View Full Version : Whats with the L at the end of every Audi model in China?
akaisuzu
11-04-2009, 11:30 AM
Last month I went on a vacation in a couple Asia countries, and China was one of them.
I saw a couple A8"L" on the highway, and thought hmm... Are the people in China really that rich? A8L everywhere?
Then after a while, i saw an A6L, then a few B8 A4L. Hmm.. whats up with the trailing L on their models?
mtmspeed
11-04-2009, 11:38 AM
here it stands for long wheelbase.
aznpxdd
11-04-2009, 11:41 AM
Yep, longer wheelbase, which gives more legroom in the back. The reason is because most people who can afford premium cars in China usually have a chauffeur to drive them around, therefore the bigger backseats.
Comp4k
11-04-2009, 11:48 AM
The A4L is exclusive to the Chinese market, they want to have the upper hand in the premium car segment.
The long wheel base version of the A4 adds about 2" of legroom in the back. That way Audi has an entry-level luxury car that people can be chauffeured in.
Edit: dangit! aznpxdd beat me to it.
akaisuzu
11-04-2009, 11:52 AM
AHHH i see.. got it :)
Tho none of the A4s i see was being drove by a chauffeur lol
Ryan_T
11-04-2009, 12:01 PM
No matter what though, the front seats will always be more comfortable than the back. It's so silly to buy a nice driver's car and give it to the driver to enjoy. I draw the line on things I can't pilot myself...like planes.
HobbesA5
11-04-2009, 12:06 PM
Considering that Buicks are considered the pinnacle of status in China, I wouldn't put too much stock in their car preferences.
John4378
11-04-2009, 12:14 PM
But why the letter "L" when they can't even pronounce it ROR (Raugh out Roud)
akaisuzu
11-04-2009, 12:30 PM
But why the letter "L" when they can't even pronounce it ROR (Raugh out Roud)
OK... no racist jokes plz -.-
melloyelloguy
11-04-2009, 12:38 PM
But why the letter "L" when they can't even pronounce it ROR (Raugh out Roud)
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sakimano
11-04-2009, 12:51 PM
Audi is China's second biggest market, after Germany. Audi actually predicts that Chinese sales will outpace Germany sales by 2012-2013
USA? pfft...barely hanging on to 3rd. UK might catch the US soon! No wonder we barely get any of the good stuff over here...
ItsDubC
11-04-2009, 01:01 PM
Foreal, why do Americans as a whole hate avants [:|]
macuser
11-04-2009, 01:02 PM
becuase it's not a gas guzzling road hogging monster truck (insert tim the tool man taylor laugh here)
hender
11-04-2009, 01:24 PM
Foreal, why do Americans as a whole hate avants [:|]
i've seen some great looking avants on here, so please don't castrate me, avant owners. But a common mentality here is that station wagons are one step below minivans.
That, and , yes, they aren't 8 feet tall. ruh ruh ruh ruh ruh.
John4378
11-04-2009, 01:43 PM
I wasn't being racist, it's just a fact.
They also can't make any other sounds that require the tongue to pass between their lower and upper teeth, like "TH"...their language doesn't require those sounds.
inNout
11-04-2009, 01:45 PM
I wasn't being racist, it's just a fact.
They also can't make any other sounds that require the tongue to pass between their lower and upper teeth, like "TH"...their language doesn't require those sounds.
Oh jeez... please
http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/GTFO/2/GTFO~1.jpg
rjpeaks
11-04-2009, 01:46 PM
I wasn't being racist, it's just a fact.
They also can't make any other sounds that require the tongue to pass between their lower and upper teeth, like "TH"...their language doesn't require those sounds.
man - you one smaht guy.
hender
11-04-2009, 01:54 PM
man - you one smaht guy.
http://bearseatbeets.net/random/ror.jpg
am i too late?!
akaisuzu
11-04-2009, 01:59 PM
OK.... my question was answered... mods lock plz before this gets out of hand? :(
Infra
11-04-2009, 02:06 PM
Audi is China's second biggest market, after Germany. Audi actually predicts that Chinese sales will outpace Germany sales by 2012-2013
USA? pfft...barely hanging on to 3rd. UK might catch the US soon! No wonder we barely get any of the good stuff over here...
It's not really apples to apples when comparing America's brand segmentation between volume (such as VW, Toyota, Chevy, etc) and luxury manufacturers (Audi, BMW) to Europe, where you can buy a car in nearly any trim level.
VW is trying to move their image upmarket like Audi has done... but I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon. It's like the great divide... see VW Phaeton.
mtmspeed
11-04-2009, 02:13 PM
But why the letter "L" when they can't even pronounce it ROR (Raugh out Roud)
Don't be so Sensitive!!! It's a car forum, we're not trading recipes!
I don't care who you are...that was funny[:D]
rjpeaks
11-04-2009, 02:23 PM
come on, we can all laugh....
smile - even at dumb humah...
CapeQuattro
11-04-2009, 02:34 PM
But why the letter "L" when they can't even pronounce it ROR (Raugh out Roud)
I'm sorry for being the only one who enjoyed that...
ZomgZombies
11-04-2009, 04:31 PM
I'm all in for insensitve jokes as much as the next interwebz broski, but i just find it funny/interesting that its only kosher to make jests against certain races/ethnicities.
Me thinks a Jew or Black joke in this thread would've ended it 2 seconds after the post.
I personally think that everyone should laugh at themselves (ie. my huge jew nose) but i've always just found the line of who you can and cant make jests at weird.
rjpeaks
11-04-2009, 05:16 PM
I'm all in for insensitve jokes as much as the next interwebz broski, but i just find it funny/interesting that its only kosher to make jests against certain races/ethnicities.
Me thinks a Jew or Black joke in this thread would've ended it 2 seconds after the post.
I personally think that everyone should laugh at themselves (ie. my huge jew nose) but i've always just found the line of who you can and cant make jests at weird.
classic - i agree with you. but the funniest thing to me is that the R thing is a Japanese thing, not Chinese.
here's your fly lice sir..
;)
now that funny...
Clown4
11-05-2009, 12:17 AM
classic - i agree with you. but the funniest thing to me is that the R thing is a Japanese thing, not Chinese.
here's your fly lice sir..
;)
now that funny...
you know what's funny?
people who can't speak/read/write/whatever the heck with other languages making fun of asian people, who happen to know more than just the english language.
take your time and see how long you can master the pronunciation of any asian language
question of this thread had been answered, so
/thread
Okan509
11-05-2009, 05:15 AM
I love Avants... I think the S4 Avant is so sexyyyyy!
But I would never have one, while I would buy an A3... It's too big! looking, the A4 Avant... Nonetheless still sexy
rjpeaks
11-05-2009, 06:58 AM
you know what's funny?
people who can't speak/read/write/whatever the heck with other languages making fun of asian people, who happen to know more than just the english language.
take your time and see how long you can master the pronunciation of any asian language
question of this thread had been answered, so
/thread
actually i am asian.
/thread
hender
11-05-2009, 07:00 AM
question of this thread had been answered, so
/thread
clown4 has spoken. Everyone go home.
riegeraudi
11-05-2009, 07:17 AM
classic - i agree with you. but the funniest thing to me is that the R thing is a Japanese thing, not Chinese.
here's your fly lice sir..
;)
now that funny...
Actually it is also a chinese thing also, but it depends if you are Cantonese or Mandarin. Cantonese R=L but mandarin actually have the r sound so they pronounce R correctly.
I am also asian so not making fun of the chinese here.
I also know this because my father is cantonese and he speaks this way.[:D]
The other day he said "go to the rake", so I thought he wanted me to rake the leaves but he actually meant he wanted to to to the lake. LOL. So he later said "when you finish doing the reaves lets go to the rake." I stood there for a second and realized what he was saying. HAHAHA
a4l 2" more rear seat room...whats the point...why not opt for the a6?
ZomgZombies
11-05-2009, 08:59 AM
a4l 2" more rear seat room...whats the point...why not opt for the a6?
edited: actually here is more info on the L model
http://jalopnik.com/5090860/extra+long-wheelbase-audi-a4l-revealed-in-china
Audi presents long-wheelbase A4 for the Chinese market
* First long-wheelbase version in China’s premium B segment
* Marketing and Sales Board Member Schwarzenbauer: “We will export the success of the new Audi A4 to China”
* Market launch in January 2009
Audi is the first premium brand to introduce a prestigious long-wheelbase version in the upper mid-size category exclusively for the Chinese market: the Audi A4L’s wheelbase is 60 millimeters (2.36 inches) longer, which benefits rear-seat passengers in particular. The A4L thus offers unrivalled spaciousness in its segment.
Manufactured at the plant in Changchun, China, the new Audi A4L made its debut yesterday in Beijing. Peter Schwarzenbauer, Member of the Board of Management for Marketing and Sales at AUDI AG, and the President of the FAW-VW joint venture, An Tiecheng, emphasized the importance of the new Audi A4L for the Chinese market.
Schwarzenbauer said: “The long-wheelbase version of the Audi A4 is being produced exclusively in China for the Chinese market. With this premium product, we chose to go even further than elsewhere in the world to meet the requirements of our Chinese customers.”
Since its worldwide market launch last year, over 200,000 units of the Audi A4 have been sold. It was recently voted “Most Beautiful Car of the Year” by readers of Auto Bild, a German automotive magazine, and thus overall winner of the „Auto Bild Design Award 2008“.
“Our goal is to export the success of the new Audi A4 to China. With the customized Chinese A4L, which we subjected to rigorous testing in China, we are impressively demonstrating our market leadership in China’s premium segment,” added Schwarzenbauer.
With the A4L, Audi has created an automobile which outdoes the competition in terms of driving comfort, luxury, spaciousness, and design. The chassis was tailored to Chinese road conditions to provide exceptional suspension comfort. The wheelbase – 60 millimeters (2.36 inches) longer than the A4 sedan’s wheelbase – makes the A4L a unique vehicle. The longer wheelbase lends the A4L an especially roomy feel and makes getting into the rear seats even easier. In addition, the longer wheelbase is of particular benefit to rear-seat passengers, who can enjoy legroom unparalleled in this vehicle segment. Thanks to the increase in length and high-quality technology, the A4L injects full-size class into the mid-size category.
For the time being, two engine versions will be available for the Audi A4L in the Chinese market: the 2.0 TFSI with 132 kW (180 hp) and the six-cylinder 3.2 FSI with 195 kW (265 hp).
Audi has been offering a long-wheelbase version of the A6 in China since 2000. Now in its second generation, it provides better driving comfort, spaciousness, and design than the competition. Drivers and passengers of the 4.76 meter (15.62 feet) long A4L will enjoy similar advantages as it can be enjoyed as both a driver’s car and a chauffeured luxury sedan.
The Audi A4L, which will be rolled out starting at the Guangzhou Motor Show on November 18, will be at Chinese dealerships as of January 2009.
AUDI AG sold a total of 964,151 cars in 2007 and thus achieved its twelfth consecutive record year. With revenue of €33,617 million and profit before tax of €2,915 million, the company attained its best figures ever. Audi produces vehicles in Ingolstadt and Neckarsulm (Germany), Györ (Hungary), Changchun (China) and Brussels (Belgium). At the end of 2007, production of the Audi A6 started in Aurangabad, India. The company is active in more than 100 markets worldwide. AUDI AG’s wholly owned subsidiaries include Automobili Lamborghini Holding S.p.A. in Sant’Agata Bolognese (Italy) and quattro GmbH in Neckarsulm. Audi currently employs around 57,000 people worldwide, including 45,000 in Germany. The brand with the four rings invests more than €2 billion each year in order to sustain the company’s technological lead embodied in its “Vorsprung durch Technik” slogan. Audi plans to significantly increase the number of models in its portfolio by 2015 to 40.