.

@Kavan yes this will work full time in any position except Auto. In Auto they go off and on with the headlights.

[Superduke]

Very great mod dude!!! My cable is sent today, just waitin a few eeeks to arrive......

[CurbKiller]

Your instructions advise to move the Interior Light selector from 0 to 1 (in Hidden Menu) which obviously works. But if you move it to 5 you then have the ability to alter the foot well lighting while in motion. I noticed that I wasn't able to this morning on my drive to work, took at a look at your instructions and only after viewing the screen shots did it dawn on me. Items set to "5" in hidden menu are items I'm able to adjust while driving so took the chance and it seems it works.

The other oddity that came up was that the foot well lighting setting changed to it's most darkest setting after the car has been sitting for a while. I'll report back as to if the "5" setting changed this as well.

P

[Kthing]

Thats it I need some Vag Com Help in Toronto/Mississauga anybody? So the White lights under the seats and by the feet stay on as the head lights do? Does this work by turning on just the DRLs (Not leaving it on Auto).

Count me in if you find anyone to do this!

[DavidB8]

Your instructions advise to move the Interior Light selector from 0 to 1 (in Hidden Menu) which obviously works. But if you move it to 5 you then have the ability to alter the foot well lighting while in motion. I noticed that I wasn't able to this morning on my drive to work, took at a look at your instructions and only after viewing the screen shots did it dawn on me. Items set to "5" in hidden menu are items I'm able to adjust while driving so took the chance and it seems it works.

The other oddity that came up was that the foot well lighting setting changed to it's most darkest setting after the car has been sitting for a while. I'll report back as to if the "5" setting changed this as well.

P

Thats it.. I'm never releasing a mod again until I pull a tuner trick and test it for a month first [:/]

Good catch on the 1 vs 5 setting. I didn't get a chance to play and drive as I wanted to get the mod out ASAP but it looks like the final write up is far from completion as more information comes in.

If the lights are dimming overtime there may be a setting somewhere to adjust the timeout. Problem is it would most likely be an adaptation code and finding that is like a needle in a haystack. But let me know. If moving to 5 doesn't change it and I wouldn't think it would (but who knows) I have other ideas to try.

[tsn80]

Got this to work today on my 2G MMI. Not sure if I did it all correctly, but my footwell lights don't turn off and on when headlights are on Auto, they just stay on at all times even in daylight. Also, there seems to be an extra bright setting on the footwell lightsthat can't be activated through the MMI. I noticed when turning off the engine, the footwell lights get extra bright, more than I can get through the MMI setting.

[Alkivar]

**** A5 TESTED ****

ok so here is the news with regards to A5... as you guys know my car is an '08 A5 S-line... this does work in my car, but not quite the same.

values on my car were as follows: Byte 16 was the same 00001111 before the change and 01001111 (4F) after.

MMI 2G Control Head > 10 > Chan 1 value was 38168 before and 38170 after.

this did enable Interior Lighting (extended) in the hidden menu.

upon reboot there was a Background Lighting in the MMI Car menu.

It is adjustable via control knob.

Brightness on 100% display is not full brightness however. It is still brighter when you open the doors.

I want to say brightness set to 100% is more like 75% of total brightness compared to door open levels.

[DavidB8]

Rene have you come across anyone mentioning the module/s that change on the 3G after a menu items are enabled? If I know where to look I can run a full scan of the module before and after to discover what the adaptation code change needs to be but I'm not sure what module that information is stored in.

SPECIAL REQUEST.....

If anyone in the ROW with a 3G system found this helpful and are feeling generous I would really really really like to get my hands on the 3G MMI on board manual. I need to either get the cd/dvd or a copy of it. I have to date the 2G and a 3G for the A5 but it only had German. I would really like to load the manual up on my MMI and hit a wall trying to find one on eBay. Any help would be appreciated.

[DavidB8]

**** A5 TESTED ****

ok so here is the news with regards to A5... as you guys know my car is an '08 A5 S-line... this does work in my car, but not quite the same.

values on my car were as follows: Byte 16 was the same 00001111 before the change and 01001111 (4F) after.
Brightness on 100% display is not full brightness however. It is still brighter when you open the doors.

I want to say brightness set to 100% is more like 75% of total brightness compared to door open levels.

Ok so your byte 16 is the same as mine then.

I would have to check my brightness as I think it was full but I didn't really look to hard. I guess the question is.. Are you happy with it?

Bigger question... Am I still getting beer? LOL j/k


Got this to work today on my 2G MMI. Not sure if I did it all correctly, but my footwell lights don't turn off and on when headlights are on Auto, they just stay on at all times even in daylight. Also, there seems to be an extra bright setting on the foot well lights that can't be activated through the MMI. I noticed when turning off the engine, the foot well lights get extra bright, more than I can get through the MMI setting.

I found mine worked the same way. But need to do more testing. As Alkivar mentioned as well the lights do seem to be brighter with the door open. I guess this makes a bit of sense since they are supposed to be Ambiance lights....

[tsn80]

Ok so your byte 16 is the same as mine then.

I would have to check my brightness as I think it was full but I didn't really look to hard. I guess the question is.. Are you happy with it?

Bigger question... Am I still getting beer? LOL j/k



I found mine worked the same way. But need to do more testing. As Alkivar mentioned as well the lights do seem to be brighter with the door open. I guess this makes a bit of sense since they are supposed to be Ambiance lights....

I'd like to get my footwell lights to that max brightness that happens when engine is turned off, it seems a bit weak the way it is now.
Were your ambient lights switching on and off when headlights were in Auto mode? I appreciate all your help, thanks.

[johnnythepie]

David, youre in the wrong job!!!Looks like i need to get a vag com!!

[rlarsen]

Rene have you come across anyone mentioning the module/s that change on the 3G after a menu items are enabled? If I know where to look I can run a full scan of the module before and after to discover what the adaptation code change needs to be but I'm not sure what module that information is stored in.
I would expect the change done in the hidden menu to be in [5F - Information Electr.]

If the logic is the same, then it should be in one of the Channels - like with 2G where you need to add some value to an excisting value.

[DavidB8]

David, youre in the wrong job!!!Looks like i need to get a vag com!!

Well this is why I was in Automotive electronic for almost 12 years before I hit my current carrier. Now I just wish I could get a job figuring out mods and car hacks.. I'd lend you my Vag-Com but the 6 week turn around would kill me [cool]


I would expect the change done in the hidden menu to be in [5F - Information Electr.]
If the logic is the same, then it should be in one of the Channels - like with 2G where you need to add some value to an excisting value.

5F.. Ok. I will run a full scan of the module then turn it off and run it again and see if I can find it. Unless someone beats me to it.

[rlarsen]

Your instructions advise to move the Interior Light selector from 0 to 1 (in Hidden Menu) which obviously works. But if you move it to 5 you then have the ability to alter the foot well lighting while in motion. I noticed that I wasn't able to this morning on my drive to work, took at a look at your instructions and only after viewing the screen shots did it dawn on me. Items set to "5" in hidden menu are items I'm able to adjust while driving so took the chance and it seems it works.

The other oddity that came up was that the foot well lighting setting changed to it's most darkest setting after the car has been sitting for a while. I'll report back as to if the "5" setting changed this as well.

P

As I understand the position of the slider - it just indicates the relative position in the MMI menu.

But I don't know - I can't test it my self.

[rlarsen]

5F.. Ok. I will run a full scan of the module then turn it off and run it again and see if I can find it. Unless someone beats me to it.

But I don't think you can get the values of all Channels under [Adaptation - 10] with a scan - only the coding under [Coding - 07] - or how is this done??

[DavidB8]

But I don't think you can get the values of all Channels under [Adaptation - 10] with a scan - only the coding under [Coding - 07] - or how is this done??

I'm not sure if thats the case. I know when I was trying to get another option enabled under the seat menu i changed the value on the slide to every number there. I noticed some numbers made the menu enabled and others left it greyed out. So I really don't know what all the settings on the slider does.


As I understand the position of the slider - it just indicates the relative position in the MMI menu.
But I don't know - I can't test it my self.

I wasn't sure if using the VAG label and adaptation scan that you do for new modules would find it. Could be another project all on its own.

If we could get the coding under number 7 why would we use 10 for any of the enabling? Thats one area of the vag com I'm a bit gray. I wonder if I called Ross-Tech if they would explain it to me.

[rlarsen]

One difference between the [Coding - 07] and [Adaptation - 10] is that it is only the coding under [Coding - 07] that will be set back to default if your dealer connect to Audi's SVM server.

I don't understand why an Auto Scan doesn't return ALL coding in the module in question - maybe it should only return a complete list if only one module is chosen??
If it is possible today, then I can see how to get the values under [Adaptation - 10]??

[DavidB8]

I just spent the last 30 mins on the phone with a lovely girl named Dana from Ross-Tech. She explained how to scan the adaption and measuring blocks for each of the modules and the fastest way for me to find the differences once I have both files. Wonderful woman with TONS of knowledge and information. It was nice to see they don't mind sharing what they know and how their software works to make life easier for us.

Did you know there is a glitch with the newer Audis and VW's that can prevent you from access module number 9 unless all of your doors are unlocked?

Anyways I am very positive I should be able to find the hard coding method to enable the Light menu item now.

[Cabal_san]

Hey, can you all help me to understand again what this mod does exactly?

Is it just to run around with your footwell lights on all the time when you're driving? Or can you manipulate the MMI to where you can turn on the footwells while driving?

Sorry I'm just not sure what this cool new enabled feature allows!!

thanks,

[DavidB8]

Hey, can you all help me to understand again what this mod does exactly?
Is it just to run around with your footwell lights on all the time when you're driving? Or can you manipulate the MMI to where you can turn on the footwells while driving?

This allows the foot lights to stay on all the time. You can control the brightness of them by the MMI. I believe someone said by changing the value of the MMI menu item to 5 instead of 1 you can control it while your driving but I don' t think there has been confirmation yet.

[DavidB8]

Hey, can you all help me to understand again what this mod does exactly?
Is it just to run around with your footwell lights on all the time when you're driving? Or can you manipulate the MMI to where you can turn on the footwells while driving?

This allows the foot lights to stay on all the time. You can control the brightness of them by the MMI. I believe someone said by changing the value of the MMI menu item to 5 instead of 1 you can control it while your driving but I don' t think there has been confirmation yet.

[CurbKiller]

Thats it.. I'm never releasing a mod again until I pull a tuner trick and test it for a month first [:/]




I didn't mean that as a negative what so ever!!!! Your efforts are greatly appreciated. It wasn't until after I was showing a co-worker your write up and him asking if I could change it on the fly did I put 2 and 2 together.

[NPuter]

Ok just changed the corresponding codes based on DavidB8 and rlarsen's posts...

It works as it should. My car is non-mmi radio btw...

Menu entry is "Background Lighting"
When not set to "dark" the lights stay on all the time, regardless of headlight status.. When set to the maximum level in the MMI, the lights are not at their true maximum (as reported in other posts).
I think the max setting available is perfect for me, and I like it how the lights get brighter when door open/ignition is turned off... IMO, the lights should not be set to their true maximum with their purpose being ambient lights...

All in all I have extremely happy!!!
Thanks DavidB8 for your awesome work! Also, thanks to rlarsen for giving out the correct code for non-mmi.

question - are the footwell lights actually LEDs? should we be worried about the life-span of the lights now that they will be on whenever the car is on?

[rlarsen]

They are LEDs on my A4 - with Lighting pack.

[DavidB8]

question - are the footwell lights actually LEDs? should we be worried about the life-span of the lights now that they will be on whenever the car is on?

Yes LED for sure, I took one apart and looked. Actually wondering if they are the same size as the one in the doors. There is no real bulb to speak of. It's a circuit board with 2 long prongs that plug directly into the cars harness. But there it a tiny LED there.


I didn't mean that as a negative what so ever!!!!

Just playin with ya [>_<]
So did you confirm 5 turns it on all the time?

[DavidB8]

Interesting note.. I am in the car right now scanning modules so I can try and find the coding to turn the menu on in the 3G MMI without the hidden menu. I did turn off the option in the Menu before I started my second round of scans but noticed looking down the lights are still on. So it appears they will turn on just with the Vag coding on 09. You just can't adjust them without the MMI.

[CurbKiller]

Yes, I confirmed that changing the setting to 5 in Hidden Menu allows you to change the settings in MMI while driving. It appears that the rest of the features that active in the Hidden Menu that are coded at 5 can be changed as well, while the one item coded to 1 can not. Makes sense?

[B8_Jim]

DavidB8, Rlarsen - thanks for the info!! I just enabled this on my MMI "low" - symphony - system. Cool little mod.

One little question though ** without the NAV system hidden menu how would I change the "1" to "5" so that this is avail while moving?

[Alkivar]

question - are the footwell lights actually LEDs? should we be worried about the life-span of the lights now that they will be on whenever the car is on?

yes the lights are LEDs... the Part Number for them in ETKA even identifies them as such.

Part number for anyone who cares is 4E0 947 415 for cars built pre 02/22/2010 and 4E0 947 415 A for those built after

[Alkivar]

David, can you pull one of your footwell light modules out and give me a top down, bottom up and side profile photo of it?
Because if its the same as the door light modules

1) I can identify it on sight
2) that would mean we can put in the RDash interior LED lights which are MUUUCH brighter (and come in 2 packs)

[DavidB8]

Still in my car... Trying to figure out where the coding is for the MMI. I found half of it and have now mapped about 5 Bytes of Module 5F. Not that it helps. Still looking.

Alkivar The lights are not identical as the harness plugs directly into the LED not a holder like the regular bulbs. I'll see if they will fit from the door before I call it a night though. It they fit physically then it's a small harness adapter to go to regular lights.. Will let you know

[DavidB8]

Well No matter what module I tried I could not find how to set the menu settings. I found half of it which was to enable the device but it would just leave it grayed out on the MMI. I have a suspision it's in a security locked adaptaion channel. Either 254 or 255 in module 09 Cent Elect. It makes some sense since there are bits in the long code to enable MMI items. Ross Tech lists one code but it doesn't unlock the last 2 channels. I'm not sure but I'd bet thats where the treasure is buried.

Now.. Alkivar, what is it exactly that you would like to do? Put the door lens in the dash or the LED dash light in the door? The do swap but plug configurations makes one way easier than the other. Let me know what your thoughts are and I'll tell you what I found out for plug part numbers and wires.

[Alkivar]

Now.. Alkivar, what is it exactly that you would like to do? Put the door lens in the dash or the LED dash light in the door? The do swap but plug configurations makes one way easier than the other. Let me know what your thoughts are and I'll tell you what I found out for plug part numbers and wires.

My goal was both actually as some people want LED lights for puddles but you already shot down the LED fixtures moving elsewhere... I double checked the Mod God thread and your photo shows the connector to be different

I just basically want a clearer view of the socket the LED footwell lighting uses to plug into the harness, as the RDash interior LED's have two different plug sizes. My other goal was to find out if its possible to work the RDash (MEGA SUPER ULTRA BRIGHT LED fixtures) into the footwells.

[Alkivar]

David just so you are aware I have now cross posted this to the A5OC board (A5/S5 Owners Club)...

[DavidB8]

My goal was both actually as some people want LED lights for puddles but you already shot down the LED fixtures moving elsewhere... I double checked the Mod God thread and your photo shows the connector to be different

I just basically want a clearer view of the socket the LED footwell lighting uses to plug into the harness, as the RDash interior LED's have two different plug sizes. My other goal was to find out if its possible to work the RDash (MEGA SUPER ULTRA BRIGHT LED fixtures) into the footwells.

I'll try and get picture for you but here is what I have for you right now.. I can not find a mating connector for the door light YET. But I could for the LED. So this means you can move a door light to the LED position. You would just need to order the female end to match the LED harness plug and the Male end that plugs into the light and make a harness to convert them. Make sense?

Ok so here is what I have so far:
To convert the LED harness to take a regular door light you need the lenses obviously and:

Female LED plug - 4E0 972 575
Matching wires - 000 979 012 E

Male Regular light plug - 893 971 632
Matching wires - 000 979 021 E

Basically that's all you need to build a conversion harness from the LED to Normal light. If your up for some heat shrink and solder then you can convert them pretty easy. But if your like me I hate cutting the factory wiring.

There is no real plug on the LED side. Not really, the prongs are part of the LED and they go directly into the harness. It's the light that the harness clips to though just like the regular lights.

Anyways I'm getting tired I think but that's a start. I was actually having the same thoughts you were in regards to moving lights around. I may have the required wires here in my spare harness. I'll try and work on it tomorrow night since I seem to have hit a dead end right no on the MMI thing with the lighting.

[DavidB8]

David just so you are aware I have now cross posted this to the A5OC board (A5/S5 Owners Club)...

Thats great. Good to get the word out. I've seen it in German and English now, and now 2 different models. Feels good to contribute. Anyone tell the S4 kids yet?

[rlarsen]

DavidB8, Rlarsen - thanks for the info!! I just enabled this on my MMI "low" - symphony - system. Cool little mod.

One little question though ** without the NAV system hidden menu how would I change the "1" to "5" so that this is avail while moving?
With your non-MMI system you wouldn't have the slider options, if you had access to a "hidden menu" - it is the 'old' 2G system [;)]

On my 2009 A4 with MMI high (2G) the Background Lighting menu is by default enabled so it can be adjusted while driving.

I can however in the "hidden menu" change that behavior, so it will be disabled. I can also enable all the other menu items which normally are disabled, but they still won't work while driving, because the unit in question won't allow it.

[jabicho]

I think this will collect the three system configurations....

MMI high (2G):

Enable the Interior lighting (extended) MMI item:
[07 - Control Head]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 1
add 2 to the existing value

MMI Plus (3G):

[5F - Information Electr.]
Not know yet how to enable the Interior lighting menu item with VCDS....

BUT can be enabled through the "hidden menu":
- select 'Interior Light' in 'car/cardevicelist'
- put 'Interior light' on 1 in 'car/carmenuoperations'

MMI basic (non-MMI - 2G) (symphony/concert radio):

[56 - Radio]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 8

Bit 7 - Interior Light Settings active - (1 = active)

Then enable the 'connection' between Cent. Elect and the Interior light MMI menu item (the same on all systems):

[09 – Cent. Elect.]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 16

Bit 6 - Set this bit manually to “1” - (1 = active)

If the menu item is still grayed out - then a restart of MMI is required now...

And how do you restart a MMI basic? Got no idea that´s possible

[rlarsen]

Will a normal Ignition OFF and then ON again not work - maybe you need to take the key out between OFF/ON??

[NPuter]

Will a normal Ignition OFF and then ON again not work - maybe you need to take the key out between OFF/ON??

i just turned the ignition on and off a couple of time - worked fine....

[Fichtel72]

Works perfect on my 2G MMI .. Thanks allot ..

If someone is interested by Pictures , i have some LED Cluster Replacements in my Car ... (Doors , Numberplate Light , like the BMW´s and in the Trunk) .. i hope Trunk is the right word .. were you put your baggages ..

[notjoefromnh]

Very nice!

[DavidB8]

Works perfect on my 2G MMI .. Thanks allot ..

If someone is interested by Pictures , i have some LED Cluster Replacements in my Car ... (Doors , Numberplate Light , like the BMW´s and in the Trunk) .. i hope Trunk is the right word .. were you put your baggages ..

Trunk is the correct word. We actually have a thread already going that everyone posts their LED lights into. A few people have done this now. It's a good mod.

[Fichtel72]

Here you can see some Pics .. http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/hypercolor-led-kennzeichenbeleuchtung-t2531305.html?page=11#post23510001

After i check t the Foot well lights in the dark , i recognized , that Entry s in my MMI Car Menu are "gone" .. Ambientebeleuchtung , Tire Pressure and so on .. but , quick step in the Hidden Menu , activate them again , reboot/restart MMI .. an voia la .. All Back again .. Test again , ignition off/on .. works well ..

[Regina_TT]

Excellent. Guys please report back on your successes.

Still can't beleive I figured this out. Guess Ross-Tech will just steal my work and integrate it in future releases :P

2009 Q5 3G MMI: Got it all set up in about a minute. Set to "5" rather than "1" in the hidden MMI menu and it works while the car is in motion. Thanks for the fun little mod!


Rene have you come across anyone mentioning the module/s that change on the 3G after a menu items are enabled? If I know where to look I can run a full scan of the module before and after to discover what the adaptation code change needs to be but I'm not sure what module that information is stored in.

SPECIAL REQUEST.....

If anyone in the ROW with a 3G system found this helpful and are feeling generous I would really really really like to get my hands on the 3G MMI on board manual. I need to either get the cd/dvd or a copy of it. I have to date the 2G and a 3G for the A5 but it only had German. I would really like to load the manual up on my MMI and hit a wall trying to find one on eBay. Any help would be appreciated.

I have an .ISO image of the handbook for the Q5. I've enabled the access in the MMI, but I can't get the information to install to the HDD from a disc. Have you had any luck setting this up at all yet?

[ddun]

I think this will collect the three system configurations....

MMI high (2G):

Enable the Interior lighting (extended) MMI item:
[07 - Control Head]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 1
add 2 to the existing value

Then enable the 'connection' between Cent. Elect and the Interior light MMI menu item (the same on all systems):

[09 – Cent. Elect.]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 16

Bit 6 - Set this bit manually to “1” - (1 = active)



I just followed youre steps and it is now active! but there were a few differences that may confuse others. I have an 09 2G MMI

I didn't have to do that first part with the adaptation, seems like it is the same thing as checking the box in the hidden menu. plus it wouldn't let me do it, not sure if you meant add a 2 at the end of the value or +2 to the existing value. I couldn't add a 2 at the end of the value anyway because its only allowed 5 characters. anyways so I changed nothing there. just checked the extended lighting box in the hidden MMI menu

then I went to that last part, and mine looked different, I had no check box like yours does with the front and rear footwell it was just blank. i just changed bit 6 to a 1 like you did on your 3g and it was done! cant wait for nightfall to check it out.

[DavidB8]

I just followed youre steps and it is now active! but there were a few differences that may confuse others. I have an 09 2G MMI

I didn't have to do that first part with the adaptation, seems like it is the same thing as checking the box in the hidden menu. plus it wouldn't let me do it, not sure if you meant add a 2 at the end of the value or +2 to the existing value. I couldn't add a 2 at the end of the value anyway because its only allowed 5 characters. anyways so I changed nothing there. just checked the extended lighting box in the hidden MMI menu

then I went to that last part, and mine looked different, I had no check box like yours does with the front and rear footwell it was just blank. i just changed bit 6 to a 1 like you did on your 3g and it was done! cant wait for nightfall to check it out.

You would add 2 to the existing value. So if it was 13 you would add 2 and make it 15. It is the same as checking the box.

You may not see the same thing I have on my screen depending on your version of software. I'm using the latest beta. At any rate changing the number manually which is how I did it anyways is the same as clicking a box. And the second last number on the left is bit 6.

Glad you got it working :)

[DavidB8]

2009 Q5 3G MMI:
I have an .ISO image of the handbook for the Q5. I've enabled the access in the MMI, but I can't get the information to install to the HDD from a disc. Have you had any luck setting this up at all yet?

Excellent so this has been confirmed for a few models now.

As far as the ISO goes no I haven't had any luck because no one will give me the damn thing [=(]

To load it though you should put it in the drive then click on the handbook button. It should load it after that. At least that's what I can tell so far. If you click the button before loading it will ask you to load the disk in.

[Regina_TT]

As far as the ISO goes no I haven't had any luck because no one will give me the damn thing [=(]

PM'd you.


To load it though you should put it in the drive then click on the handbook button. It should load it after that. At least that's what I can tell so far. If you click the button before loading it will ask you to load the disk in.

I tells me that the update cannot be found. I have tried burning the image to CD and DVD. I may try SD next. If anything it's a handy reference on my desktop.

[JSitthi]

I just followed youre steps and it is now active! but there were a few differences that may confuse others. I have an 09 2G MMI

I didn't have to do that first part with the adaptation, seems like it is the same thing as checking the box in the hidden menu. plus it wouldn't let me do it, not sure if you meant add a 2 at the end of the value or +2 to the existing value. I couldn't add a 2 at the end of the value anyway because its only allowed 5 characters. anyways so I changed nothing there. just checked the extended lighting box in the hidden MMI menu

then I went to that last part, and mine looked different, I had no check box like yours does with the front and rear footwell it was just blank. i just changed bit 6 to a 1 like you did on your 3g and it was done! cant wait for nightfall to check it out.

Are you saying that the VAG coding for the lights was unnecessary, and that Background lighting could be enabled through the hidden menu alone? If so, the hidden menu seems to have more potential than I first thought, might actually be worth it to find out what each option does in those menus!

[DavidB8]

Are you saying that the VAG coding for the lights was unnecessary, and that Background lighting could be enabled through the hidden menu alone? If so, the hidden menu seems to have more potential than I first thought, might actually be worth it to find out what each option does in those menus!

No you have to do the vag coding. What he is saying is that he didn't use the Vag-Coding to enable the hidden menu he did it manually. On the 2G you can do it either way.

With the 3G there are 2 items that must be enabled in the hidden menu to work but I have only found the Vag programing for one so far. The second I think is locked in a security setting yet to be broken.

[Fichtel72]

Yes , and Audi is working for a solution to prevent the "Coding/Moding Scene" ... They are not amused , that customer enable the extras for free , the should buy it .. But you US an CA Guy are Lucky , your A4 is not so expensive than "our" in Germany ... Nearly 50.0000 Euros , for the "little" Diesel Engine WITHOUT Quattro ...

But you know , the Germans are crazy enough to pay it "Cars .. the Germans "baby" ...

If my car goes to the service , i had every time make an notice on the papers , "Please do not connect the car with the Factory (Ingolstadt) ..and don´t recode something" .. because , they check t Online in the Database witch Config the car had , and what is set now. And it could be , that they reset the Codings to the defaults !. Than i told the Dealer , i tell you an example , a man will install on his A4 a Cruise Control , because he forget it to order direct. So you have also do some coding stuff that it worked. So Audi Ingolstadt or Neckasulm or any other factory , did´t have these Information in they Database .. Could it be , that they "Reset" my Cruise Control , at the next Service ! .. i think that is not allowed .. for example , if i order the car with black color and do a Paint job in white .. and replace the Rims .. if i go then to the service Audi will change it to the "Factory Default" ?! .. Never .. i hope ya understand what i write/want .

[rlarsen]

Yes , and Audi is working for a solution to prevent the "Coding/Moding Scene" ... They are not amused , that customer enable the extras for free , the should buy it ..

It is also fine with me, if Audi (or all VAGs) would prevent customers from doing the VCDS coding - BUT then I'll expect that ALL possible VCDS tweaks are available and known, and ALL dealers know how to do them, without the customer need to tell them how to.

[rlarsen]

I noticed today that the dimming setting is not stored permanently, until next time it is adjusted.

If you manually restart MMI - or have had the ignition switch OFF for some time, which also automatically reset MMI, the dimming setting is back on default - which is on minimum dimming - like the photo below.

http://audiforum.us/members/rlarsen-albums-diverse-picture583-2gmmi2.jpg

I don't know if there are differences between 2G, 3G and Radio??

Just for the reference my [09 - Cent. Elect.] module has the part # 8K0 907 063 D, and I have MMI high (2G)

[DavidB8]

I bet there is an adaptation channel to set a default. Kind of like radio volume.

Something else I was wondering about. If on the slider you choose 1 it allows changing the settings while sitting still. You choose 5 it allows you to change while driving. I wonder what happens on say 7? I noticed the AC has a 7 setting and so did something else. More stuff to play with.

I left a message on the VW Vortex Vag board trying to find out how to get into adaptation channels 254 and 255 for control modul 09. They seem to be locked and are the only channels I couldn't get into while looking for the MMI slider coding. Maybe play some more tonight. Sooner or later we will get this entire thing beat to death.

Side question for you. Can you use your high beams and fog lights at the same time or do they turn off in Europe like they do here in NA?

[rlarsen]

Side question for you. Can you use your high beams and fog lights at the same time or do they turn off in Europe like they do here in NA?

I actually don't know - but I'll try it tomorrow [:)]

[rlarsen]

I left a message on the VW Vortex Vag board trying to find out how to get into adaptation channels 254 and 255 for control modul 09. They seem to be locked and are the only channels I couldn't get into while looking for the MMI slider coding. Maybe play some more tonight. Sooner or later we will get this entire thing beat to death.

It is not possible to log in first using [Security Access - 16]??

[Fichtel72]

Fog Lights and Xenon High Beam is possible , without modification .. but our Law says its not allowed , but nobody cares ..

[ddun]

I noticed today that the dimming setting is not stored permanently, until next time it is adjusted.

If you manually restart MMI - or have had the ignition switch OFF for some time, which also automatically reset MMI, the dimming setting is back on default - which is on minimum dimming - like the photo below.

http://audiforum.us/members/rlarsen-albums-diverse-picture583-2gmmi2.jpg

I don't know if there are differences between 2G, 3G and Radio??

Just for the reference my [09 - Cent. Elect.] module has the part # 8K0 907 063 D, and I have MMI high (2G)

mine seem to save, but i have memory seat. everything is saved on my car by each memory setting. if i dont set my seat memory, it would roll back to its previous setting when i turn off the car. this pretty much goes for all my settings in MMI

[CurbKiller]

Must be a 3G thing but mine keeps resetting, or so it seems. I have memory seats and I too reset my memory thinking it would save it. I swear it was keeping the setting where I had it each time I started the car, even after it sat all night. Yet today it was back to it's min setting, again at lunch and once again today leaving work. I'm playing around with different scenarios but so far it appears it will reset with 3G - considering your 2G system is saving.

I'll report back if I figure something out.

P

[NPuter]

mine seams to save too.... That being said, I just leave it on the maximum setting...
P- non-mmi

[DavidB8]

It is not possible to log in first using [Security Access - 16]??

It only gains access to the first 253. 254 and 255 seem to need a different access code.

Makes me think they are hiding something in there... [:/]

[Ryan_T]

Just did this mod on my 2009 Non-Nav.

Worked perfectly. A little dim, but I suppose we don't want to light up the interior like a battlefield anyhow. I'd love to change those lights to red ones. I also just found out that there are lights over the door levers.

[ItsDubC]

Just did this mod on my 2009 Non-Nav.

Worked perfectly. A little dim, but I suppose we don't want to light up the interior like a battlefield anyhow. I'd love to change those lights to red ones. I also just found out that there are lights over the door levers.

Ya did it on my '09 non-Nav as well a few hrs ago. I didn't realize that there was no hidden menu. I tried holding down the CAR and SETUP buttons together three times before realizing that the "Background Lighting" option was already staring me right in the face lol

[Ryan_T]

Yea, I wishfully hoped that there is a Hidden Menu on 2G MMI Basic. Nothing.

Ah well. Screw it, I'll install a carputer sometime and make the 3G MMI look like a dinosaur. [;)]

Still figuring out who/what/how to make it look as OEM as possible, and actually functional while driving without being distracting.

[DavidB8]

There is a hidden menu for the 2G and 3G but both have to be enabled. As we are discovering the 2G has all the options are enabled already and you just need to activate them on the MMI through coding.

You can make the items appear through coding on the 3G but they are grayed out. I'm still working on that one although until VCDS gets going on the security codes I don't think an answer is going to be here anytime soon.

[foodplz]

fantastic mod. thanksssss!

[Alkivar]

try the security code generator from the VIM hack people... maybe that will let you get around it?

http://trick77.com/2009/07/18/enable-vim-tv-playback-vcds-vag-com-mmi/

[Ryan_T]

I just checked. It keeps the brightness setting. I was concerned if it may eat battery at all (probably not), but knowing I can keep it off if I want to is nice.

[naemcivic]

hey Ryan do you have a vag com?

[Ryan_T]

Yeah. You need?

[ddun]

mine seem to save, but i have memory seat. everything is saved on my car by each memory setting. if i dont set my seat memory, it would roll back to its previous setting when i turn off the car. this pretty much goes for all my settings in MMI

k just found out that if i set it the setting will stay until i go back into background lighting it will then reset it back to the brightest setting.

set it and forget it!

[naemcivic]

yes, I am in the scarborough/markham area. It's good to find a fellow B8 member who has one. I definitely need to come in contact with you Ryan.

[Wickedslider]

DavidB8 and Rlarsen:
Thank you both and others who contributed to make this mod easy. Tried it this past weekend. Success on the first try and even enabled the battery-meter while at it.
Downside is, I need to go save up for the aluminum RS6 pedals now.. The rubber pedals just don't look good, now they are illuminated.

[DavidB8]

DavidB8 and Rlarsen:
Thank you both and others who contributed to make this mod easy. Tried it this past weekend. Success on the first try and even enabled the battery-meter while at it.
Downside is, I need to go save up for the aluminum RS6 pedals now.. The rubber pedals just don't look good, now they are illuminated.

Congratulations. I have a semi DIY for the pedals listed as well :)

Do yourself a favor and shop around on eBay for the pedals. You can save a lot of money.

[Superduke]

How could I check wich version of MMi I have? I got no 3d buildings or birdview.

[rlarsen]

How could I check wich version of MMi I have? I got no 3d buildings or birdview.

I think you have a MY2010 - right??

If you have a joystick on the big wheel, and a 7" color MMI screen you have MMI Plus (3G) - otherwise you'll have the 'old' MMI 2G with a smaller color screen.

You should however have a 3D view (birdview) option with the 'old' MMI 2G DVD navigation

[awhk82]

I think you have a MY2010 - right??

If you have a joystick on the big wheel, and a 7" color MMI screen you have MMI Plus (3G) - otherwise you'll have the 'old' MMI 2G with a smaller color screen.

You should however have a 3D view (birdview) option with the 'old' MMI 2G DVD navigation

Actually there are 2 versions of MMI 3G for 2010 - MMI Navi (with DVD navigation disc, 6.5" color screen, MMI knob without joystick) and MMI Navi Plus (HDD navigation, 7" high resolution screen, MMI joystick). I believe as long as the radio unit has 2 SD card slots, the MMI is considered as 3G.

BTW, I have the Ambient Lighting (Background Lighting as called in my Symphony III) working in my A4. No radio reset needed. Thanks David and rlarsen again for this!!!

[rlarsen]

Actually there are 2 versions of MMI 3G for 2010 - MMI Navi (with DVD navigation disc, 6.5" color screen, MMI knob without joystick) and MMI Navi Plus (HDD navigation, 7" high resolution screen, MMI joystick). I believe as long as the radio unit has 2 SD card slots, the MMI is considered as 3G.

BTW, I have the Ambient Lighting (Background Lighting as called in my Symphony III) working in my A4. No radio reset needed. Thanks David and rlarsen again for this!!!

Which is the 'old' MMI high (2G) - just with a smaller screen compered to the MMI high (2G) from pre-MY2010 [;)]

[awhk82]

Which is the 'old' MMI high (2G) - just with a smaller screen compered to the MMI high (2G) from pre-MY2010 [;)]

Really? So if I have the MMI Navi (not plus), I can, in theory, do those VIM as per the MMI 2G? Sorry about my curiosity as I am still wondering which navigation my car comes with in a month time. Thanks again for letting me know.

[Superduke]

I think you have a MY2010 - right??

If you have a joystick on the big wheel, and a 7" color MMI screen you have MMI Plus (3G) - otherwise you'll have the 'old' MMI 2G with a smaller color screen.

You should however have a 3D view (birdview) option with the 'old' MMI 2G DVD navigation

Yep MY 2010. Without "joysticky" so it should be MMi 2G. But I have a Navteq cd or dvd what says mmi 3g... I don't have a HDD or 7" screen. I do have 2 SD slots and the 6,5" colour screen. I can't get a birdview! The only view I get is from right above. I could choose between North or the way I drive.

[rlarsen]

Yep MY 2010. Without "joysticky" so it should be MMi 2G. But I have a Navteq cd or dvd what says mmi 3g... I don't have a HDD or 7" screen. I do have 2 SD slots and the 6,5" colour screen. I can't get a birdview! The only view I get is from right above. I could choose between North or the way I drive.

Huummm!

Then maybe it is because you have a new 3G Map DVD??

I have the 2G Nav DVD, and this one installs the Map software, first time the DVD is loaded, with this software you get in "Navigation->Setup->Map type" the option "Current position 3D".

The Nav system should be the same as the old MMI high (2G) - but then again maybe the Map software isn't.

Do you have the DVD box in the trunk (left side behind a cover), or is it as the MMI Plus (3G) in the middle console??

[rlarsen]

Really? So if I have the MMI Navi (not plus), I can, in theory, do those VIM as per the MMI 2G? Sorry about my curiosity as I am still wondering which navigation my car comes with in a month time. Thanks again for letting me know.

I would say - Yes!

Edit: But it would be nice if someone could confirm it...

[Superduke]

Boys: thnx!! My first vagcomming is history!! I did this DIY, great!! I only have to change the adaption in the first mmi menu not 1 but 5. Then it came in Car menu and it light up!! Awesome!!

[scottyuk]

I'm a bit late to this thread but I've just done it.

My UK spec 2010 with 3G Nav worked fine but I only get about 50% brightness even at max.

I'd like it a fraction brighter but it's nice as it is. Good job guys.

[Alkivar]

scotty... yeah thats exactly the issue I ran into in my A5... i'm looking into alternatives for the LED light modules that are in the footwells to maybe replace them with something brighter.

[tsn80]

scotty... yeah thats exactly the issue I ran into in my A5... i'm looking into alternatives for the LED light modules that are in the footwells to maybe replace them with something brighter.

Let us know if you find a good and bright replacement footwell bulb, mine's only at half brightness when the ignition is on.

[NPuter]

I find mine to be plenty bright at the maximum level for background lights - I would say they are around 80% of their capacity...

[Ryan_T]

I think that our footwell lights SHOULDN'T be on. All it does is show people your dirty mats and shoes. The A8 lights are awesome cause most of the lights are above waist level and flatters everyone - like a good lounge/nightclub. THe footwell lights, useless.

[DavidB8]

I noticed the footwell lights at about 50% when the MMI portion isn't active. Not sure if this is the reason why some aren't brighter. Just a thought.

Getting more light requires you to buy some door puddle lights and buy some plug ends to convert it to the same as the LEDs. Can be done.

[naemcivic]

I think that our footwell lights SHOULDN'T be on. All it does is show people your dirty mats and shoes. The A8 lights are awesome cause most of the lights are above waist level and flatters everyone - like a good lounge/nightclub. THe footwell lights, useless.

+1
I remember you telling me this in person also, when you did the modification for me. Ryan is cool, so +rep for you!

[Alkivar]

I think that our footwell lights SHOULDN'T be on. All it does is show people your dirty mats and shoes. The A8 lights are awesome cause most of the lights are above waist level and flatters everyone - like a good lounge/nightclub. THe footwell lights, useless.

its not something I intend to keep on full time... but having the option to enable me to find shit dropped on the floor without opening doors or using a flashlight is nice.

[Ryan_T]

That's what I use it for too. It's off, unless I need em.

[scottyuk]

All it does is show people your dirty mats and shoes.

Not in my car. That's simply not allowed [;)]

[Ryan_T]

Impossible to avoid up here with all the salt. I'm going to do a full interior clean-up once spring is officially here.

[hender]

even with my giant-ass made-from-old-tire-michelen-mats (they weigh like 5lbs a piece) the salt is still finding its way to stain the stitching on my summer mats.

[Nght&Day-B8]

Now you need to get into the secret menu in the MMI. To do this hold down the Car and Setup button for approx 6 seconds and the menu should appear on the screen. If you keep jumping to the setup menu for the car after a couple of attempts get the vag com out and re-do the coding EVEN if the coding looks right. Erase it to 0 and change it to 1 again. I have to do this on mine from time to time for no apparent reason. Even though the coding is right it stops responding.

This is NOT playtime. Change only what I show you to.

Ok so hold down the buttons...

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0309-1.jpg

Once the menu comes up scroll to Car and select it by pushing down on the scroll wheel.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0311.jpg

Scroll to “carmenuoperation” and select with the scroll wheel.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0313.jpg

Scroll to interior light and select it with the scroll wheel. It will be set to 0 you will change it to 1 then push the scroll wheel to set it.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0314.jpg

Now hit return which will take you back to the previous menu. Select “cardevicelist” this time.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0315.jpg

Now scroll to “Interior Light” and push to select. The box should go from empty to filled in.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0316.jpg

Now hit return to go back in fact hit return to go all the way back we are done in here now.

Now you have to reset the MMI. This is done by pushing down the Setup – Scroll Wheel and top right menu buttons at the same time.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0317.jpg

Hold them down for a second or two then release. The MMI should go black then restart. You should see your splash screen which will NOT look like this hehehe

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0318.jpg

Thanks to JSitthi for the settings in the 2G hidden menu.
"Under DIAG SETTINGS -> APK 0x01, 0x0B, 0x0C -> Interior lighting (extended), you'll want to select that option and it will turn from an empty box to a checked box.
Reboot the MMI and under CAR you will see the option "Background Lighting"."
[B]




Just to clear something up, does this last step have to be done for Basic mmi systems?

[ItsDubC]

Just to clear something up, does this last step have to be done for Basic mmi systems?

No, I tried holding down the CAR and SETUP buttons together a few times on my non-Nav '09 so I could get into the hidden menu and enable the background lighting option in my CAR menu, only to realize that the option was already there staring me in the face. Total facepalm moment.

[DavidB8]

Yeah no hidden menu needed for 2G and non nav. Just follow the instruction provided for the specific system.

[Nght&Day-B8]

Thanks guys!! I'll post back later in the day to say if it worked!

[ItsDubC]

Thanks guys!! I'll post back later in the day to say if it worked!

It works on meteor gray A4s. Not so sure about ibis [:)]

[Nght&Day-B8]

HAHAHA!! Hey im sure we can share, after all i saved you a slice of pizza.. you saving me a slice of your guys stuff?? Boy do i miss it [:(] LOL.

DubC i gotta tell you, both colors look great but i miss the M.G because it never looked dirty! Plus cleaning was so easy.. im so anal about how i keep my cars clean and this thing is nasty atleast 4-5 days after wash (with nice miami weather) so im jealous! [>_<] I know what color to get my 911 though (when the day comes) [;)]

[DavidB8]

It works on meteor gray A4s. Not so sure about ibis [:)]

LOL like I said trouble..

[Nght&Day-B8]

HELP!! I got "background lighting" to come up on my screen but its grey. And when i do the 2nd step of the coding byte 16 is empty and doesnt show anything so i dont see where bit 6 is

[rlarsen]

HELP!! I got "background lighting" to come up on my screen but its grey. And when i do the 2nd step of the coding byte 16 is empty and doesnt show anything so i dont see where bit 6 is

You need to change the bit manually as David has showed - after the bit is changed, move the focus away from the Binary field with the Tab key.

Before:
http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0294.jpg

After:
http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy205/DavidB8/IMG_0296.jpg

[Nght&Day-B8]

Thanks for the help! I already got it by paying more attention to the first post i just forgot to update it here. All is well though it seems to be working great i just gotta wait till night time to see it good

[altecdell]

I got this mod working on my B8 S4 with MMI 3G Nav. Did the hidden menu change and VAGCOM on Byte 16. Ambiance lighting now works. Only problem is now my steering wheel controls no longer work! Somewhere somehow I disabled my steering wheel functionality! Please help

[DavidB8]

Well since it's impossible to help you without you at least posting your coding here is what you need to help yourself.

Goto c:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Debug\

In that directory you will find two files, one with adaption changes and one with coding changes.

open those files and you'll find your original coding and what you changed. Find your mistake and put it back, or copy the coding and paste it into VCDS and then just recode the lighting being careful not to change something else.

[altecdell]

Well since it's impossible to help you without you at least posting your coding here is what you need to help yourself.

Goto c:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Debug\

In that directory you will find two files, one with adaption changes and one with coding changes.

open those files and you'll find your original coding and what you changed. Find your mistake and put it back, or copy the coding and paste it into VCDS and then just recode the lighting being careful not to change something else.

Does this help?

Chassis Type: 8T0
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 36 3C 42 46 47 52 53 55
56 5F 62 6C 72

VIN: WAUFGCFL9AA040420 Mileage: 8990km/5586miles

01-Engine ** Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans ** Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes ** Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle ** Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. ** Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC ** Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. ** Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist ** Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags ** Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel ** Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments ** Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway ** Status: OK 0000
22-AWD ** Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr ** Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change ** Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver ** Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. ** Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System ** Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. ** Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake ** Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range ** Status: OK 0000
56-Radio ** Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. ** Status: OK 0000
62-Door,Rear Left ** Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. ** Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right ** Status: OK 0000

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 01: Engine (J623-CCBA) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8K0 907 551 A HW: 8K0 907 551 A
Component: 3.0T SIMOS84 H06 0001
Revision: ********
Coding: 0104000A240F0128
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551A A01002
ROD: N/A

No ASAM data available for this controller:"EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551A" .

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8K0 927 156 M HW: 0B5 927 156 E
Component: 0B5 30TFSINAR H03 0007
Revision: --H03-** Serial number: 0000000038
Coding: 000001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501 A02044
ROD: EV_TCMDL501.rod

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 AN HW: 8K0 907 379 AN
Component: ESP8 quattro H04 0100
Revision: ******** Serial number: **************
Coding: 29050A
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
Component: BCM2 1.1 H02 0321
Revision: 00002001
Coding: 0D0100
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D HW: 8K0 905 852 D
Component: J764 ELV MLB H37 0042

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0171
Revision: C1000000 Serial number: 01220720091230
Coding: 66102000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P HW: 8K0 907 063 P
Component: BCM1 1.0 H25 0380
Revision: 10025001 Serial number: 00000000429089
Coding: 26001016463CAF212700080300003D0D0F9CD3480001016100 0000
Shop #: WSC 93168 999 92090

Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A HW: 8T1 955 119
Component: WWS 200709 H06 0070
Coding: 00FD11

Part No SW: 8K0 955 559 HW: 8K0 955 559
Component: RLS H04 0003
Coding: 025028

Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AL HW: 8K0 941 531 AL
Component: E1 - LDS H08 0090

Part No SW: 8K0 907 410 B HW: 8K0 907 410 B
Component: HOMELINK H01 0010

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 8K0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 H HW: 8K0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 4K H06 0050
Revision: 11001001 Serial number: 39940920200585
Coding: 20010D
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 H HW: 8K0 959 655 H
Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H37 0520
Serial number: 003EGD0289S7
Coding: 30453635423030303030554A304C384B3053
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
ROD: N/A

No ASAM data available for this controller:"EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010" .

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 G HW: 8K0 953 568 G
Component: Lenks.Modul H16 0014
Revision: ******** Serial number: 90304IGB00092
Coding: 000036
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

Component: E221 - MFL H02 0003

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 920 930 F HW: 8K0 920 930 F
Component: KOMBIINSTR. H04 0253
Revision: 00100000 Serial number: BXY50ED79
Coding: 830F09008A000008020000
Shop #: WSC 93168 999 92090

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AA HW: 8T0 907 468 L
Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0101
Revision: FB800054 Serial number: 5400F0961683CF
Coding: 00C303
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 22: AWD (J492) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8K0 907 163 HW: 8K0 907 163
Component: 4 Wheel Drive H09 0004
Serial number: 001906090001005
ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN 003007
ROD: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN.rod

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8K0 959 760 D HW: 8K0 959 760 D
Component: MEM-FS H06 0073
Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00001001292786
Coding: 00581B00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 3C: Lane Change Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 8K0 907 566 H HW: 4L0 907 566 B
Component: J0769_SWA_MasterH01 0010
Revision: 00H01000 Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-82
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

Part No: 8K0 907 568 H
Component: J0770_SWA_Slave_H01 0010

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 H HW: 8K0 959 793 D
Component: TSG FA H11 0306
Revision: Serial number: 0000009091437
Coding: 011C13204E00410001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
Component: BCM2 1.1 H02 0321
Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0119914834
Coding: 0106063A007A440500B0010000000000
Shop #: WSC 93168 999 92090

Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 HW: 8K0 959 719
Component: GTO BF H06 0050

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H03 1301

Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 A HW: 8K0 959 591
Component: J245 PS037 H06 0041

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AK HW: 8T0 035 223 AK
Component: DSP Prem H08 0170
Revision: 00008001 Serial number: 34881004829903

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 H HW: 8K0 959 792 D
Component: TSG BF H11 0306
Revision: Serial number: 0000009105866
Coding: 011C13204E00410001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 53: Parking Brake (J540) Labels: 8K0-907-801.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H HW: 8K0 907 801 H
Component: EPB Audi B8 H09 0090
Revision: 00000003 Serial number: 00000000415657
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8T0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 8H0 907 357 A HW: 8H0 907 357
Component: AFS 1 H01 0020
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000019
Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000

Part No: 8K0 941 329
Component: AFS-Modul links H02 S001

Part No: 8K0 941 329
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 S001

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 56: Radio (R) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F0 035 082 A HW: 4F0 035 082
Component: Radio U SIRIU H45 0021
Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 335GM097522202
Coding: 020000010000000001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8T1 035 664 A HW: 8T1 035 664 A
Component: H-BN-NA H41 0042
Revision: ******** Serial number: 490GW097512607
Coding: 01020000020681EF55000A0E000000030000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 62: Door,Rear Left (J388) Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C HW: 8K0 959 795 C
Component: TSG HL H10 0306
Revision: Serial number: 0000101558559
Coding: 010C13204000210001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 4L0-910-441.lbl
Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C HW: 4L0 907 441 B
Component: J772__Rearview 0040
Revision: --H03-** Serial number: 525PA8-J95902Q
Coding: 1000006
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

************************************************** ****************************-
Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C HW: 8K0 959 795 C
Component: TSG HR H10 0306
Revision: Serial number: 0000101558562
Coding: 010C13204000210001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

No fault code found.

End ************************************************** ******************-

[DavidB8]

You really should look in the file directory I posted to find your original coding. I can't make sense of some of the items since you seem to have more options than I do even though I have the premium. You can start by changing Byte 16 on module 9 from 0F to 43. Hard to believe you have the lighting working with the coding you have. Try that to start with and see what happens.

But once again If I was you I would go into the file get your original coding and recode module to 9 to what ever it was before you started. Then go to byte 16 and change it to 43.

[altecdell]

You really should look in the file directory I posted to find your original coding. I can't make sense of some of the items since you seem to have more options than I do even though I have the premium. You can start by changing Byte 16 on module 9 from 0F to 43. Hard to believe you have the lighting working with the coding you have. Try that to start with and see what happens.

But once again If I was you I would go into the file get your original coding and recode module to 9 to what ever it was before you started. Then go to byte 16 and change it to 43.

Tried all that. No luck. I can't even access Voice Control and Telephone within VCDS. Says Controller not found. I seriously think it's something in the hidden menu that could have caused it? I can still access 16-Steering Wheel within VCDS and it still has the correct codings there.

[DavidB8]

There is a steering wheel controls installed option in one of the controllers if I remember correctly but I don't recall which one. Can you email me your 2 log files from the debug directory? You can email me at [email protected]

There should be 2 files there not including the read me. Maybe I can see something there.

[altecdell]

Thanks for the prompt replies DavidB8. I've emailed you

[DavidB8]

I don't recall there being a telephone module being available. I believe the real Telephone modules are ROW options for phone prep with sim card access not one that is available in North America.

Can you go back to your module 16 and confirm that multifunction steering wheel is selected? That's the first thing to look at.

If it is, uncheck it save then reselect it. Just in case...

[Alkivar]

David just to let you know there is a user attempting this mod on his Q5 posting over on the A5OC ... once I have confirmation that it works that's another model we can list as verified working.

[altecdell]

I don't recall there being a telephone module being available. I believe the real Telephone modules are ROW options for phone prep with sim card access not one that is available in North America.

Can you go back to your module 16 and confirm that multifunction steering wheel is selected? That's the first thing to look at.

If it is, uncheck it save then reselect it. Just in case...

Yes I've tried that. Multifunction is selected. Think I have a date with the dealer to have them reset everything!

[JadedTothy]

Alright, so I enabled it via VAGCOM and did both of the mods in the hidden menu. When the value was set to 1 in the hidden menu, the "Ambiance Lighting" on my B8 is grayed out while stationary and while moving is highlighted. When I go into it while moving it says that this is only adjustable at a stop. I then went in and changed the value to 5 in the hidden menu, reset the MMI 3G, and it's the same. I am unable to adjust it at all.

Anybody else have this problem or know how to fix it?

[Alkivar]

Q5 compatibility confirmed!

http://www.myaudiq5.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=263&p=2759&hilit=ambience#p2749

[DavidB8]

Alright, so I enabled it via VAGCOM and did both of the mods in the hidden menu. When the value was set to 1 in the hidden menu, the "Ambiance Lighting" on my B8 is grayed out while stationary and while moving is highlighted. When I go into it while moving it says that this is only adjustable at a stop. I then went in and changed the value to 5 in the hidden menu, reset the MMI 3G, and it's the same. I am unable to adjust it at all.

Anybody else have this problem or know how to fix it?

Did you do the coding in the control module as well or just the hidden menu. The menu will not enable until all the coding is done.

[JadedTothy]

I believe we did all of the coding. I had a couple guys come over to my house one Saturday and we were messing around with all of the cars.

[DavidB8]

You may need to confirm that. The lights wont be adjustable and work unless the other coding was done. It's the only thing that makes sense as to why yours isn't working.

[ItsDubC]

I just ran an entire system scan last night (the 1st time since doing this mod), and found a fault code in 09 - Cent. Elect:

1 Fault Found:
03187 - Rear Footwell Lights
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 9

Interestingly enough, my rear footwell lights work fine when I open the door. Has anyone else seen this? I'm trying to figure out if I did the mod wrong or if it's a hardware issue.

TIA

[ChrisMT79]

Alright, so I enabled it via VAGCOM and did both of the mods in the hidden menu. When the value was set to 1 in the hidden menu, the "Ambiance Lighting" on my B8 is grayed out while stationary and while moving is highlighted. When I go into it while moving it says that this is only adjustable at a stop. I then went in and changed the value to 5 in the hidden menu, reset the MMI 3G, and it's the same. I am unable to adjust it at all.

Anybody else have this problem or know how to fix it?

Mine does this as well. And my coding is correct. For some reason I have to reset my coding to get it to work again.

[ItsDubC]

I just ran an entire system scan last night (the 1st time since doing this mod), and found a fault code in 09 - Cent. Elect:

1 Fault Found:
03187 - Rear Footwell Lights
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 9

Interestingly enough, my rear footwell lights work fine when I open the door. Has anyone else seen this? I'm trying to figure out if I did the mod wrong or if it's a hardware issue.

TIA

Forgot to mention, this is on MMI-low.

[DavidB8]

Double check your coding where the footlights are selected. There are like 4 different foot well light selections and you only need 2. If you select the wrong one it will throw an error. Sorry not in my car so I can't look it up specifically but take a quick peek and if you can't see it I'll check the coding for you later. Chances are that's the issue as I managed to get the same error through my travels. I think there where 4-6 bits on the same byte that represented foot well lighting and I was guessing it was for different models or bulb types. Unfortunately the label files don't cover everything properly.

[ItsDubC]

^Appreciate the heads-up, David. I know I was fiddling w/ it a bit while I was doing the mod cuz I didn't realize that the option was already in my MMI, so I may have selected one too many checkboxes. I'll take a look and report back if I'm able to fix it just so others don't make the same mistake. Thanks again sir!

[DavidB8]

No problem, let me know if you can figure it out. It wouldn't take much for me to get the correct bits for you if you need them.

[Smeghead]

Just got my cable the other day and did this, amongst a bunch of others, today. Thanks for the write-ups. I've owned VAG cars since 1998 and never delved into vag-com before--this could be fun. Thanks again for putting in the work to figure this crap out.

[RikP]

Is it possible i don't have any lights at all at my foots? :)

[DavidB8]

Is it possible i don't have any lights at all at my foots? :)

Possible. If there was a lighting package option then you may not have them. They are standard in North America.

[ItsDubC]

Can someone w/ MMI-low who has this mod working post their coding for 09 - Cent. Elect? As stated above, mine is 01101100 and it's erroneous. I believe the 6th bit (ie 2nd from the left) is the one that governs whether ambiance lighting is enabled or not in this module. Mine is set to 1, which is why it works, but I think the fault I'm getting is due to one of the other bits being wrong. I checked my coding last night and wasn't able to figure it out. TIA

[DavidB8]

Can someone w/ MMI-low who has this mod working post their coding for 09 - Cent. Elect? As stated above, mine is 01101100 and it's erroneous. I believe the 6th bit (ie 2nd from the left) is the one that governs whether ambiance lighting is enabled or not in this module. Mine is set to 1, which is why it works, but I think the fault I'm getting is due to one of the other bits being wrong. I checked my coding last night and wasn't able to figure it out. TIA

Assuming your talking about Byte 16.
Try this 0100011

That should fix you up.

[ItsDubC]

^Ya I couldn't remember which byte that was for. Anyway, thx again David. I'll give it a shot and see what happens.

O also I tried setting my MMI startup screen to an RS model just for kicks and it wouldn't take it (I know you have this mod). Same for an S model. I just thought it was funny, kinda like VAG-COM telling me, "You have MMI-low, so you can't possibly have an RS. Stop trying to be a poser." [>_<]

[DavidB8]

LOL, yeah the splash screen is flaky at best. I tried a different logo screen once and it took me like 5 tries to get the RS one back. You also have to select change screen based on model or something like that. I just the screen was cute. I'm not kidding anyone.. I don't make RS money :)

Well of the bits you have selected I have logged as WILL THROW A CODE. So I'm pretty sure that should fix you up. Bits 0-3 are for selecting foot lighting. Mine is the first 2. I'm not sure what the 2nd 2 are for, I had suspicions of bulb vs LED or maybe model. So if bit 0 and 1 don't work switch to 2-3 but I don't think you'll need to.

This is what I have from my own custom label file for byte 16:

LC,16,0,Footwell Lights Front installed
LC,16,1,Footwell Lights Rear installed
LC,16,2,Footwell Lights Front - Probably for Bulb not LED? -David Cochlin
LC,16,3,Footwell Lights Rear - Probably for Bulb not LED? -David Cochlin
LC,16,4,
LC,16,5,Rear Footwell Lights (causes error) - David Cochlin
LC,16,6,Ambiance Lighting Installed - David Cochlin
LC,16,7,

[ItsDubC]

Haha ya, at least w/ the RS bootup screen, I can pretend [:)] O ya, I just noticed something. You said to try 0100011, but that's only 7 bits. Did you mean 00100011 or 01000110?

[rlarsen]

My coding was

Old: 0000 1111 (hex 0F)
New: 0100 1111 (hex 4F)

and I have LEDs front and rear

[DavidB8]

I didn't need all 4 for mine to work just 0 and 1. Not sure what 2 and 3 does.

Rene's will work without code though. Mine worked both ways so I left the 2nd set unchecked.

[rlarsen]

My four 1's (bit 0 to bit 3) are the factory setting, but I don't know either what they do.

[ItsDubC]

Interesting, I'll try 0100 0011 and see what happens. Isn't it odd that my footwell lights work fine w/ my bits 0 to 3 being 1100 if indeed 2 and 3 are for bulbs?

[DavidB8]

I think Rene may be right about the last 4 being active. I think I sortta kindda remember something like that. But I do know I`m running only 2 now but makes me think I should go back to 4 the next time I`m in the car. At any rate you can see what I posted above as to what is causing your error. And the notes beside the coding is just notes I was making while searching and playing they aren`t based on anything but guessing at the time.

Gotta love Free Airport WiFi.

[Womble]

This may be a real stupid question but having only had my B8 A4 S line for 4 days now, where exaclty are all the footwell and door lights?? Is there wiring there and you just plug the lights in??. There isnt any settings on the DIS for ambience lighting.

[ItsDubC]

This may be a real stupid question but having only had my B8 A4 S line for 4 days now, where exaclty are all the footwell and door lights?? Is there wiring there and you just plug the lights in??. There isnt any settings on the DIS for ambience lighting.

When you open a door, do you see lights come on under the dash to see the front mats as well as under the front seats to illuminate the rear floor? If so, those are the footwell lights.

[Womble]

I dont have any. Only the interior lights above your head. There seems to be a few holes in the trim up under the dash but which ones are for ambience lights I dont know. Same for the rears, I take it there is mounting holes in the bottom of the seats.

[ItsDubC]

Is it possible i don't have any lights at all at my foots? :)

Womble, it looks like you and RikP did not have them unfortunately. Makes me wonder why Audi has chosen not to standardize this and how their market research leads to selecting which markets get it and which do not.

[ASU Daniel]

DubC are yours working?

NPuter- how are yours?

I havent tried this on my non MMI or MMI basic (whatever its called) 09 p-

[ItsDubC]

Mine work fine, it's just that I'm throwing a fault code. When I was doing the mod, I didn't realize that the option was already in my CAR menu and I had flipped some bits that I wasn't supposed to. I'm gonna try to fix it in a bit tho.

[ItsDubC]

K, just got done fiddling w/ Byte 16 in Cent Elect. David is right, both 0100 0011 and 0100 1111 work w/out throwing any fault codes. I ended up keeping mine at 0100 1111 like Rene has it, and I'm now error-free w/ the mod working [:)] Thx guys.

[Smeghead]

K, just got done fiddling w/ Byte 16 in Cent Elect. David is right, both 0100 0011 and 0100 1111 work w/out throwing any fault codes. I ended up keeping mine at 0100 1111 like Rene has it, and I'm now error-free w/ the mod working [:)] Thx guys.

Same for my 2010 Premium

[NPuter]

DubC are yours working?

NPuter- how are yours?

I havent tried this on my non MMI or MMI basic (whatever its called) 09 p-

yep - mine work great!

I am extremely surprised the the footwell lights are not standard in all markets...

[DavidB8]

Its not easy being right all the time.. the pressures... hehe

Womble, go to Audi-Sport.net and check out their forums. A few guys over there have installed the lighting after the fact. Strange that such a simple feature is the only one they threw us here in NA.

[Blake P]

I recently noticed that the brightness is set to the max value by default. I adjusted it to the middle through MMI, but each time I turn the car off, it resets back to the max value. Is this normal?

[rlarsen]

I recently noticed that the brightness is set to the max value by default. I adjusted it to the middle through MMI, but each time I turn the car off, it resets back to the max value. Is this normal?

It is not reset back to default after a restart of MMI [;)]

If you go into the MMI menu it will automatically be set to default again (full brightness) - BUT only if you go into the menu. I have the same "feature" on my A4 with MMI high 2G

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?346857-DIY-Ambiance-Lighting-%28Full-time-adjustable-foot-lighting%29&p=4976008&viewfull=1#post4976008

[Blake P]

It is not reset back to default after a restart of MMI [;)]

If you go into the MMI menu it will automatically be set to default again (full brightness) - BUT only if you go into the menu. I have the same "feature" on my A4 with MMI high 2G

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?346857-DIY-Ambiance-Lighting-%28Full-time-adjustable-foot-lighting%29&p=4976008&viewfull=1#post4976008

Ah, good to know. I'll try and verify tonight if I think of it.

[Tone-Dogg]

Ok just changed the corresponding codes based on DavidB8 and rlarsen's posts...

It works as it should. My car is non-mmi radio btw...

Menu entry is "Background Lighting"
When not set to "dark" the lights stay on all the time, regardless of headlight status.. When set to the maximum level in the MMI, the lights are not at their true maximum (as reported in other posts).
I think the max setting available is perfect for me, and I like it how the lights get brighter when door open/ignition is turned off... IMO, the lights should not be set to their true maximum with their purpose being ambient lights...

All in all I have extremely happy!!!
Thanks DavidB8 for your awesome work! Also, thanks to rlarsen for giving out the correct code for non-mmi.

question - are the footwell lights actually LEDs? should we be worried about the life-span of the lights now that they will be on whenever the car is on?

I want to thank you, rlarsen, and DavidB8 for helping me get this mod done effectively. For the other NONmmi people, coding is 0100 1111 Thank you again.

[rlarsen]

I want to thank you, rlarsen, and DavidB8 for helping me get this mod done effectively. For the other NONmmi people, coding is 0100 1111 Thank you again.

It is the same for Nav (MMI) cars too [;)] It is only how you enable the menu, that is different from MMI2G, MMI3G and non-MMI.

[Tone-Dogg]

^Thanks again, really enjoying the new lighting in the footwells...

[ed@mtl]

values on my car were as follows: Byte 16 was the same 00001111 before the change and 01001111 (4F) after.


Thank you!! Didn't quite understand the steps until seeing your post.

Worked on a 2010 Q5 MMI basic (non-MMI - 2G) (symphony/concert radio). I already had the "Background lighting" meun but it was Grey out, meaning I couldn't select it. Using Vagcom 908.

Steps to make it work:
[56 - Radio]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 8
Bit 7 - Interior Light Settings active - (1 = active)

[09 – Cent. Elect.]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 16
Bit 6 - Set this bit manually to “1” - (1 = active) This was the part I didn't understand. I had to change the binary numbers from 00001111 to 01001111.

From there, I was able to select "Background lighting" menu and set whatever brightness. Didn't have to reset anything.

Thanks everyone...

[k3nnis]

Hi Guys,

I hope this is not a silly question, if it is please forgive me :) But I wanted to know if the footwell lighting just needs to be enabled in VAGCOM? i.e. I don't need to install any LED under there since it should already be there standard?

Cheers,
K.

[rlarsen]

Hi Guys,

I hope this is not a silly question, if it is please forgive me :) But I wanted to know if the footwell lighting just needs to be enabled in VAGCOM? i.e. I don't need to install any LED under there since it should already be there standard?

Cheers,
K.

There should be lights under the seats, and in the footwell - but the best you can do is to have a look for your self [;)] you will be the only one who can tell.

[Smurfs]

Hi Guys,

I hope this is not a silly question, if it is please forgive me :) But I wanted to know if the footwell lighting just needs to be enabled in VAGCOM? i.e. I don't need to install any LED under there since it should already be there standard?

Cheers,
K.

Mine were there, all I had to do was enable via VAG-COM.

[k3nnis]

Thanks Guys, I will check it out. What colour is the attachment under the footwell? Clear white?

[rlarsen]

Thanks Guys, I will check it out. What colour is the attachment under the footwell? Clear white?

Mine is OEM LEDs - so they are white.

[NPuter]

Thanks Guys, I will check it out. What colour is the attachment under the footwell? Clear white?

you may not have them.... I believe ROW has to get some kind of lighting package to get the footwell leds...
We have that standard in the US [:)]

[k3nnis]

Ah ok. What is ROW? :)
Oh well I guess I probably won't have them I have a euro specced A4 1.8TFSI B8 MY10. Can someone take a pic of the bulb underneath so I know what to look for :) I don't have VAGCOM :(

[NWS4Guy]

Ah ok. What is ROW? :)
Oh well I guess I probably won't have them I have a euro specced A4 1.8TFSI B8 MY10. Can someone take a pic of the bulb underneath so I know what to look for :) I don't have VAGCOM :(

ROW = Rest of World

[k3nnis]

Thanks for the info. Oh well I guess I don't have them then :( I am in australia (euro spec). I was keeping my hopes up for the VAGCOM mod but I guess I won't be in luck....

[NPuter]

Thanks for the info. Oh well I guess I don't have them then :( I am in australia (euro spec). I was keeping my hopes up for the VAGCOM mod but I guess I won't be in luck....

You might as well check to make sure anyway... They are just a small, rectangular, clear led bulb housing - they light up in a whiteish-blue color when the doors are open...

[k3nnis]

Ok thanks. So this is at the footwell right? Basically next to the pedals? :)

[Alkivar]

front footwells, under seats for rear footwells.

[BtM909]

I would like to add that I was able to enable the lights just as explained and it rocks!

on an A4 B8 3.2

One thing worth mentioning: whenever you go back to the setting to change the light, it always shows the rotatory at maximum. So I've set my lights at 50% (straight up), press return, the lights are actually at 50% of the settings (all good). Whenever I go back to the setting, only the rotary is set to maximum (as my lights are still at 50%).

[NPuter]

I would like to add that I was able to enable the lights just as explained and it rocks!

on an A4 B8 3.2

One thing worth mentioning: whenever you go back to the setting to change the light, it always shows the rotatory at maximum. So I've set my lights at 50% (straight up), press return, the lights are actually at 50% of the settings (all good). Whenever I go back to the setting, only the rotary is set to maximum (as my lights are still at 50%).

That is interesting... Mine does not do that, if my lights are lower than max, and I return to the menu, the rotary is still set to where I previously set it..

[B_Boy]

That is interesting... Mine does not do that, if my lights are lower than max, and I return to the menu, the rotary is still set to where I previously set it..

x2 same here

[Tone-Dogg]

x2 same here

X3 here

[k3nnis]

Anyone here know if UK/AUS Audi A4 B8's have this feature even though without lighting package?

[NPuter]

Anyone here know if UK/AUS Audi A4 B8's have this feature even though without lighting package?

I don't think so... I'm not sure about ROW options, but I am pretty sure that in order to have footwell lighting you need the lighting package. (All US A4s have footwell lighting)
The whole point of this mod is to keep the footwell lights on all the time - if you don't have footwell lights, you obviously cannot do that.

[scottyuk]

My UK car had the light pack but no ambiant lighting.....until I enabled it.

[k3nnis]

Thanks guys. I guess retrofitting it is hard work??
scottyuk: did you have to pay extra for the lighting pack?

[pmunger]

My Aus car has it standard - 2009 2.0T Quattro

[k3nnis]

Hi,

Yeah I think because yours is quattro. It comes standard. Mine is the 1.8T


My Aus car has it standard - 2009 2.0T Quattro

[rlarsen]

To those who have MMI basic (red/black screen) and still doesn't know how to activate the MMI menu item (it is not included on Davids site)


Ambient lighting (footwell lighting) MMI menu item in MMI basic
[07 - Control Head]
[Coding - 07]
xxxxx?x
add 2 to the existing value of the 2nd to last digit

The rest is as described on David's site.

[tutone]

I went through the steps David detailed for ambient lighting on my 2011 S4. "Ambient lighting" shows up in MMI now but is grayed out and I cannot access it. Any suggestions? Reboot MMI again? Thanks to everyone.

[Tone-Dogg]

I went through the steps David detailed for ambient lighting on my 2011 S4. "Ambient lighting" shows up in MMI now but is grayed out and I cannot access it. Any suggestions? Reboot MMI again? Thanks to everyone.

Sounds like you enabled but never activated...I have a 2010 NON MMI and the coding I used is 0100 1111
See Post 202^^^^
Hope this helps

[NPuter]

I went through the steps David detailed for ambient lighting on my 2011 S4. "Ambient lighting" shows up in MMI now but is grayed out and I cannot access it. Any suggestions? Reboot MMI again? Thanks to everyone.

Did you change the code in 09-Cent. Electric as well?


Step One: Enable Ambiance Lighting.

[09 – Cent. Elect.]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 16 Bit 6 - Set this bit manually to “1” - (1 = active)

[tutone]

I'll take a look tomorrow and check. Thanks!

[tutone]

I'm still striking out here. Under Cent Electric I tried to change Byte 16 Bit 6 to 01001111 but I kept getting an error message that it was an invalid VCDS code or something. My VCDS long coding helper has 4 lines. Line 3 is Byte 16 0000 1111. Line 4 has two checkboxes for bit 0 (front footwell lights installed) and bit 1 (rear footwell lights installed). Both of these are checked. Any ideas?

[rlarsen]

I'm still striking out here. Under Cent Electric I tried to change Byte 16 Bit 6 to 01001111 but I kept getting an error message that it was an invalid VCDS code or something. My VCDS long coding helper has 4 lines. Line 3 is Byte 16 0000 1111. Line 4 has two checkboxes for bit 0 (front footwell lights installed) and bit 1 (rear footwell lights installed). Both of these are checked. Any ideas?
When you changed bit 6 manually, did you then move the focus away from the binary input box (eg. with the tab key) - and then closed the window, and clicked on "Do it" ??

[NPuter]

also, the bit numbers ascend from right to left starting with 0
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/VagComExplanation.png

[tutone]

When you changed bit 6 manually, did you then move the focus away from the binary input box (eg. with the tab key) - and then closed the window, and clicked on "Do it" ??

Not sure. I'll try again.

[scottyuk]

Thanks guys. I guess retrofitting it is hard work??
scottyuk: did you have to pay extra for the lighting pack?

Oops a month later and I've just noticed this. Sorry.

Yep in the UK the lighting pack is £160 apart from on S4's where it's standard.

"Includes rear reading lights, entrance lights, front footwell lights, active door reflectors, vanity mirrors and illumination of the glove compartment, vents and internal door controls"

It's pretty cheap of Audi not to include a glovebox light or vanity mirror lights by default. I think it's a must have option.

[k3nnis]

is this a retrofittable option?

[scottyuk]

Not easily. I've seen a thread where a guy made up his own wiring loom for the interior lights and then we spent a bit of time working out the coding but it doesn't seem like an easy mod.

[languiduck]

I don't have VAG-COM so this is all greek to me. So to enable the hidden menu do I need VAGCOM to enable it first before I can make any changes to the hidden menu?

[rlarsen]

I don't have VAG-COM so this is all greek to me. So to enable the hidden menu do I need VAGCOM to enable it first before I can make any changes to the hidden menu?

Yes to enable the hidden menu you need a VCDS (or someone with a VCDS, to enable the menu for you) - and with the hidden menu you can only do a very small part of the Codings - basically only the Codings for the MMI menus.

[Peeet]

Not easily. I've seen a thread where a guy made up his own wiring loom for the interior lights and then we spent a bit of time working out the coding but it doesn't seem like an easy mod.

Any one can help me, where i can find that thread.
I also want to retrofit, the interior lighting.

Peet

[Peeet]

Any one can help me, where i can find that thread.
I also want to retrofit, the interior lighting.

Peet

I am working on it, you can read it over here :http://www.audiforum.nl/forum/b8-2007/59230-retrofit-ambient-light-volledig-2.html#post1054763
Its a dutch Audi forum, I find the coding by my self

Still looking for more information, so if anyone now where i can find the thread

Peet

[Kostas84]

Didnt work on my 2010 Audi A5 Sportback with MMI 3G.
I did it as it is described here http://www.audienthusiasts.com/VagComINLight.html but the Ambiance Lighting is still grayed out.
Any idea ?

[DavidB8]

Generally if it's greyed out your coding didn't take. Go back through and double check all your VCDS long coding.

[Kostas84]

The coding is ok, i made it on 2 Audi A5 Sportback but no luck.

[rlarsen]

And you are sure that it was bit 6 that you changed - x1xxxxxx

[09 – Cent. Elect.]
[Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 16 Bit 6 - Set this bit manually to “1” - (1 = active)

[Kostas84]

Yes it is working now :)
I tried with a friend today at lunch... the binary code is from right to left :)
Thank you David.

[Peeet]

I did everything step by step, afther every item, I make a auto scan no faults reported

Foot well lights
09 byte 16

Front and Rear
active: bit 0 = front voor en bit 1 = back
http://i52.tinypic.com/214wdnm.jpg

Positive power front, grey connector goes to T32A pin 17
Positive power back, black connector goes to T17L pin 14
http://i55.tinypic.com/24vv3aw.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/nffqxx.jpg

Doors
42 byte 1 doors, 8K0 959 793 J Left drivers side.
active: bit 2 = door lights under white and warning red en bit 3 = diode lights
http://i53.tinypic.com/b7h1fp.jpg

Doors
52 byte 1 doors, 8K0 959 792 J Right passenger side.
active: bit 2 = door lights under white and warning red en bit 3 = diode lights
http://i51.tinypic.com/ng51yg.jpg

Front doors
active bit 2 = door lights under white + warning red, positive power goes to door module T32j pin 16
active bit 3 = diode lights, positive power goes to door module T32j pin 3
Negative earth = T32j pin 5

door driver
http://i55.tinypic.com/20fb13q.jpg

door co-driver
http://i54.tinypic.com/5wd0es.jpg

Backdoors
active bit 2 = door lights under white + warning red, positive power goes to door module T16o pin 12
active bit 3 = diode lights positive power goes to door module T16o pin 1

Backdoor left
http://i52.tinypic.com/35leu5j.jpg

Backdoor right
http://i52.tinypic.com/i1e0c1.jpg


Everything works fine, also activate in the MMI, adjustable foot well lights
No faultcodes

Glovebox light.

http://i55.tinypic.com/24vv3aw.jpg

Also working, positive power goes to T12k pin 4 and that goes to T17g pin 11
No VCDS code needed, and no faultcodes


Now the problem,
Adjustable ventilation the background lights left-middle-right
8T0 919 177 driver zijde
8T0 919 178 co-driver
8T0 919 177A middle
Elsawin says positive power goes to grey connector T32a pin 31.

http://i56.tinypic.com/nffqxx.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/fn9v1z.jpg

But there is already a wire(grey-blue) in that pin,
I put the ventilation light wire together with the (grey-blue) wire in T32a pin 31

Ventilation light works fine, but I have 2 fault codes after VCDS scan
Did I have to tell the Car somewhere, that there are extra consumers at pin T32a pin 31 ???
Or must I disconnect the battery for a moment ??

Fault report

Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DP HW: 8K0 907 064 DP
Component: BCM2 1.1 H02 0324
Revision: 00002001
Coding: 030100
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000

Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 D HW: 8T0 959 754 D
Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG H37 0060

Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D HW: 8K0 905 852 D
Component: J764 ELV MLB H37 0042

1 Fault Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 82
Mileage: 17559 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.02.13
Time: 14:40:23

Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DP HW: 8K0 907 064 DP
Component: BCM2 1.1 H02 0324
Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0120625948
Coding: 011E0620003900400130010000000000
Shop #: WSC 00264 211 80908

Part No: 8K0 951 177
Component: DWA-Sensor H02 0040

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H03 1301

1 Fault Found:
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 82
Mileage: 17559 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.02.13
Time: 14:39:18



Peet, I need some help

[rlarsen]

Have you tried to erase the faults ??

The error is "Check DTC Memory" - maybe new faults will come up, but hopefully there won't.