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idrivemyself
09-06-2004, 10:34 PM
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With a new design and a more extensive equipment specification, the top sports model in the A4 range, the S4 with supremely powerful 344 bhp V8 engine, is about to be launched. Its permanent quattro four-wheel drive and consistently sport-tuned aluminium suspension ensure that this power can be converted into maximum forward propulsion and driving pleasure. The new S4, like its predecessor, is available in both saloon and Avant versions.

The S models of the new A4 generation are likewise instantly recognisable: the front end is dominated by the new face of the brand, the single-frame grille – in this case with S-specific grid pattern – and newly styled headlights. The shoulder line sculpts the sides of the car body in a most eye-catching way. And, finally, the most prominent feature on the new tail end, apart from the newly styled light units, are four oval tailpipes on both saloon and Avant models – a clear indication of just what the Audi S4 is capable of.

The V8 engine, with chain drive at the rear and a displacement of 4.2 litres, delivers 253 kW (344 bhp) and 410 Nm of torque. It consequently sets clear benchmarks in its segment: a benchmark for a supreme and even development of power resulting from the large swept volume, and a benchmark for unmistakeable dynamic handling.

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The power-to-weight ratio of this model is just 4.8 kilograms/horsepower. The eight-cylinder engine’s thrust thus enables the new Audi S4 with its new 6-speed manual gearbox to complete the sprint from 0 to 100 km/h in just 5.6 seconds. It takes just 20.6 seconds to reach 200 km/h, whilst its top speed is a governed 250 km/h.

The new S4 is the only car in its class to have quattro permanent four-wheel drive. It can therefore convert its engine output into propulsive power most efficiently at all times and enter a new dimension of superiority thanks to the handling potential of its aluminium chassis.

Steering with an extremely direct ratio means that the S4 can be guided absolutely precisely around all kinds of corners. In other words, driving pleasure in the purest sense, on the motorway as well as on challenging mountain passes.

The Audi S4 also offers other qualities that have already become a well-known feature of the S models with the four-ring badge. It is consequently positioned as the top sports model in the A4 line, and not only in terms of power and performance – its equipment specification and materials of the highest quality underpin this status.

The S4 is also notable for its unique combination of unmistakeable style and sporting exclusivity, of individuality and versatility. Available as both a saloon and an Avant, it offers its owner distinctive everyday quality, too.

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The design

The superiority of the new Audi S4 is immediately reflected in its deliberately restrained appearance. The bodies of the S4 saloon and Avant, which are sporty in terms of both their proportions and their basic shape, only differ subtly from the other members of this model family.

A typical situation that many drivers of the new Audi S4 will find themselves in when manoeuvring to overtake: glancing in their rear-view mirror, the driver in front will see the more powerful bumper fully painted in the body colour with large air inlets, xenon plus headlights and aluminium-look door mirrors and immediately be aware that a very special Audi is approaching.

This realisation is confirmed with a glance at the tail end as the S4 passes: here the onlooker will notice the four distinctive oval tailpipes and – on the saloon version – a discreet rear spoiler as the characteristic feature of the Audi S4. The equally subtle roof spoiler is typical for the Avant.

S4 models can be identified from the side by sills in the same colour as the body, contrasting lower door skirts and the characteristic 18-inch “S” wheels of Avus design.

345 millimetre discs at the front are a visual indication of the brake system’s performance.

The new S4, like the other S models, can be ordered in a choice of exclusively available paint finishes: Imola Yellow, Brilliant Red, Sprint Blue, pearl effect and Deep Green, pearl effect. The S4 can also be ordered in Brilliant Black, in the metallic colours Silver or Dolphin Grey and in Phantom Black or Moro Blue, both with pearl effect.

The Audi S4 is notable not only for its sporting exterior, but even more so for its inner values. This applies not only to its technology, but also to the interior.

The instrument cluster, for example, has the characteristic grey S dials and special needles. The new three-spoke leather sports steering wheel with S badge also accentuates the vehicle’s particularly sporty character. If the customer orders a 6-speed tiptronic transmission, gears can also be changed using the shift paddles on the steering wheel.

Recaro sports seats provide firm lateral support and excellent comfort on long journeys. Not only the driver and front passenger benefit from these qualities, but also passengers on the two rear seats.

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Engines and transmissions

The heart of the new Audi S4 is again quite clearly its engine – a tremendously powerful V8 with a displacement of 4.2 litres and a five-valve cylinder head. This engine is notable not only for its dominant power output (253 kW/344 bhp), but also for its unbeatably short design.

The development engineers, however, have not economised when it comes to power. The V8’s thrust enables the new Audi S4 with 6-speed manual gearbox to sprint from 0 to 100 km/h in only 5.6 seconds. It takes just 20.6 seconds to reach 200 km/h, whilst the top speed is a governed 250 km/h.

The new 4.2-litre engine delivers its maximum power at 7,000 rpm. The maximum torque of 410 Nm is available at 3,500 rpm. Even at just 1,100 rpm the large V8 produces almost 300 Nm, and between 3,000 and just under 4,500 rpm the peak-torque range is always above 400 Nm.

Clearly more impressive than such figures is the combination in practice of the engine’s spontaneous response to every movement of the accelerator pedal, its astonishing free revving and hefty torque that is characteristic of a V8. And then there is the experience of an equally characteristic V8 sound – reserved and practically free of vibration in the low speed band and with a sonorous tremolo under load. It certainly makes no secret of the engine’s potential.

Thanks to efficient emissions control with primary and main catalytic converters, the new Audi S4 also remains clearly within the EU4 limits.

The S4 is available with a choice of 6-speed manual gearbox or 6-speed tiptronic with dynamic shift program DSP and sport program. This automatic transmission is designed specifically to meet demanding handling requirements: weight reduction, rapid shifts and an optimised shifting strategy make sure that the convenience of the automatic transmission is combined with the sports performance specific to the S4.

The chassis

The dynamic chassis comprising lightweight aluminium components is based on the much-praised axle design of the A4 series and provides the ideal basis for maximum agility as well as excellent suitability for everyday use. It is not least thanks to these characteristics that the S4 has already put up an impressive performance in numerous comparison tests conducted by the trade press, clearly distancing itself from its competitors.

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Four-link front suspension and trapezoidal-link rear suspension enable maximum steering precision and clearly defined handling with excellent cornering stability. Ride comfort also benefits from this ingenious axle design because a low unsprung mass makes for a particularly sensitive response from the suspension.

The new S4 generation also comes as standard with one of the most elaborate and efficient rear suspension systems around: self-tracking trapezoidal-link rear suspension, specially designed for quattro drive.

The new S4 has a particularly direct steering ratio: as far as the driver is concerned, this is a contribution to the sports-oriented handling of the agile eight-cylinder version that can be experienced in all situations. The S4 can be guided extremely precisely around all kinds of corners. A standard feature on both the saloon and the Avant is the speed-dependent servotronic, which enables precise steering at high speeds as well as effortless manoeuvring and parking.

The Audi S4 is being launched with standard-fit 8x18-inch alloy wheels produced exclusively for this vehicle. These are fitted with tyres of size 235/40 R18, uniting good road grip with direct steering properties and defined directional stability.

The braking system is also matched to the powerful potential of the Audi S4. The ventilated discs measure 340 millimetres in diameter at the front, 300 mm at the rear. The system is operated via a dual-rate servo. This assists the driver during extremely hard braking by automatically increasing the servo rate.

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The equipment

The top sports model in the A4 series: this claim is also satisfied by the standard equipment specification that the S4 and S4 Avant offer.

This of course includes safety features such as full-size front airbags with two-stage activation, side airbags integrated into the seat backs and the head airbag system known as sideguard which covers the entire side window area and the A-posts. The front seats now have active head restraints, and a seat belt reminder function is also new.

Active safety benefits from the electronic stabilisation program ESP and the high-performance brake system with dual-rate servo and brake assist. Standard features also include quattro permanent four-wheel drive which converts engine power with unfailing efficiency into forward movement and also ensures extremely safe handling in all road and weather conditions.

The S4 sports suspension lowers the vehicle’s ride height by 20 millimetres and – apart from its sporty appearance – means a clear advantage in terms of dynamic handling.

The exterior of the S4 models differs from the other models in the A4 series through Avus-design cast aluminium wheels of size 8x18-inch. Other identifying features include electrically adjustable and heated aluminium-design exterior mirrors, a newly styled rear spoiler on the saloon (roof spoiler on the Avant), an original radiator grille with grid pattern and exclusive front and rear bumpers.

A further highlight in the standard equipment package are the particularly bright xenon plus headlights. These can be combined as an option with the dynamic cornering light technology known as adaptive light.

The S4 Avant is fitted as standard with roof rails – either in anodised or black aluminium. The high-gloss package, another standard feature, contains aluminium-look roof drip mouldings and window capping strips.

Inlays in Carbon Atlas or, as a no-cost option, Piano finish black, Aluminium silver or Fine-grained Birch wood grey offer all drivers the chance to customise their car’s interior. S4 badges on the nose and tail, on the door sill trims, in the instrument cluster, on the dashboard and on the newly designed 3-spoke sports steering wheel clearly indicate this Audi’s special status, even when stationary.

In addition to the standard specification, numerous optional extras provide scope for numerous different versions so that each S4 can be designed individually and in keeping with the customer’s personal taste. Here are just a few examples:

Audio systems, with 6 CD changer in the glove box and BOSE sound system as an option, provide a musical contrast to the sporty sound of the engine and, depending on features, traffic information using RDS technology.

The new Audi radio-navigation system plus with DVD drive not only enables almost limitless navigation throughout Western Europe, it can also be used to play audio and MP3 CDs. Its operating principle follows the same clear logic as the Audi MMI, familiar from the A8 and A6. The 6.5-inch colour display shows the map and the visual route description, while the driver information system translates the corresponding directions into pictograms and adds information on distances and arrival time.

The solar sunroof, which supplies power to the car’s ventilation system when the ignition is turned off, ensures a particularly high standard of comfort in high outside temperatures.

The rest of the S4 gallery can be found here: http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/gallery2.php?mode=album&album=/Audi/A4-S4-RS4%20(B5,%20B6%20and%20B7)/S4%20Sedan%20(B7)

*Fourtitude

astris
09-06-2004, 11:57 PM
I want.

angryswede
09-07-2004, 12:04 AM
I now officially hate audi.

double bleh.

long live the b5

foofighter
09-07-2004, 12:09 AM
i'm disappointed the A4's dont get LED tailights hmm...cant wait for our A6 [cool]

dukez
09-07-2004, 01:46 AM
All these new grille photos are disturbing me.

angryswede
09-07-2004, 03:02 AM
are you guys getting one?
I think those are sweet. these a4's look bootay though. the b5's are amazing. the b6's are even better (even though I don't know how they made more driver room, but I feel more cramped in them) and then the b7's

a6 is the way to go!! maybe they'll import the 4.2 avant here [:)]


Originally posted by foofighter
i'm disappointed the A4's dont get LED tailights hmm...cant wait for our A6 [cool]

bigshrimpin
09-07-2004, 03:26 AM
these things look like pieces of shitt

Cup-a-Chow
09-07-2004, 03:33 AM
So did Audi hire Bangle to design the B7?

EVIL-AUDI
09-07-2004, 05:11 AM
I'm now 100% sure I won't buy another Audi.

FLATLINE
09-07-2004, 07:41 AM
I really dont like the look, that grill looks OK, on a 300C, not an audi

Gzo17
09-07-2004, 07:57 AM
Hopefully it grows on me. Doesnt even look like an Audi!! That is ugly!! Guess I will have to jump on the M3 bandwagon.

cj-S4
09-07-2004, 08:07 AM
The B6 is still growing on me now if they would just do something to the dam motors. That front end on the above pic is like the new A6,,, and I hate it. I understand the Bently haritiage stuff and all,, but that front end has to go.

Ohwell I guess I'll just keep my B5 S4,, and dream of a 911TT.

Pureaudi
09-07-2004, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by EVIL-AUDI
I'm now 100% sure I won't buy another Audi.

im gunna buy another b5, im just gunna stear clear of the new ones.

neoprufrok
09-07-2004, 08:44 AM
I for one think this looks real nice. Its hard for us to tell what cars look like until we're up close and personal, but they tried to introduce the Nuvolari styling language into the new car.

I was scared as to how this car would look. I'm not scared now.

Oh, and the B5 - while a classic design is starting to look outdated these days.

Cassmoney
09-07-2004, 09:05 AM
I think that this is the best looking S4 made to date. The front end is very strong and aggressive looking and really makes the car look fast.
Here is the picture that sold it for me....
If only I had the cash........ahhhh, to dream...

http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/generated//Audi/A4-S4-RS4%20(B5,%20B6%20and%20B7)/S4%20Sedan%20(B7)/Exterior%20-%20EU/004__scaled_600.jpg

doccommando
09-07-2004, 09:17 AM
Man that thing's ugly. Is it just me, or is it quoted as being slower 0-100km than the B6?

/\G
09-07-2004, 09:17 AM
i'll say it again...

with a US front plate on that thing it will look ASS!

illusive45
09-07-2004, 09:17 AM
I'm diggin it besides the grill and steering wheel. I guess that's something that'll have to grow on me(hopefully).
I still luv my B5 S4 though. Nothing is better thana classik design.

aussie_s4
09-07-2004, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Cassmoney
I think that this is the best looking S4 made to date. The front end is very strong and aggressive looking and really makes the car look fast.
Here is the picture that sold it for me....
If only I had the cash........ahhhh, to dream...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/andrewallen/Audi/S4-B7.jpgYes, this one looks more aggressive, not so much a Hyundai look-alike. Maybe I need to see the new S4 in Imola, Nogaro or bright-whatever-Red, because I have to admit the silver doesn't do much for me (even though I'm a silver B5 owner).

Cassmoney
09-07-2004, 09:36 AM
Thanks for posting that, for some reason I couldn't get it to work.
I agree with you on the color. They need to release a picture of it in a more exciting color.

A4_Andre
09-07-2004, 10:27 AM
this is definitely my last audi. the new models are looking weak.

DRA4
09-07-2004, 10:29 AM
I will have to see it in person to take a better look, Can't wait for the RS4 though.

quattroanillos5
09-07-2004, 10:37 AM
i would buy a b6..... but definately not the b7..... i'm just going to stick with older cars...... maybe an e30 m3..... of a b5 s4......

jones3000
09-07-2004, 04:01 PM
I'm not feeling any new car out now or set to come out. My next car is another A4, S4, and eventually an M3. The B5 platform is so timeless. I can't be mad at Audi for trying to be different. Look at the new Bimmers.....

RippleChip
09-07-2004, 04:31 PM
I'm liking it, especially with the few ps jobs I've seen.

Looks forward to seeing some on the road.

AudiSnawb
09-07-2004, 05:22 PM
Still sticking with those Avus wheels huh??? They should at least change that.............

Pureaudi
09-07-2004, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by neoprufrok
I for one think this looks real nice. Its hard for us to tell what cars look like until we're up close and personal, but they tried to introduce the Nuvolari styling language into the new car.

I was scared as to how this car would look. I'm not scared now.

Oh, and the B5 - while a classic design is starting to look outdated these days.

the ****in wheel gap is HUGE! i wish it was like an m3 with like 0 wheel gap. the m3s look sooooooo mean. haha sorry. a nicly modded b5 looks awsome. the b5 platform, will never die. i like it so much. its so clean. the b6's look too heavy to me. it dosent seem like a sports car to me. but oh well. b5 baby!

eshaun
09-07-2004, 05:43 PM
First bmw, now audi, dont particularily like the new 997 p-cars either...doesnt leave much...I guess the saying that real beauty is on the inside (under the hood) is beginning to take hold in the automotive world now too

RippleChip
09-07-2004, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Pureaudi
the ****in wheel gap is HUGE! i wish it was like an m3 with like 0 wheel gap. the m3s look sooooooo mean. haha sorry. a nicly modded b5 looks awsome. the b5 platform, will never die. i like it so much. its so clean. the b6's look too heavy to me. it dosent seem like a sports car to me. but oh well. b5 baby!

I bet that's not a true S4, rather an A4 with a modified photo to be an S4. No pop up headlight washers on the bumper, probably added that on. I'd be surprised if it came like that, current S4s don't have near that large of wheel gap.

Pureaudi
09-07-2004, 09:31 PM
allright good, i was sweatin there! haha

shehatezme
09-07-2004, 10:30 PM
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/16AU_574b_s67-med.jpg

Here is a little Pshopping then. Lowered and matching color license plate area. Looks much better. Now on to some new wheels.

Silvant
09-07-2004, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by /\G
i'll say it again...

with a US front plate on that thing it will look ASS!

first off... who the hell runs a front plate? even in cali?
as far as the b7's.. i just said some pretty negative
things in the b7 a4 thread..
but i really gotta say. its just not working for me.
im still a huge b5 fan.. i did get used to the b6's..
but this is gonna be really tough..
will someone PLEASE pshop this thing instead of
a a3 sportback?
i tell you, its the lights, both front and rear..
i could almost say the front is looking semi-"sharp"
like abt stuff.. which i think is the ugliest shit around.

Silvant
09-07-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by shehatezme
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/16AU_574b_s67-med.jpg

Here is a little Pshopping then. Lowered and matching color license plate area. Looks much better. Now on to some new wheels.


wait.. maybe i need to shut my mouth... haha..

Silvant
09-07-2004, 11:36 PM
no... i really shouldnt.. i just looked at the rear of the s4 sedan on fourtitude.
this thing is a ruined legacy...
the designer and whoever signed off on his work
should be buried with hitler.

shehatezme
09-07-2004, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Silvant
no... i really shouldnt.. i just looked at the rear of the s4 sedan on fourtitude.
this thing is a ruined legacy...
the designer and whoever signed off on his work
should be buried with hitler.

I have to agree with you about the rear. I pshopped the S4... just lowered and got rid of that front plate and color matched it. It looks good. I like how it looks from up front BUT nothing can fix that rear. The rear is ****ed for life. No matter how you look at it, the lights really ruins the whole rear end. I think they need to take this damn car back in and redesign the whole rear.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/16max_bak-med.jpg

Anthony
09-08-2004, 02:31 AM
Ever since seeing the new A3, A6, and A8, the first mod I'd wanted to do was colormatch the center strip of the grille. I really don't hate the new look at all, just think it would look a bit better without so much matte black in the front.

kwan
09-08-2004, 02:41 AM
The rear needs alot of help bad.

RippleChip
09-08-2004, 05:54 AM
Nice work Ben, that front pic looks good. Rear one, well it takes some getting used to. I really don't mind it, but I'm waiting to see one in person.

EVIL-AUDI
09-08-2004, 06:09 AM
Still hate it.

illusive45
09-08-2004, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by EVIL-AUDI
Still hate it.

But hate is such a strong word. [:p] Seriously though, its one of those designs that you either love it or hate it. My BImmer homeboys are saying the same thing about BMW's new generation of design. They think the E46 is the last of the great BMW designs and believe the styling is going to shiet.(I must agree)
But since I have an allegiance to Audis, I'll hold off on my final verdict until I actually see it in person. Hell, it might grow on me. I wasn't very impressed by the B6 design when it first came out(I called it a fugly, mini A6), but it eventually grew on me and I think they look tight when you drop it with 19s.
Face it fellas, this is evolution of design...the future. We gotta be more accepting of the wild or daring risks carmakers take to stay in stride with the future. If worse comes to worse, you can still go buy a vintage B5 and be retro! HAHA [;)]

FLATLINE
09-08-2004, 10:21 AM
Rims, Tint, Brakes, Drop: was bored at lunch
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/79s4_copy.jpg

Silvant
09-08-2004, 10:58 AM
wild or daring risks?????????
im sure i will get used to the front.. somehow..
but the rear is CRAP. looks like an older legacy..
it looks straight wimpy. and whats the deal with
trying to go with "quad tips" seriously just a chincy. soft looking tail.
the s4 and even the a4 should look mean and tough.. not like subaru or a tercel.
the thing that really bums me out is that these seem to be final versions now, direct from audi.

hadokenny
09-08-2004, 11:31 AM
I like it. I think it looks agressive

Cassmoney
09-08-2004, 11:58 AM
It looks really good with that liscense plate area color matched to the car. Hopefully Audi will pick up on some of this.

duffS4
09-08-2004, 06:05 PM
I thought that the S model didn't come out until the last 2 years of the model run. Is that a myth? Anyway, I think if I'm going Audi in the future it'll be used.

Anthony
09-08-2004, 07:09 PM
That's the way it used to be, no myth. Maybe since this really isn't a platform change they're releasing the S4 close to the same time. It may be a "B7" but I believe it's still an "8E". Confused yet? [:)]

Imperial
09-09-2004, 06:31 PM
I'm seriously disappointed by this car. As nice as I think the new A6 looks, this car just looks horrible. The rear's been ruined, imo. And what's with those headlights?

Anyone else feel like it looks sort of like a Civic from the rear?

[:(]

jimmyrecluse
09-27-2004, 03:18 PM
i like it. it has 4 more hp and is .3 seconds slower 0-60 than my b6 s4 why?

Richard 350z
09-28-2004, 05:40 PM
It's not an improvement over the B6. I like the bigmouth grille on the new A6, but am lukewarm to it on the S4. I agree those very heavy Avus wheels gotta go.

I'd like to see Audi do an S4 "lightweight" like BMW used to have an E36 M3 lightweight, Mitsu has the EVO RS, and over the years Porshce has done 911s like the RS America. Strip out all the unnecessary weight and make this a better track car.

Satan4
10-04-2004, 02:31 PM
I want that damd NAV unit, its hot!

q0192837465
10-04-2004, 06:35 PM
Actually, they'r giving up on the Avus wheels, they'r in for a 5 double spoke wheels.....standard 18'

Just my opinion, but the B7 is hot..........yet, the E90 coupe is MUCH hotter..........I think BMW is getting back on the right track..but Audis r steering away.......

Neways, quad exhaust for the S4 finally.........haven been waiting 4 so long

pkancel
10-04-2004, 07:02 PM
I am with the majority. The new front design just doesnt look right. In fact is loses some of the aggressiveness even in the S4 model. With the grill and those headlights, the front end looks narrower! I really like the interior but then move to the back and its a mess too.

I think I would go for a Hemi 300c before the new S4. If I want a big grill, then the car should fit the size.

Flatline, you should send that photo to Audi and let them see what would really sell. Its only a few tweaks here and there to make it 100% better!

Imperial
10-04-2004, 07:34 PM
The back...I'm still trying to get used to the back. The rear lights are obviously supposed to be A8-esque, but it just doesn't work.

Silvant straight called it when he said it looked wimpy from behind.


...BUT I have, of course, decided to reserve final judgement until I see this car in person. That may make or break the situation. I just hope I like it cuz by then, no more B6, so if I was thinking of one, I'd have to go pre-owned, which I don't mind, but would rather go with brand-new. Damn I hope I like it [:(]

vananron
10-05-2004, 12:13 PM
Why would they not go with something that looks like the new A3 front end? I actually like that front end a lot.

S4arch
10-11-2004, 01:57 PM
I have to say from a design standpoint I see what audi is trying for here, its the same as BMW, trying to make the car look more aggressive - which in turn makes it look faster. both auto makers I think are not failing at making the cars look more aggressive but at the same time they are becomming uglier. Audi has dissapointed me by backtracking on their design philosophy which was something like "every line/shape has to have a reason..." which I think they nearly perfected in the B6 and the TT. take a close look at the new B7, some of the lines follow breaks in the front at the grill and headlights but there's nothing supporting the tilt to the headlights or the gross exaggeration of the grill. the same applies to the rear, which seems to have the tail-lights placed almost at random and in a very irregular shape, broken by the trunk which is very different from the B6.

I may offend a lot of people by saying the B5 is looking dated these days, but compared to other cars of the same year they still look new. audi nailed the design of the B5 and I think we all remember how different they looked compared to everything else (especially japanese autos) The B6 IMO was a great improvement on the B5's design approach, just a cleaner more hard-edged look which makes it very distinctive. the B7 breaks from this approach and tries something that I think we can all agree is 'bolder' but not necessarily 'beautiful'.

Silvant
10-11-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by vananron
Why would they not go with something that looks like the new A3 front end? I actually like that front end a lot.


EXACTLY! if the b7 had an A3 inspired front and some larger taillights it would be a winner..
im slowley getting used to it but i cant imagine
a time that i would think it was dope like i do with the b5 and b6.

KaiDaRudeboy
10-12-2004, 10:56 PM
I still think nothing beats the interior of an Audi... I also think that the B7 will grow on us... I already like it... but i still love my B6..[:D]

Tinman
10-18-2004, 01:41 PM
I agree that the front looks a lot more aggressive, but it's overtaken by the fact that the rear looks like sh!t! hmm. . . maybe bangle had some influences on audi too!

L8

Spidee
10-18-2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Tinman
I agree that the front looks a lot more aggressive, but it's overtaken by the fact that the rear looks like sh!t! hmm. . . maybe bangle had some influences on audi too!

L8

Ditto.[;)]

JorgenBrotnov
10-21-2004, 09:57 PM
I have a B5. When I first saw the B6s I didn't like them at ALL! Then they started to grow on me. I like them now, maybe not as much as the B5, but alot still.

I have HATED most of the new audi designs lately as well.
However when I saw the latest A6 in person it WAS better than the pictures...still not sure if I could live with it.


We will see if the B7s grow on the ones of us that hate it......

romeotech
10-29-2004, 06:42 PM
I remember seeing a pic where the trunk part of the taillights were blacked out so the rear looked ALOT better.
I guess that's all you have to do.
Get that piece and your set.

Imperial
10-29-2004, 07:43 PM
Yeah, those were pics of what is believed to be the new RS4 undergoing testing -

http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4014/55.jpg

S4arch
11-01-2004, 08:57 AM
that looks good....